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E3 2009 Gathers Over 150 Participants

by Pedro Hernandez - April 28, 2009, 10:20 pm EDT
Total comments: 43 Source: Gamasutra

For its part, Nintendo is promising their "full support."

Last year's Electronic Entertainment Expo (E3) looks like it will be the last year to experiment with a small format. Right after the 2008 show ended officials decided to go back to the previous and more grand E3 style, last experienced in 2006. With this change E3 2009 has gained a lot of support from gaming companies. The Entertainment Software Association (ESA), the organization that runs E3, has confirmed that over 150 companies have purchased space in the convention this year. According to officials the support has been overwhelming and they expect a "packed house" as well as long lines once E3 starts on June 2.

Nintendo has pledged full support for this year's E3, with Nintendo of America Reggie Fils-Aime stating that "E3 brings a wide variety of key audiences into contact with products from many companies, including Nintendo. It's the place where creativity is on display, and as a 'sneak peak' for our entire industry it helps generate excitement for gamers around the world."

Reggie has mentioned on multiple occasionsthat Nintendo will deliver a much stronger presence at this year's E3. The company's 2008 presentation was met with a lot of criticism and disappointment, and even forced Nintendo to apologize.

Talkback

BeautifulShyApril 29, 2009

I heard there is going to be booth babes at this E3.Any truth to that Pap?

NWR_pap64Pedro Hernandez, Contributing WriterApril 29, 2009

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I heard there is going to be booth babes at this E3.Any truth to that Pap?

That is correct.

I think the reception of E3 2008 was so bad that it forced the officials to go into alert mode and decided to bring back everything.

I mean I would be lying if I said that no one complained about the lack of booth babes.

GoldenPhoenixApril 29, 2009

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Quote from: Maxi

I heard there is going to be booth babes at this E3.Any truth to that Pap?

That is correct.

I think the reception of E3 2008 was so bad that it forced the officials to go into alert mode and decided to bring back everything.

I mean I would be lying if I said that no one complained about the lack of booth babes.

That is tragic news.

NWR_pap64Pedro Hernandez, Contributing WriterApril 29, 2009

I think this was caused by both the lack of enthusiasm from the big tree and the media's desire to see a show. Since the companies didn't deliver they all threw a fit, and when the companies saw the fit they threatened to leave for good.

This is why I am approaching E3 with a big grain of salt. It seems that this year in an attempt to gain back the favor of the media they want to throw a big, amazing show. This could blow up in their faces in the same way that E3 2008 blew up in their faces last year.

BeautifulShyApril 29, 2009

Pap are you going this year? If not who is?

NWR_pap64Pedro Hernandez, Contributing WriterApril 29, 2009

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Pap are you going this year? If not who is?

I can't this year. I have school in June and my funds are limited. The rest of the staff is likely to go, though.

Mop it upApril 29, 2009

This E3 had better be "M3" and show off no less than three Mario games, otherwise Nintendo doesn't love me and I'm throwing the Wii in the trash.

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Quote from: Maxi

I heard there is going to be booth babes at this E3.Any truth to that Pap?

That is correct.

I think the reception of E3 2008 was so bad that it forced the officials to go into alert mode and decided to bring back everything.

I mean I would be lying if I said that no one complained about the lack of booth babes.

That is tragic news.

Agreed. We need booth Birdos.

BeautifulShyApril 29, 2009

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Pap are you going this year? If not who is?

I can't this year. I have school in June and my funds are limited. The rest of the staff is likely to go, though.

Ok Pap.

Any other staff want to let me know if they are going?

KDR_11kApril 29, 2009

Let's hope there'll be more DYNAMIC SLASH at E3.

AVApril 29, 2009

E3 is exciting for me again. THe only problem is June 2nd, I wish it was sooner

Ian SaneApril 29, 2009

I remain skeptical of Nintendo.  They have to show me, I don't take their word anymore.  Reggie hyped up last year's E3, too.

Though I'm glad to see E3 try to be a big deal again.  It used to be an event, like Christmas morning for gamers.  Why the organizers ever wanted to mess with that I'll never know.

broodwarsApril 29, 2009

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I remain skeptical of Nintendo.  They have to show me, I don't take their word anymore.  Reggie hyped up last year's E3, too.

