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Retailer Showing "Smash Splat" Wii U Bundle For Black Friday

by Donald Theriault - November 6, 2015, 4:40 pm EST
Total comments: 12 Source: Meijer

Three weeks out from the parade of acquisition, Nintendo's coming out swinging. UPDATE: Further confirmation

Ads have begun to come out for Black Friday - the biggest shopping day of the year in the United States - and it looks like Nintendo is in with a major bundle.

Grocery chain Meijer has listed some of their Black Friday offerings, and one of the items is a "Smash Splat Deluxe Set" Wii U that includes Super Smash Bros and Splatoon. The set is listed at $249.99 on the 27th of November and Meijer is including a $30 gift card with a coupon code as well.

The box art for the bundle indicates that both titles are preinstalled on the console, ready to go out of the box (barring updates).

UPDATE: The GameStop Black Friday ad includes the same bundle, with the same name, but at $279.

Talkback

Ian SaneNovember 06, 2015

Is that $250 just a Black Friday sale or a price cut?  I'm not that interested in either game but if that's a permanent price cut I'll go for it (though with the Canadian dollar being so weak it might just bring the price BACK to where it was; we actually got a price INCREASE with the Mario Maker bundle).  Both games are ones I figure I'll enjoy, they're just not ones I'm so interested in I would run out and get them.

OedoNovember 06, 2015

The ad still shows the regular price as $299.99 and they're listing this under a "Friday Only Sale," so it's probably not a permanent price cut.

SorenNovember 06, 2015

The Gamestop Black Friday Ad is out and the Nintendo offerings are anemic.

KhushrenadaNovember 06, 2015

That'll move the chains!

Mop it upNovember 06, 2015

With the crazy deals available for PS4 and XBONE, it shoulda been $199.99 at least, but at least they are doing something.

peacefulwarNovember 06, 2015

obligatory comment about Nintendo shooting themselves in the foot and being behind the times.

Ian SaneNovember 06, 2015

It is hard to have a lot of enthusiasm for the NX when I see stuff like Nintendo being so damn stubborn about the price point because it's nuts but also seems like exactly the sort of thing the Nintendo of the last ten years or so would do.  So the NX is going to be Nintendo's comeback console but they're still making very questionable decisions so what has changed?  What have they learned?  If this was some new and improved Nintendo they wouldn't be so damn crazy about this.

And if they're being crazy about this what else are they being crazy about?  That's why my faith in them has withered away.  They get easy stuff just bafflingly wrong all of the time so how are they going to get the big important stuff right?  You don't transition from stubbornly refusing to lower the price on a product that isn't selling to releasing THE product that everyone wants a year later.  It doesn't work that way.  Improvement is a gradual process.  If they had their shit together they would have lowered the price by now.  But no they're being stubborn out-of-touch mushheads so presumably they will also be stubborn out-of-touch mushheads when the NX comes out.

Luigi DudeNovember 07, 2015

Quote from: Ian

It is hard to have a lot of enthusiasm for the NX when I see stuff like Nintendo being so damn stubborn about the price point because it's nuts but also seems like exactly the sort of thing the Nintendo of the last ten years or so would do.  So the NX is going to be Nintendo's comeback console but they're still making very questionable decisions so what has changed?  What have they learned?  If this was some new and improved Nintendo they wouldn't be so damn crazy about this.

And if they're being crazy about this what else are they being crazy about?  That's why my faith in them has withered away.  They get easy stuff just bafflingly wrong all of the time so how are they going to get the big important stuff right?  You don't transition from stubbornly refusing to lower the price on a product that isn't selling to releasing THE product that everyone wants a year later.  It doesn't work that way.  Improvement is a gradual process.  If they had their shit together they would have lowered the price by now.  But no they're being stubborn out-of-touch mushheads so presumably they will also be stubborn out-of-touch mushheads when the NX comes out.

At this point what does lowering the price really do for them?  With the NX coming out next year, it's not worth taking a huge loss lowering the price to increase the userbase for a system that's only being supported one more year.  Plus the reason the Wii U had a hard time dropping in price because it's not the most cost effective system to product, thanks in large part to the Game Pad.

If the NX is actually being designed with actual cost efficiency in mind, that right there can make a bigger difference in the systems.  The problem with the Wii U is many of it's faults were created before it even launched, so Nintendo has no choice but to ride it out since it would have cost a lot more to fix these problems after release.  The 3DS early huge price drop caused Nintendo to take their first yearly loss in their entire 100+ year history and Sony had to loss over 5 billion trying to turn around the PS3.  Not hard to see why they're being stubborn with the Wii U's price still.

The NX allows them to get it right from the start so the Wii U's failings don't exactly mean anything for how the NX is going to be when if Nintendo releases a product better designed then the Wii U, it'll allow for something like price to be easier to fix this time around.

StealthNovember 07, 2015

The bundle is fine.

Ian SaneNovember 09, 2015

Quote from: Luigi

At this point what does lowering the price really do for them?  With the NX coming out next year, it's not worth taking a huge loss lowering the price to increase the userbase for a system that's only being supported one more year.  Plus the reason the Wii U had a hard time dropping in price because it's not the most cost effective system to product, thanks in large part to the Game Pad.

