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Bigger GameCube Memory Cards Might be on the Way

by Mike Sklens - March 22, 2004, 7:16 pm PST
Total comments: 37 Source: Game Informer Online

For those of you who need even more space for your game saves.

According to Game Informer, Nintendo is planning on releasing a new official memory card for the GameCube. This new card will weigh in at more four times the size of the Memory Card 251. This card will hold 1019 blocks of memory. Finally, enough room to save a ton of Madden data.

This new card is rumored to have a release sometime this spring season. Keep in mind that the card has not been officially announced and there is no price set yet.

Talkback

EminemMarch 22, 2004

I guess that's good for people who need the room. I still have a new memory card from Christmas that I haven't even used yet. Maybe some games in the future will require more space that these new cards will be needed.

anubis6789March 22, 2004

Hmmm... I just bought my 3rd 251( I also have 3 59's if you count my AC one) because I was runing out of room and didn't want to delete anything. Wish I had waited a little longer.

If this is true though I wonder what color they will be and if they will be the same size as the other 2 memory cards denominations.

NinGurl69 *hugglesMarch 22, 2004

@$#&^^$^!#^@$$$@#@$%^$

It's about time.

And I expect they'll remain the same size, since modern miniaturization seems to be very efficient these days. I have a 59 and a 251, and I've had to re-organize/delete data on many occasions.

BloodworthDaniel Bloodworth, Staff AlumnusMarch 22, 2004

I still have an open 59 lying around from when I got my second 251. I have like seven cards though:
two US 251s
Animal Crossing 59
two Japanese 59s
a Doshin 59
and the blank 59.

ruby_onixMarch 22, 2004

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This new card will weigh in at more four times the size of the Memory Card 251. This card will hold 1019 blocks of memory.


For those who didn't know, the MC59 was 1/2 of a megabyte (four megabits). The MC251 is two megabytes, which is four times as big. But you can fit more than four times as much stuff on an MC251. A "59" times four should only be "236", not "251", right?

How does it work? Add "5" to each card. The MC59 is really a 64. The MC251 is really a 256. The math works when you do that.

This new MC-1019 is really a 1024. Something on these cards takes up 5 blocks (and index, or format, or something like that). The bigger the card you get, the less of an effect that will have (compared to just using multiple cards).

(BTW, this new card will be 8 megabytes, the same size as the memory card used by the PS2, which Sony has been rumored to lose money on for a long time now.)

What color do you think it'll be? The 59 was the white plasic from the front of the GCN. The 251 was the same black plastic as the Jet GameCube. What's next? Indigo? Platinum? Spice?

Ian SaneMarch 22, 2004

It's about time. I've managed to make due with one 251 card so far (the 59 I bought at launch is now used for my brother's Animal Crossing save) but I'm seriously running out of room and with Pokemon Colosseum coming out soon I think I'm going to have to delete some of the old rental game saves I have on my card. I hope they release this soon because I would hate to have to buy a new 251 card because of necessity only to have this bigger card come out.

Hopefully Nintendo will learn from this experience and release a decent sized card from the get go for the N5.

SheckyMarch 22, 2004

Don't forget clear, N. likes to think that's a separate color.... (if you ask me there were only 3 colors for the standard controller at launch) - Actually I'm quite happy with the Interact 8Mb card.... does have this occational habbit of scaring me a few times and looking totally blank in the internal memory card browser though...

SheckyMarch 22, 2004

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
Hopefully Nintendo will learn from this experience and release a decent sized card from the get go for the N5.


Or maybe we'll actually see the SD adapter by then :rolleyes:

mouse_clickerMarch 22, 2004

I let my friend borrow a few of my Gamecube games recently and in return he gave me a memory card 251 (he got like 5 for Christmas). In addition I have another memory card 251 and three memory card 59's, including my Animal Crossing one. Needless to say I'm set for quite a while. face-icon-small-happy.gif

BernyMarch 22, 2004

I have 3 blocks left on my 2 59s so I am overjoyed.
face-icon-small-thumbsup.gif for doing this Ninty
face-icon-small-thumbsdown.gif for not doing this from the start

anubis6789March 22, 2004

I think that "missing" 5 blocks on the memory cards actually hold the formating data. Does anyone know for sure?

JBMarch 22, 2004

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Originally posted by: ruby_onix
This new MC-1019 is really a 1024. Something on these cards takes up 5 blocks (and index, or format, or something like that). The bigger the card you get, the less of an effect that will have (compared to just using multiple cards).


The file index table of the filesystem used on the memory card is what uses up the 5 blocks. The size of this table is also what stops you from putting more than 128 saves on a single memory card, because the name of the save, the aniimated icon and the banner also have to be stored within these 5 blocks.

joshnickersonMarch 22, 2004

Great, I was just about to go out and get a third party card for all my Mario Kart and 1080 ghosts and replays, but now I can just wait for the official one.

KDR_11kMarch 23, 2004

I can fit all of my saves (20 games) on one 251...

RareWareMarch 23, 2004

And I just bought two 1019 interact ones... darn.... Oh well, it was only $20.

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(BTW, this new card will be 8 megabytes, the same size as the memory card used by the PS2, which Sony has been rumored to lose money on for a long time now.)


Hmmm... so you mean to say that Nintendo released smaller-sized cards in order to not lose a deal of money for each card they sell?

Interesting... and I thought that they did so because they were simply behind the times...

Carmine M. Red
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kovu_brMarch 23, 2004

I do hope they release it soon, my 251 memory card just ran out of space.

RennyMarch 23, 2004

Since only one game supports the SD now anyway, I wouldn't count on it for future game saves. Maybe the next Zelda will be released 6 months before the N5 and require it, but until then the best we'll get is 8MB I guess.

