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Disney Infinity: Good Idea, Bad Idea

Flynn Rider and Prince Naveen

by Becky Hollada and Kimberly Keller - December 12, 2013, 4:03 pm EST

Time for the princes to take the spotlight.

Flynn Rider (Good Idea) – by Becky Hollada

So we’ve heard about the Disney Princesses, but what about their princes? Princes are some the most unloved characters in the Disney, but many of the more recent princes have developed just as far as their female counterparts, coming a long way from The Prince and Prince Charming. They get names now, like Flynn Rider! So it’s high time Disney showed them a little more love and brought at least one of them into the game forum.

Tangled being one of the highest-grossing films Disney’s had in years, it’s natural that it already made a debut in Disney Infinity with a Rapunzel figurine and a couple of power discs. But considering how popular the film was, another character might be in order.

Flynn is a thief turned good guy with good agility, resourcefulness and cunning. Since Tangled doesn’t have a full Playset of its own, Flynn would be limited to Toy Box use like Rapunzel, but honestly, this is where he would excel. He can hold his own pretty well against any enemy as long as he’s got a frying pan handy, and he’s never limited by the impossible when trekking the landscape. Several times in the movie, he proves to be capable of anything and doesn’t give up without trying everything he can think of. Rogues always make some of the best adventurers.

He’s also got a fun personality that could make for fun gameplay. Little clever one-liners here and there, and wit that made Flynn’s character so great. I don’t know how they could incorporate "The Smolder," but they should.


That's a face for video games.

And finally, from a strictly business standpoint, adding a Flynn Rider figurine would draw in a wider spectrum of the Tangled audience that Rapunzel just can’t garner alone. Disney itself sought to draw in boys from the get-go, changing the movie’s name to “Tangled” in order to prevent it from seeming like another Disney Princess movie. It is about time Disney followed that up in Disney Infinity by giving male Tangled fans something else.

Stronger heroines in Disney also make for Princes with more active roles like Flynn. What better place for them to stretch their adventurous legs than in an adventure title like this one? One could even argue that more of the Princes are suited for Disney Infinity than their Princesses, as long as you stick to the ones with a real personality.


Prince Naveen (Bad Idea) – by Kimberly Keller

Prince Naveen is the fun-lovin’ playboy prince of Maldonia from The Princess and the Frog. This is a guy who screwed up so bad, his parents, the king and queen, cut him off. The king and queen! We’re left to assume that he definitely isn’t inheriting the throne anymore as he sets his sights on marrying into wealth, instead of going back to his country. This is a guy who is so lazy, he can’t be bothered to make himself food when starvation is at hand, so why would you want to force him to run around the Toy Box?

Eventually Disney is going to release a prince for Disney Infinity; it’s inevitable. And I can see how Prince Naveen can be a tempting choice, he fights a little, learns a valuable/personality changing lesson, he gets more screen time than most princes do, and he’s from a fairly recent movie (2009). They can probably even throw in a couple of snarky one-liners too.


New brand of charming.

However, this is a prince who only shows any real value once he’s a frog. Sure, he learns some cool froggy-fighting moves and survival techniques, but who cares? He’s a frog! A little ol’ green frog who insists on walking on two legs and playing a twig ukulele. As an actual prince he…does quite a bit of dancing. He just dances in from the moment we see him to the hard-working end when he’s helping Tiana run her restaurant. It’s the mid-1920’s, so there really isn’t much for a prince to do in terms of adventuring unless he wants to find King Kong. It’s safe to assume that our little frog-boy has been trained in princely customs like the art of sword fighting and horseback riding, but he certainly has never seen combat before. Sure, that’s not really a requirement with characters like Lightning McQueen popping up, but even Mickey Mouse has seen his fair share of battles, so it’s a little embarrassing for Naveen.

It’d definitely be nice to have a transforming character, creating an interesting duality that can give a player access to more choices depending on the challenge. More opportunities could be made for puzzle-driven areas where you’d have to think about which form could be the most beneficial, but let’s leave that to other princes like Adam (the Beast) or Kuzco.

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Talkback

CericOctober 03, 2013

294,000 units.  Double Standard on Success.

Alright on the article.

CericOctober 03, 2013

I think Winnie the Pooh be an ok edition.


Now Roger Rabbit on the other hand would be one of those great on paper but not in reality combinations.  While I think the characters themselves be a great fit.  I don't see how the stages for them would work.  A large portion of the charm of Who Framed Roger Rabbit is having that contrast between the Cartoon and Real world and between Now and Then.  They would need photo realistic characters and settings to play the straight man to do it right.  They have to be different then the actual Infinity Universe style to get the contrast right.

BJWanlundOctober 03, 2013

YES to Roger Rabbit!  What about The Three Caballeros?  That technically would include a member of the Fab Five (or Six depending on your perspective), but hey, it'd certainly be interesting.

CericOctober 03, 2013

Lets really dig.  The Three Little Pigs.  They had their own series. 

MetalMario2October 03, 2013

None of these will be coming. The game ought to be called "Pixar Infinity: Featuring Johnny Depp".

CericOctober 04, 2013

To be honest Pixar properties are probably the easiest to port since they already have 3D models to start with.

