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Super Mario Bros. 3DS Game Hinted in Iwata Asks

by Pedro Hernandez - February 1, 2011, 12:31 pm PST
Total comments: 30 Source: (Iwata Asks), http://us.wii.com/iwata_asks/mario25th/vol5_page1....

Miyamoto mentions that he is working on a new Mario game for the system.

The latest Iwata Asks column gathers the original Super Mario Bros. development team: Shigeru Miyamoto, Koji Kondo, Takashi Tezuka, and Toshihiko Nakago to talk about the development of the original Super Mario Bros. game in honor of the series' 25th anniversary. Near the end of the column, Miyamoto mentions that his team is working on a new Super Mario Bros. game for the 3DS as a means of adopting new technology for the Super Mario Bros. tradition.



The comments go as follow:

Miyamoto: Yes. So, in the interests of adopting new technology for the Super Mario Bros. tradition, I am now making a new Super Mario Bros. game for the Nintendo 3DS system.

Iwata: The next stage for the Super Mario Bros. Preservation Society’s activities is the Nintendo 3DS.

Miyamoto: Yes. (laughs) I want to show everyone as soon as possible what the new Super Mario Bros. will be like on the Nintendo 3DS.

Whether the game will play similarly to the recent New Super Mario Bros. side-scrolling games on the DS and Wii or will be a 3D platforming game like Super Mario Galaxy wasn't discussed.

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Talkback

Ryan CannonFebruary 01, 2011

It'll probably be 2D side scrolling, being that they are calling it "New Super Mario Bros."

BlackNMild2k1February 01, 2011

New Super Mario Bros. 3DS


p.s. That is also much more than a hint. I would even go as far as to call it an announcement.
edit: I also wouldn't be surprised if this is the big Holiday 2011 3DS Title

Quote from: Ryan

It'll probably be 2D side scrolling, being that they are calling it "New Super Mario Bros."

Subtle, but he called it "a new Super Mario Bros. game" not "New Super Mario Bros."

Bman87301February 01, 2011

Quote from: MegaByte

Quote from: Ryan

It'll probably be 2D side scrolling, being that they are calling it "New Super Mario Bros."

Subtle, but he called it "a new Super Mario Bros. game" not "New Super Mario Bros."

True, the "new" wasn't capitalized... But keep in mind this is a transcript, so how it was typed out was merely just the transcriber's personal interpretation. There's no way to know for sure what Miyamoto had in mind when he said it based on the quote. Though I personally think the fact that he said "Super Mario Bros." and not just "Super Mario", makes it almost certain that he was implying a 2D side-scroller.

Ian SaneFebruary 01, 2011

I think it's worth noting that they keep saying "Super Mario Bros."  Not "Mario" or "Super Mario" but specifically "Super Mario Bros."  I figure it's tied with NSMB in some way because of that.  No one really calls Mario games by that kind of naming convention anymore.  Nintendo has been all retro crazy the last few years (and like NES-level retro crazy what with their love of NES-style controls in Wii games).  I not only expect this to be more in the NSMB vein but I wouldn't be surprised if this was specifically related to the first Super Mario Bros. game.

I wish Nintendo would get on a SNES fix for a change.  The 16-bit era had many of the same types of games as the 8-bit era but with more refinement.

AVFebruary 01, 2011

i would love to see them use Super Mario 2 as the template. I think subcon is a rich universe that hasn't been tapped

Quote from: Bman87301

But keep in mind this is a transcript, so how it was typed out was merely just the transcriber's personal interpretation. There's no way to know for sure what Miyamoto had in mind when he said it based on the quote.

Does anyone have a link to the Japanese interview? I was looking for NCL's Super Mario 25th site earlier but couldn't find it. (Used to be at http://www.nintendo.co.jp/mario25th/index.html)

AdrockFebruary 01, 2011

Quote from: Mr.

i would love to see them use Super Mario 2 as the template. I think subcon is a rich universe that hasn't been tapped

Super Mario Bros. 2: A Game by Christopher Nolan

Quote from: Deezer

Does anyone have a link to the Japanese interview? I was looking for NCL's Super Mario 25th site earlier but couldn't find it. (Used to be at http://www.nintendo.co.jp/mario25th/index.html)

Sure, it's http://www.nintendo.co.jp/n10/interview/mario25th/vol5/index.html (linked from the Iwata Asks section on the corporate page).

