Tartakovsky's Clone Wars > any Lucas Clone thing Wars Stars

A little birdie told me that this may be a Smash Bros. clone.

Hmmmmm thats kinda cool. I want a DS smash bros that has nothing to do with Naruto.

That could be really great.  Especially if Yoda's final smash involves smashing spaceships into the ground.

If they make it good (big if) a Star Wars Smash Bros. clone (ha ha, Smash Bros. Clone Wars) could be really good on the DS, but unless the Wii version included lag-free online play I don't see me getting it.

Agreed.  It makes me far more hopeful of this game.  It won't be stuck in the movie's plot and every character becomes 100% more awesome then in the new movies.

Yoda, The emporer, The Fett, and Vader better be the top tier. Maybe Mace. No items, Ban the Hoth level from tournament play.

YES YES and YES!!!

I'm not sure that's a good thing, Smash Bros can do a lot of stuff because it's not entirely serious. Star Wars is usually very serious (IOW I don't expect Ewoks to be usable as melee weapons).

You say that like you haven't seen Clone Wars.  It's full of insanely over the top action.

So it's Clone Wars... does that mean no Boba Fett, no Emperor, no Chewbacca, no... Vader?

Seems like most of the really cool characters in the series don't show up until at least Revenge of the Sith, which takes place after this.

Hell, I'd love to be an Ewok... :P

Chewbacca could show up.  Boba Fett's a kid and Jango's dead, but an ARC trooper might fill the void (They're clone commandos that lack the conditioning and limitations that make most of the clone troopers controllable; basically one-man armies).  There's no reason the Emperor couldn't be playable, he'd just lack that title.  This setting also gets us the Clone Wars version of General Grievous, which is much better than the movie version, and the Clone Wars version of Count Dooku, who can beat the Clone Wars version of Grievous without breaking a sweat.

Of course, it's just a game, so I wouldn't have any more problem with characters who shouldn't be alive at the time being playable than I do with the characters in Smash Bros.

this looks nothing like a Brawl clone

Trailer

looks more like a standard fighter, with lightsabers.

Grievous needs more lightsabers. More I say!

I heard that Grevious was originally intentioned to be Darth Maul's brain in a robotic body.

Wow, how very un-Lucas to say "No, that's not a good idea, we can do better.". I'd have taken Grievous with Maul's brain if it had meant that he rethought Jar Jar.

Grievous with Maul's brain would make more sense, how a mere mortal manages to kill that many Jedi and effectively use their lightsabers is beyond me.

1. Jedi get killed all the time. They're very much mortal, especially the ones who aren't awesome
2. Grievous was trained by Count Dooku.
3. Grievous has FOUR ARMS!!! That means 4 LIGHTSABERS!

I think the in-universe explanation is that the art of lightsaber-on-lightsaber combat has been effectively lost over the hundreds (thousands?) of years since the Sith were last a credible threat, so hardly any Jedi know how to fight someone else with a lightsaber.  Dooku was the last great master of such combat, and he trained Grievous.  That and having four arms made Grievous more than a match for all but the most powerful Jedi, who could call on the Force to help even the odds.  Obi-wan's highly defensive technique was theoretically the best counter possible.

Nerd out.

Wait, if the lightsaber combat skills had been lost, how are Yoda, Mace, Anakin, Obi-Wan, and Qui-Gon able to kick butt?

Not to mention Luke whose only lightsaber training was how to block blaster shots and yet still managed to be a match for Vader.

Exactly, it was explained that the Jedi didn't need raining to use a Lightsaber, they had the force which they could use to "sense" their enemies reactions. With Grievous they could not because they can't sense droids and his "human" side was long lost to his techno side so it is likely that he didn't "exist" as far as the force is concerned. Anyways that was how it was explained in one of the books I read. Not Grievous himself but about the Jedi. Plus he had 4 arms, and Yoda was a master, but Obi and Ani both had trouble with Dooku so he must have been out of their league so if he trained Grievous he would have an advantage over the lesser Jedi.

