over half of the PSP's launch titles are ports or remixes. anyway, this deal isn't as good as I figured it would be. The PSP will actually cost $300, unless of course no one is going to buy a game for it. They really need to release a PSP by itself. and there's no way this thing becomes a portable dvd player alternative. There's just no way people rebuy all of their dvds on UMD.

Well if nintendo is gonna announce this online/demasked plan in order to combat the PSP launch like all the rumors are saying, they better get on that pretty darn quickly.

The DS lineup is not that great either. Many are ports or remakes also. The flagship title for the DS is a N64 game (with additional features though). 24 games is a lot of games. No matter if they are ports or not.

More goodies? I don't know about that. The only thing that it comes with that the DS didn't have some equivlant to is the Memory Stick (and the DS doesn't really need that) and as much as I love Spider-Man 2, I've played the Metroid demo more often than I've seen the movie. I still think the DS is the better deal here. And remember, quality over quanity. I'd rather have five good games at launch than 24 that completely suck. Honestly, not everyone has to buy a launch title and certainly very few people (if any) will buy them all. All it takes, in my case, is ONE good game to make me get the system. Mario 64 DS was that game. Will I buy more games? Sure, I've seen the upcoming line up and there are a lot more games for me to get excited about. And how often do you hear about people remembering more than a few launch titles? The PS2 had, what, fifteen titles or so? How many people know them all offhand? Players will mostly remember the few great launch games that helped to sell the system. I got a feeling that for the PSP people will remember four out of all the games. Then again, we just have to wait and see what happens.

Were there five good games at the DS launch? I wouldn't go that far. I think at least five of the PSP launch titles will be good, from what I've read about them (including impressions from the JPN versions). You can find the launch lineup if you search around; it wasn't included in the CNN/Money report, and I'm not sure if I want to include it in PGC's report...maybe I will, I dunno.

In a battle between First Hunt demo vs. Spider-Man 2 on UMD, I'll take the movie any day. A better fight might be PictoChat vs. the movie, because I think PictoChat is a lot more fun than First Hunt, but you need other people with DSes to really use it.

I still can't say what kind of retard is going to buy a UMD just to watch a movie on their PSP when they can buy a DVD. I think the idea is ridiculous.

No offense, Jonnyboy But buying UMDs seems so pointless.

A number of potential US american customers seem to believe the PSP will play PS1 and 2 games. That'll cause a huge uproar when the system finally hits. Quote from Slashdot: "Or you could buy it early and use the PS2 and PS1 library that has been building since the 1990s.". Those people will go nuts, I tell ya!

The funny thing about the UMD is that this time next year they're going to be telling us all about these amazing blu-ray discs and asking us to rebuy our DVDs on those. I don't see why anyone would rebuy a DVD to play it on their PSP...

If Nintendo would bring out some good games it would make a huge difference.

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This isn't including more goodies, it's bundling. If they the price was comparible to the DS then you could say they're including more stuff. But since the price is higher it just means they're forcing people to buy extras they don't need. Realistically it probably won't doom the PSP or anything, or even affect sales at all. It's just a shame they're screwing over their customers.

24 games is a lot especially when the DS has been out for a few months and has less. It doesn't matter if most of those 24 aren't that good. The thing is it provides the exact thing that always given Sony the edge over Nintendo: variety. If you buy a PSP then there's a good chance you'll find something in the launch lineup that you can have fun with. You don't have that option on the DS.

Nintendo had several months to really sell the DS concept. They wasted that time. They have not released a killer app. They have not sold the DS exclusive features as anything but a gimmick. Price is the ONLY thing the DS has better than the PSP and that didn't help the Gamecube. I look at the PSP and I see that Sony is trying REALLY hard to succeed. I look at the DS and I see that Nintendo is being lazy and isn't doing anything. They're expecting the DS to succeed because it's Nintendo and that's not good enough.

When the DS was first shown I picked it as the winner because of it's innovative design. Now that Nintendo has failed to show that design as anything significant and have made virtually no effort to make the DS great I'm predicting that the PSP will win and Sony will be number one on both consoles and portables. Nintendo's just being cocky and arrogant. They're making the same pig-headed stubborn mistakes they did with the N64 and the PSP is going to kick their ass unless they start busting their butt right now before it's too late. I'm not saying I like the PSP more than the DS (I'm not really interested in either portable right now) but I think the PSP will sell better. I hope Nintendo proves me wrong because the DS has such potential.

