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Community Forum Roundup & Hot Topic!
« on: August 16, 2007, 09:33:02 PM »
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 Hey hey! This is the weekly feature where we shoot forum threads into your face!    


Last week, we asked our forum posters if they were planning on buying Metroid Prime 3. Pretty much everyone who answered the poll said yes, despite a lot of great devil's advocates in the thread. Woot. Peruse the posts further down the page! Meanwhile...    


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 S-U-P-E-R posted: I don't think any amount of genius control will fix a multihour backtracking deathmarch  
 Smoke39 posted: I'll buy it, but honestly my expectations aren't all that high. The first Prime was a good proof of concept, but in my opinion Prime 2 was a step back in terms of recreating the spirit of the 2D games in 3D. The addition or the translators and keys as arbitrary items to enforce a more linear path really bugs me.    


Both games also felt a bit too much like Zelda in first person to me. That is, it seems to me that both Primes have a fairly heavy emphasis on solving puzzles (usually involving messing with junk left behind by the Chozo/Luminoth or with space pirate gizmos), whereas the 2D games usually seem to have a greater emphasis on simply overcoming the environment.    


Now there's all this talk about retraversal complaints and this business about voice acting and other bounty hunters. Just how bad this is really depends on the extent of its implementation. Remove retraversal and you not only get extremely boring levels like most FPSs have these days, but you also remove a huge part of what Metroid's always been about. Same with these other bounty hunters. Remove the isolated solitude from the game and you get a completely different tone.    


And besides all that I'm just tired of Retro's style. I never did like their dumb character/enemy design.  


 Shecky posted: When I played Metroid Zero and Super Metroid before that, part of the fun was the fealing of different environments and staying in front of the curve... you feel threatened by stronger attacks only to find a couple of energy tanks in rapid succession. I think Retro managed to capture that with style.    


Now, I like Retro's style with these games. However, I think it's tough for developers... you can't please everyone. Your game is too short, artificially long, hard, easy.... etc. Not everyone likes to "soak up the environment" and just want to get to the end, can you even make a game that doesn't feel tedious to those types and still cater to the crowd that enjoys the exploration?    


I know a few people who played the original Prime. One got about half way through and couldn't progress further b/c of the controls/difficulty. One played all they way through and quit on the final boss, he found the visor switching to frustrating - and I don't blame him, as I found it an artificial way to increase difficulty. Another played on normal and then proceeded to play it again on hard.    


I just played it on normal and enjoyed it, and that was worth the $50.    



 Spak-Spang posted: I will buy Metroid Prime 3: Corruption.    


Although the series has its faults, for the most part it has been an exceptionally well designed and crafted series. The first game Prime, was an amazing breath of fresh air for a genre (FPS) that seemed to be all going the same direction.    


The sequel Prime 2, fell into the trap of trying to be bigger and better than the first, but did not add anything new to the experience...instead it became tedious, and the boss fights too difficult...in the end although it was still a well crafted game it just didn't feel as good...specially the cheesy multiplayer experience.    


So will Corruption be more like the original brilliance, or be more like less than spectacular sequel? The truth is it will be neither...it is going to be different.    


First, the trademark weapon switching of series is going to be absent or crippled, because power ups are stackable, more like traditional Metroid games. Next, the controls have evolved into the Wiimote and as such gestures and movement are going to bring you deeper into the game.    


The ultimate reason I am buying this game, and why any fan of the genre should buy the game, is to finally see how the Wii can handle first person controls. Metroid Prime 3, Nintendo has given Retro ample time in perfecting the controls of the game, not just moving in the game, but in adding gesture based commands as well. If Nintendo can't succeed in making the Wii control a FPS perfectly, then why should we expect 3rd parties to have equal or greater success.    


I am buying this game, because this game above all others will prove the Wii experience to me. If this game plays beautiful, and if it truly revolutionizes how to play FPS then the Wii's controller experiment is a success and is the future of gaming. If it fails then I believe we will begin to see the limits of the Wii controller sooner than we expected.    


Finally, if you do not agree with me that Corruption holds this much at stake for Nintendo, I will just offer you this reason then: "Metroid Prime 3: Corruption should be a great finale to an already fantastic series and if you are fan of the Prime games you can't go wrong with the game."    



 Ian Sane: IF I can find a Wii by then (my previously found "sure thing" Wii source has dried up just as I want a Wii, must be the fact that a, you know, good game is coming out driving up interest) I will buy Metroid Prime 3. Retro has just nailed Metroid in 3D. I loved the first two games so unless Wii controls totally bork it I'll likely love this one too. I don't care if FPS fans or non-Metroid fans don't get Metroid Prime. Hell with Nintendo being all non-gamer having a Nintendo franchise that's just for a core group of hardcore fans is pretty cool. I love how they don't have multiplayer. That's Retro saying to me "We're making the game for you, the fan. We don't care about the dumb jerks who don't like Metroid Prime." We seem to live in an era where everybody looks to who is NOT buying their product. Every TV show or movie sequel all tries to get who didn't tune in before and takes the fans for granted. Metroid Prime 3 is for the fans and we should enjoy it now before some bean counter in NCL decides that Metroid needs to target non-gamers.    


Ty also sh!ts on games like Zelda. Games that require puzzle solving, thinking, and exploration don't interest him as much as twitch games. My brother's the same way. Loves Contra, can't get into Zelda. To complain about backtracking in Metroid is like complaining that all Ramones songs sound the same. You just don't f*cking get it, you know?    


What's so ironic is that when Metroid Prime was announced as being in a first person view EVERYONE was worried about it not playing like a Metroid game. That was a huge concern and I even remember the Metroid Database fan site talking about how the site wouldn't cover a Metroid FPS. Things turned out right with Metroid Prime exceeding expectations and feeling like Metroid. But since then there's tons of complaints of people who WANT Metroid to be an FPS. After all the initial worry about Metroid being an FPS it is so damn insane for ANYONE to request that.    



 couchmonkey posted: Since Guilty Gear moved and Space Station Tycoon is rumoured to be delayed or cancelled, MP3 suddenly has a bit more interest from me. Look, third parties, I TRY to buy your games, but when you delay them, what else can I do?    


That said, I'm still thinking of holding back for Guilty Gear, I don't havea lot of money right now.  


 HadesGigas posted: It was no joke. Prime Pinball is by leaps and bounds the best game in the series. It's not great or anything though, due to it being so barebones.  
   


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