Wow, nice. Nintendo got another 3rd party exclusive. I'm glad they're on such good terms with Platinum Games. They're a great dev to have in their corner. Hopefully, Hideki Kamiya can get started on Star Fox soon.

This is actually the first 3rd party game that I am absolutely psyched about! The first game is incredible.

Loved the first game, glad to see an sequel coming.  Wonder if they are going port the first one over?  Would make an great "preorder" special. = )

Is this really a third party game? Nintendo are publishing and producing it. Sega is not involved in anyway(will only be on the box because they own the IP).

I loved it when Reggie made the sly comment that this was probably not the game we were expecting from Platinum.  That gives me hope that they are also working on Star Fox.

He could have been referring to Metal Gear Rising: Re-Fuck-The-English-Language-Vengeance.

Bitter tears for the HD fans.

This was one of the few games on the HD consoles that I looked on in envy.  Kinda surprised they made it, since Bayonetta 1 did not exactly light up the sales charts.

Same here.
This game should have been announced at E3. Would have made the conference much better.

I am happy about this. Maybe we will get the first game on the eShop? I look forward to future collaborations between Nintendo and Platnium games.

I think Nintendo would have to work with Sega to get the first game onto the Wii U.  I don't think they'd mind if Nintendo did the publishing though. Or is the first game wholly owned by Platinum still and Sega just did distribution and publishing?

I know Mass Effect 1 can't be released on other consoles because MS published it and EA published 2 & 3.

Just buy Platinum, Nintendo.

It's a perfect fit.

Only if they want to be part of the Nintendo family, like Monolith Software did. Those dudes left Capcom presumably so they would have complete freedom over their games. Unless Platinum Games specifically requests to be part of Nintendo, it's probably just as beneficial for Nintendo to keep ties close and continue reaping the benefits on exclusive titles.

Creatively, i don't think Miyamoto's or Sakurai's views would clash with any of Platinum's guys' visions. They're pretty on the same wave or at least it looks that way for me.

Financially, though... Nintendo occasionally gets to be pretty cynical in terms of sequelisation, even more so than Capcom ever did. You might have some wiggle room though, like Sakurai who fed up with sequels at HAL left to do Meteos and Kid Icarus. Sakurai is a very special case though, with him being so close personally with NCL president.

Well, Kamiya DID beg to develop Star Fox a few years ago...

Actually Bayonetta sold quite well for Platinum Games, it's in the million+ club.  Wasn't surprised to see an sequel coming. 

This makes two Platinum Games coming to the Wii U; this and the Wonderful Life so maybe there's hope for a port of Metal Gear Rising: Revengeance that they are also working on. 

Woudn't mind seeing an sequel of Madworld as well (in color though) but I doubt that will ever happen.

Don't see why they couldn't do it as a third party like how Sega and Namco made Nintendo franchise games (F Zero and Star Fox).

I did my part. In fact i bought xbox just so i can play this game (and RDR, and Mortal Kombat).

But it's not that clear cut.

SEGA games nowadays have a bad habit of getting slashed in price for like 70% in mere months. So million or not, they could still not get enough profits from it.

It's a third party game since Nintendo doesn't own the UP and are just publishing it. Sega owns the IP (or at least the trademark for "Bayonetta").

This is a pretty good catch for Nintendo.  The Wii U has a tough problem with third party support.  It needs third party games to sell but what core gamer will buy a Wii U for third party games that are already available on the PS3 or Xbox 360, which they almost certainly already own?  Yeah so there's Mass Effect 3 and Black Ops II and Arkham City and that's all great but I would never buy a Wii U for any of those because I already have a PS3.  I don't need a new system to access those games.  And this is worse than the typical situation where a third party game is multiplatform on a new system.  In most cases all the systems are relatively new.  A PS3 launch game that was also on the Xbox 360 still had good potential to sell a system because the 360 was only a year old so most of the target audience still didn't have them.  But the Wii U is sharing games with consoles that are at least six years old.  Most of the target audience already has a system that has access to them.  That means that the Wii U has to sell primarily on exclusives.  Now Nintendo has a strong exclusive first party selection but they've had that forever.  No one will ever be sold on a Nintendo system for the first party lineup unless they're already a dedicated Nintendo fan.