Though I'm glad to see E3 try to be a big deal again.  It used to be an event, like Christmas morning for gamers.  Why the organizers ever wanted to mess with that I'll never know.

They messed with it because publishers complained about the booth cost and the press complained about having to cover too much ground in 3 days.  Basically, the industry complained, and the market told them to shut the hell up.  That's how we ended up with the New-E3-same-as-the-old-E3.

NinGurl69 *hugglesApril 29, 2009

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I remain skeptical of Nintendo.  They have to show me, I don't take their word anymore.  Reggie hyped up last year's E3, too.

Though I'm glad to see E3 try to be a big deal again.  It used to be an event, like Christmas morning for gamers.  Why the organizers ever wanted to mess with that I'll never know.

They messed with it because publishers complained about the booth cost and the press complained about having to cover too much ground in 3 days.  Basically, the industry complained, and the market told them to shut the hell up.  That's how we ended up with the New-E3-same-as-the-old-E3.

It was easiest to complain right after Wii kicked everyone's collective ass and stole would-be booth visits at E3 2006.

*crickets*
"You know, this trade show thing isn't work out so well for us."

broodwarsApril 29, 2009

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I remain skeptical of Nintendo.  They have to show me, I don't take their word anymore.  Reggie hyped up last year's E3, too.

Though I'm glad to see E3 try to be a big deal again.  It used to be an event, like Christmas morning for gamers.  Why the organizers ever wanted to mess with that I'll never know.

They messed with it because publishers complained about the booth cost and the press complained about having to cover too much ground in 3 days.  Basically, the industry complained, and the market told them to shut the hell up.  That's how we ended up with the New-E3-same-as-the-old-E3.

It was easiest to complain right after Wii kicked everyone's collective ass and stole would-be booth visits at E3 2006.

*crickets*
"You know, this trade show thing isn't work out so well for us."

For once, we agree on something.  Shall I check to see if Dogs and Cats are living together?

KDR_11kApril 29, 2009

Quote from: Ian

I remain skeptical of Nintendo.  They have to show me, I don't take their word anymore.  Reggie hyped up last year's E3, too.

Though I'm glad to see E3 try to be a big deal again.  It used to be an event, like Christmas morning for gamers.  Why the organizers ever wanted to mess with that I'll never know.

Last E3 was defensive, they acted on the expectation that MS and Sony would make serious advances towards the "casual" gamer and if Nintendo had been caught unprepared then they could have faced defeat.

I don't like this focus on tradeshows though, the internet makes it possible to distribute information easily all year 'round rather than clump it together into a tradeshow.

NWR_pap64Pedro Hernandez, Contributing WriterApril 29, 2009

I don't want to get anyone's hopes up, especially my own. But I honestly believe that this show will be better on the accounts that...
1. Their recent press events have been great at delivering info on new games
2. The whole focus will be on Motion Plus

Motion Plus will be released a month after the event. From a business point of view it makes sense to hype the new unit as much as possible. The best way to do this is by highlighting many games that use it, both existing and to be released soon.

Sega Virtua Tennis, EA Tiger Woods 2010, Grand Slam Tennis, Wii Sports Resorts and Red Steel 2 are likely to get demoed off. But its likely that they will show at least one new game from Nintendo that uses MP extensively. A killer app so to speak. Whether is a casual or core title its up to Nintendo to decide, but I think it might be a core title because casuals already have the MP killer app (Wii Sports Resorts).

DSi will also be a big focus, especially if there are games that use its features greatly. Spirit Tracks is likely to be the star here.

But like I said, I don't want to get anyone's hopes up. Nintendo just loves to surprise people.

Ian SaneApril 29, 2009

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Last E3 was defensive, they acted on the expectation that MS and Sony would make serious advances towards the "casual" gamer and if Nintendo had been caught unprepared then they could have faced defeat.

Realistically Nintendo's E3 didn't suck.  Their lineup for the next nine months or so SUCKED.  Animal Crossing Port, Wii Music and a bunch of a rehashed Cube games.  There was no way they could have possibly polished that turd.