I disagree, the DS hasn't had to work hard in the US because competition has been absent, they are doing the smart thing saving all their bullets until Sony enters the fray.

In Japan they have managed to easily hold their own against the PSP.

For those bringing up the Quanity Vs Quality argument, please look at what's happening on the Console side. 'Nuff said.

$249? Its not a bad price, since its bundled, but let's see how much the games are. I'm curious whether the Spider Man 2 UMD will just be the movie, sans the extra goodies such as commentary, outakes, making-of's etc.

Another question is is how many PSP's can they crank out? They can spin the news and say they sold out their initial shipment, but Sony will have a mountain to climb.

Will the DS counter this move with a killer app? A price drop? A bundle of their own? Or simply wait to be crushed by the hype? Stay tuned gamers, stay tuned....

While the idea that Nintendo is saving its big games for the PSP launch in North America is attractive, it doesn't change the fact that PSP will have pretty much the same number of games on launch day as the DS and that there's been exactly 0 new games for the DS in over a month. A lot of early DS buyers are getting understandably ticked off, and the general public may be getting the impression that yet again Nintendo is failing to offer a good selection of games with a new system.

If Nintendo is saving up for the PSP launch, it had better have one heck of a punch, because I think a lot of people are underwhelmed right now.

Personally I think Sony shot themselves in the foot with this annoucement. They could have released at $180 and really put fear in Nintendo, $250 means Nintendo can sit at $150 for a while.

Yes the Nintendo lineup in the states has been weak, but by the end of march Nintendo could have Yoshi, Pokemon and Wario out in the states, annouced online plans and set dates for games like Animal crossing, heck they could have Play-yan announced for the US by then, Nintendo merely has to have a few announcements before the PSP releases and really take the wind out of Sony's sails.

Don't y'all realize what you're saying? 250 dollars (sans game) for a portable gaming device. This is why I don't want great graphics or any of that mainstream crap coming into handhelds, it's ruining it and jacking up the prices. When the GBA came out it was what, 100$ (not sure). I thought even that was pricey. But this is just insane. At least the DS gives you a game you can play with when you're bored on a trip (even if it is a demo). There's just so many times you can watch SpiderMan 2, and after 3 times, I'm tired of it. That's the beauty about games, you can play them over and over (unless it's a game movie like FF or MGS) and not get tired. Also, even if the games don't suit your needs there's the GBA compatibility. I think Nintendo put that in because they knew there wasn't going to be a great surge of games yet. So horray for them, it's great to finally be able to SEE my GBA. This is the reason why I think parents won't buy their kids one, oh wait, Sony isn't aiming towards kids. They want THE MATURE HARDCORE TECHNO RACING NEXT GEN GAMING gamers. Personally, they can have them. I love my DS, my roommate loves my DS, my girlfriend, sisters, basically everyone I know, loves my DS. My girlfriend's getting one for Animal Crossing and I know my roommie will get one for Zelda. But oh well. They can launch and maybe I'll buy one, but not at that price. Not even at 150. When the PSP goes for under a hundred, then I'll think about it.

I think the reason Sony is pricing so high is to counter the money they have lost in Japan due to the low software sales.

Sony is losing money on the Hardware, if they don't achieve profitability in Software they will not last long in the market.

"I disagree, the DS hasn't had to work hard in the US because competition has been absent, they are doing the smart thing saving all their bullets until Sony enters the fray."

That's an acceptable strategy but there's no indication that that's what Nintendo is doing. Where are these bullets? It's February. The PSP launches in March. If Nintendo has some big guns ready to go we have to see them in the next few days or they just don't exist. If Nintendo had a list of major games set to release alongside the PSP launch then I would have more faith in them. But they don't. Warioware and Yoshi's Touch 'n' Go aren't going to cut it. There needs to be something major and now it's too late. If Nintendo planned on waiting until the PSP launch then they would have shown us some killer title a while ago.

