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Episode 59: Rainy Days

by Andy Goergen, Zachary Miller, Neal Ronaghan, and Mike Sklens - July 2, 2011, 11:00 am PDT
Total comments: 16

Operation Rainfall keeps falling on our heads, but we still got you this episode of NWR Newscast.

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Did you hear the one about the giant corporation who refused to give their customer the product they desired? We did! On this episode of Newscast, Andy, Neal, Zach and special guest Mike Sklens talk about Operation Rainfall, what it means for Nintendo, and what it means for us.  

Also, what's the deal with Resident Evil: Mercenaries?  Is it awesome? Neal has the scoop, and what he has to say might surprise you... unless you already read his review.

Don't forget to email us at newscast@nintendoworldreport.com!

This podcast was edited by Andy Goergen.

Music for this episode of NWR Newscast is used with permission from A Boy Named Earth.

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CericJuly 02, 2011

lol, the beginning sounds like the Lead up to Techno or rap.
You stagger handhelds and consoles to help with these sort of release draughts on either.

Love my Cube.

Mario Clash is a fun game.  I really enjoyed it and most of the other VB games and I got most of them because it was so dirt cheap to do so but, their lost now.  When I got my VB games were $5 each or less and my system was $20. Though it is sort of busted up now.  I would really really love to have the whole Virtual Boy Collection to show up on eShop.  Their are a lot of good games but, that controller is very weird.
Those are all awesome VB Games.  Get

EnnerJuly 02, 2011

Good show.


The PC version of Assassin's Creed II took longer than a day to circumvent. Poking around the internet, looks like it took about 3-4 weeks before a cracked executable and DRM server emulator was developed to allow the game to be fully played offline.


As far as DRM goes, probably the most successful at preventing piracy was Starforce. DRM circumvention existed, but there were so many hoops to jump through to get them working. The success came at a cost many legitimate users unable to play the PC games and difficult to remove DRM software installations.


On the game maker's stance on software piracy and used game sales, a staff person at Lionhead, developer of Fable 3, thinks that Pre-owned sales are worse than piracy.



"Piracy these days on PC is probably less problematic than second-hand sales on the Xbox," declared lead Fable III combat designer Mike West. "I've been working on PC games for many years and piracy is always a problem. There are a lot of honest people out there as well, and if they like your game they'll buy it.

"The pirates, whatever you do on whatever system, they will crack it. It might take no time... I think the longest it's taken to happen is two days. Someone will crack it somewhere and there's not much you can do about it.

"It's just a depressing situation we're in that people don't think it's worth spending money on computer games," said West. "What they're doing is making sure there are fewer games coming out in the future and more people out of work, which is a terrible thing.

"Unless you sit down and meet a pirate face to face and have a conversation about what it does, I don't think anything will stop them."

West said that any sales Lionhead make of Fable III on PC this Friday and beyond will be "a bonus".

"For us it's probably a no-lose even with piracy as it is," shrugged West. "But, as I say, second-hand sales cost us more in the long-run than piracy these days."

CericJuly 02, 2011

Myself, as long as they include lifetime access for the game for my account I don't super care.  Still think its not great but I can honestly see how second hand sales can be a big problem.  I know some that only buy used.

EnnerJuly 02, 2011

I try and usually buy new because I have a weird need to have the box and its contents to have the least human contact as it can. Only my hands can touch the disc! I try to buy cheap as well, so that combined with the previous statement means I wait until sales or discounts. Not much of a problem for me since I don't mind waiting and don't care much for online multiplayer. It probably helps that the I only buy games for PC and Wii. Wii games go on sale or discount eventually and PC games are always new!

I usually buy new because the "newer" games I want that are "used" at CERTAIN used-game stores are a mere $5 cheaper than a new copy.

EnnerJuly 03, 2011

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I usually buy new because the "newer" games I want that are "used" at CERTAIN used-game stores are a mere $5 cheaper than a new copy.

But if you buy 11 games used, you would have saved enough money to buy a 12th used game! Er....

You might save more if you wait 3-12 months for the first discount at brick & mortar stores. That is unless you don't have the luxury of time.

Well, that's what I do.

broodwarsJuly 03, 2011

Generally speaking, if I really want a game I'll pick it up new on or around Day 1.  If it's a game I'm on the fence about or has gotten really mixed reviews, I'll generally wait until the game's dropped $15-$20 and buy it then Used.  If it's a game I really want to show support to the developers (as was the case with Valkyria Chronicles, the first game I ever bought for my PS3), I'll still buy it New but at that point I generally don't care about such things.  By the time I get around to those kind of games, they've either made the developers a lot of money or they haven't.  My purchase won't change things one way or another, and my wallet likes the best price available.

CericJuly 03, 2011

Games that I want I make a point to buy new because I want more of them.  I've even bought games of certain types new because wanted more games of that type even if I don't like that particular one.  I will by games I'm unsure of for my son used.

This is a great episode, but it just seems like it's missing something compared to the last couple. I can't quite put my finger on it.

CericJuly 04, 2011

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This is a great episode, but it just seems like it's missing something compared to the last couple. I can't quite put my finger on it.

Your right it needs someone who regular the forums on it like me.