The Wii typically got exclusives from third parties but they emphasized the "exclude" part.  It was the negative exclusive.  It was the "you can't handle the real game so here's some specialized casual title" as if the Wii was the little kid of the group that needed a kids meal.  Bayonetta 2 is the good kind of exclusive.  It's the "first kid at school with the hot new toy" instead of the "only kid at school with leg braces".  There are PS360 owners who have the first Bayonetta and would want the sequel but can only get it if they buy a Wii U.  THAT is exactly what Nintendo wants.  Now some big multiplatform games are there too so that the Wii U isn't an island on its own.  The ideal situation is that one can own JUST a Wii U and be able to keep up with most of the big games.  And if a PS360 owner buys a Wii U for Bayonetta 2 he might then buy the Wii U version of a multiplatform title because of extras it has.  Those extras are probably not enough to justify a whole console purchase but they can tip the Wii U version in favour for someone who has already made the purchase.

I'm not totally confident in the Wii U but this is encouraging.  It needs multiplatform third party games and key third party exclusives and it does have both.  It's too early to see if that will make a difference (the Gamecube had both of those as well) but a year ago I was afraid they might have neither.  It's a good sign.

*yawn* whatever. Not my thing, but picking up a game that didn't do so well last time but has a rabid fanbase is a decent move.

You could use that same argument against the Xbox 360 or PS3.

"Why would I buy a PS3 when I can get most of those games on an Xbox 360?"

"Why would I buy an Xbox 360 when I can get most of those games on a PS3?"

Exclusives (either 1st-party or 3rd-party) are what set each console apart. Without exclusives, there would be no reason to own multiple consoles.

Ian, the Wii U is perfect for someone like myself who has never owned a PS3 or 360. I have missed out on six years worth of games. Many of the third party titles being released for the Wii U that have already been on rival console will be some of the first that I buy.

Ian nailed everything on the head with why its a good thing that this is happening.
  I'm surprised and happy we're getting a second one. I'll have to bust out the first again before this comes out.  :D

Since when it selling over 1 million copies not doing so well?

My guess is they expected to sell more than 1 million.  Kingdoms of Amalur Reckoning sold over 2 million and that wasn't enough to make it profitable (obviously the game was in a much different situation).  I'm guessing CoD games these days have to sell a whole lot more than a million copies to be profitable.  It's perspective.  Bayonetta was billed as a blockbuster game, so I think Sega was hoping to sell multimillions of copies.

I bet Bayonetta will be in the next Smash Brothers game due to Nintendo publishing the sequel. This would also add credence to more of Platnium Game's characters (Jack from Madworld?) appear as well. It would make a good fit for her to be in the game considering the gameplay style of her games.

Honestly, if we're going to get a Platinum Games character, I'd rather have the main character from Vanquish or even Jack from Madworld. I couldn't care less about Bayonetta.

I don't see Bayonetta showing up in Smash Bros. First, it's probably too late to include her since the roster was probably settled months ago. Second, she's not Sonic who had history and popularity on his side so an exception was made specifically to include him. Her chances of making it in would improve if Nintendo bought the rights to the series which is unlikely.

I like that analogy. +1

I really like the first one. Now, I just need to finish it so I can justify purchasing 2.

This was by far one of the most epic surprise of them all during the Wii U Preview presentation!  I didn't see THAT one coming... Nintendo publishing Bayonetta 2 only for the U.  I'm buying it when it's available!!!!

I don't have a Twitter, but apparently a lot of people's butts are hurt that this game is Wii U exclusive, some issuing death threats to Hideki Kamiya via Twitter (I know, I know, but still...) which is ironic considering he's not announced to be working on the game. Wasn't Bayonetta 2 rumored to be in danger of getting cancelled a few months ago? With Nintendo publishing the game, there's a possibility that they even saved the project. If true, these idiots should be thanking Nintendo because Sega may have rung the death knell for the game.

On top of that, I find it ridiculous that they're even complaining. If you love Bayonetta so much, get a Wii U. If it's not that important, don't. What will you play instead? Oh, I don't know... maybe the 99% of other 3rd party titles coming out on PS3/360, compared to the what, 30%-40% coming to Wii U. You'll live.

