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Disney Infinity: Good Idea, Bad Idea

Roger Rabbit and Winnie the Pooh

by Becky Hollada and Kimberly Keller - October 2, 2013, 11:05 pm EDT

Don't you mean Jessica Rabbit and Winnie the Pooh?

Roger Rabbit (Good Idea) – Becky Hollada

Who Framed Roger Rabbit is a movie all about mixing worlds. It  also combined the real and cartoon worlds to create something that few people today would have a hard time not recognizing. Since Disney Infinity’s core concept is creating something new by blending bits and pieces from Disney’s trove, a Roger Rabbit themed play set would fit right in.

Literally.

Roger Rabbit comes with a combination of two separate worlds mashed into one that creates the perfect playground. Players could run through the vibrant, wacky Toontown or skip around Hollywood during its Golden Age. It’s a world with endless possibilities and enough bad puns to put Animal Crossing out on the curb.

Every boy, man, and even some women have one thing on the brain with this play set: Jessica Rabbit. Jessica is probably the only character from the movie more iconic than her husband and would easily be a fan favorite. Beating other folks with Rapunzel’s frying pan or a flamingo croquet mallet? Of course. This was the woman who hid a bear trap in her bosom. Who wouldn’t want to hear her signature line after laying someone low: “I’m not bad. I’m just drawn that way.”

Plenty of Power-Up discs could come from this set as well. Portable Holes to drop anywhere and everywhere like the new motion-sensor mine. Benny the Cab, for those times when you need a ride that does almost everything a Bond car could. Also who wouldn’t want all the pianos and safes that you can carry, or drop on people?

With a few less sex jokes and swear words, Roger Rabbit could finally see some more screen time as part of the Disney Infinity cast.


Winnie the Pooh and Friends (Bad Idea) – Kimberly Keller

With over ten movies, a ride with lines out the door at Tokyo Disneyland, and even a Taoism book based off the silly old bear himself, Winnie the Pooh and his friends are a marketing empire in their own right. These characters are so familiar to millions young and old that it would seem a natural choice for Disney to pop out some figurines so everyone can run amok in the Hundred Acre Woods.

I actually really enjoyed Pooh’s special world in Kingdom Hearts, so it’s pretty easy to imagine them all CGI-ed up. His sense of innocence and curiosity was a nice break from the game as I made new, endearingly hopeless friends and helped them get through life one day at a time. So yeah, I can see a play set based on the stuffed critters and their adorable misadventures.

Except not. The play set will be fine, maybe unbearably cute (ba dum cha!), but once that bear and his friends enter the Toy Box things get a little twisted. Picture our little rotund Pooh-Bear, or better yet, tiny little Piglet, button eyes wide and full of wonder… wielding Stitch’s Blaster, or better yet, beaning people over the head with Carl Fredricksen’s Cane. He’d probably have to jump just to reach his enemy, coming down with force and fury.

Go home Pooh. You're drunk.

The only one I can picture to an extent is Rabbit. He’s a sourpuss most of the time anyway, why not take it a step further and give him a weapon to ward off potential enemies of his vegetable garden? Then again, do I want to see Rabbit with Ralph’s Power of Destruction? That is way too much power for such a short fuse.

Looking even further at the other Power Discs, somehow picturing Rabbit (or any of the gang) riding Tantor, or one of the horses, is just… weird, somehow.

So please Disney, don’t mess with our lovable willy nilly silly old bear and his pals. He’s just not ready to play with the big kids.

Images courtesy of Kimberly Keller and Jason Pelmont.

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Talkback

CericOctober 03, 2013

294,000 units.  Double Standard on Success.

Alright on the article.

CericOctober 03, 2013

I think Winnie the Pooh be an ok edition.


Now Roger Rabbit on the other hand would be one of those great on paper but not in reality combinations.  While I think the characters themselves be a great fit.  I don't see how the stages for them would work.  A large portion of the charm of Who Framed Roger Rabbit is having that contrast between the Cartoon and Real world and between Now and Then.  They would need photo realistic characters and settings to play the straight man to do it right.  They have to be different then the actual Infinity Universe style to get the contrast right.

BJWanlundOctober 03, 2013

YES to Roger Rabbit!  What about The Three Caballeros?  That technically would include a member of the Fab Five (or Six depending on your perspective), but hey, it'd certainly be interesting.

CericOctober 03, 2013

Lets really dig.  The Three Little Pigs.  They had their own series. 

MetalMario2October 03, 2013

None of these will be coming. The game ought to be called "Pixar Infinity: Featuring Johnny Depp".

CericOctober 04, 2013

To be honest Pixar properties are probably the easiest to port since they already have 3D models to start with.

Spak-SpangOctober 07, 2013

Actually Roger Rabbit would work if you only had Toon Town.  Toon Town was great and super Creepy...but you would have to get that sugary cell shaded world just perfect, and it would be a careful balance between annoying and brilliant. 



