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Disney Infinity: Good Idea, Bad Idea

Brave and The Little Mermaid

by Becky Hollada and Kimberly Keller - November 22, 2013, 8:06 pm EST

Disney princess edition!

Merida (Good Idea) – by Kimberly Keller

Merida, from Pixar’s Brave, is a spirited Disney princess who is one of the best archers in her country. She constantly looks for adventure in the beginning of the film, racing through the woods on Angus, and climbing Crone’s Tooth, a sheer vertical outcropping of a mountain. To be fair, Brave has seen a fair amount of Disney Infinity action. Merida’s beloved horse, Angus, is a Power Disc and the Scottish Stone Circle is featured in the Toy Box as an unlockable toy, but where is Merida?

Maybe the Disney Princess franchise redesign fiasco has caused Disney designers to be a little wary of changing the princess again. After making her thinner, rounding her eyes, taming her hair, and putting her in the dress she hated from the movie for the Princess brand’s website, fans, and even the story’s creator/director Brenda Chapman, petitioned the decision. Disney eventually removed the redesign from their site, opting to show the Pixar CGI version of Merida instead of trying for a second redesign. It’s a little odd to see, since all the princesses (including another CGI princess, Rapunzel), follow a distinct art style. Instead, Disney should have designed her again, keeping in the elements that make Merida unique, while creating an image that fits with the aesthetic of the website instead of passive aggressively labeling her the odd duck of the franchise.


Sexy...? From quirky and adorable?

Disney Infinity is another franchise with a very specific aesthetic for its characters, which could make Disney nervous when it comes to Merida. When you think about it, it’s absolutely amazing Merida hasn’t been created for the game yet since she would fit in so well.  The only reason I can think of for her current exclusion would be the redesign issue. Rapunzel is arriving in stores this week, with Frozen’s Elsa and Anna following early next week. These spirited princesses all would play strongly in the game, so why not Merida?

Merida’s Play Set would be awesome to explore. One of the strongest points of the Pixar film was its rich environment, causing Pixar to rewrite its animation system for the first time in over two decades. I would personally love to explore the possibilities and magic of the Scottish highlands as Merida in Disney Infinity. True, Brave did have a dedicated video game already, as most films do in some form, but the graphics were flat and rough with a lot of missed opportunities. Merida’s Play Set could be an incredibly fun second chance opportunity for the film’s gaming potential.

As far as Merida’s place in the Toy Box, does this even need explaining? She climbs rock cliffs, shoots arrows with the precision of a machine, and fights a demonic bear. Needless to say, I think she can handle Wall-E's Fire Extinguisher or Carl Fredricksen's Cane.


The Little Mermaid (Bad Idea) – By Becky Hollada

Not one of Disney’s biggest cash cows! Afraid so. The Little Mermaid has been making Disney millions since its release in 1989. Between the movie itself and the mountains of merchandise related to one of Disney’s biggest, most favored, princesses. Although having Ariel and a few of her friends join the Disney Infinity cast would definitely reel in a larger female demographic, there are much better choices.

The biggest problem for a Little Mermaid themed Play Set revolves around the characters. In an action/adventure game, Ariel at least has this adventure part down. She is a rebellious teenager and obviously has no problem leaving home to explore whatever is out there, but she has a serious lack of fighting spirit. In the movie, Ariel only fights when her loved ones are in immediate danger, specifically Triton and Eric, and she’s not even good at it. Kingdom Hearts managed to pull off a battling Ariel, but it relied heavily on the presence of magic and a select few physical skills. Ariel doesn’t use weapons and that takes a lot away from her character in the Toy Box.


Kill them with song and sparkles.

Ariel’s friends in the movie also run into much the same problem we ran into with Finding Nemo. They’re all fish, with the exception of one bird. They’re tiny and, by themselves, unable to do much at all except sing. There are only two main human good guys and one human bad guy (counting human Ursula) making for a scant character roster.

These problems are actually shared across the early Disney Princess films, i.e. Snow White, Cinderella, Sleeping Beauty, and even to some extent Beauty and the Beast. Most of these princesses have the same core as Ariel: they are dreamers, not fighters or adventurers, and suffer from having horribly inept companions. Their princes are the only characters that might be suited to destroying monsters in the Toy Box, and even that is questionable. Only Phillip and the Beast actually fight for their princesses. Eric does eventually come through in the end, but needs a giant, beat up ship to do so, something not readily available in Disney Infinity.

Disney will likely seek to capitalize on the popularity of the Disney Princesses name. While The Little Mermaid is probably one of the world directions to go, the Play Set would be stunted not only by the princess, but by the water-bound cast. Disney will probably have to turn away from most of the early Disney Princess films altogether. With any luck, Merida or even Mulan will make Disney Infinity appearances before Ariel.

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Talkback

CericOctober 03, 2013

294,000 units.  Double Standard on Success.

Alright on the article.

CericOctober 03, 2013

I think Winnie the Pooh be an ok edition.


Now Roger Rabbit on the other hand would be one of those great on paper but not in reality combinations.  While I think the characters themselves be a great fit.  I don't see how the stages for them would work.  A large portion of the charm of Who Framed Roger Rabbit is having that contrast between the Cartoon and Real world and between Now and Then.  They would need photo realistic characters and settings to play the straight man to do it right.  They have to be different then the actual Infinity Universe style to get the contrast right.

BJWanlundOctober 03, 2013

YES to Roger Rabbit!  What about The Three Caballeros?  That technically would include a member of the Fab Five (or Six depending on your perspective), but hey, it'd certainly be interesting.