This show will likely be better just because, well, what the fuck has Nintendo been doing for the last year or so?  Almost all the stuff we know about is by Nintendo's smaller teams or has been outsourced to another developer.  Nintendo doesn't pay their developers to sit on their ass so there's something in the works and I imagine whatever it is will be shown at E3.  The presence of SOMETHING as opposed to the glorified NOTHING that last year was would make for a better show by default.

I figure this E3 is do or die for Nintendo in regards to core gamers.  It will demonstrate if Nintendo truly cares about that market or not.  If they care they have something big to show.

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Realistically Nintendo's E3 didn't suck.  Their lineup for the next nine months or so SUCKED.  Animal Crossing Port, Wii Music and a bunch of a rehashed Cube games.  There was no way they could have possibly polished that turd.

This is mostly true, but they still had Wario Land: Shake It in the pipeline and they didn't even mention it in passing in the press conference and it wasn't even playable in their booth, you needed an appointment for that.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorApril 29, 2009

Time until Megaton Press Conference?

TJ SpykeApril 29, 2009

Just a quick comment on the 150 number, that would be more impressive if the majority of the companies were developers and publishers. Looking at the list of E3 vendors shows that most of them are distributors (companies that just ship games and hardware to stores) and companies that make crap like skins and third party controllers.

Nintendo cares about core gamers, but core gamers will bitch no matter what. They shut up briefly after Nintendo's awesome October press event, but they soon starting bitching again about how Nintendo doesn't care about them and all that other nonsense they have been spouting since the Wii launched. They can keep complaining if they want, I will enjoy the many great games the Wii has already and look forward to the ones coming out this year.

StogiApril 29, 2009

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But its likely that they will show at least one new game from Nintendo that uses MP extensively. A killer app so to speak. Whether is a casual or core title its up to Nintendo to decide, but I think it might be a core title because casuals already have the MP killer app (Wii Sports Resorts).

You just got my hopes up. I would love for Nintendo to unveil a new 'M+ exclusive' game.

broodwarsApril 29, 2009

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But its likely that they will show at least one new game from Nintendo that uses MP extensively. A killer app so to speak. Whether is a casual or core title its up to Nintendo to decide, but I think it might be a core title because casuals already have the MP killer app (Wii Sports Resorts).

It'll be Star Fox White Water Rafting Adventure, to continue the trend of crappy Star Fox games that completely negate everything that anyone ever liked in the series.  In the game, the Star Fox team will be on vacation on a sunny mountain retreat, so we'll have our obligatory minigames.  The centerpiece of the game will be the WW Rafting experience, where players use the Wii Motion+ to paddle their canoes down a river...only nothing they do will actually matter because the raft is being pulled along by an Arwing via a tether.  Other events will include a hiking adventure where everyone runs around the woods on foot, and there will also be a mode where you fly around the mountain range in the Arwing trying to save Slippy from a bear, which will be approximately 10 seconds in length and revolve entirely around flying through a single ring.

Oh I kid.  Actually, I do think we'll hear something about Star Fox at E3, if only because it's one of the few semi-worthwhile franchises Nintendo has right now that they haven't done anything with in a while.  Honestly, I'm thinking now would be a good time to see some early footage of Zelda Wii with Wii Motion + action.  It would fit the standard Nintendo Zelda-trickle, where we see bits and pieces of the game about 3-4 years before it actually comes out.  More realistically, I expect we'll see a Pokemon game for Wii that may or may not use Wii Motion +...but once again it wont' be an ACTUAL Pokemon game because that would make too much sense.  Instead, it'll be another Stadium clone.

Oh, and naturally DSi will have a decent showing.  But the biggest reveal of all will be the massive amount of money Nintendo's been making, as shown via mountains of flowcharts and graphs on Powerpoint Presentations.

NinGurl69 *hugglesApril 30, 2009

"But the biggest reveal of all will be the massive amount of money Nintendo's been making, as shown via mountains of flowcharts and graphs on Powerpoint Presentations."

This is what E3 is all about.  Anticipation frothing.

Ian SaneApril 30, 2009

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Nintendo cares about core gamers, but core gamers will bitch no matter what.

