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Disney Infinity: Good Idea, Bad Idea

Meet the Robinsons and Captain EO

by Becky Hollada and Kimberly Keller - October 17, 2013, 12:13 pm EDT

Digging deeper into the Disney universe.

Meet the Robinsons (Good Idea) – By Becky Hollada

Meet the Robinsons is hardly the most bankable name in the Disney vault. The film received mixed critical reviews upon its release and there isn’t even a trace of its characters or story in Disney’s stores and parks. It has gone the way of a number of Disney films and fallen by the wayside in lieu of more popular household names. But for Disney Infinity’s purposes, Meet the Robinsons is a trove of great material that could stand up well against the more popular films that already appear in the game.

Power Discs are where it’s at this time. All kinds of wacky inventions and futuristic gadgets can be pulled from this movie and fit perfectly into Disney Infinity’s Toy Box. Players could race around on a bowler hat controlled T-Rex instead of a boring old horse, or in Wilbur Robinson’s time machine. Obviously time travel probably wouldn’t be a feature, but it still looks cool, flies, and turns invisible.

Single handedly best weapon ever? Bowler hat mind control device. In the movie, Bowler Hat guy is able to recruit several minions with the help of his robotic bowler hat, Doris and her Mini-Doris. As part of this Power Disc, Mini-Doris could be an item used to take control of an enemy to aid the player against its former companions. Obviously, since there’s only one Mini-Doris it would be limited to single enemies, but still incredibly useful and unique.


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Evil, yet stylish.

The caffeine patch would be a great ability disc, like Bolt’s super strength, giving a boost to a character’s stats like speed or strength to equal a rush of energy. It could dwarf other stat boosts, given that it would be temporary, and give characters some potentially hilarious side effects.

And Power Disc possibilities don’t even end there! Things like a meatball gun and mobster frogs making appearances in this movie as well. This is a world ripe with opportunities for the Toy Box.

The characters from Meet the Robinsons would fit seamlessly into the integrated world. Given that some of them time travel and the rest are just bizarre, not a one of them would be out of place next to the Incredibles or Wreck-It Ralph. Not to mention there are tons of them. Wilbur, Franny, Lewis, Bud, and Lucille could make the cut for good guys, and Bowler Hat guy and Doris for the baddies. Bowler Hat guy is essentially the Wiley Coyote of the Disney universe, but with an extremely evil hat. They would make an interesting combination if thrown in for a two part boss fight.

The home world for this play set would be no less interesting than what would go on in the Toy Box. The Robinson family home in the future is a world in and of itself with rooms beyond rooms, a famous inventor’s lab, and a family with no shortage of quirks and craziness. Players could find themselves doing quests pertaining to each family member, or inventing something in Cornelius’s lab. Maybe they could even learn to conduct Franny’s frogs. In short, there’s almost too much that could be done here. It might be difficult to pick just a few.

Meet the Robinsons has one of the most whimsical worlds ever created in a Disney film, and one with some of the most possibilities. Exploring possibilities is even one of the film’s core themes! Though this movie didn’t get as much love at the box office it perhaps deserved, Disney would be silly to completely overlook it when planning out new play sets for Disney Infinity.


Captain EO (Bad Idea) – by Kimberly Keller

Captain EO, the insane 1986 4D Disney Park film from the minds of Francis Ford Coppola and George Lucas, returned to the parks in 2010 as a tribute to Michael Jackson and for some reason hasn’t left since. Although it contains less effects than the original run, the tribute does feature bouncing audience seats that sync with 1980’s pop beats in a way that’s enough to make anyone motion sick. Basically, if I have to sit through one more showing, I am going to scream.

Disney, however, loves this thing. When it first came out it was the most expensive film made for the length, almost averaging $2 million per minute. Although there is never a line to see the film at Disneyland, enough people buy the merchandise, sarcastically or not, for me to see it constantly around town. This, of course, instills the fear that people just might buy a figure for it in Disney Infinity, even if it is just for laughs.