CericOctober 03, 2013

Lets really dig.  The Three Little Pigs.  They had their own series. 

MetalMario2October 03, 2013

None of these will be coming. The game ought to be called "Pixar Infinity: Featuring Johnny Depp".

CericOctober 04, 2013

To be honest Pixar properties are probably the easiest to port since they already have 3D models to start with.

Spak-SpangOctober 07, 2013

Actually Roger Rabbit would work if you only had Toon Town.  Toon Town was great and super Creepy...but you would have to get that sugary cell shaded world just perfect, and it would be a careful balance between annoying and brilliant. 



MetalMario2October 09, 2013

I actually binge-watched the Tinkerbell movies on Netflix on a day that I felt particularly bored and shiftless, and I've got to admit, they weren't that bad. Strictly kid's stuff, but not that bad. Disney is doing a good job of developing the character's genesis gradually over the course of this series of films. In the third film, they explained why Tinkerbell can't speak to humans using her normal voice, and the next film in development is supposed to feature a young Captain Hook (before Peter Pan cuts off his hand, of course).

WahOctober 09, 2013

Lucario ::)

MetalMario2October 25, 2013

Yeah, "The Black Cauldron" sucked.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorOctober 25, 2013

Song of the South.

MetalMario2October 25, 2013

They could actually do that if they left out Uncle Remus and the Tar Baby. I mean, it worked for Splash Mountain.

TeaHeeOctober 25, 2013

I didn't hate "The Black Cauldron" but I was also completely enamored with the book series it was based on back in junior high. Following much of the logic put forward against it, I would have to guess that "The Sword and the Stone" would also fall in the bad idea list.

KeyBillyOctober 27, 2013

I didn't realize that Black Couldron was so hated.  I saw it a few years ago and liked it a lot.  It has a unique tone and style that captured my imagination.  I don't plan on getting Infinity, but maybe it would work to make statues/buildings/mountains/weapons/etc. for the lesser known franchises, similar to trophies in SSB.

Jasae BushaeOctober 28, 2013

Having read the books the black cauldron is based upon, I can certainly say that the movie was worlds better by comparison and that a darker vibe would not have saved the film in the least.

And, I agree that it might not make the best of playsets for Infinity. As structured as that movie was, unless the playset was having you go through the plot of the film to detail, the creators would have to create some pretty new material (perhaps borrowing from other books in the original series?) which might be more work than they want to put in.
That said, if they did do it, it would not necesarily be a bad playset. The lone ranger playset received much much higher reviews than the film did and gets near universal praise for its approach despite the films mixed reaction. So if they were to tackle the black cauldron, they could probably make it work.


Though thinking on it, the black cauldron would actually make a pretty awesome kingdom hearts world. Given that settings penchant for telling the stories of movies over with the inclusion of kingdom hearts setting...They could simply give the horned king a cauldron that summons heartless and run the characters through a pretty solid world.


As for kim possible, I have to ask, what basis makes that series a good choice? They are already planning a phineas and ferb playset. They have the Incredibles already lined up. What could a kim possible playset offer that does not come off as a boring repeat of the already established playsets?
Lone Ranger tackled wild west
Incredibles did superheroes
Pirates did pirates
Monsters University did college life

The playsets at least for the first year or two should be trying to branch out and cover multiple genres instead of making a bunch of very similar playsets elsewise your just creating a game with tedium that is rereleasing the same content over and over.
Which would be bad for Kim Possible since as you said, it HAD its final season and its only getting older and further from public memory

TrekStyxNovember 04, 2013

I think the Kim Possible and her world of characters would be an awesome addition to Infinity.


It's true that The Incredibles already covers the superhero territory and Monsters U covers college/school life, but Kim Possible is NEITHER of these genres. She's a spy!


She's got gadgets, stealth, and acrobatics and fights evil all without the benefit of Mr. Incredible-esque strength. She's the Disney cartoon equivalent of Batman or James Bond, and the spy genre and martial arts action is something that is seriously fun and currently lacking in the current roster of Infinity swashbucklers and supers.


Plus a KP playset has great potential. If there's any doubt in your mind that her unique world of characters doesn't translate into a good gaming experience, check out the "Kim Possible: What's the Switch?" game from 2006. It is surprisingly addictive and even more surprising, incredibly challenging.


As for The Black Cauldron. It is indeed dated and doesn't work. While it may be true that something like The Lone Ranger got a playset that was more well received than its more polarizing film counterpart, that was also a modern, recent Disney property and one with Johnny "Captain Jack" Depp attached no less. Suffice it to say, The Lone Ranger deserved a second skin in gaming and Disney was rightly motivated to give it that chance.


Black Cauldron is old, irrelevant and didn't work for Disney even in its heyday. While the right group of developers might be able to fish through the source material and conjure up a fresh take on the story in game form, that would say more their own creativity than it would for The Black Cauldron as a deserving Infinity candidate.


Definitely proper good/bad ideas this week!

Tron, Flynn and Sark.


I have to disagree on Loki though—I prefer my Marvel, LucasFilm and Disney separate. If the line gets blurred, we may end up with Spider-Mickey and Darth Goofy, and I don't know if I want to live in that kind of world.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorDecember 06, 2013

You don't say....

http://www.geekrest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Darth-Goofy.jpg

I'm not sure if I'll ever get this game, but if they came out with Wall-E, my wife would buy the figurines regardless.

azekeDecember 07, 2013

Quote from: ballisticmedicine

Kill me. Now.

I know right?..

They're smearing all stinky SW business over our precious Goofy!..

Zombie Goofy in one of the latest Mickey Mouse shorts was so creepy

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