Too slow, NewsBot! TOO SLOW FOR SONIC. He'll cut'cha.

I'm upset about the delay, but this newsbit should definatley make up for it.

It did it for me. I got up early today just for this news.

Holy Crap!!! Screw Mario and Sonic at the Olympics! This is the fight we've been waiting for. Can we maybe get a sonic sidekick, like Tails or Knuckles?

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Holy Crap!!! Screw Mario and Sonic at the Olympics! This is the fight we've been waiting for. Can we maybe get a sonic sidekick, like Tails or Knuckles?

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And he's voiced.... bwahahahaha!

Let's hope this delay isn't too serious. I'm feeling optomistic.

Sonic in Smash .... just AWESOME! He looked very fun to play, I can't wait to try him out. If the game is delayed, hopefully it's not more than a couple of weeks.

Man. I hope this delay isn't true.

Nintendo's press site is still showing December 3rd. They could just be slow with the update though.

" Sonic in Smash .... just AWESOME!"
you called for it .. behold: Awesome the hedgehog
btw. .. this is my first post here so, hi all :-)

awesome, Game of the Century CONFIRMED?

and they used Live and Learn in Sonic's video!

Yeah, they even have the good sense to go back far enough in the 3D games to get a good song. Nice.

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Pft, Tails is the classic sidekick, though I agree Knuckles would make for a good Brawl character, too. Let's hope they don't just shove a Sonic clone (Shadow) in there, per Sega's request.

Brawl NEEDS to launch before Christmas. If it doesn't, they are going to lose TONS of sales.

so what is the theory behind the delay? I doubt is sonic, he was in ages ago, and I really doubt they will add other character at this point.

I really doubt we will see the game before christmas now...

but sonic looks really cool, too bad they had to add the voice acting though :P

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This is good news, and he fights ridiculously fast from what I can see in the video My type of character...

Now what do we gotta do to get mega man in one of these games?

My money is on a March release in the U.S. if it gets delayed over here.
But maybe they only delayed it to have enough days left to reveal all the secrets one by one.

I bet on a worldwide release in jan 24. The game appears to be basically finished, this smells a lot like one of those evil marketing decisions when you delay it only to get more sales for other game (probably galaxy).

OMFG WTF HELL YES! This is the character that i've been telling everyone is the most obvious character to show up in smash bros! (outside of nintendo) OMG I almost pissed my pants when i saw the video! Looks like I got my favorite character to use :]

All excitement aside, I felt Snake was kinda looks out of place in smash bros, but Sonic on the other hand looks like he blends in very well with his surroundings in the video. The date possibly being pushed back doesn't hurt too much, but a december release would have been really nice.

My bet's on January 24th. If anything they probably need more time to get the online up to snuff. I'm sure if marketing had anything to say about it, the game would be out by Thanksgiving with whatever issues it had left.

Sonic! Cool!

Maybe the delay is to... add/perfect voice chat w/headset??

hopes against hope!

"Holy Crap!!! Screw Mario and Sonic at the Olympics!"

Damn straight! How fitting that Sega's Mario/Sonic team up sounds lame and Nintendo's Mario/Sonic team up is exactly what the fans want. Shows you which company is currently number one and which company isn't making consoles anymore.

Every new bit of information for SSB Brawl has been awesome. They got Snake. They brought the guy from the other two games back. All controller options are supported. It's ONLINE. And now SONIC!!

Snake was more than I expected to begin with and while I wanted Sonic I did not expect Nintendo to approach yet another company for a crossover character. This game is just getting so much polish and obviously so much care is going into it. For the last few years I've accused Nintendo of releasing a lot of meaningless spin-offs and sequels for a quick buck. There were too many franchise games that didn't feel special. This one does. Melee was just a balls out "how do we make the be best SSB game we possibly can" sequel. It was the kind of sequel you wish all sequels were. The Super Metroid/A Link to the Past kind of mega sequel. Brawl is like Melee in that it seems like HAL just wants to crush the previous game and make it irrelevent. They're going for a mega sequel here.

Too bad it might be delayed since this was a given on my Christmas list. But I'll wait. This looks like the type of game that made me a Nintendo fan in the first place. It's worth waiting for.

Though now I want Mega Man and with both Sega and Konami on board this doesn't even seem like a unrealistic request.

Capcom has a bunch of "megatons" that they are to reveal soon (next week, I believe), so that would a pretty good time to reveal that, eh?

Somebody take that 100% positive post by Ian, frame it, and put it on a wall. We may never see one like it again.

Great, I can finally beat up Sonic to a pulp, I'm happy.

I seriously hope this game does not get delayed for us North-Americans, seriously.

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My bet's on January 24th. If anything they probably need more time to get the online up to snuff. I'm sure if marketing had anything to say about it, the game would be out by Thanksgiving with whatever issues it had left.

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Originally posted by: PlugabugzAnd i'm also thinking that there'll be a character from a Western developer. Lara Croft vs Samus? HMM?

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I'd like to see Alex Roivas, from Eternal Darkness. Or even better yet, Karim. I'm not sure if Nintendo owns those characters or if Silicon Knights does. Little Mac would make a nice Assist Trophy.

