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Games We Want on Handheld Virtual Console

Games for Karlie Yeung

by Karlie Yeung - February 3, 2011, 5:27 pm EST

A crippling addiction comes to light, and a popular Nintendo series appears in double.

A title I'd really like to be able to play on-the-go is Pokémon Puzzle Challenge, originally released on Game Boy Color (and similarly on Nintendo 64 as Pokémon Puzzle League). I've chosen this over Tetris Attack as it has saving capability rather than passwords, it's more colourful, and it includes an additional Garbage Mode, and Super Hard and Intense difficulties, turning the CPU into an impossibly fast tyrant who throws the largest possible, most-difficult-to-clear garbage blocks at you within seconds of starting a round. At least you get to hear the combo sound often.

While the Nintendo DS has Planet Puzzle League, it just doesn't feel the same. The stylus controls only slow things down. The sound effects are also far less satisfying than the click, click, clicking away of the Pokémon-themed version. The story mode of the Pokémon variety is a superficial layer that has no effect on gameplay. Battling trainers unlocks more Pokémon to play as, and playing through the story mode will take you through battles with the various trainers and gym leaders in the region. However, the absence of a story mode does leave Planet Puzzle League lacking, since it takes a lot of motivation away as there's no sense of completion. All the levels are just there, waiting, at the start.





Panel de Pon is a game I never tire of (until I lose against the CPU 180 times in a row on the hardest difficulty). I own practically every version released, including the Japan-only Nintendo Puzzle Collection on GameCube. The ease of a portable, downloadable Virtual Console version would mean that yes, I would add yet another version to my collection to feed my Panel de Pon addiction.





My second choice game is the Legend of Zelda: Oracle of Ages/Seasons. I've played them through several times myself, but I think they were overlooked and deserve another chance. The games are a blend of Link's Awakening and A Link to the Past in gameplay and story style, and have combat and puzzles that are on equal terms with both the Game Boy and SNES titles. Perhaps a reason they were overlooked is that development was done by Capcom's Flagship team rather than Nintendo. The game series was still supervised by Nintendo, and when the ambitious Triforce trilogy of games was deemed too complex, it was Shigeru Miyamoto who suggested it was scaled back to two games. 

Nintendo later hired the director of these two titles, Flagship's Hidemaro Fujibayashi, after Capcom dissolved the developer. He has since joined Nintendo EAD where he co-directed Phantom Hourglass and is now directing the upcoming Skyward Sword.

Oracle of Ages

Impressively, each game is a full handheld Zelda title and contains completely different overworlds and dungeons.

Oracle of Ages is said have more of a puzzle focus and Link travels into the past to overcome the overworld's obstacles and avert the fate of the Maku Tree. It's not unlike A Link to the Past's Light World and Dark World. I wouldn't put too much weight on the puzzle/combat comparison though, since Oracle of Seasons is said to be the combat focused of the two, yet it also gives you the underground world of Subrosia, home of quirky characters closer to those of Link's Awakening than any other title. In Subrosia, you'll spend more time digging at the beach and dancing than encountering anything dangerous.

Oracle of Seasons

After you complete either game, you're presented with a password to start the next game with. This changes the game by giving you additional passwords to unlock rings in each game for your collection and changing the placement of some items. The story also incorporates characters from the other game, as well as presenting the true, final ending. Having both of these titles in digital form would give quick and easy access to the password-unlock features as you would never have to switch out a cartridge.

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AVJanuary 31, 2011

i love this idea !!!!


MORE MORE MORE !!!!!!



BlackNMild2k1January 31, 2011

In before Kyitim..... ;D

ToruresuJanuary 31, 2011

Definately Metroid II. It's rough on the edges now, but it's still a good game - it gave me the creeps!


Edit: How could I forget Balloon Kid!

Kytim89January 31, 2011

I could sense that this thread was created some how. Although my wishlist for the GB/GBC is very small, which consists mainly of Metroid 2, most of favorites are for the GBA. Yes, the GBA has not been announced, but it can bet that will be available soon.

Sword of Mana
Final Fantasy Tactics Advance
Metroid Fusion
Golden Sun 1 and 2
GTA Advance
LoZ: The Minish Cap
Gunstar Super Heroes
Mario and Luigi: Super Star Saga

AdrockJanuary 31, 2011

Sword of Mana might be the only pre-DS/PSP handheld game I wanted but missed out on (Star Ocean: Second Evolution is currently impossible to find in stores around me). I don't know what happened there either. Maybe the original GBC Shantae too, but with Risky's Revenge, I don't feel too bad about missing the GBC one. I was more retroactively upset for missing out because I didn't hear about it until years after when a GBA sequel was almost going to happen then didn't.

