Gimme Talim, please!

I read else where this might not be a fighting game, but an action adventure game. We'll see what happens, I do prefer a fighting game, but the more support the better.

And besides we will most likely get the next fighting instalment any way if this isnt it. The Wii's sales are to big to pass up.

You are correct, this is an action/adventure game...

Because adventure games based on fighting game franchises have such a glorious history.

Could be good though having it not be a fighting game gives me the fear that this is the patented Wii-specific spinoff while the "real" Soul Calibur games go on the PS3 and/or Xbox 360. I would be more confident of the Wii's third party support if the main series of franchises were getting annouced as exclusives. That's why Dragon Quest IX was such a big deal on the DS. It wasn't Dragon Quest Swords or Monsters or whatever it was the main Dragon Quest series.

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I hope Mega Man is an unlockable character.

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I'm staying positive, the art direction of the soul series has always been underappreciated.
And Midway's failures shouldn't affect my enthusiasm...though it still does.

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I hope Mega Man is an unlockable character.

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What the heck. Mega Man is Capcom...not Namco. Is this a wierd joke about people wanting 3rd party characters in Brawl.

But, you know...it would kick major butt if Link was a hidden character in this game. Adventure is Link's middle name.

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I liked the "adventure mode" in Soul Callibur 2 (or whatever it was called). Maybe it'll similar to that? Time will tell.

I think it's fitting. For a main series Soul Calibur title you couldn't implement Wii controls because then the fans would scream bloody murder, in a spinoff you can have direct blade control without anyone claiming you destroyed the core gameplay of SC (and you have to stay reasonably far away from the main gameplay to avoid comparisons). With all the extra "adventure" modes they've been putting in SC2 (and presumably 3) it feels like they wanted to make an adventure beforehand but the game engine of SC was too limited to tell a proper story. I don't know if they'll make anything good out of it but I don't think it's doomed yet.

If you want Megaman and Soul Calibur in one game play Namco X Capcom.

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I think it's fitting. For a main series Soul Calibur title you couldn't implement Wii controls because then the fans would scream bloody murder, in a spinoff you can have direct blade control without anyone claiming you destroyed the core gameplay of SC (and you have to stay reasonably far away from the main gameplay to avoid comparisons). With all the extra "adventure" modes they've been putting in SC2 (and presumably 3) it feels like they wanted to make an adventure beforehand but the game engine of SC was too limited to tell a proper story. I don't know if they'll make anything good out of it but I don't think it's doomed yet.

If you want Megaman and Soul Calibur in one game play Namco X Capcom.

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Maybe Namco doesn't feel like going down the same road? I haven't heard about GG's motion control but neither DBZ nor MK is a franchise where people care much about the gameplay.

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Why the f*ck can't companies just put games on the Wii, instead of sh!tty spinoff games that nobody wants to play?

let the bodies hit the floor let the bodies hit the floor

Let's put it this way: It can't be any worse than Death by Degrees....

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Hmmm.... I guess I'd hit it.

Sorta OT, but I actually got to play SC .. 3? on a friend's PS2 waaay long ago... Create-A-Fighter was coooool.... any chance I could get that fature on a Wii game?

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

MK is supposed to have a create a character right?

Anyways I'd much prefer a real SC game, heck I wouldn't mind SC3 ported over (ps2 broke ages ago )

Some already mentioned it, but I'm getting a lot of "Death By Nine Degrees" flashbacks right now.
In some ways this a perfect example of the problem Nintendo is facing.

Almost any tradional hardcore game done on the Wii can be done on the PS3 or 360 so we get the experimential "spin-off".

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Some already mentioned it, but I'm getting a lot of "Death By Nine Degrees" flashbacks right now.
In some ways this a perfect example of the problem Nintendo is facing.

Almost any tradional hardcore game done on the Wii can be done on the PS3 or 360 so we get the experimential "spin-off".

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After the abomination that was Soul Calibur 3, I would rather them make a game like this, maybe they'd do better with something like this than another fighter where you can glitch the game by cancelling a throw animation while the person being thrown is still in it. I guess the only minor issue that may come up is if they decide to chibi everything.

