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Disney Infinity: Good Idea, Bad Idea

Loki and Thanos

by Becky Hollada and Kimberly Keller - December 5, 2013, 4:02 pm EST

Oh right, Disney owns Marvel now.

Loki (Good Idea) – by Kimberly Keller

I could write all day about the long list of Marvel characters Disney should include. Heck, just looking at ability Power Discs alone would be a couple pages (Spider-Man’s web slinging, the Thing/Ben Grimm’s rock hard defense, and Magneto’s… magneto-ness), but let’s just cut right to the chase. I want a Loki figure. Done. I know I have just spoken for everyone, so let’s just mail our petition to Disney and be finished here.

Honestly, with the mega success of The Avengers and every movie tied in to it, Disney clearly has some Marvel plans on the way and they aren’t looking to the comics for inspiration. After dropping hints in interviews it’s obvious the House of Mouse can’t hide the inevitable for long. With Thor: The Dark World out and Captain America: The Winter Soldier’s trailer already heating up movie theaters, Marvel is in full swing for the Avengers 2 lead up, and what better way to market it than offer up everyone’s favorite characters to rock out with while they wait? I would love to see some X-Men and Spider-Man action too, but Avengers should definitely lead the way.

And, of course, with the Avengers comes Loki, the “god” of mischief and cunning. After stealing the show in Thor, Loki was rewarded with some more chaos in The Avengers and soon topped it all in Thor’s sequel. This character is so wonderfully constructed, you just can’t hate him. Look at who he grew up with after all! It must have been maddening for someone as smart as him to spend all his time with the mentally-challenged Thor, and to make matters worse, everyone loved the hammer guy more! Sure, I love Thor as much as the next person, but Loki’s definitely got more oomph. Thor’s silly antics and lovable muscle-brained helplessness created the perfect foil to showcase the genius of Loki. It’s sad how this doesn’t happen often, but it’s nice to see a truly intelligent character who can push the boundaries of a superhuman world.


He just wants to be loved!

While it may be impossible to show Loki’s wit and foresight in a game such as this, he does bring a couple of cool tricks to the table. Besides the joy and running around as your favorite character, Loki is a master at the magic of illusion. Just imagine how cool it would be to project yourself and sneak up on an enemy foolishly shooting at the wrong target, or how about seemingly shape-shifting to match another character? This could be a loophole to bringing in other characters from the Toy Box into a Marvel-themed Play Set. No point really, just chaotic mischief, Loki-style.

Loki does repeatedly help his brother and understands when to put his own desires aside (life threatening situations are always good), so a Play Set featuring him and the other Avengers wouldn’t be too unbelievable if given the right story. We could have some snarky dialogue, tricky challenges, and even some shawarma cameos as everyone fights for truth, justice, and self-preservation. Now let’s see some hip Disney Infinity sculpting and get the trickster out here already!


Thanos (Bad Idea) – by Becky Hollada

Who? Right. He’s not in a movie, so not everyone knows who he is. Yet, on August 1 2014, Marvel Studios’ Guardians of the Galaxy will be in theatres, and the red guy at the end of The Avengers will finally get a name. And since Marvel Studios has already filed eleven trademark applications for various merchandise, it’s almost a given that late next year we’ll be seeing a lot of him. A new Marvel movie franchise will be the perfect thing for Disney Interactive to spice up Disney Infinity in its second year.

Thanos, another villain-esque character along the same lines as Loki, doesn’t always seem outright evil, but does a lot of evil things. He was born on Saturn’s Titan in a mutant Eternal, which for all the non-comic book fans really just boils down to “is a hard to kill SOB.” He also gets a ton of superpowers, like telekinesis, the ability to absorb and project cosmic energy, and even time travel. These powers are amplified beyond normal Titanian abilities from his dual heritage, and an affinity with the entity Death. Sounds awesome, right?


Cue evil grin.