SundoulosJuly 05, 2011

I wholeheartedly agree that Nintendo's response via facebook and twitter was pretty bad simply because their immediate response provided a semblance of false hope.  It reminded me of some girl I knew in college who used to string along guys by giving them just enough encouragement to hang around, only to completely toss them to the wind later.

I'll agree with Mike that Nintendo's response was better than saying nothing at all, but they should have waited to respond until they had a definite answer. 

I also rarely buy new at all, though I'll never buy used at a Gamestop, unless it's a series that I really want to support.  Sometimes that comes back to haunt me.  I think I've bought all of the Layton games, Dragon Quest games, and others new.  I also made sure to buy A Boy and His Blob new, though I kind of wish that I hadn't; the sales went south quickly anyway, and you can obtain the game for a $10 - $15.  Like many others, I don't buy everything new because I simply can't; I don't have the resources and won't for a long time (two kids, a mortgage, and a single-income home.)

The truth is, a reduction of price in $10 - 20 goes a long way towards encouraging me to purchase a game.  The $50 game price tag has discouraged me from picking up a 3DS right away, and I certainly don't plan on getting many Wii U titles at $60.

At least Reggie isn't still making that ridiculous claim that video games are "recession proof."

I've got to say, all the talk about getting scratches on the 3DS and shoulder buttons not working are giving me serious pause about purchasing a 3DS.  I've been saving up cash for it, but I'm starting to wonder if I wouldn't be better off waiting for another iteration of the system.  I have to say that the complaints have gone a long way towards changing my perceptions of the quality of Nintendo's hardware; for the first time in a long time, I feel negative about a Nintendo system.  (I had problems with my old-school Gameboy pretty early on.)

StrikerObiMike Sklens, Podcast EditorJuly 05, 2011

Back on the new v used comments: I to buy my games new, but I have gotten in the habit of waiting for price drops. I also bring in a good amount of Amazon credit on the side from market research programs I belong to, and it's become my main way of paying for games. I save up some Amazon credit and wait for the first sale/price drop on a game. Then when it happens I cash in my credit and I get a game that's retail $60, on sale for $40, and out the door for $0-$20 after I apply however much Amazon credit I have to it. I don't think I've paid full price for a game in years.


The only games I don't wait for a price drop on are Nintendo games. Not because I need to have them right away, but rather because I know it will be at least a year (probably much longer) until the price does drop, and they almost never go on sale. So for those I just buy them whenever I want them and have the disposable cash (or Amazon credit).

TJ SpykeJuly 05, 2011

Quote from: Sundoulos

I also rarely buy new at all, though I'll never buy used at a Gamestop, unless it's a series that I really want to support.  Sometimes that comes back to haunt me.  I think I've bought all of the Layton games, Dragon Quest games, and others new.  I also made sure to buy A Boy and His Blob new, though I kind of wish that I hadn't; the sales went south quickly anyway, and you can obtain the game for a $10 - $15.  Like many others, I don't buy everything new because I simply can't; I don't have the resources and won't for a long time (two kids, a mortgage, and a single-income home.)

The truth is, a reduction of price in $10 - 20 goes a long way towards encouraging me to purchase a game.  The $50 game price tag has discouraged me from picking up a 3DS right away, and I certainly don't plan on getting many Wii U titles at $60.

3DS games (at least in the US, where your profile says you live) are $40, not $50. I don't think all Wii U games will be $60, I think Nintendo's statements implied that just certain games will be more than $50. GameStop is really good for older used games, though I refuse to pay $45 for a used Wii game or $54 for Xbox 360/PlayStation 3 (the lone exception was when I bought a used copy of Metroid Prime: Trilogy for more than the new price because I knew how rare it was).

SundoulosJuly 06, 2011

Quote from: TJ

Quote from: Sundoulos

I also rarely buy new at all, though I'll never buy used at a Gamestop, unless it's a series that I really want to support.  Sometimes that comes back to haunt me.  I think I've bought all of the Layton games, Dragon Quest games, and others new.  I also made sure to buy A Boy and His Blob new, though I kind of wish that I hadn't; the sales went south quickly anyway, and you can obtain the game for a $10 - $15.  Like many others, I don't buy everything new because I simply can't; I don't have the resources and won't for a long time (two kids, a mortgage, and a single-income home.)

The truth is, a reduction of price in $10 - 20 goes a long way towards encouraging me to purchase a game.  The $50 game price tag has discouraged me from picking up a 3DS right away, and I certainly don't plan on getting many Wii U titles at $60.

3DS games (at least in the US, where your profile says you live) are $40, not $50. I don't think all Wii U games will be $60, I think Nintendo's statements implied that just certain games will be more than $50. GameStop is really good for older used games, though I refuse to pay $45 for a used Wii game or $54 for Xbox 360/PlayStation 3 (the lone exception was when I bought a used copy of Metroid Prime: Trilogy for more than the new price because I knew how rare it was).

Oops...the $50 pricetag for 3DS games was a typo on my part. 

motangJuly 12, 2011

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I usually buy new because the "newer" games I want that are "used" at CERTAIN used-game stores are a mere $5 cheaper than a new copy.

Sounds like Cabbages Etc.

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