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Details on Wireless Connections & Downloads

by Michael Cole - June 7, 2005, 7:49 pm EDT
Total comments: 17 Source: GameSpot

Iwata confirms downloadable classic games will not be free, Nintendo-branded DS hot-spots, downloadable DS demos, and more!

Today Nintendo president Satoru Iwata announced that Nintendo will operate one thousand wireless access points in Japan to encourage the growth of its online Nintendo DS games. Iwata also confirmed strong third party support for Nintendo's online strategy, with "25 software makers" pledging their support for the online gaming service.

GameSpot provies further new details about online DS features. Nintendo will have downloadable online demos of DS games, which can be downloaded from home, and the company will sell a wireless access point that attaches to PCs via a USB drive, making DS and Revolution connectivity straightforward for those currently without a wireless network.

GameSpot also confirms what PGC suspected: Revolution Virtual Console downloads will not be free, though he suggests Nintendo may provide special promotional offers:

"We believe that there's a number of ways that we can use the system, such as to offer a bonus download with the purchase of a new game, or allow some games to be downloaded during a limited time during a campaign period."

On the brighter side, Iwata said Nintendo wants third parties to participate in the Virtual Console marketplace in a way profitable to all companies, which suggests Nintendo is looking into a commission-based structure.

Finally, Iwata elaborated on recurring comments about complex games, explaining that Nintendo feels large games are important, but an overabundance of them is folly. He claims that consumers have a limited amount of time, and most can only play one or two huge titles a year. Nintendo hopes to encourage a variety of games of varied scales and prices.

Talkback

CalibanJune 07, 2005

"and the company will sell a wireless access point that attaches to PCs via a USB drive, making DS and Revolution connectivity straightforward for those currently without a wireless network."

That's great, they should have thought of that for the Cube in the 1st place.
And why not use the hard-drive from my PC to store these downloaded files from Nintendo so that I can access them through the Rev using it's internal memory as if it was a pseudo-RAM?!

BlkPaladinJune 07, 2005

You can put it on the hard drive since you can use SD for expanded memory, they once you fill it you can dump the programs to your hard drive instead of deleting it.

On the side of the virtual console, I never expected it to be free. I envision games between $5-to-$20 depending on the age.

The OmenJune 07, 2005

I won't pay more than $5, that's for sure.

LoknoJune 07, 2005

Ah well, too bad about the free 221 games out of the box rumors being false. Should have suspected that myself, though; Such a collection of free games would undercut the classic series released on GBA, making them out to be quite the rip off. George Harrison was probably misquoted in saying that classic Nintendo games would be free - it did sound like he was hinting at the system discussed above. Still, I hope the download service ends up being a classic gamer's dream come true, cost or no cost.

Also, while I'm glad their making a USB hotspot for those without wireless routers, I hope this device will not be required even if you already have wireless LAN.

Also I hope Pikachu is still in Smash Brothers this time 'round.

On previous occassions Nintendo has said the DS is using standard WiFi protocol found in libraries, cafes, etc. for its online activities. We do not need Nintendo's USB device.

Also, just like hard drives and discs, SD cards can be formatted a variety of ways. Nintendo might use a non-standard format to reduce piracy, but hopefully t hey'll use a standard PC-readable format and use file encryption/ID techniques to tie sensitive software (like NES games) to a single console. Now that Nintendo is using a standard media card format, they don't stand to gain from forcing multiple SD card purchases.

thepogaJune 07, 2005

my 1 Gig compact flash card doesn't like the SD compatability...

KDR_11kJune 07, 2005

Mine doesn't either but then again all those digicams don't seem to care.

TYP: Well, those things are called "SecureDigital" and have DRM in their specs. I don't think N would need to make their own standard though it would help if they encrypted the ROMs in a way that only your Rev can read them. Now that makes me wonder... Will this thing read NGage "game cards"?