As Soul Calibur 3 was terrible, that is not enough to alleviate my concerns.

Hopefully they have seen their mistakes and are returning back to the awesome formula that is SC2... =3

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I second the use of more Talim, the will instantly make the game more approachable.

In other, this time non-biased, news I would like to envision this game as Soul Calibur meets Smash Bros' adventure mode, except Soul Caliburized. I have some hope in it...for now.

(Again, Banco, more Talim = more interest, at least from me)

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Yeah because that was a great 3rd-person adventure game and I'm really glad they're doing another one!




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I'm still burned that SC2 sold so well on the GameCube, then SC3 was a PS3 exclusive. You have to earn my love back, Soul Caliber team... This game better be damn good.

Namco loev money hats

"Thinking this game might not be good because it's a 'spinoff' is pretty baseless, particularly considering it's the actual Soul Calibur team working on it..."

It has nothing to do with the quality but rather the focus of the third party. If the Wii isn't getting the "real" games of a series then it isn't getting real third party support. Nintendo has done themselves no favours if they only get spinoffs while the PS3 and Xbox 360 get the real games. It is good that the Soul Calibur team is working on this though.

Soul Calibur 2 wasn't much better. It's issues weren't nearly as gamebreaking as 3 though. To be honest, I welcome the change. The Soul Calibur series at home seemed to be leaning more toward the adventure type of game anyhow and all the fighting game aspect of it did was get in the way. Given the nature of the series storylines I thnk this could work out quite well. The only issue I see is PO'ed fans of the fighters which there are probably very few of now due to how SC3 came out.

LAFFO IT'S RED STEEL W/OUT GUNS!

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"Okay Ian. Please read that again and convince me that what you said wasn't stupid."

Eh, I'll admit the wording sounds a little goofy. It is a good thing if the game turns out to be good. I'm just concerned about the trend of third parties annoucing spinoffs of their top franchises for the Wii instead of the main series. That's my main concern. That's what "It" is referring to.

"Soul Calibur 2 wasn't much better."

I think most people who loved Soul Calibur 2 were unfamiliar with the first game so it was their first experience with the SC gameplay, which is a whole lot of fun. I'm including myself in that group. Soul Calibur was that mythical Dreamcast game that everyone had heard of but hadn't necessarily played due to the generally low sales of the Dreamcast. Soul Calibur 2 had the advantage that because it was on every console everyone finally got a chance to play it.

Apparently, this game will have a Winter 2007 JPN release date. With any luck, that means it's been in development for quite a few months already... Prob early 2008 for USA?

~Carmine "Cai" M. Red
Kairon@aol.com

big mistake. MICROSOFT said that no one can make money off the Wii and that no one would develop games for it. this could tank Namco...or whoever makes this game.

why do people keep bring up tekken and that horrid nina game
what about virtual fighter and VF quest?

personally this seems more like a generic action sword fighting games to me, which are so popular on ps2, with there gimmick attacks thrown in

Is the Wii getting SC4? I'm not trying to bash, but could someone provide a link?

I find it hard to believe that GG is getting motion controls. That game is best described as "chess as light speed". High level play requires per frame accuracy for many combos, at 60fps I really can't see how this would work. Well at least the Wii is getting the Accent Core version of GG.

Edited, I need to proof-read more.

Who said serious players had to use the motion/gesture controls? It's an option so whether it works out or not doesn't matter. The casuals will probably play it that way while the tournament players use the controller. Win win.

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An issue might be the controller.

Soul Calibur only has 4 actions buttons, right? a+b+c+z and the analog stick. Also, a+b+1+2 and the d-pad.

abcz or ab12 are both awkward to use.

What about the classic controller?

Fighting game fans are generally considered to be "hardcore", and thus would have enough sense to purchase the classic controller for a game like Soul Calibur, if they haven't already. And, by the time SC4 would come out Smash Bros. Brawl will almost certainly be out, forcing the classic controller onto millions of Wii owners.

Yeah, I think DBZ used the motion controls but gave the option for the Classic or GameCube controller - they could do that with Soul Calibur.