I had my chance at getting Golden Sun: The Lost Age last year for like $5 and I passed on it. I liked the first one, just not enough to play through the sequel.

LJKKJLCM9January 31, 2011

Great choices....
I still have my GBC and all 3 of those games!


THE JACKEL

My demands are simple:
- Donkey Kong '94
- Oracle Zeldas
- Kirby Star Stacker
- Pokemon Trading Card Game

RABicleJanuary 31, 2011

Survival Kids

that is all.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorFebruary 01, 2011

I'm going to second the Oracle Zeldas.  I was half tempted to pop 'em out the other day and replay them, but decided to wait on the eventual 3DS releases of them.  I wonder if I'll be able to use the cartridge version's passwords...

Also, not GB/GBC - but Four Swords, playable via wireless multi-player.  That's something that hasn't been touched upon yet, as far as I know... how will the 3DS VC handle multi-player?

NemoFebruary 01, 2011

Revenge of the 'Gator!

Pedro's stuff is up on Tuesday.

I believe Zach is slated for Wednesday.

Karlie Thursday.

Neal Friday.

Saturday we might have forced another staffer to do it.

Sunday we rest.

Retro DeckadesFebruary 01, 2011

Glad to see that Shaymin mentioned DK '94. One game which I bought without knowing anything about it but played endlessly and enjoyed immensely was the first Game and Watch title for the Game Boy. Though only featuring 4 games -- Manhole, Fire, Octopus and Oil Panic -- the modern versions all play great, making this my favourite of the Game and Watch titles.

The Wario Land games are a must (perhaps we'll see Virtual Boy's entry someday?), as well as Kirby's Dream Land 2, which is one of the very best Kirby games.

I'd also love to see Mega Man 5, as I never did own it.

I wouldn't mind seeing an entry on Saturday that lists editor's top 5s or mentions other games that were not originally discussed.

If James and I ever have to pull a two-man RFN for some insane reason, it's good to know that we can just talk about the awesome Crystalis that whole time.

I demand Mario Tennis for GBC, one of my all-time favorites.

Indeed! Donkey Kong '94 and the DKL trilogy (even though the third was horribly glitchy), the Warioland series and Metroid 2 are my first choices.
Mario Land 2 is also inevitable. I'd love to see the three original gameboy Castlevania games, too.
Maybe Fortress of Fear? I miss that game...

I'm still half expecting some kind of special feature using the DS-Wii linkup capability to allow Pokemon R/B VC to communicate with Pokemon Stadium N64 VC.
It'll likely never happen, but nonetheless the technology exists, and it'd be a great way to get your retro Pokem on.

MorariFebruary 01, 2011

I want GameGear games... 'nuff said.

When this idea was first pitched, I asked if they wanted to expand the scope beyond the Game Boy. The idea was flatly rejected.

BlackNMild2k1February 01, 2011

Quote from: Crimm

When this idea was first pitched, I asked if they wanted to expand the scope beyond the Game Boy. The idea was flatly rejected.

save it for a future article. It will probably be a good long while before you even get most of the stuff that you would list from just the GB.

Mop it upFebruary 01, 2011

The Mega Man X games aren't likely to be released on the Wii Virtual Console, so the Game Boy versions would be the next best thing.

I actually dug out Xtreme 1. I can't find 2.

:-\ I like 2 more.

SupaKirbFebruary 03, 2011

Great list Zach. I'm surprised no one has put any old Pokemon games on here... I definently want both some Kirby and Pokemon action. I could play the originals forever.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorFebruary 03, 2011

Quote from: UncleBob

That's something that hasn't been touched upon yet, as far as I know... how will the 3DS VC handle multi-player?

No one's touched this... Could they do GB/GBC games without multi-player?  How much would that suck?

TJ SpykeFebruary 03, 2011

I didn't play too many GB/GBC games, but weren't the majority of them single player? I know some (like Pokemon) used a lot of multiplayer, but weren't those in the minority?

But if they support multiplayer, then UncleBob's hacked together Faceball 2000 multiplayer solution could become a lot less unique.

Quote from: insanolord

But if they support multiplayer, then UncleBob's hacked together Faceball 2000 multiplayer solution could become a lot less unique.

FACEBALL 2000

*clears throat* Excuse me.


There are Game Boy emulators that even emulate the multiplayer. It shouldn't be that hard to trick the game into treating the wireless as the ol' black cable.

There are N64 emulators capable of emulating the controller pak, but that didn't stop Nintendo from leaving it out of the Virtual Console implementation.

The only game in my collection that it has prevented from coming out is Aidyn Chronicles: The First Mage.