Jiggy37June 07, 2005

I'm expecting some kind of point system. Something along the lines of this:


Costs:
NES game: 20 points
SNES game: 40 points
N64 game: 60 points


Rewards for registering various things on Nintendo's website:
Gamecube: 50 points
Game Boy Advance (any type): 50 points
DS: 75 points
Revolution: 100 points
Gamecube game: 20 points
GBA game: 20 points
DS game: 30 points
Revolution game: 30 points
Revolution accessory (e.g. controller, memory card): 10 points


Something like that. Probably different values from what I'm thinking, but yeah, I'm still expecting something vaguely like it.

NephilimJune 07, 2005

iv been saying for months that they would use usb for DS face-icon-small-tongue.gif

any for those talking about storage:
32gig SD cards launch next year, u can easly find out info by searching google
something that has got digital video camera owners excited
which means u could easly, stores games and music and such (music may be supported under action reply i guess?)

Shift KeyJune 07, 2005

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Also, while I'm glad their making a USB hotspot for those without wireless routers, I hope this device will not be required even if you already have wireless LAN.

Bingo. I've got a Wifi network at home, so I give this news a big YAAAAAWN. Its only for those who want to play from home through a broadband connection, but don't have a 802.11b/g wireless network.

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iv been saying for months that they would use usb for DS

What? That's amusing. I remember discussing this during E3 with Mario and the other pietriots, and we came up with this conclusion too, only more specific.
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Mario:Reggie mentions USB connection for DS online
Mario: does that mean i dont need a wirless router?
Infernal Monkey:i'm excited nintendo decided to show lots of great GC games like scooby doo and sponge bob and THQ in general, and have that geoge hairy son talk while good GC footage was playing face-icon-small-smile.gif
Mario:Chris: ahahahaha
Shifty: what?
Infernal Monkey: i guess =o
Shifty: you'd need to connect to another computer. i'm not sure how that'd work unless nintendo brings out a device that magically connects you to the net through a computer
Mario: "free INSIDE the house, through your existing wireless router, or USB connection"
Shifty: yeah, but USB has gotta connect to something.
Shifty: needs more information
Mario: how will DS plug into USB? there's nothing to plug into it.. or will there be a wireless thing that you just connect to the USB?
Shifty: actually, a USB wireless access point would fit the bill
Shifty:plug it in to the USB port on your computer, and then it detects your DS.
Shifty: but most wireless cards don't act as an access point, only as a peer on the network. hmmmm

I wanted to know what you said specifically, but only found this:
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the revolution has a 2 usb ports
answers the question
1usb ds-rev, 1usb in router

which doesn't make much sense to use a wired connection for a wireless network. Oh well.

TalonJune 08, 2005

the USB ports could also be used for other peripherals like cameras, microphones, keyboards, mouse, external hdd's, i-pod. Who knows what nintendo has in store for them.

MaleficentOgreJune 08, 2005

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Originally posted by: TheYoungerPlumber
On previous occassions Nintendo has said the DS is using standard WiFi protocol found in libraries, cafes, etc. for its online activities. We do not need Nintendo's USB device.


unless we want to play at home and don't have a router.

nolimit19June 08, 2005

nintendo is starting to kick ass again.

steveyJune 08, 2005

"and the company will sell a wireless access point that attaches to PCs via a USB drive, making DS and Revolution connectivity straightforward for those currently without a wireless network. "

Will this usb thing be a router or just hoke up the ds and rev?

KDR_11kJune 09, 2005

It's probably a wlan adapter that's preconfigured to support the DS.

Tuxedo.BondJune 13, 2005

USB, meh. Ethernet>USB for devices of this type.

BlackNMild2k1June 13, 2005

I can't find the thread or the link now, but a long, long time ago (sometime last year) someone posted a link to a pic of a little device that looked like a usb thumb drive only a little bit bigger. It had a nintendo(DS?) logo on it and said it was Nintendo's usb wireless connector.

Everyone said it was it was fake, and it probably was, but now it seems that that is what Nintendo had planned all along. I'm gonna go pic hunting..........

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