As for the color, clear seems like a good possibility. Hori already makes "officially liscenced" Indigo, Silver, Jet and Spice 251s. So unless they use different colors than Japan it would have to be clear, or maybe Emerald. :¬]

For the price of a PS2 memory card, I really doubt Sony ever lost money on them. Those things sold for $35 at launch.

Bill AurionMarch 23, 2004

It should be pink...Why?...'Cause I say so... face-icon-small-cool.gif

DeguelloJeff Shirley, Staff AlumnusMarch 23, 2004

I expect EA Sports save files to expand to 900 blocks. Because, just in case you didn't know... EA is bloatware.

ThePermMarch 23, 2004

i have a 251, 2 mc59, and 1 ac mc59, and an interact 8mb card. I dont use the huge one much but when i run out of space on my 251 then i'll just shift data from the 251 to the 8mb card..the 8mb card voerheats so i dont use itfor play...just storage.

BernyMarch 23, 2004

Your 8MB overheats?! o_O Actually, that's hilarious. face-icon-small-laugh.gif I want 4 of these on my desk by noon! Get on it!
*wants to play Harvest Moon and Twin Snakes*

ruby_onixMarch 23, 2004

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For the price of a PS2 memory card, I really doubt Sony ever lost money on them. Those things sold for $35 at launch.


I'm not 100% certain, but I remember hearing, about a year or two in, that Sony cranked the MSRP on the up to something crazy like $45, but a bunch of retailers said that their customers wouldn't pay that much, and refused to get more stock from Sony at that price (which caused a small shortage, letting other retailers get away with charging the $45 price), and then a month later, Sony quietly knocked the price back down to $35.

I think I was reading about it as it happened in the GameSpot letter columns, where some retailers were venting. I think that's where it was. It was quite a while ago. I can hardly remember it.

It could be that Sony was just being greedy. But some people were speculating that it was a money-loser, and Sony was hoping to fix that. But again, I'm not an expert. That's just what I heard.

Ian SaneMarch 23, 2004

"I expect EA Sports save files to expand to 900 blocks. Because, just in case you didn't know... EA is bloatware."

I guess you could describe EA as the console equivalent of Microsoft. Except that Microsoft is the console equivalent of Microsoft. face-icon-small-smile.gif

How much of the PS2 memory cards do EA Sports games take up? I imagine it would be comparable.

I think the ideal thing for Nintendo to do with the N5 is just use SD cards for saves. No adapter, just straight out SD ports on the console and people can buy whatever size they want. By then I assume the smaller cards will be easily affordable. Best of all by using SD cards it would make it easy for people to store saves on their PC or trade saves over the internet. But then maybe I should shut-up in case Nintendo is reading this as they would probably not like the idea of people storing saves on PCs for whatever reason.

KyoshoMarch 23, 2004

thank god, I was gonna go out and pick up that Interact 16x. I read some reviews on that, and it was pretty bad. I hate how these sports game require these insane memory requirements. I picked up MVP baseball, and it says it needs 160 blocks for franchise (which I have on my 251) but for some reason it won't let me save. Any ETA when this is coming out? I've only been playing the quick games lol

nickmitchMarch 23, 2004

I fell kind of left out because I had 2 59's and then I bought the interact 16x and I'm still not out of room for my 31 games and I also have the limited edition AR with the 16x card so I've been set for life for a while now...

MarioMarch 23, 2004

Oh god damnit, my 59 is full and my 251 has like 6 blocks left, and i have to get a new 251 in the next week, why can't this new memory card be out NOW. My feelings for Nintendo have been very negative lately... argh.

WHY DUN GCN HAV HARDDRIVE LETS ALL BUY AN XBOX face-icon-small-smile.gif

Uncle Rich AiAiMarch 23, 2004

I have 2 59s (one I got w/ AC) and a 251. A 59 and 251 are nearly full (I use the 59 for backup) and the other 59 is free.

But I had to delete my Pikmin save ages ago when I only had a 59. face-icon-small-sad.gif

I'm glad Nintendo is finally getting around to releasing a bigger MC. Chances are I won't need one.

RichMarch 27, 2004

Oh man lets see I have 3 251s and then 4 59s including my Animal crossing card. The reason for all the cards is because I have two younger siblings who each want their own season in Madden. Unless I buy a game that needs over 251 then I'm not gonna bother picking this up. Two of my 59 cards are empty.

ThePermMarch 27, 2004

hmm, if they decide to not rerlease tyhe sd adapter here..then maybe they'll release mc1000s for animal crossign 2

Metroid maskedMarch 27, 2004

bout time but i hope this isnt one of the new killer acessories for the cube.

Bill AurionMarch 29, 2004

It's set for June 8th at a price of 30 dollars...

NinGurl69 *hugglesMarch 29, 2004

Do I get this new fat card, or do I get the GameSaves Memory Manager? HMMMMMMMM

BernyMarch 31, 2004

June 8th. 30 Washingtons. (spelling intentional) Hm. I don't think I can wait that long. Although it will be summer and I will have a job.

OldskoolApril 01, 2004

Unfortunatly, the key word here is "might".

SheckyJune 10, 2004

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Originally posted by: Shecky
Don't forget clear, N. likes to think that's a separate color.... (if you ask me there were only 3 colors for the standard controller at launch) - Actually I'm quite happy with the Interact 8Mb card.... does have this occational habbit of scaring me a few times and looking totally blank in the internal memory card browser though...


If the picture on the demo disk is to be believed .... the new cards are white.... err polar ..... err artic....err whatever N likes to call #FFFFFF

So grey, black, white

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