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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #25 on: September 02, 2010, 06:17:24 PM »
I'm amused by all the people who think this won't sell.

It may not be for *you*, but it will sell.  How many copies of the Super Mario Advance games sold (at a real full price) on the GBA?  Hell, how many copies of the NES Classics SMB sold (although not at full price)?

At $30 with all the goodies, I'd bet this to be a million+ seller.
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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #26 on: September 02, 2010, 06:22:15 PM »
This kind of release is standard in Japan (though less so for Nintendo), and it's actually cheap compared to the usual prices for this kind of thing.  It sounds like it might be a limited run anyway, but it will absolutely sell.
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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #27 on: September 02, 2010, 07:46:06 PM »
If the press release specifically stated that the game is Super Mario All-Stars, I don't think this compilation includes Super Mario World. That game was titled Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World, so the article probably would have mentioned Super Mario World.

Ever since New Super Mario Brothers Wii launched, I've thought it'd be neat if they created a New Super Mario All-Stars that included all the previous Mario games in the NSMB style. The co-op alone would make it worthwhile. Too bad that isn't what this is.

It's a shame it's just a port.  It'd be neat if it included options for NES, SNES and Wii graphics.  It'd be awesome if it included an option to use the NSMBWii engine for multi-player.  Imagine playing Super Mario Bros. 2 USA with four players.  But then, we're looking at a $50 release instead of a $30 release, I'm sure.
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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #28 on: September 02, 2010, 07:52:22 PM »
Well, it says Super Mario Collection, which is the Japanese name for Super Mario All-Stars.  Super Mario All-Stars + Super Mario World was never released in Japan, so take that as you will.
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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #29 on: September 02, 2010, 08:34:24 PM »
Ask for my fanboy card if you want, but none of the 20-odd VC games I bought are the Mario ones. So I'd be in if this came over at $30 (hell, probably $40 given NoC's pricing decisions) since the games are $21, the CD and artbook are $19, and I know this will play on my inevitable Super Wii.
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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #30 on: September 03, 2010, 11:07:49 AM »
It seems that part of me says, "Why would I buy this when I have a perfectly-function cartridge and SNES to play it on?" while the fan in me says, "All that great stuff that comes with it. Uh...!" It's kind of like the TvC dilemma I heard about on an episode of RFN a few weeks back.
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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #31 on: September 03, 2010, 11:30:50 AM »
hey look, mops a star!!!

http://www.veoh.com/browse/videos/category/technology_and_gaming/watch/v18508205CCEkHyAN

on vc I got the super mario bros, lost levels and world..   skipped on 3 and 2 (odd considering 2 is my favorite in the series)
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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #33 on: September 04, 2010, 10:33:58 AM »
I want it, I lost my All Stars cart long ago and the soundtrack is too expensive in the stars catalog.



maybe they can trick the Wii and run all the old games in 720p.

Massively pointless if the sprite art is only set up for 320x240 or less.

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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #34 on: September 04, 2010, 11:06:20 AM »
KDR, where in the catalog is it? I just checked the UK catalog and the only Mario soundtrack I could find was for Super Mario Galaxy.
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« Reply #35 on: September 04, 2010, 11:22:26 AM »
KDR, where in the catalog is it? I just checked the UK catalog and the only Mario soundtrack I could find was for Super Mario Galaxy.

Sorry, that's what I meant. I want the Galaxy soundtrack but almost 4000 stars is really too much for me.

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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #36 on: September 04, 2010, 12:04:16 PM »
Yeah, based on how you get stars it seems like you would have to buy several hundred pounds worth of games to get enough stars for it. We don't even get that option in North America though. I ended up downloading it online since it is not available here (it has not been released commercially, only has Club Nintendo rewards in Japan and Europe. This means I would have to try and find a copy on a site like eBay).
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« Reply #37 on: September 07, 2010, 09:43:38 AM »
"Super Mario Collection" is something I'm always on the lookout for my Super Famicom while browsing used games shops here in Japan.
The only cart I ever found was something in the region of 3000 Yen ($30) without a box or manual.
So yeah, now I think about it this isn't such a bad deal, considering the extra stuff you get.