As far as third party character go though, Pac-Man could be cool. Nintendo has already worked with Namco and included Pac-Man in the arcade Mario Kart as a racer, so it may not be too far fetched. At this point however, I think that Megaman sounds like a nice fit, stylistically. Unlike Snake. And don't get me wrong, I like Snake, but still don't quite think that he "fits" in as seamlessly as, say, Sonic.

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As far as third party character go though, Pac-Man could be cool.

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"Ew, no...The 3D Pac-Man is a travesty that transcends travesties"

Agreed. Pac-Man is vastly overrated as an iconic videogame character. He hasn't been relevent since the crash. There are like only two REALLY awesome games in the whole franchise and one of them was an unauthorized sequel. Those two games are huge but the franchise isn't. SSB has a lot of nostalgia and 3D Pac-Man sure as hell doesn't give probably ANYONE nostalgic feelings.

Ew, please keep your Eternal Darkness out of my Smash Bros. kthxbye

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"Holy Crap!!! Screw Mario and Sonic at the Olympics!"

Damn straight! How fitting that Sega's Mario/Sonic team up sounds lame and Nintendo's Mario/Sonic team up is exactly what the fans want. Shows you which company is currently number one and which company isn't making consoles anymore.

Every new bit of information for SSB Brawl has been awesome. They got Snake. They brought the guy from the other two games back. All controller options are supported. It's ONLINE. And now SONIC!!

Snake was more than I expected to begin with and while I wanted Sonic I did not expect Nintendo to approach yet another company for a crossover character. This game is just getting so much polish and obviously so much care is going into it. For the last few years I've accused Nintendo of releasing a lot of meaningless spin-offs and sequels for a quick buck. There were too many franchise games that didn't feel special. This one does. Melee was just a balls out "how do we make the be best SSB game we possibly can" sequel. It was the kind of sequel you wish all sequels were. The Super Metroid/A Link to the Past kind of mega sequel. Brawl is like Melee in that it seems like HAL just wants to crush the previous game and make it irrelevent. They're going for a mega sequel here.

Too bad it might be delayed since this was a given on my Christmas list. But I'll wait. This looks like the type of game that made me a Nintendo fan in the first place. It's worth waiting for.

Though now I want Mega Man and with both Sega and Konami on board this doesn't even seem like a unrealistic request.

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"Ew, no...The 3D Pac-Man is a travesty that transcends travesties"

Agreed. Pac-Man is vastly overrated as an iconic videogame character. He hasn't been relevent since the crash. There are like only two REALLY awesome games in the whole franchise and one of them was an unauthorized sequel. Those two games are huge but the franchise isn't. SSB has a lot of nostalgia and 3D Pac-Man sure as hell doesn't give probably ANYONE nostalgic feelings.

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"Hey! That sequel became authorized before it hit the streets! So step off, Pac-Man is awesome when it isn't Namco who is in charge of his destiny."

That's sort of my point. The original Pac-Man game is probably the only decent one Namco ever made. Thus the franchise and the character are overrated. Namco's Pac-Man is really a one hit wonder.

Pac-Man in SSB would probably play fine it's just the character really isn't that great to begin with. He's a force fed "legend" and I don't want characters like that is SSB. Sonic may not be so hot right now but he at least can point to a fair amount of classic games he's in. Pac-Man was finished before the Nintendo legacy that SSB celebrates even really began. His last hit arrived when Mario and Donkey Kong's first hit arrived.

Wouldn't Pac-man play like a slightly modified Kirby or something?

I guess Pac-Man could replace the Punching Bag!

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"Holy Crap!!! Screw Mario and Sonic at the Olympics!"

Damn straight! How fitting that Sega's Mario/Sonic team up sounds lame and Nintendo's Mario/Sonic team up is exactly what the fans want. Shows you which company is currently number one and which company isn't making consoles anymore.

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poor pac man, he's more entitled to be in this game than snake, thats for sure.

But I really don't see him working as a fighter, maybe an assist trophy, and the same for Ridley. I realize is an unpopular opinion but Ridley as a fighter is just boring, leave him as a boss in the single player.

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Rayman would work well as a playable character. The Rabbids could show up as part of his stage or his final smash.

I dunno, Brawl is as much about Sakurai's awesome Japanese connections as anything else. Does Nintendo have that good a relationship with Ubisoft, on either a personal or corporate level? I just don't see Rayman in Brawl, though it could be neat.

Pacman could appear in his traditional iconic form. Something like Mr Game and Watch.
Most of his attacks would of course be of the "lunge and bite" variety but he could also be given the ability to roll and maybe soar for a short time with the super cape in Super Man Pac. Maybe he could also have the ability to shoot pellets/fruit out of his mouth.
Of course as a final smash he could turn blue and become invincible and knock characters off the stage just by knocking into them. He could actually make for a very interesting and completely unique fighter IMO. Plus he'd no doubt have a very interesting retro stage to call his own.

I'm quite sure there WILL be one more third-party character. My bet is it will either be Pacman, Megaman, or possibly even something from Square/Enix.

I think i would prefer him in his classic form, screw Pacman on legs. Then again, i do like his look. Who knows maybe a cross between. Like he stands one second you press forward b suddenly his legs dissapear and he lunges at you. Then again, who knows maybe Pacman could be re-rebranded, or pull a shiek and have two forms! The yellow chain chomp and the boxer!

I don't think there'll be references (assist trophies, items, stages and the like) to 3rd party franchises unless they are represented by a character.

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