This is just a canned response to deflect criticism from Nintendo.  The truth is in everything someone will always complain or have some criticism but that doesn't mean it's the same people every time.  It also doesn't mean that core gamers are impossible to please or that the criticism Nintendo gets is just unwarranted bitching.  If you take the attitude that fans are going to bitch no matter what then you're putting yourself in a fake sense of infallibility.  If Nintendo has that attitude that they're NEVER wrong and they NEVER make mistakes that's very close-minded.  That's the sort of attitude that cost Nintendo to top spot in the first place.  The Gamecube's lack of success can be attributed almost entirely to Nintendo having this "we're never wrong" attitude and completely failing to acknowledge the mistakes they made with the N64.

In anything with a fanbase what a good company knows how to do is recognize legitimate complaints from kneejerk emotional reactions.  "Wind Waker sucks because it's a cartoon" isn't very good criticism.  But "I found Wind Waker dull because the ocean was so empty and lacked enough variety" IS good criticism and can allow Nintendo to improve.  A company is NOTHING without it's customers so to assume that your most loyal customers just bitch for no reason is stupid.  You have to find out what they really want (which may not even be exactly what they say they want) and give it to them.  That's what really successful companies can do.

KDR_11kApril 30, 2009

Yeah but when the complaints are "Nintendo has sold out because they are no longer focussing on hardcore gamers" what are they supposed to do, tell the majority of their userbase "go away, we've got to please some internet whiners"?

NinGurl69 *hugglesApril 30, 2009

Clever wording, KDR, clever!

NWR_pap64Pedro Hernandez, Contributing WriterApril 30, 2009

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Yeah but when the complaints are "Nintendo has sold out because they are no longer focussing on hardcore gamers" what are they supposed to do, tell the majority of their userbase "go away, we've got to please some internet whiners"?

This is my new sig quote.

Smash_BrotherApril 30, 2009

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I think the reception of E3 2008 was so bad that it forced the officials to go into alert mode and decided to bring back everything.

I think the fact that the presentations by all three companies was so lackluster was what really did this.

Scantily-clad women standing outside booths aren't going to suddenly mean that we'll have more good games announced.

NWR_pap64Pedro Hernandez, Contributing WriterApril 30, 2009

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I think the reception of E3 2008 was so bad that it forced the officials to go into alert mode and decided to bring back everything.

I think the fact that the presentations by all three companies was so lackluster was what really did this.

Scantily-clad women standing outside booths aren't going to suddenly mean that we'll have more good games announced.

You would think that, but you would be surprised at how many blogs were complaining about no booth babes being present. It was a dire issue!

Ian SaneApril 30, 2009

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Yeah but when the complaints are "Nintendo has sold out because they are no longer focussing on hardcore gamers" what are they supposed to do, tell the majority of their userbase "go away, we've got to please some internet whiners"?

You're just passing off any complaints as whining.  Nintendo can look at that as whining or they can view it as a part of the Wii userbase that they are not doing a good job to meet the needs of.  Nintendo wants to be an "everyone" company and that means that they need to meet the needs of all gamers.  Not literally every gamer but to have enough variety that any videogame demographic can find a good selection of titles that interest them.  This is what Sony used to be REALLY good at when they were on top.  Nintendo clearly WANTS core gamers to buy their product.  So if that market segment is losing interest due to a perceived indifference from Nintendo in meeting that segment's needs then it would be in Nintendo's best interest to address that.  And it doesn't mean forgetting about non-gamers completely.  Then they've just traded one market for another.  It means working to provide a true console for everyone where BOTH groups are satisfied.

I don't think Nintendo wants to lose core gamers.  I think they might take us for granted or feel that non-gamers are such a big market that they don't NEED us, if they lose that demographic.  But I don't think they specifically want to lose us.

KDR_11kApril 30, 2009

You specifically said you don't like how they're focussing on another audience despite that focus consisting of only a handful of games and some rhetoric. Look at what they're actually releasing. Excite Bots and Punch Out vs Wii Sports Resort? That's not even equal amounts of core and new audience, that's just plain weighted towards the fans. Their core games outnumber the new market games 2:1.

UrkelApril 30, 2009

Iwata, from today's Wii-no-ma announcement.

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From that viewpoint, we at Nintendo have to reflect on domestic Wii software deployment in the former half of this year. Like what had been to be released in the former half of this year was postponed to the latter, we were not able to reach the original goal – to regularly make new proposals.