I promised myself I would moderate my forum use since it was getting out of hand and I wasn't being productive in other aspects of my life so I only really want to take part in discussions from now on (no debates or arguments) and this latest Nintendo Direct was a good time to rejoin NWR for a bit, but when I read this news story on Kotaku, it kind of blew my mind. Rant over.

I remember when RE4 was promised as a Gamecube exclusive, but then before it was even out Crapcom announced it was also coming to the PS2. Hopefully Bayonetta 2 won't be like that. Hopefully it will be a Wii U exclusive permanently.

Since Nintendo is publishing the game, no chance of it going multiplatform.

This video is foul yet hilarious:

http://youtu.be/Llk5Pq6aNUI

That is amazing!!!!!!!!!

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/luigidude/1340826256938.png

LOL +1

Are those real comments people posted? It wouldn't surprise me...

Nintendo shouldn't just stop with Bayonetta 2 being exclusive. They should do this with a bunch of other games core gamers love, to either get them on board or to piss them off and make them post more comments such as these.

Hahahahahahahahaha that was awesome.

I didn't realise the original Bayonetta was so popular. I had it down as a reasonably well-liked game with a cult following, but the outcries of the internet suggest otherwise.

For me personally, of the two Platinum Games exclusives coming to Wii U, I'm far more intrigued by The Wonderful 101 (as it is now known.)

Wow, I didn't know anyone besides Rimmer was emotionally invested in Bayonetta

Kotaku has an article about Bayonetta's chances of showing up in Smash Bros. I suppose It's certainly possible that Sega was ready to cancel the game and Atsushi Inaba and Hideki Kamiya asked Nintendo to save the game in exchange for exclusivity. The timing is interesting here. Sakurai probably officially started Smash Bros. on 3DS and Wii U in March/April. Sega was rumored to cancel Bayonetta in late April/early May. Then, 10 or so days later Sakurai is caught lurking around Platinum Games. Iwata could have specifically asked Sakurai to include Bayontta for more exposure in a Marth/Roy-esque scenario and since the games are still so early, he obliged and visited Platinum Games to get a feel for the series and character straight from the creators.

I take it back. Bayonetta might have a chance of showing up in the next Smash Bros. games. Maybe Nintendo was even able to swing co-ownership of the IP. Seems like they held all the cards here.

I don't think people were this crazy when Soul Calibur 3 was announced only for PS2.

Only two third party characters have been in Smash Bros. games, and both were iconic (Snake and Sonic). Bayonetta has been in one game so far, I would rather them include a more iconic character.

I would to, but that's not the point. If Nintendo is trying to make Bayonetta a bigger name, market an exclusive they're publishing, and have people associate her with Wii U, there's no better way to introduce her to Nintendo fans who may not have played the 1st game than to have her show up in Smash Bros. Bayonetta can only help Nintendo's image issues. /DatAss

Not if the game flops because Nintendo STILL hasn't figured out how to market these kind of games. They have a long history of failure on that.

For the sounds of things from the interview it sounded like Sega did in fact drop Bayonetta and so PG went looking for a new publisher and since Nintendo was already publishing Wonderful Life they already had a working relationship with them.

Just glad to be getting Bayonetta 2 :0.

And if Nintendo's in the mood for financing a few more "canned" projects maybe they should talk with Ubisoft about Beyond Good and Evil 2--hey, I can DREAM can't I?

I had no idea there would be such a butthurt reaction to this game being a Wii U exclusive.  Well, good, because nerds are very good at bitching a blue streak and then buying the product anyway.  Bayonetta 2 might sell systems better than we thought.

Though it also shows how unpopular Nintendo is with core gamers.  If this was for the PS4 or Xbox 720 no one would whine about buying a new system.  But buying a Nintendo system for this game?  How terrible!  The ones who were bitching were never considering buying a Wii U.  They should be excited but instead they're pissed off.

Maybe they can save Shunmue 3...?