Who decided that the prequel universe was so darn interesting that it deserved this much exploration?  Could it be the same guy that thought it was a good idea to make the entire prequel story arc hinge on a dispute over the over-taxation of specific trade routes?

Taxes have HUGE effects. Just look at the Revolutionary War...

Wouldn't that make Grievous subject to force powers though? I mean, any force user could just pick him up and slam him in a wall or over a cliff... Also without the force those things won't work as blaster defenses so shouldn't it be possible to finish him with a simple blaster?

Then again that's the prequels we're talking about here...

Since you used Qui-Gon as an example, I assume you misunderstood me.  They no longer bothered to train to fight other people who also had lightsabers because it was assumed that everyone with a lightsaber would be on the same side.  Qui-Gon was killed by Darth Maul pretty easily once the fight was one on one.  Obi-wan only killed Darth Maul because the latter dropped his guard.  Obi-Wan started developing his defensive style because of that battle, and he taught it to Anakin and Luke.  Yoda spent over 800 years developing his skills with the Force and a lightsaber.  Mace took two other Jedi Masters with him to face Palpatine, and they were cut down in seconds.

Both of those things happened.  Mace Windu crushed his torso at the end of the cartoon series, giving him that wheezing cough, and Obi-Wan was finally forced to kill him with a blaster.

"Who decided that the prequel universe was so darn interesting that it deserved this much exploration?"

YEAH, WHAT THE HELL

I think the Clone Wars is the most interesting part of the prequel universe, which is why it sucked that the movies devoted so little energy to them.  There's a lot of moving parts in that conflict, may of which are behind the scenes.

I'd say the only real interesting parts are behind the scenes because I find the battles a lot less interesting due to the fact that it's not a real war, it's just a show put on by Palpatine, it doesn't mean anything.

These two games focus on that element of the Clone Wars.  I wrote a preview for the DS game too; it should be out by tomorrow.  It's about another facet of the back-end war.

Very true, but Lucas could have found something more interesting for the Trade Federation to fight over.  I mean, this is swords 'n sorcery space opera.  Maybe they could have been trying to strip mine Naboo for a seemingly harmless mineral that turned out to have force-nullifying properties, so they could impose their will on the Republic without having to fear the Jedi.  Or something.  I dunno!

What's more interesting than money?

Besides, they nullify the force with ysalamiri much later on in the books.

They couldn't fully pacify a security detail and some frog people who throw glowing spheres.  I don't think they'd have much of a shot at galactic conquest.

I think you'll find that no one knows exactly how "glowing sphere" technology specifically works, it remains a mystery even in the New Republic.

Whatever floats your boat, I suppose.  Some folks might think that trade overregulation is interesting, but I guess I expected something a bit more swashbuckling from Star Wars.

They kidnapped the princess and will murder her in an attempt to frame Gilder and incite a war?

Thinking about it, the "robots don't show up for the force" thing doesn't make sense since Luke Skywalker trains his force sense with a training droid.

And if robots didn't show up in the force, then the jedi would've gotten slaughtered by the trade federation.

Just face it, Grievous is a little bad-ass.

Grevious is Maul.... Maul is Grevious

Einhorn is Finkle, Finkle is Einhorn!

Droids just don't show up in the Force in the same way living things do.  That doesn't mean a Jedi can't sense danger when a droid attacks him.  That danger sense doesn't come from reading the intentions of living things, although that can help.

I'm not sure where the idea that the Force can't be directly used on living people came from.  Vader demonstrates that it can in the original movie.

That tax thing was just part of the smoke and mirrors covering Palpatine's plot.  He engineered the whole Naboo conflict to get Chancellor Valorum kicked out of office and himself appointed Chancellor.

Yeah, behind the taxes were the vile machinations of a SITH LORD! MUAHAHAHAHAHA!!!