At this point lowering the price would get fence-sitters like myself on board and buying a couple of games.  The Wii U has some great games, it just has such weak support that it isn't well suited as someone's primary console but it works well as a secondary one.  So why not get some impulse buys on this last Christmas and sell some more copies of the major titles?  Sell some more Mario and SSB and Mario Kart and such because you can't sell games to people that don't own your console.

Now if Nintendo really would take a bath if they lowered the price then I can see why they don't do it but I know Nintendo likes to have a profit margin on their hardware so I highly doubt the Wii U's components are so expensive that the margin has not changed at all over the years.  I really doubt they're right against the wall and can't lower the price at all.  I think they're being stubborn.  They don't want to admit the Wii U is a flop and they feel cutting the price will show that.  Or they're using the logic of the little kid selling lemonade for a $100 a glass and thinking "I only have to sell one".  They're very focused on profits from hardware which is why they see third party support as an afterthought and they're nuts for weird accessories and when hardware sales plateau they go with half-steps like the DSi and New 3DS to try to get people to double-dip.  They don't think about the money to be made from software sales.  Sell more consoles and there are more customers to buy your games.  Every Wii U games sales are effectively capped by the low userbase.

They're thinking that selling 5 Wii U's at $300 will make $1500 while they'll have to sell 6 Wii U's at $250 to match it.  Ah but what if you sell SSB U to all those customers?  $60 x 5 = $300 but $60 x 6 = $360.  Hey look you made more money with a cheaper console.  I'm simplifying it and obviously if you take a loss on the console then it's no good but if you're just taking a smaller profit on it (or breaking even) you can benefit from the increased game sales that come with it.  This is just routine videogame business stuff that Nintendo themselves have done.  You sell at a higher price point at first and as the sales slow down and the hardware becomes cheaper to make you lower the price and increase the userbase with a more impulse-buy price point.  Seriously is the Wii U going to stay at $300 for it's entire life?

This whole thing is very unconventional and goes against industry trends.  That's the sort of ass-backwards nonsense that doomed the Wii U in the first place. In 2015 Nintendo is still being weird and nutty for no good reason and in 2016 they're supposed to just turn that around?  Yeah right.

michaelbaysuperfan616November 09, 2015

Quote from: Ian

Quote from: Luigi

At this point what does lowering the price really do for them?  With the NX coming out next year, it's not worth taking a huge loss lowering the price to increase the userbase for a system that's only being supported one more year.  Plus the reason the Wii U had a hard time dropping in price because it's not the most cost effective system to product, thanks in large part to the Game Pad.

At this point lowering the price would get fence-sitters like myself on board and buying a couple of games.  The Wii U has some great games, it just has such weak support that it isn't well suited as someone's primary console but it works well as a secondary one.  So why not get some impulse buys on this last Christmas and sell some more copies of the major titles?  Sell some more Mario and SSB and Mario Kart and such because you can't sell games to people that don't own your console.

Now if Nintendo really would take a bath if they lowered the price then I can see why they don't do it but I know Nintendo likes to have a profit margin on their hardware so I highly doubt the Wii U's components are so expensive that the margin has not changed at all over the years.  I really doubt they're right against the wall and can't lower the price at all.  I think they're being stubborn.  They don't want to admit the Wii U is a flop and they feel cutting the price will show that.  Or they're using the logic of the little kid selling lemonade for a $100 a glass and thinking "I only have to sell one".  They're very focused on profits from hardware which is why they see third party support as an afterthought and they're nuts for weird accessories and when hardware sales plateau they go with half-steps like the DSi and New 3DS to try to get people to double-dip.  They don't think about the money to be made from software sales.  Sell more consoles and there are more customers to buy your games.  Every Wii U games sales are effectively capped by the low userbase.

They're thinking that selling 5 Wii U's at $300 will make $1500 while they'll have to sell 6 Wii U's at $250 to match it.  Ah but what if you sell SSB U to all those customers?  $60 x 5 = $300 but $60 x 6 = $360.  Hey look you made more money with a cheaper console.  I'm simplifying it and obviously if you take a loss on the console then it's no good but if you're just taking a smaller profit on it (or breaking even) you can benefit from the increased game sales that come with it.  This is just routine videogame business stuff that Nintendo themselves have done.  You sell at a higher price point at first and as the sales slow down and the hardware becomes cheaper to make you lower the price and increase the userbase with a more impulse-buy price point.  Seriously is the Wii U going to stay at $300 for it's entire life?

This whole thing is very unconventional and goes against industry trends.  That's the sort of ass-backwards nonsense that doomed the Wii U in the first place. In 2015 Nintendo is still being weird and nutty for no good reason and in 2016 they're supposed to just turn that around?  Yeah right.

I think it makes more sense to milk the Wii U for as much money as possible so they have the cash to give NX the support it deserves. Next year Wii U is going to be in bargain bins so might as well get the most out of it this year as they can.

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