As for our deployment during the latter half of this year, I would like to announce on the other day as it is not today’s main topic. I would like to address that Nintendo recognize that we have been short of new proposals during the former half of this year, so far.

Iwata says right here that their games were delayed to the second half of the year. What comes out in the middle of the year?

MotionPlus.

Their games were delayed to incorporate MotionPlus. Like Malstrom has been saying since, forever.

I swear, half of this "Nintendo hates me they only make games for grandmas" talk would go away if people would actually listen to Malstrom and understood why Nintendo does what they do.

Ian SaneApril 30, 2009

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You specifically said you don't like how they're focussing on another audience despite that focus consisting of only a handful of games and some rhetoric. Look at what they're actually releasing. Excite Bots and Punch Out vs Wii Sports Resort? That's not even equal amounts of core and new audience, that's just plain weighted towards the fans. Their core games outnumber the new market games 2:1.

I see the focus towards non-gamers as more lopsided.  You see two core games vs. one non-game.  I see two games handed off to North American third party developers vs. a product handled by EAD, Nintendo's TOP first party development team.  To me that suggests a considerably stronger focus on non-gamers as Nintendo has their top guys working on non-games while the core games are outsourced to teams that can be described as compitent but not particularly exceptional.  I don't buy Nintendo consoles to play Next Level or Monster games.  I buy a Nintendo console to play NINTENDO games.

It's not just this-many-games vs. that-many-games.  It's about what the real priority is.  Initially the Wii core games were all sequels.  Now they're outsourced to other devs.  I think we should get NEW IP core games from Nintendo's top inhouse teams.  I think that is a reasonable request and is not just needless bitching.  If Nintendo was busting out the same quantity and quality of stuff as before with the odd non-game thrown in then those complaints could be seen as bitching.  But the last time we got a core game from Nintendo themselves?  Mario Kart Wii almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO.  Everything else since then has been outsourced or a non-game or literally a port of a Cube game.  So you're going to have a really hard time convincing me that this is the same type of Nintendo output as before with the odd non-game thrown in.

This E3 will be the real indicator.  Will we see new IP core games from EAD, Retro or IS?  Hoping for new IPs is probably wishful thinking so let's see if we get at least one core game from each or at least one new IP core game from at least one of them.  Will there be an "it game" that every Wii owning core gamer is going to be talking about for the rest of the year?

Luigi DudeApril 30, 2009

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Their core games outnumber the new market games 2:1.

Actually it's more like 5:1, which makes the argument that Nintendo has abandoned core gamers even more ridiculous then it already it.  The amount of games that have been released and the ones we know are about to be released by Nintendo since the Wii's launch is around 40 by now.  And out of those 40, only 6 can really be considered aimed at the new market.

Not to mention out of these 6 games, 5 of them were made by the same studio, EAD 2.  Which really makes people's complaints about Nintendo abandoning their core games completely pathetic when only 1 out of the over 20 different development studio's they have right now is responsible for the majority of their new casual market games. 

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I see two games handed off to North American third party developers vs. a product handled by EAD, Nintendo's TOP first party development team.

Ian, there's five, I repeat FIVE different EAD studio's.  Wii Sports Resort is being done by EAD 2, the same studio that did Wii Sports, Wii Play, Wii Fit and Wii Music.  EAD1 released Mario Kart Wii last year so they aren't going to have anything new for awhile.  EAD 3 is the largest of the EAD teams and is responsible for the Zelda series and the majority of it is working on the new Zelda for the Wii.  No one knows what EAD 4 is doing, but the last game they released was Band Bros Deluxe for the DS last summer.  Finally we have Tokyo EAD who's last game was Mario Galaxy and before that Donky Kong: Jungle Beat.  I think we all know what Tokyo EAD is probably working on.

So once again, only one small part of Nintendo is responsible for the non games, when the rest is making nothing but core games.

TJ SpykeApril 30, 2009

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You specifically said you don't like how they're focussing on another audience despite that focus consisting of only a handful of games and some rhetoric. Look at what they're actually releasing. Excite Bots and Punch Out vs Wii Sports Resort? That's not even equal amounts of core and new audience, that's just plain weighted towards the fans. Their core games outnumber the new market games 2:1.