And it doesn’t have to be a Michael Jackson figurine either. I’m not really sure about the licensing rights here, but it could be any number of the other characters. Examples include the borderline retarded Hooter or the creepy machine-like Supreme Leader, played by Anjelica Huston (yup, watch it again, that is absolutely her, hissing and leering behind the makeup).


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This will be in Jack Sparrow's nightmares.

Their troubled world is full of countless gray junk piles that transform into an ancient Greek paradise. I guess the play set would be the entire 17-minute movie played over again, or maybe Captain EO bringing the magic of music to other trashed out worlds. Honestly though, I don’t know and I don’t want to find out. Seriously, why on Earth would the nameless Galactic Federation send a traveling band around the galaxy to sing at people? And I mean sing at them in a threatening way with a horde of super on point 80’s dancers. I don’t care if it gets the job done, it’s an embarrassing tactic.

Back in the Toy Box, I don’t see them fairing much better. The weird little puppets characters are not as happy and playful looking as their Muppet counterparts, so I don’t see many kids favoring them. Their only power in the film was to literally transform into an instrument, if they were a robot, or to play said instruments. True, Captain EO can shoot multicolored music lasers from his fingers to transform enemies into more dancers, but just throw that onto a Power Disc if you really want the ability to give your villains the power of expression through movement.

Images courtesy of Kimberly Keller.

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Talkback

CericOctober 03, 2013

294,000 units.  Double Standard on Success.

Alright on the article.

CericOctober 03, 2013

I think Winnie the Pooh be an ok edition.


Now Roger Rabbit on the other hand would be one of those great on paper but not in reality combinations.  While I think the characters themselves be a great fit.  I don't see how the stages for them would work.  A large portion of the charm of Who Framed Roger Rabbit is having that contrast between the Cartoon and Real world and between Now and Then.  They would need photo realistic characters and settings to play the straight man to do it right.  They have to be different then the actual Infinity Universe style to get the contrast right.

BJWanlundOctober 03, 2013

YES to Roger Rabbit!  What about The Three Caballeros?  That technically would include a member of the Fab Five (or Six depending on your perspective), but hey, it'd certainly be interesting.

CericOctober 03, 2013

Lets really dig.  The Three Little Pigs.  They had their own series. 

MetalMario2October 03, 2013

None of these will be coming. The game ought to be called "Pixar Infinity: Featuring Johnny Depp".

CericOctober 04, 2013

To be honest Pixar properties are probably the easiest to port since they already have 3D models to start with.

Spak-SpangOctober 07, 2013

Actually Roger Rabbit would work if you only had Toon Town.  Toon Town was great and super Creepy...but you would have to get that sugary cell shaded world just perfect, and it would be a careful balance between annoying and brilliant. 



MetalMario2October 09, 2013

I actually binge-watched the Tinkerbell movies on Netflix on a day that I felt particularly bored and shiftless, and I've got to admit, they weren't that bad. Strictly kid's stuff, but not that bad. Disney is doing a good job of developing the character's genesis gradually over the course of this series of films. In the third film, they explained why Tinkerbell can't speak to humans using her normal voice, and the next film in development is supposed to feature a young Captain Hook (before Peter Pan cuts off his hand, of course).

WahOctober 09, 2013

Lucario ::)

MetalMario2October 25, 2013

Yeah, "The Black Cauldron" sucked.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorOctober 25, 2013

Song of the South.

MetalMario2October 25, 2013

They could actually do that if they left out Uncle Remus and the Tar Baby. I mean, it worked for Splash Mountain.

TeaHeeOctober 25, 2013

I didn't hate "The Black Cauldron" but I was also completely enamored with the book series it was based on back in junior high. Following much of the logic put forward against it, I would have to guess that "The Sword and the Stone" would also fall in the bad idea list.