Didn't Sega say they were sticking to only the big franchises like Sonic?  How about Nintendo just grab up a whole bunch of Sega's unused IP in the same sort of deal they have here?  Sega's woes are because they're Sega, not because their IP has no value.  With Nintendo calling the shots they could do justice to that IP.  If Nintendo can make some long dead IP like Punch-Out or Kid Icarus relevant again, why couldn't they do the same with non-Nintendo IP?  See if you can resurrect Mega Man as well while you're at it since Capcom has seemingly allowed their most famous franchise to die out.

Sega said they would be happy to do Shenumue III for whichever console manufacturer was willing to pay for the development.

This is what I came in here to say. If these people are legitimately this upset over a videogame and not just exaggerating for effect, that's pretty ridiculous. Even if they are exaggerating, they're still overreacting.

Two games, and if she were in SSB that would make three.

But regardless of that, I'd just like to see it happen because of how it would troll the anti-Nintendo fanboy haters. Getting Bayonetta 2 as an exclusive was a good move on the part of Nintendo, but they need to follow that up by doing that with other franchises. If Nintendo made enough core games exclusive to their hardware then the haters would be stuck with no choice other than to GET N OR GET OUT.

What is the 2nd game? The sequel isn't out yet, so that doesn't count.

I never played the first game and had no interest in it, but high profile third-party exclusives will only help Wii U.

It will be by the time SSB comes out.

Chozo is right. Bayonetta is also in Platinum Games' Anarchy Reigns which is out in Japan and coming out in the US and Europe next year. It looks pretty fun so hopefully Nintendo was able to swing a Wii U port. I'm not holding my breath though.

EDIT: Here's Bayonetta's character trailer:
http://youtu.be/90AQ8eLZs4k

Do I smell another Wii U exclusive?

Nintendo should buy Sega and then everything they make will be Wii U exclusives. The Anti-Nintendo fanboys would commit mass suicide if that happened.

You want to really piss off anti-Nintendo fanboys? Have Nintendo buy Electronic Arts (no more Mass Effect, Madden, Burnout, Need for Speed, FIFA Soccer) or Activision Blizzard (no more Call of Duty, Tony Hawk) or Take-Two Interactive (no more NBA 2K, Grand Theft Auto, L.A. Noire, Red Dead Redemption, BioShock).

Why? The only franchise Sega has left that's worth a damn anymore to core gamers is Valkyria Chronicles, and they've given up on that for NA.  All their other franchises have been either dormant for way too long (Skies of Arcadia) or are irrelevant now (pretty much everything else from the Dreamcast era and beyond).

Honestly, I'd care a great deal more if Nintendo bought Bioshock exclusivity from Take Two.  As for EA, they no longer make games I'm interested in, ever since ME3 massively disappointed and Dead Space 3 became CoD in space.

Yep, Nintendo is very good at handling their decades old franchises. I think action filled uncharted style Ice Climbers is long overdue  ;)

And, yes, Nintendo SHOULD buy out dead IPs from studios who no longer care about them. Mega Man, Bomberman, Pac-Man can only survive under them.

I don't really see the feasibility of these IPs unfortunately.

These kind of monumental buyouts are not really Nintendo style.
Also they would severely damage companies' value by making them exclusives, and thus -- lessen their own value. You're basically throw money out of the window with that kind of deal.
Activision is making the bank on xbox with cod. Skylanders (probably even bigger franchise today than CoD) is mostly Wii but even then not fully.
Blizzard is PC only company. It's worthless for Nintendo.

I'd rather have Nintendo just buying IPs, like that rumour about N trying to get Rare's IPs (Banjo, Conker and the like) from Microsoft? Yeah, more of that.

I wasn't arguing for or against Nintendo buying them, just saying that Nintendo buying one of them would set off a shit storm online among the anti-Nintendo fanboys.

Kingdom Hearts 3 exclusive to Wii U.  I'd love to see the internets talk about that.

Nintendo (or any other company) wouldn't buy EA to make Madden exclusive because if they tried it, the NFL would be on them like white on rice and they'd lose the exclusivity.

EA's rumored to be up for sale, but no platform holder is rumored to be buying them for that reason.

Rice's natural color is actually brown.

Wild rice can also be green, actually.