I see the focus towards non-gamers as more lopsided.  You see two core games vs. one non-game.  I see two games handed off to North American third party developers vs. a product handled by EAD, Nintendo's TOP first party development team.  To me that suggests a considerably stronger focus on non-gamers as Nintendo has their top guys working on non-games while the core games are outsourced to teams that can be described as compitent but not particularly exceptional.  I don't buy Nintendo consoles to play Next Level or Monster games.  I buy a Nintendo console to play NINTENDO games.

It's not just this-many-games vs. that-many-games.  It's about what the real priority is.  Initially the Wii core games were all sequels.  Now they're outsourced to other devs.  I think we should get NEW IP core games from Nintendo's top inhouse teams.  I think that is a reasonable request and is not just needless bitching.  If Nintendo was busting out the same quantity and quality of stuff as before with the odd non-game thrown in then those complaints could be seen as bitching.  But the last time we got a core game from Nintendo themselves?  Mario Kart Wii almost exactly ONE YEAR AGO.  Everything else since then has been outsourced or a non-game or literally a port of a Cube game.  So you're going to have a really hard time convincing me that this is the same type of Nintendo output as before with the odd non-game thrown in.

This E3 will be the real indicator.  Will we see new IP core games from EAD, Retro or IS?  Hoping for new IPs is probably wishful thinking so let's see if we get at least one core game from each or at least one new IP core game from at least one of them.  Will there be an "it game" that every Wii owning core gamer is going to be talking about for the rest of the year?

Nintendo letting outside developers work on games for them is a good thing, and it helps them release more games. As for playing Nintendo games on Nintendo consoles, do you have problems with the Kirby series? HAL Laboratory is technically a third party studio (Nintendo doesn't own them), and they make most of the Kirby games and made Super Smash Bros. Melee.

I think all this core game vs. casual game thing is nonsense. I have had just as much fun with Animal Crossing: City Folk as I have had with most "core" games.

Hell, even if you don't like Nintendo's recent offerings (which I can't imagine why you wouldn't like it), 2009 alone has had a ton of great third party Wii games so far.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorApril 30, 2009

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NWR_pap64Pedro Hernandez, Contributing WriterApril 30, 2009

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Hilarious!

The only reason gamers are making a big deal over the casual games even if there are few of them is because they sell millions, have long lasting appeal and have better acceptance than some core games. They see Wii Fit outselling Zelda and they panic, even though they fail to realize that exercise has more mainstream appeal than a fantasy adventure and its easier to get into.

PeachylalaApril 30, 2009

Unclebob's comic is win.

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Nintendo letting outside developers work on games for them is a good thing, and it helps them release more games. As for playing Nintendo games on Nintendo consoles, do you have problems with the Kirby series? HAL Laboratory is technically a third party studio (Nintendo doesn't own them), and they make most of the Kirby games and made Super Smash Bros. Melee.

No, HAL Labs is a 2nd party. They were third before they started making Kirby games. Nintendo does own part of them. Unless they suddenly became third party, which hasn't even been announced.

And isn't EAD 4 the same team that is behind the Metroid games and Wario Ware? I remember reading somewhere they were originally R&D1.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorApril 30, 2009

For those who don't remember/haven't been around long enough... I made that comic back in 2005. ;)

GoldenPhoenixApril 30, 2009

I think this E3 will be big for Nintendo. Then again I think it will be big for most companies because most have been holding out on games that are coming out this holiday season.

NWR_pap64Pedro Hernandez, Contributing WriterApril 30, 2009

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For those who don't remember/haven't been around long enough... I made that comic back in 2005. ;)

And yet its timeless... :)

I too hope that E3 is big for all companies. With E3 being a show once more it likely creates the need to try and outdo each other, so they might do big reveals and show important software.

Luigi DudeApril 30, 2009

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And isn't EAD 4 the same team that is behind the Metroid games and Wario Ware? I remember reading somewhere they were originally R&D1.

That would be SPD1 who used to be R&D1 and has done the Wario Ware as well as 2d Metroid titles and recent Rhythm Tengoku/Rhythm Heaven.

EAD 4 is the people who did all the Mario Advanced ports on the GBA and then went on to do Mario 64 DS and New Super Mario Bros.  They're also responsible for both of the Big Brain Academy games as well as both of the Band Bros for the DS.

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