Except there is not a single thing this guy couldn’t just dominate in a large part of the game. Put simply, Thanos is just too strong. Enemies? Snapped in half or probably just vaporized when he blinks. Weapons? Why even bother? Frying pans are awesome, but seriously? He could do more with his pinky toe. Ability discs? Please. Does he really need to be more powerful? He is meant to be a major player in the larger scheme of the universe and would dwarf the capabilities of most other characters in Disney Infinity.

About the only thing Thanos would really be amusing for in the Toy Box at all would be racing. While Thanos is a genius in all known fields of science and technology, and absurdly powerful, he can’t fly or probably even run very fast, considering his size. So this is probably the only area he would be on equal footing with other Disney Infinity characters and vehicles are the only logical use of a Power Disc for him. Big bad ass Titan riding poor little Dumbo. I’ll admit, that’s a pretty funny mental image.

But that’s pretty much his single redeeming quality in terms of gameplay. Unless they seriously handicapped Thanos, or strayed far from his comic-book self, he is just too strong to be a normal character or even a boss. Unlike someone such as Davy Jones or Loki, who have the charisma to make interesting playable characters, Thanos is most defined by his obsession with Death which is not only not child-friendly, but hard to translate into a world like this one.

Marvel better show up in Disney Infinity, that much is obvious.  I am, however, hopeful some new characters will be able to make an appearance after Guardians of the Galaxy comes out in theatres next August. Just not this guy.

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Talkback

CericOctober 03, 2013

294,000 units.  Double Standard on Success.

Alright on the article.

CericOctober 03, 2013

I think Winnie the Pooh be an ok edition.


Now Roger Rabbit on the other hand would be one of those great on paper but not in reality combinations.  While I think the characters themselves be a great fit.  I don't see how the stages for them would work.  A large portion of the charm of Who Framed Roger Rabbit is having that contrast between the Cartoon and Real world and between Now and Then.  They would need photo realistic characters and settings to play the straight man to do it right.  They have to be different then the actual Infinity Universe style to get the contrast right.

BJWanlundOctober 03, 2013

YES to Roger Rabbit!  What about The Three Caballeros?  That technically would include a member of the Fab Five (or Six depending on your perspective), but hey, it'd certainly be interesting.

CericOctober 03, 2013

Lets really dig.  The Three Little Pigs.  They had their own series. 

MetalMario2October 03, 2013

None of these will be coming. The game ought to be called "Pixar Infinity: Featuring Johnny Depp".

CericOctober 04, 2013

To be honest Pixar properties are probably the easiest to port since they already have 3D models to start with.

Spak-SpangOctober 07, 2013

Actually Roger Rabbit would work if you only had Toon Town.  Toon Town was great and super Creepy...but you would have to get that sugary cell shaded world just perfect, and it would be a careful balance between annoying and brilliant. 



MetalMario2October 09, 2013

I actually binge-watched the Tinkerbell movies on Netflix on a day that I felt particularly bored and shiftless, and I've got to admit, they weren't that bad. Strictly kid's stuff, but not that bad. Disney is doing a good job of developing the character's genesis gradually over the course of this series of films. In the third film, they explained why Tinkerbell can't speak to humans using her normal voice, and the next film in development is supposed to feature a young Captain Hook (before Peter Pan cuts off his hand, of course).

WahOctober 09, 2013

Lucario ::)

MetalMario2October 25, 2013

Yeah, "The Black Cauldron" sucked.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorOctober 25, 2013

Song of the South.

MetalMario2October 25, 2013

They could actually do that if they left out Uncle Remus and the Tar Baby. I mean, it worked for Splash Mountain.

TeaHeeOctober 25, 2013

I didn't hate "The Black Cauldron" but I was also completely enamored with the book series it was based on back in junior high. Following much of the logic put forward against it, I would have to guess that "The Sword and the Stone" would also fall in the bad idea list.