We'll see at E3 but any DS killer app that is going to have a real effect on the DS vs PSP war has to be released by Christmas at the latest. That means if such a title exists they have to be working on it now.

PSP Release List

-- Ape Escape(R): On the Loose, Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- ATV Offroad Fury(R): Blazin' Trails, Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- Darkstalkers Chronicle(TM): The Chaos Tower, Capcom
-- Dynasty Warriors(R), KOEI
-- FIFA 2005, Electronic Arts
-- Gretzky(TM) NHL(R), Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- Lumines(TM), Ubisoft
-- Metal Gear Acid(TM), Konami
-- MLB(TM), Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- MVP Baseball, Electronic Arts
-- NBA, Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- NBA Street Showdown, Electronic Arts
-- Need for Speed(TM) Rivals, Electronic Arts
-- NFL Street 2 Unleashed, Electronic Arts
-- Rengoku(TM): Tower of Purgatory, Konami
-- Ridge Racer(TM), Namco
-- Smartbomb, Eidos Interactive
-- Spider-Man 2(TM), Activision
-- Tiger Woods PGA TOUR(R), Electronic Arts
-- Tony Hawk's Underground 2 Remix, Activision
-- Twisted Metal: Head On(TM), Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- Untold Legends: Brotherhood of the Blade, Sony Online Entertainment
-- Wipeout(R) Pure, Sony Computer Entertainment America
-- World Tour Soccer, Sony Computer Entertainment America

Not an excuse, but a reason for the DS' scant library: Nintendo put the machine out to market early.

Again, not an excuse -- a reason. And in my opinion, an unacceptable one. For me, it's alright -- three games and the GBA library can tide me over for a long time. But for public perception -- awful. Had they delayed the DS launch for a few more months, it too could have launched with more than six games (and six more during week two). Instead, we're left waiting for Wario Ware Touched (which, after playing the Japanese version, I respectfully disagree that it "ain't going to do it." Unless we're talking strictly about sales numbers. You know the mass market will go for style over substance any day of the week, unfortunately.)

I love my DS, but I'm still really, really upset with the software heads up at the Big N.

Looking at that release list there's like more decent PSP launch games then there were DS launch games period. And who would have thought that Sony, who had one first party PS2 launch title, would release more launch titles than Nintendo did? That's 9 first party titles, none of which are ports (though ATV could be). The DS might not even have 9 first party titles by the end of the year. Sure Sony isn't nearly as great as Nintendo is at making games but they're bringing the content and they're filling in the genres. If they can make 9 games Nintendo should be able to make at least 4. The weak lineup of the DS is completely inexcusable.

Go figure, most of the titles are sports games. That easily knocks out 14 of their line up for me.

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Looking at that release list there's like more decent PSP launch games then there were DS launch games period. And who would have thought that Sony, who had one first party PS2 launch title, would release more launch titles than Nintendo did? That's 9 first party titles, none of which are ports (though ATV could be). The DS might not even have 9 first party titles by the end of the year. Sure Sony isn't nearly as great as Nintendo is at making games but they're bringing the content and they're filling in the genres. If they can make 9 games Nintendo should be able to make at least 4. The weak lineup of the DS is completely inexcusable.

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Well, that launch line-up is spectacular, in my opinion. Not that I'm really interested in any of them (save for Lumines), but the public will. The game lineup will really help Sony.

On the otehr hand, the price will hurt them. Well, maybe not THAT much, because they give the perception that you're getting a ton with the package. Wow, I'm getting the cord I need to charge the battery! I would have never expected that to come with the system! Plus the PSP NEEDS it's memory stick; the DS comes with that built in each game. Spider-man 2 is the only actual extra, and it will certainly attract alot of people, but I'm guessing that about half of the people the PSP is targeting already owns the DVD =p Plus, you pretty much need to be on a long car trip or something to watch this, because it'll be tough to watch it on the bus home from school =p

I absolutley LOVE the fact that people think the game can play PS1/2 games and DVDs. If this perception carries over into launch, it'll be hilarious to watch forums and phone-lines explode with "how does i fits dvd into psp????" Unfortunatley, returning a system won't take you off the total sales =\

I dont know if the launch lineup is spectacular.... its average imo. a Card based Metal Gear game... ugg... but its got the support of EA so they attract the Main stream gamer.