I support the decision to leave it out on those grounds alone.

Karlie's post is live.

Panel de Pon addict approved.

{temp derail} You know, I've used the buttons for so long in Planet Puzzle League I totally forgot you can use the stylus. {/temp derail}

I totally forgot there was a Panel de Pon on the GBC, too.

Kytim89February 03, 2011

I want all the TMNT games for the Gameboy on the 3DS.

TheFleeceFebruary 03, 2011

I played a whole mess ton of Pokemon Puzzle League and then I replaced it with Planet Puzzle League which is pretty much the same game, but without Pokemen. Then I gave it away so if it came out for download I would get it, I suppose. Oracle of Ages and Time are games I always wanted to play, but at the time they came out I couldn't afford both and didn't know anyone else who even played GBA. 
My wish list is pretty standard because I grew up with the first Game Boy and I while I actually have a GB system, I'd just like to replay all the classics on better hardware- 3d or not. I was a huge fan of the Wario series so I'd like those the most, but  I'd like to see Shantae and Super Princess Peach being made available.
I have a NGP (Neo Geo Pocket) and I would love to play those games and stuff from the Lynx too down the line. I hope Nintendo can work it out.

SupaKirbFebruary 04, 2011

OMG! I loved Pokemon Puzzle collection! At first I never thought I would, but it was sooo much fun!!!! Also Zelda! This list was really great!

Ryan CannonFebruary 04, 2011

I was hoping someone would point out Oracles or ages and seasons. 

In case you didn't know, Zach's went up two days ago, and my entry went up today.


Lauren makes her long-awaited (maybe?) return to writing things for NWR with her selection tomorrow.

Fun thing this feature has taught me: our staff can't follow directions.

yoshi1001February 05, 2011

Quote from: Shaymin

My demands are simple:
...
- Pokemon Trading Card Game

I have little doubt that will come out eventually-the cross-maketing opportunity is too great to pass on.

Quote from: Crimm

Fun thing this feature has taught me: our staff can't follow directions.

I personally like the bonus games Zach and Pedro wrote about. I also like the game that Lauren wrote, if only for the sake that I don't know how to properly pronounce it.

KDR_11kFebruary 06, 2011

That Catrap game is on most too-many-in-one pirate carts for the GB IIRC. I think my cart called it Pit Boy.

I finally played Catrap this weekend, and it is a lot of fun. Read what it is in Lauren's entry.

YankeeFebruary 06, 2011

Color me shocked. No mention of the ever so popular Cho Aniki: Otoko no Tamafuda for the Wonderswan by Mr. Lindemann! Come on, you know it will happen eventually!

TJ SpykeFebruary 06, 2011

Quote from: Yankee

Color me shocked. No mention of the ever so popular Cho Aniki: Otoko no Tamafuda for the Wonderswan by Mr. Lindemann! Come on, you know it will happen eventually!

They had to pick games for Game Boy and Game Boy Color (since those are the only ones confirmed for 3DS VC right now).

Jon forgot to mention that, the first time I met him, we sat in line for E3 playing my copy of Bionic Commando: Elite Forces.

Oh snap, I totally forgot about that.  Didn't you play my copy of Pokemon Pinball?

Quote from: NWR_Lindy

Oh snap, I totally forgot about that.  Didn't you play my copy of Pokemon Pinball?

If I were less mature I'd make a joke here. Instead I'll just imply it. That's how adults handle such things.

gamedude98February 07, 2011

THIS IDEA ROCKS HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARD:)

Nah, I already owned Pokemon Pinball and had been playing it for 100+ hours.

Well I know I let you play something on my GBC...maybe Wario Land II?

WL2 was the first game I bought for my GBC... in 1998. So I doubt I played your copy in 2001.


By the way, I like Josh's choices. WL3 is obviously fantastic and almost won RetroActive (twice). Pokemon TCG is one I haven't played, but I heard really good things about it at the time.

Ryan CannonFebruary 08, 2011

All these ideas are actually all really good. hopefully someone from nintendo will read these and say "Hey! thats a good idea!" I need to save up for some wiiware points.

Kytim should be happy with my selections.

NemoFebruary 09, 2011

I'm glad to see someone else giving Revenge of the 'Gator some props. Especially, a staffer doing it on the site. :) Whenever I went on trips with my cousins (who had a GameBoy), this was the game I'd always play.

TJ SpykeFebruary 09, 2011

What I like about features like this is reading about game I had never even heard of before (like Revenge of the 'Gator and Catrap).

I have fond memories of play Revenge of the Gator's multi-player mode. No shortage of love for that classic at NWR!

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