MetalMario2October 09, 2013

I actually binge-watched the Tinkerbell movies on Netflix on a day that I felt particularly bored and shiftless, and I've got to admit, they weren't that bad. Strictly kid's stuff, but not that bad. Disney is doing a good job of developing the character's genesis gradually over the course of this series of films. In the third film, they explained why Tinkerbell can't speak to humans using her normal voice, and the next film in development is supposed to feature a young Captain Hook (before Peter Pan cuts off his hand, of course).

WahOctober 09, 2013

Lucario ::)

MetalMario2October 25, 2013

Yeah, "The Black Cauldron" sucked.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorOctober 25, 2013

Song of the South.

MetalMario2October 25, 2013

They could actually do that if they left out Uncle Remus and the Tar Baby. I mean, it worked for Splash Mountain.

TeaHeeOctober 25, 2013

I didn't hate "The Black Cauldron" but I was also completely enamored with the book series it was based on back in junior high. Following much of the logic put forward against it, I would have to guess that "The Sword and the Stone" would also fall in the bad idea list.

KeyBillyOctober 27, 2013

I didn't realize that Black Couldron was so hated.  I saw it a few years ago and liked it a lot.  It has a unique tone and style that captured my imagination.  I don't plan on getting Infinity, but maybe it would work to make statues/buildings/mountains/weapons/etc. for the lesser known franchises, similar to trophies in SSB.

Jasae BushaeOctober 28, 2013

Having read the books the black cauldron is based upon, I can certainly say that the movie was worlds better by comparison and that a darker vibe would not have saved the film in the least.

And, I agree that it might not make the best of playsets for Infinity. As structured as that movie was, unless the playset was having you go through the plot of the film to detail, the creators would have to create some pretty new material (perhaps borrowing from other books in the original series?) which might be more work than they want to put in.
That said, if they did do it, it would not necesarily be a bad playset. The lone ranger playset received much much higher reviews than the film did and gets near universal praise for its approach despite the films mixed reaction. So if they were to tackle the black cauldron, they could probably make it work.


Though thinking on it, the black cauldron would actually make a pretty awesome kingdom hearts world. Given that settings penchant for telling the stories of movies over with the inclusion of kingdom hearts setting...They could simply give the horned king a cauldron that summons heartless and run the characters through a pretty solid world.


As for kim possible, I have to ask, what basis makes that series a good choice? They are already planning a phineas and ferb playset. They have the Incredibles already lined up. What could a kim possible playset offer that does not come off as a boring repeat of the already established playsets?
Lone Ranger tackled wild west
Incredibles did superheroes
Pirates did pirates
Monsters University did college life

The playsets at least for the first year or two should be trying to branch out and cover multiple genres instead of making a bunch of very similar playsets elsewise your just creating a game with tedium that is rereleasing the same content over and over.
Which would be bad for Kim Possible since as you said, it HAD its final season and its only getting older and further from public memory

TrekStyxNovember 04, 2013

I think the Kim Possible and her world of characters would be an awesome addition to Infinity.


It's true that The Incredibles already covers the superhero territory and Monsters U covers college/school life, but Kim Possible is NEITHER of these genres. She's a spy!


She's got gadgets, stealth, and acrobatics and fights evil all without the benefit of Mr. Incredible-esque strength. She's the Disney cartoon equivalent of Batman or James Bond, and the spy genre and martial arts action is something that is seriously fun and currently lacking in the current roster of Infinity swashbucklers and supers.


Plus a KP playset has great potential. If there's any doubt in your mind that her unique world of characters doesn't translate into a good gaming experience, check out the "Kim Possible: What's the Switch?" game from 2006. It is surprisingly addictive and even more surprising, incredibly challenging.


As for The Black Cauldron. It is indeed dated and doesn't work. While it may be true that something like The Lone Ranger got a playset that was more well received than its more polarizing film counterpart, that was also a modern, recent Disney property and one with Johnny "Captain Jack" Depp attached no less. Suffice it to say, The Lone Ranger deserved a second skin in gaming and Disney was rightly motivated to give it that chance.


Black Cauldron is old, irrelevant and didn't work for Disney even in its heyday. While the right group of developers might be able to fish through the source material and conjure up a fresh take on the story in game form, that would say more their own creativity than it would for The Black Cauldron as a deserving Infinity candidate.


Definitely proper good/bad ideas this week!

Tron, Flynn and Sark.


I have to disagree on Loki though—I prefer my Marvel, LucasFilm and Disney separate. If the line gets blurred, we may end up with Spider-Mickey and Darth Goofy, and I don't know if I want to live in that kind of world.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorDecember 06, 2013

You don't say....

http://www.geekrest.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/Darth-Goofy.jpg

I'm not sure if I'll ever get this game, but if they came out with Wall-E, my wife would buy the figurines regardless.

azekeDecember 07, 2013

Quote from: ballisticmedicine

Kill me. Now.

I know right?..

They're smearing all stinky SW business over our precious Goofy!..

Zombie Goofy in one of the latest Mickey Mouse shorts was so creepy

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