I would however, pay full price for:
-NSMBW graphical updates (optional of course) of these all on one disk with 4-player.
-E-reader levels
-Mario World
-GC/CC/CC-Pro support
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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #38 on: September 07, 2010, 10:36:33 AM »
I would buy it because the All Star games are quite different than the originals.  The graphics update alone are all quite nice and just makes great games even better.  I also like the idea of having all the classic games have a similar consistent looking Mario, that is still sprite based. 

If it included World it would be an instant buy.  If it included World and World 2...it would be an instant full price game buy.

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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #39 on: September 13, 2010, 08:43:46 AM »
If you were to import this, would it play on a U.S. Wii?  Or would you need a Japanese Wii?

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« Reply #40 on: September 13, 2010, 10:06:58 AM »
You would have to mod your Wii (either through hardware or something like Gecko OS). By default a Wii will not play games from other regions.
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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #42 on: September 13, 2010, 01:22:17 PM »
They should include an enhanced remake of Mario 64 into this collection.
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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #43 on: September 13, 2010, 10:39:26 PM »
The soundtrack definitely makes this a tempting offer, assuming the collection make its way across the Pacific. On a side note, after watching the Japanese Kirby Epic Yarn trailer, I've come to the conclusion that firetruck Kirby is the most adorable thing I have seen yet from this game.
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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #44 on: September 14, 2010, 09:34:48 AM »
OK, so now we know: this game is the SNES ROM dumped on a DVD disk, nothing new, not even Mario World.

So basically it's all about having the cool box and the soundtrack CD. (and being entered into the sweepstakes to win some cool swag)

I'm just hoping this causes the price to come down of that boxed copy of Super Mario Collection I've had my eye on for a while now. My Super Famicom collection will feel so much more complete with it.
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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #45 on: September 14, 2010, 09:50:46 AM »
"Super Mario Collection" is something I'm always on the lookout for my Super Famicom while browsing used games shops here in Japan.
The only cart I ever found was something in the region of 3000 Yen ($30) without a box or manual.
So yeah, now I think about it this isn't such a bad deal, considering the extra stuff you get.

I would however, pay full price for:
-NSMBW graphical updates (optional of course) of these all on one disk with 4-player.
-E-reader levels
-Mario World
-GC/CC/CC-Pro support

See, when they first announced it, that's what I thought they meant. If this is simply a SNES game emulated on Wii... hm, now where have I seen that before? Oh, wait, it's called Virtual Console. The appeal of this package is minimal to me - some may want it for the book and the CD, but that's supplementary stuff at best. I would only consider buying this through download. Not necessarily 800 Points; it's a special occasion and the game is an anthology of 3 NES games, so the premium price of 1500 would be acceptable. That's not happening though, and it's debatable as to whether it will ever show up in the West. If it does not, meh, no big loss.
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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #46 on: September 14, 2010, 10:04:49 AM »
See, when they first announced it, that's what I thought they meant. If this is simply a SNES game emulated on Wii... hm, now where have I seen that before? Oh, wait, it's called Virtual Console. The appeal of this package is minimal to me - some may want it for the book and the CD, but that's supplementary stuff at best. I would only consider buying this through download. Not necessarily 800 Points; it's a special occasion and the game is an anthology of 3 NES games, so the premium price of 1500 would be acceptable. That's not happening though, and it's debatable as to whether it will ever show up in the West. If it does not, meh, no big loss.

4 games, and enhanced with SNES and sounds and graphics (along with tons of other improvements over the NES versions). How you thought there was even a chance it would be 1500 (when even the plain NES versions would cost 2100 points, and these are much better). It's OK if you don't want it, but it's pretty cool and worth more than what you are willing to pay.
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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #47 on: September 14, 2010, 10:22:21 AM »
4 games, and enhanced with SNES and sounds and graphics (along with tons of other improvements over the NES versions). How you thought there was even a chance it would be 1500 (when even the plain NES versions would cost 2100 points, and these are much better). It's OK if you don't want it, but it's pretty cool and worth more than what you are willing to pay.

Ah, I forgot about Super Mario USA. Even still, it's not like they have any additional work to do and I'd hesitate to say that All-Stars made "tons of improvements" as you say. I mean, I love these games as much as the next person, but I have them all, some in more than one form, and to me, there's little justification other than the CD, and it's so easy to get that music off the internet anyway.
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Re: Super Mario Collection Special Pack Revealed
« Reply #48 on: September 14, 2010, 10:27:15 AM »
Perhaps this is their solution to not putting Super Mario All-Stars on Virtual Console in that case?
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