Nintendo could use some of their games moved up. Prime Hunters and Mario Kart could do alot of good if they are released before May. And the online announcement when is that...

Not all those games will come out on launch day. "Launch window" is industry garbage for "these will probably all be avaliable in a month or something, oh I dropped my bread roll and now it's dirty". But yes, it's still a better selection of games than what DS is offering in the US. In fact, compare it to the DS and you'd swear it's a dead system already (seriously, ONE game for January? Zoo Keeper's grand and all.. BUT ONE GAME). I bet a lot of them will bomb, though (i'm looking at you, Lumines ;__; ).

Forcing people to get the "Value" pack is a stupid move. A 32 MB Memory Stick is basically useless if you intend to make use of the MP3/Video/Image features, which will probably be everybody that buys a PSP. Spiderman 2? Who cares? A non-interactive demo disc is baffling and Sony are known to pack in the worst possible headphones with their stuff.

This will still sell out, however. Expect to see idiots paying insane amounts for one on eBay a week after launch.

Average? There's a WipeOut game (which - judging from how good the previous games were, the impressions gleaned from over the 'net and the media - will be sextacular), Ridge Racers (which is apparently the PSP's first 'killer app') and Lumines (which is also supposed to be pretty awesome). Seems like a very strong launch for the hardcore gamers out there. And for the average Joe, there's a good variation of games, even if not all of them are particularily great.

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Average? There's a WipeOut game (which - judging from how good the previous games were, the impressions gleaned from over the 'net and the media - will be sextacular), Ridge Racers (which is apparently the PSP's first 'killer app') and Lumines (which is also supposed to be pretty awesome). Seems like a very strong launch for the hardcore gamers out there. And for the average Joe, there's a good variation of games, even if not all of them are particularily great.

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You're missing the point. Infernal had a 32 in there before 'MB.' That's not so big. For game saves it's plenty large enough (for launch...), but 32MB is WAY too small to hold any significant amount of music, nevermind video which takes up alot more space. 32 MB can probably hold roughly 10 songs (depending on song length and bitrate, of course). Couple that with game saves and you get even less. And since alot of people are going to buy the PSP for MP3's and crap, this is pathetic.

EDIT: Bill comes in and posts before me, whoopie, the world has jelly.

If you take too much time to make a long-winded post, people are going to steal your glory...

I LOL at all the people who said it'd be $150.

Also, people seem to be giving the PSP far too much credit. The "juggernaut" hype over it doesn't seem to have diminished since day-1, even though the DS came out, whupped it's ass, and put the PSP in an "uphill battle" position. Sony has already pulled off some significant blunders with the PSP, which, if the system was being sold by Nintendo and not Sony, would have set off yet another round of "Nintendo is doomed" and "Nintendo's going third party" speeches from everyone.

The Japanese PSP, with it's charger, was 20,000 yen.

The Japanese Bundle Pack, with the charger, headphones, soft case, and 32MB Memory Stick was 25,000 yen.

The American PSP is the Bundle Pack with a non-playable demo and Spiderman 2, for $250.

Headphones = meh.
Case = REQUIRED, if you don't want your screen to get scratched to hell.
Memory Stick = REQUIRED, but too small to make good use of it. 32MB = PSP's MC59.
Spiderman 2 on UMD = Obviously Betamax. How on Earth does Sony expect this to succeed? How are people excited by it? Beats me.

IMO, the big thing about Spiderman 2 on UMD is that it's a fantastic showcase for all the movie piracy you'll be able to do on your PSP once you buy a decent-sized Memory Stick.

BTW, you better be in love with that PSP launch title list, because online retailers seem to be saying that you need to buy three launch titles (some PSP games may be as cheap as $40!) if you want a PSP. Oh yeah and the "launch window" vs "launch day" definition could really mess up your plans when you're picking which three games you want to buy.

$50 x 3 + $250 = $400 PSP!!!1!!

I really think this a bad move by Sony, IMO they would have been much better off launching at 200$ or less without all the frills. Granted people are going to have buy the memory sticks but in many people's minds they don't read this purcahse as "part of the system" but as extra money. As it stands now people are going to see PSP as a 250$ portable system which is NOT that enticing!