Quote from: Ian

I think it's worth noting that they keep saying "Super Mario Bros."  Not "Mario" or "Super Mario" but specifically "Super Mario Bros."

Quote from: Bman87301

But keep in mind this is a transcript, so how it was typed out was merely just the transcriber's personal interpretation. There's no way to know for sure what Miyamoto had in mind when he said it based on the quote. Though I personally think the fact that he said "Super Mario Bros." and not just "Super Mario", makes it almost certain that he was implying a 2D side-scroller.

In Japanese, he says "new 'Mario'" - "Super" is only mentioned the first time and "Bros." is not part of the text at all, confirming my assertion. These things are tightly controlled by Nintendo, so whatever they meant is what gets posted (in Japanese).

I think the first Mario game on 3DS will feature 3D gameplay, because confining it to a 2D plane really limits what you can do to show off the stereoscopic 3D capabilities of the hardware. Not saying you couldn't still do some cool things that way, but you'd have a lot more options with a 3D world

It would be cool if they took some of the concepts from Super Paper Mario, but made a full-out platformer.

Quote from: MegaByte

It would be cool if they took some of the concepts from Super Paper Mario, but made a full-out platformer.

This is a fantastic idea.

ControlerFleXFebruary 01, 2011

I think the "NEW" tech he wants to adapt would be more in the vein of the motion control and the spot/street pass stuff and dare I say trade user created levels/enemies/Mii's in the game via those methods. I'm feeling side scrooling as well WITH a little of the "Legend of the Seven Stars" 3D action.....edit: dough I don't type fast enough!!

But of course you loose the sweet "3D" spot with all that movin' around and who wants to play Mario with the thing sittin on a desk or table oh and since the 3D is not required.....blah blah blah.........

Mop it upFebruary 01, 2011

Since the 2D side-scrolling Mario games sell much better than 3D Mario games, it seems safe to say if there's a Mario game planned for 3DS, it won't feature 3D gameplay.

Though as was mentioned, it would be nice if they took some of the gameplay mechanics from Super Paper Mario. That game was so plain and didn't use the flip mechanic for anything worthwhile, so I'd like to see it revisited, there is a lot of potential there.

broodwarsFebruary 01, 2011

This really isn't any surprise, consideringly how stupidly well the Wii and DS New Super Mario Bros. games have sold.  Given Nintendo's love of silly game names, I have a feeling it'll be called "NEW New Super Mario Bros." or "New Super Mario Bros. 3D".

Quote from: Mop

Since the 2D side-scrolling Mario games sell much better than 3D Mario games, it seems safe to say if there's a Mario game planned for 3DS, it won't feature 3D gameplay.

Though as was mentioned, it would be nice if they took some of the gameplay mechanics from Super Paper Mario. That game was so plain and didn't use the flip mechanic for anything worthwhile, so I'd like to see it revisited, there is a lot of potential there.

I don't have a link for this at the moment, but Miyamoto has already said they intend to do both 2D and 3D Mario on the 3DS, so there will definitely be 3D Mario; the question is which one will they start with. 3D Mario seems to be more likely to sell well when it doesn't have to compete with a 2D Mario, and like I said, it offers more opportunities to show off the hardware, which is more useful early in the system's life than later on. 3D Mario is also a novel concept on a handheld; there has never been a 3D Mario native to a handheld, and thus such a game would be a fresher concept than yet another New Super Mario Bros. In my opinion, there are more reasons to start with the 3D game and then move on to the 2D one than the other way around.

Mop it upFebruary 01, 2011

What evidence is there that 3D Mario sells worse if it follows a 2D Mario game? Super Mario Galaxy 2 came out after New Super Mario Brothers Wii but it still sold just fine. I also think they'll start with a 2D game because they're typically cheaper and faster to create.

famicomplicatedJames Charlton, Associate Editor (Japan)February 01, 2011

MegaByte is exactly right about the translation, but I'd thought I'd point out one more thing:
In Japan New Super Mario Bros is called exactly that..New Super Mario Bros (just say it with Japanese Katakana-style English)


So when Miyamoto said "new Mario" he meant new, because the word for new (ATARASHII) in Japanese would never be confused for anything else.