Spak-SpangOctober 07, 2013

Actually Roger Rabbit would work if you only had Toon Town.  Toon Town was great and super Creepy...but you would have to get that sugary cell shaded world just perfect, and it would be a careful balance between annoying and brilliant. 



MetalMario2October 09, 2013

I actually binge-watched the Tinkerbell movies on Netflix on a day that I felt particularly bored and shiftless, and I've got to admit, they weren't that bad. Strictly kid's stuff, but not that bad. Disney is doing a good job of developing the character's genesis gradually over the course of this series of films. In the third film, they explained why Tinkerbell can't speak to humans using her normal voice, and the next film in development is supposed to feature a young Captain Hook (before Peter Pan cuts off his hand, of course).

WahOctober 09, 2013

Lucario ::)

MetalMario2October 25, 2013

Yeah, "The Black Cauldron" sucked.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorOctober 25, 2013

Song of the South.

MetalMario2October 25, 2013

They could actually do that if they left out Uncle Remus and the Tar Baby. I mean, it worked for Splash Mountain.

TeaHeeOctober 25, 2013

I didn't hate "The Black Cauldron" but I was also completely enamored with the book series it was based on back in junior high. Following much of the logic put forward against it, I would have to guess that "The Sword and the Stone" would also fall in the bad idea list.

KeyBillyOctober 27, 2013

I didn't realize that Black Couldron was so hated.  I saw it a few years ago and liked it a lot.  It has a unique tone and style that captured my imagination.  I don't plan on getting Infinity, but maybe it would work to make statues/buildings/mountains/weapons/etc. for the lesser known franchises, similar to trophies in SSB.

Jasae BushaeOctober 28, 2013

Having read the books the black cauldron is based upon, I can certainly say that the movie was worlds better by comparison and that a darker vibe would not have saved the film in the least.

And, I agree that it might not make the best of playsets for Infinity. As structured as that movie was, unless the playset was having you go through the plot of the film to detail, the creators would have to create some pretty new material (perhaps borrowing from other books in the original series?) which might be more work than they want to put in.
That said, if they did do it, it would not necesarily be a bad playset. The lone ranger playset received much much higher reviews than the film did and gets near universal praise for its approach despite the films mixed reaction. So if they were to tackle the black cauldron, they could probably make it work.


Though thinking on it, the black cauldron would actually make a pretty awesome kingdom hearts world. Given that settings penchant for telling the stories of movies over with the inclusion of kingdom hearts setting...They could simply give the horned king a cauldron that summons heartless and run the characters through a pretty solid world.


As for kim possible, I have to ask, what basis makes that series a good choice? They are already planning a phineas and ferb playset. They have the Incredibles already lined up. What could a kim possible playset offer that does not come off as a boring repeat of the already established playsets?
Lone Ranger tackled wild west
Incredibles did superheroes
Pirates did pirates
Monsters University did college life

The playsets at least for the first year or two should be trying to branch out and cover multiple genres instead of making a bunch of very similar playsets elsewise your just creating a game with tedium that is rereleasing the same content over and over.
Which would be bad for Kim Possible since as you said, it HAD its final season and its only getting older and further from public memory

TrekStyxNovember 04, 2013

I think the Kim Possible and her world of characters would be an awesome addition to Infinity.


It's true that The Incredibles already covers the superhero territory and Monsters U covers college/school life, but Kim Possible is NEITHER of these genres. She's a spy!


She's got gadgets, stealth, and acrobatics and fights evil all without the benefit of Mr. Incredible-esque strength. She's the Disney cartoon equivalent of Batman or James Bond, and the spy genre and martial arts action is something that is seriously fun and currently lacking in the current roster of Infinity swashbucklers and supers.


Plus a KP playset has great potential. If there's any doubt in your mind that her unique world of characters doesn't translate into a good gaming experience, check out the "Kim Possible: What's the Switch?" game from 2006. It is surprisingly addictive and even more surprising, incredibly challenging.


As for The Black Cauldron. It is indeed dated and doesn't work. While it may be true that something like The Lone Ranger got a playset that was more well received than its more polarizing film counterpart, that was also a modern, recent Disney property and one with Johnny "Captain Jack" Depp attached no less. Suffice it to say, The Lone Ranger deserved a second skin in gaming and Disney was rightly motivated to give it that chance.


Black Cauldron is old, irrelevant and didn't work for Disney even in its heyday. While the right group of developers might be able to fish through the source material and conjure up a fresh take on the story in game form, that would say more their own creativity than it would for The Black Cauldron as a deserving Infinity candidate.


Definitely proper good/bad ideas this week!

Tron, Flynn and Sark.


I have to disagree on Loki though—I prefer my Marvel, LucasFilm and Disney separate. If the line gets blurred, we may end up with Spider-Mickey and Darth Goofy, and I don't know if I want to live in that kind of world.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorDecember 06, 2013

You don't say....

http://www.geekrest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Darth-Goofy.jpg

I'm not sure if I'll ever get this game, but if they came out with Wall-E, my wife would buy the figurines regardless.

azekeDecember 07, 2013

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Kill me. Now.

I know right?..

They're smearing all stinky SW business over our precious Goofy!..

Zombie Goofy in one of the latest Mickey Mouse shorts was so creepy

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