Well to be fair, a lot of people think the DS can play GB and GBC games too, I even saw an evil EB person tell a mother that it could play old GB games, and she preordered it right there.

This price isn't so surprising, because people will buy it anyway and the entire launch shipment will still sell out, i'd be a bit pissed that you can't buy the system by itself without all that junk though. While that lineup is indeed impressive, I don't really see one game there worth $300. It doesn't have the system seller like Super Mario 64 DS was/is.

Now Nintendo, HURRY UP WITH MORE GAMES.

My thoughts:

1) I agree wholeheartedly about the UMDs. Who's actually going to buy movies on UMD? Come on. I would never buy movies on that format! They're useless anywhere but on your PSP.

2) Nintendo absolutely made the right decision in launching the DS when they did. It allowed their console to get a foothold, and regardless of what games are out there, those DS's are bought and paid for. They now have the coveted installed userbase.

3) It's obvious that the DS was a rushed project from the start. To Nintendo's credit, they've done well to release it so quickly. Unfortunately, when you announce a console and release it within the same year, that means most game companies have no time to prepare anything. If you look at the DS launch games, they're all made by heavy hitters that obviously were given priority in terms of distribution of dev kits (Ubisoft, Namco, Sega, EA, THQ, Activision). The fact that the DS has half of the games of the PSP is likely a result of Sony getting dev kits out earlier and giving people four extra months, and also companies having more faith in Sony at this point.

Somebody at worked asked me about the DS and how I liked it, and I said, "It's cool but there's no games for it right now." 'nuff said.

4) WipeOut PSP and Ridge Racers PSP are better than anything on the DS right now. That's a real problem for Nintendo.

5) I also agree with SgtShivers - the PSP is making portable gaming way too pricey. There's a reason why the GBA SP sells like hotcakes - it's small, cheap and cool. The PSP is cool but it's not small or cheap. $249.99 is what I'd expect to pay for a home console, not a portable. I won't buy one until the price drops considerably.

6) If you want to use your PSP for MP3s, the 32MB Memory Stick is useless. Besides, I'd rather buy one of those new iPod Shuffles. For $99 you can get a 512MB version, and it's about as big as a stick of gum - perfect for working out or jogging. In my eyes, the PSP is pretty much useless as an MP3 player.

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All I have to say is, the PSP "launch games" (which are actually coming out sometime in the unspecified "launch window") is way more impressive than the DS's entire US lineup as of now. Apart from Mario 64 there's nothing worth owning. I don't even see that as a reason to pick up DS now... I'll wait for some new games, like Mario Kart or Metroid.

Wipeout Pure and Twisted Metal sure are going to be fun multiplayer games, and Ridge Racers and NFS Underground on PSP are better than their DS counterparts...
Speaking of which, notice all these games are racing games haha...

That said Mario Kart, Wipeout Pure, and Twisted Metal should all be great fun, as long as their online. Which only looks likely for Mario Kart though...

BTW, this Bundle Pack seems (IMO) to confirm that the PSP instruction booklet that was seen on that government website was legit.

So now we just get to wait and see if the Sony reps have been lying when they said that every PSP game will be "region free", regardless of the "region 2" logos that are seen on the Japanese games, or if the PSP's instruction booklet is lying when it says that any region free games will come with an as-yet-unseen "region all" logo.

I think this price also confirms the Nintendo DS won't be getting a price drop for quite a while.

Also, I think the fact that the PSP launch details are being reported by a Nintendo site highlights how much of a battle this is going to be.

Well I cant wait for the many complaints of the Square button and the 49.99 price tag per game OUCH.

"Well I cant wait for the many complaints of the Square button and the 49.99 price tag per game OUCH."

Not gonna happen. It seems for some reason Sony can get away with a lot more crap than the other two.

or people could just be smart like me and buy neither... It's not like your missing anything, you played all these games 4 years ago

Yeah, I remember Yoshi Touch&Go and Another Code and Pictochat and Metroid Hunters and all those other great games. What wonderful memories.

*excessively heavy and dramatic sigh of reminiscence*

$50 for PSP games? Pretty steep.

