Stupid patent trolls, I hope this gets overturned in the appeal. Our patent system is a disaster.

6 types of motion at once, eh...
Anyway, shame that this happened. Reminds me to grab an extra GCN controller since some of mine are getting faulty.

I haven't been able to figure out what the patent troll in this case is actually claiming to have invented.  I thought when this thing started that I heard it was about having a controller with an analog stick and rumble, but the classic controller doesn't have rumble.  The slashdolts seem to think it's about the clicking shoulder buttons, but Microsoft was a part of this case, too, until they paid the troll off.  Microsoft hasn't ever used that kind of shoulder button, right?

i bet the judge doesnt even know whats going on. WTF this shit is stupid...what fucking good is the patent office if they can award patents and you can still get sued for them, reeks of broken system to me.

Are patent system is loopy.  They shouldn't be able to patent things like putting analog sticks with rumble because it is obvious.  Plus how could Nintendo loose a patent war when they had a patent already for rumble... This makes no sense and proves how are patent system is abused and stifle innovation.  I believe people should paid for others inventions but I do not agree when people just have patents and sue people but they don't actually create anything.

I don't know about this case in particular but I really doubt that they actually make what the patent describes.  I believe that if you can't offer then you shouldn't be able to reap the benefits of the patent.  I also believe that you shouldn't be able to buy raw commodities without the ability to store said commodities.

http://www.usatoday.com/tech/gaming/2008-05-15-nintendo-patent_N.htm

Good to see that everyday USAToday readers dont know what's going on either.

Here's a complete list of the patents nintendo is accused of violating

Patent # Title
6,222,525 "Image controllers with sheet connected sensors"
6,344,791 "Variable sensor with tactile feedback"
6,351,205 "Variable-conductance sensor"
6,563,415 "Analog sensor(s) with snap-through tactile feedback"
6,906,700 "3D controller with vibration"

I think this is the analog + digital shoulder buttons.

So does this mean they have to pay X amount a dollars per day to keep classic controllers on the shelves? Or is it one lump sum?

Comment from the USA today article:

Any merit to this?

No, there's no merit to that.  Anascape's patent is so disgustingly broad that this wasn't a "risk."  A broad patent is doubly good, because not only does it encompass a lot of other things but it's very hard to catch in research.

Not to mention Nintendo's large legal teams who's only job is to research patents would have had to reserch intot eh future and see what future patents by Brian Armstong they would have to break. I bet Brian is claiming to have invented friend codes tomorrow.

Perhaps I don't understand patent law, but Patent #6,563,415 "Analog sensor(s) with snap-through tactile feedback" was filed in 9/18/2001 and issued in 2003. Nintendo GameCube was released on September 14, 2001 in Japan, FOUR DAYS BEFORE THIS WAS FILED. If a patent is to retain the rights to a new, novel idea, then the marketplace demonstrates why this patent is invalid and should not have been issued, as the idea was already out there.

Also, what the heck does "clogging the channel" mean. Does this company really suggest that Nintendo prevented them from releasing their own controller? If Nintendo hadn't "infringed" on this patent, Anascape would not have released a controller for the GmaeCube with this function because no games would support it. Would Anascape have released its own gaming system? And did it REALLY take you four+ years to realize that this controller infringed on your rights...or did you just wait until it looked like a profitable lawsuit venture, what with Wii's success? *sigh*

The entire legal system suffers from not having a "this is stupid" filter.  You look at this and a zillion other stupid lawsuits where the second they are even mentioned a judge should just say "this is stupid" and the whole thing is thrown out.

You file for a patent on something that has already been released on the market at the time of inventing?  "This is stupid."  Done.  Someone complains about seizures when there is already a clear warning on the box?  "This is stupid."  Done.

It is always very obvious when a lawsuit is frivolous and yet they're allowed to go on.  Can't we just make "intentionally abusing the legal system for personal gain" a crime?  I guess the concern is some legitimate cases will get ignored but then innocent people go to jail sometimes too.  It will never be perfect but it sure as hell is broken now and worth investigating.

I do support the concept of patents but they need to be pretty damn careful about what is granted a patent.  It should reward TRUE innovation, not lumping pre-existing concepts together.  Is there a patent for a cellphone that is also a toothbrush?  I better get the f*ck to the patent office even though I didn't invent the cellphone or the toothbrush and accomplish nothing by glueing them together.

The annoying thing is any time I've met someone who has tried to patent something it's this huge annoying process that just ends up in rejection anyway and yet somehow scammers like Anascape manage to do it.

Ladies and gentlemen anascape.net

laffo

analscrape

It's a troll. The only way to kill a troll is to use fire or acid. Yes, I support setting their execs on fire or dropping them into a vat of acid.

doesnt anascapes patent infringe on nintendo's patent? To be able to patent a controller with analog rumble then you would have to have the patent on the controller first.

QFT, i had a similar thought...i didnt even read your post till after i posted

Problem is, Anascape doesn't have any actual products that Nintendo could sue over.  Part of their case was that Nintendo prevented them from being able to get into the market.  You are allowed to patent inventions that require previous patents to realize as well as patenting new uses for old inventions.

Apparently the court this lawsuit was filed in is notorious for rubberstamp judgements in favour of the plaintiff and you don't even need a von Karma or anything. Alledgedly the gimmick the area uses to attract business.

Sorry to bump this, but Nintendo won their appeal today with the judge saying that none of Nintendo's accessories violate Anascape's patents.
http://www.nintendolife.com/news/2010/04/nintendo_wins_appeal_in_controller_patents_case

You know I was going to comment that this was resolved until I noticed the date this story was posted.
Thank you TJ Spike for bumping this.:)