Of course this all gets confusing when it's translated to English where "a New Mario" and "a new Mario" can easily be misunderstood, but in Japanese it's clear.... :D


Also, my 2 cents...I want a Super Mario Galaxy 3D. Imagine the spin move being on a button!

Ian SaneFebruary 01, 2011

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  i would love to see them use Super Mario 2 as the template. I think subcon is a rich universe that hasn't been tapped


I think that's a great idea.  I'm not even a big fan of SMB 2 but it would just be a breath of fresh air.  Same with Zelda II.  Here is a template you guys have not used in over 20 years and it becomes harder and harder to make new sequels stand out.  It just seems like a no-brainer to give those templates a go.

I've also thought of the idea of a Mario game that combines both designs.  So some enemies get crushed when you jump on them but some are unaffected and let you walk on top so you can throw them.  Why not have a game that plays like traditional Mario but also allows the throwing mechanics from Super Mario 2?

They did have that kind of stuff in the Super Mario Advance 4 e-levels, but that was a really limited release, and it's still ripe for exploration.

circasurviverFebruary 01, 2011

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Also, my 2 cents...I want a Super Mario Galaxy 3D. Imagine the spin move being on a button!/quote]

you'll have to shake the 3DS

Ian SaneFebruary 01, 2011

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  They did have that kind of stuff in the Super Mario Advance 4 e-levels, but that was a really limited release, and it's still ripe for exploration.


I wish Nintendo would re-release those levels together as a WiiWare title or something.  These were the first new 2D Mario levels in years and I can't think of a more annoying and inconvenient way to have released them to their fans.  So to obtain these levels I had to buy Super Mario Bros. 3, which I already own, and have an e-Reader and access to TWO GBAs and I have to buy these packs of cards and to truly get all the cards I would have to have bought the game at Wal-Mart which I don't think was common knowledge until AFTER the game had been released so I could very well have already bought it somewhere else and then to top it off Nintendo discontinues the e-Reader very shortly afterwards giving me this small period of time to accomplish all this.  WHAT THE FUCK?!!

A Super Mario Bros 3 e-Reader collection for WiiWare or DSiWare would be such a must-buy.

Capcom integrated e-Reader cards into Mega Man Zero Collection, so there is precedent.

I'd just like to point out that I checked out the interview myself after it was linked.
While the interview does mention a "new Super Mario" on 3DS, it's not specifically mentioned with "Bros" at all, and the "new" itself, were it a "New Super Mario Bros" would have been listed as the title and put in English using katakana - "Nyuu" as is listed in plain English on the Japanese box art for both New Super Mario Bros. and New Super Mario Bros Wii.
Instead, they use the Japanese adjective for "new", as a "new Super Mario game". The non-capitalized new in the translation was correct.

So, "transcriber's interpretation" be buggered. Just the fact that there's gonna be a new Mario game is enough info, and we knew this was gonna happen anyway.

Uh, that's what James and I said above.

Bman87301February 02, 2011

If all he said in the original Japanese was "new Mario game", then how do we know he wasn't just talking about the new Paper Mario? This may not actually be a confirmation of a new game at all.

TJ SpykeFebruary 02, 2011

Maybe, but I think they would have just said that. Miyamoto's wording seems to indicate to me that it's a game they haven't announced yet.

Well, the whole article was about Super Mario Bros. and its follow-ups.  Miyamoto probably doesn't play a huge role in the development of Paper Mario.

Bman87301February 02, 2011

Quote from: MegaByte

Well, the whole article was about Super Mario Bros. and its follow-ups.  Miyamoto probably doesn't play a huge role in the development of Paper Mario.

What exactly has been revealed about this "Paper Mario" game? I haven't really been following it... I know by the screen shots that it's clearly not a port of the N64 original, but is it the 3rd 'Paper Mario' RPG? Or is it a 2nd 'Super Paper Mario' platformer? Has it even been revealed? Does anyone know? If it's a 'Super Paper Mario'-type game, which is more based off of SMB, it certainly could relate as being a followup.

I do apologize, I missed that point -
That's what I get for seeing something that sparks my interest and then scrolling to the "Add Reply" button.

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