"That's 9 first party titles, none of which are ports (though ATV could be)."

Ape Escape and Twisted Metal are actually ports of PS1 games. I'm not sure about the other games, though.

I still believe everybody is wildly overestimating the PSP. It doesn't matter how many "goodies" are bundled in with it, $250 is way beyond what most people would be willing to spend on a portable system. $50 per game is more than most people are willing to spend on portable games.

Also if Sony might be planning to charge users a Wi-Fi charge if people plan to use their PSP to play online via Wi-Fi. If nintendo makes their Wi-Fi free(which is most likely yes) Nintendo will have a big advantage here.

250 USD? Let's see... That'll sell for about 250 EUR here knowing those money-grubbing tech companies. For 270 EUR I got my PDA, which came with a protective case, 32 megabytes of built-in flash memory (which is not used by the OS since that's stored in the RAM), a software bundle including about four games and some interactive demos (and some software I don't care to mention for this discussion) and the charger and cradle (of course). 70 EUR gave me a 1GB CF card and some googling playback capabilities for MP3, OGG, etc (can also play movies but I can't be bothered to wipe my CF card to fit one movie on there). Google also gave me the ability to play all of my Lucas arts adventures on the PDA with the touchscreen. So, why exactly should I care about the PSP's media capabilities?

Third-parties are barely willing to put any effort into developing for the HUGELY successful GBA but they're immediately jumping on board the unproven PSP which is going up against two decades of Nintendo's monopoly on the handheld market.
I don't buy it. Sony either paid them off or somehow pressured them (perhaps using its console dominance as leyway) into creating all these launch and first year games and in the long-run, we won't see nearly this degree of commitment. Not unless these initial games sell really well which is unlikely since everyone will just be watching Spiderman 2 and bragging to their friends about owning a PSP anyway. Eventually the PSP will get the same kind of half-assed third-party support the GBA has. The DS will get the same from third-parties but it's Nintendo's own first and second party games that will keep the DS on top. If you think about it, other than the Castlevania, Sonic, and Square games which will likely continue on the DS, Nintendo's own games are the only ones that have done significantly well in the handheld market anyway.

I thought the PSP and DS had about equal support with the DS having the GBA and the PSP having the PS1 history behind them?

In a interesting note Age Of Empires (Its a Microsoft Games franchise) has been announced for the DS and the publisher is Majesco. So I suppose the DS can do RTS's good if done right.

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Does anyone think the increased system price in America is due to the small number of games sold thus far in Japan? If Sony was planning on losing money on the system they were counting on making up for it with games sales. Since sales have been sluggish thus far, perhaps Sony decided it couldn't afford to lose so much money on the system.

"Does anyone think the increased system price in America is due to the small number of games sold thus far in Japan?"

No, I think they're just planning to get away with the increased system price in America.

Look at the Ipod. Look at all the editors on GS and IGN who are planning to get one anyway. It's a form of geek pride here, a pride in buying useless gadgets that only increases with their price and almost solidifies into an illusion of actual value. Don't underestimate it.

What Sony has done is throw their system out there as a machine that is on a higher level than the DS. No respectable geek will buy a DS anymore.

manitor: I was referring to the PS1 overtaking the N64. The devs see this as a big fight with no clear winner yet so they work with whatever the manager thinks might win. Some believe the DS will win because the Gameboy always did, some believe the PSP will win because the PS1 did.

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Does anyone think the increased system price in America is due to the small number of games sold thus far in Japan? If Sony was planning on losing money on the system they were counting on making up for it with games sales. Since sales have been sluggish thus far, perhaps Sony decided it couldn't afford to lose so much money on the system.

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That's an acceptable strategy but there's no indication that that's what Nintendo is doing. Where are these bullets? It's February. The PSP launches in March. If Nintendo has some big guns ready to go we have to see them in the next few days or they just don't exist. If Nintendo had a list of major games set to release alongside the PSP launch then I would have more faith in them. But they don't. Warioware and Yoshi's Touch 'n' Go aren't going to cut it. There needs to be something major and now it's too late. If Nintendo planned on waiting until the PSP launch then they would have shown us some killer title a while ago.

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