KeyBillyOctober 27, 2013

I didn't realize that Black Couldron was so hated.  I saw it a few years ago and liked it a lot.  It has a unique tone and style that captured my imagination.  I don't plan on getting Infinity, but maybe it would work to make statues/buildings/mountains/weapons/etc. for the lesser known franchises, similar to trophies in SSB.

Jasae BushaeOctober 28, 2013

Having read the books the black cauldron is based upon, I can certainly say that the movie was worlds better by comparison and that a darker vibe would not have saved the film in the least.

And, I agree that it might not make the best of playsets for Infinity. As structured as that movie was, unless the playset was having you go through the plot of the film to detail, the creators would have to create some pretty new material (perhaps borrowing from other books in the original series?) which might be more work than they want to put in.
That said, if they did do it, it would not necesarily be a bad playset. The lone ranger playset received much much higher reviews than the film did and gets near universal praise for its approach despite the films mixed reaction. So if they were to tackle the black cauldron, they could probably make it work.


Though thinking on it, the black cauldron would actually make a pretty awesome kingdom hearts world. Given that settings penchant for telling the stories of movies over with the inclusion of kingdom hearts setting...They could simply give the horned king a cauldron that summons heartless and run the characters through a pretty solid world.


As for kim possible, I have to ask, what basis makes that series a good choice? They are already planning a phineas and ferb playset. They have the Incredibles already lined up. What could a kim possible playset offer that does not come off as a boring repeat of the already established playsets?
Lone Ranger tackled wild west
Incredibles did superheroes
Pirates did pirates
Monsters University did college life

The playsets at least for the first year or two should be trying to branch out and cover multiple genres instead of making a bunch of very similar playsets elsewise your just creating a game with tedium that is rereleasing the same content over and over.
Which would be bad for Kim Possible since as you said, it HAD its final season and its only getting older and further from public memory

TrekStyxNovember 04, 2013

I think the Kim Possible and her world of characters would be an awesome addition to Infinity.


It's true that The Incredibles already covers the superhero territory and Monsters U covers college/school life, but Kim Possible is NEITHER of these genres. She's a spy!


She's got gadgets, stealth, and acrobatics and fights evil all without the benefit of Mr. Incredible-esque strength. She's the Disney cartoon equivalent of Batman or James Bond, and the spy genre and martial arts action is something that is seriously fun and currently lacking in the current roster of Infinity swashbucklers and supers.


Plus a KP playset has great potential. If there's any doubt in your mind that her unique world of characters doesn't translate into a good gaming experience, check out the "Kim Possible: What's the Switch?" game from 2006. It is surprisingly addictive and even more surprising, incredibly challenging.


As for The Black Cauldron. It is indeed dated and doesn't work. While it may be true that something like The Lone Ranger got a playset that was more well received than its more polarizing film counterpart, that was also a modern, recent Disney property and one with Johnny "Captain Jack" Depp attached no less. Suffice it to say, The Lone Ranger deserved a second skin in gaming and Disney was rightly motivated to give it that chance.


Black Cauldron is old, irrelevant and didn't work for Disney even in its heyday. While the right group of developers might be able to fish through the source material and conjure up a fresh take on the story in game form, that would say more their own creativity than it would for The Black Cauldron as a deserving Infinity candidate.


Definitely proper good/bad ideas this week!

Tron, Flynn and Sark.


I have to disagree on Loki though—I prefer my Marvel, LucasFilm and Disney separate. If the line gets blurred, we may end up with Spider-Mickey and Darth Goofy, and I don't know if I want to live in that kind of world.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorDecember 06, 2013

You don't say....

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I'm not sure if I'll ever get this game, but if they came out with Wall-E, my wife would buy the figurines regardless.

azekeDecember 07, 2013

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Kill me. Now.

I know right?..

They're smearing all stinky SW business over our precious Goofy!..

Zombie Goofy in one of the latest Mickey Mouse shorts was so creepy

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