KeyBillyOctober 27, 2013

I didn't realize that Black Couldron was so hated.  I saw it a few years ago and liked it a lot.  It has a unique tone and style that captured my imagination.  I don't plan on getting Infinity, but maybe it would work to make statues/buildings/mountains/weapons/etc. for the lesser known franchises, similar to trophies in SSB.

Jasae BushaeOctober 28, 2013

Having read the books the black cauldron is based upon, I can certainly say that the movie was worlds better by comparison and that a darker vibe would not have saved the film in the least.

And, I agree that it might not make the best of playsets for Infinity. As structured as that movie was, unless the playset was having you go through the plot of the film to detail, the creators would have to create some pretty new material (perhaps borrowing from other books in the original series?) which might be more work than they want to put in.
That said, if they did do it, it would not necesarily be a bad playset. The lone ranger playset received much much higher reviews than the film did and gets near universal praise for its approach despite the films mixed reaction. So if they were to tackle the black cauldron, they could probably make it work.


Though thinking on it, the black cauldron would actually make a pretty awesome kingdom hearts world. Given that settings penchant for telling the stories of movies over with the inclusion of kingdom hearts setting...They could simply give the horned king a cauldron that summons heartless and run the characters through a pretty solid world.


As for kim possible, I have to ask, what basis makes that series a good choice? They are already planning a phineas and ferb playset. They have the Incredibles already lined up. What could a kim possible playset offer that does not come off as a boring repeat of the already established playsets?
Lone Ranger tackled wild west
Incredibles did superheroes
Pirates did pirates
Monsters University did college life

The playsets at least for the first year or two should be trying to branch out and cover multiple genres instead of making a bunch of very similar playsets elsewise your just creating a game with tedium that is rereleasing the same content over and over.
Which would be bad for Kim Possible since as you said, it HAD its final season and its only getting older and further from public memory

TrekStyxNovember 04, 2013

I think the Kim Possible and her world of characters would be an awesome addition to Infinity.


It's true that The Incredibles already covers the superhero territory and Monsters U covers college/school life, but Kim Possible is NEITHER of these genres. She's a spy!


She's got gadgets, stealth, and acrobatics and fights evil all without the benefit of Mr. Incredible-esque strength. She's the Disney cartoon equivalent of Batman or James Bond, and the spy genre and martial arts action is something that is seriously fun and currently lacking in the current roster of Infinity swashbucklers and supers.


Plus a KP playset has great potential. If there's any doubt in your mind that her unique world of characters doesn't translate into a good gaming experience, check out the "Kim Possible: What's the Switch?" game from 2006. It is surprisingly addictive and even more surprising, incredibly challenging.


As for The Black Cauldron. It is indeed dated and doesn't work. While it may be true that something like The Lone Ranger got a playset that was more well received than its more polarizing film counterpart, that was also a modern, recent Disney property and one with Johnny "Captain Jack" Depp attached no less. Suffice it to say, The Lone Ranger deserved a second skin in gaming and Disney was rightly motivated to give it that chance.


Black Cauldron is old, irrelevant and didn't work for Disney even in its heyday. While the right group of developers might be able to fish through the source material and conjure up a fresh take on the story in game form, that would say more their own creativity than it would for The Black Cauldron as a deserving Infinity candidate.


Definitely proper good/bad ideas this week!

Tron, Flynn and Sark.


I have to disagree on Loki though—I prefer my Marvel, LucasFilm and Disney separate. If the line gets blurred, we may end up with Spider-Mickey and Darth Goofy, and I don't know if I want to live in that kind of world.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorDecember 06, 2013

You don't say....

http://www.geekrest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Darth-Goofy.jpg

I'm not sure if I'll ever get this game, but if they came out with Wall-E, my wife would buy the figurines regardless.

azekeDecember 07, 2013

Quote from: ballisticmedicine

Kill me. Now.

I know right?..

They're smearing all stinky SW business over our precious Goofy!..

Zombie Goofy in one of the latest Mickey Mouse shorts was so creepy

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