Topic: "Save" your progress/VC games

[The Omen]

I don't know if anyone is aware of this.  You can sort of save your progress in, say, Gunstar Heroes or Solomon's Key.  I just stopped Gunstar Heroes on the last level by exiting out to the Wii menu (home button).  Lo and behold, when I started Gunstar Heroes back up, I was at the exact same spot.  I turned the console off, and same thing (not off off, but wiiconnect off).  So it's sort of like the old days where you would leave your NES on all night long so you didn't lose your spot in the game.  Obviously, with games that limit your continues, that limit will still apply, but at least you can play the games in bursts and not try to jam the entire experience into on sitting.

Not a life changing find, but I thought perhaps someone may not know about it.

[Flames_of_chaos]

Each Virtual console game makes a suspend point whenever you quit the game via the home menu, reboot the system or turn off the system.

[Bill Aurion]

Just to note, not ALL games have a suspend point...(Super Mario 64, for example...)  I guess if a game doesn't have a save function, it implements the suspend point...

[The Omen]

Hey!  Looke here!

[Ian Sane]

I think the suspend function is one of the best ideas Nintendo has ever had.  Not only can you save your spot but it prevents save state abusing.  Some games that were designed to be played in one sitting get ruined by adding save capabilities in later ports but since this is effectively just long term pausing the feel of the game remains the same.

I'd argue though that even games that can save might as well have this feature.  What if I want to suspend Super Mario 64 right at that exact moment when I'm in the middle of a level?  I think that would be a good feature as well.

[vudu]

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Originally posted by: Ian Sane
I'd argue though that even games that can save might as well have this feature.  What if I want to suspend Super Mario 64 right at that exact moment when I'm in the middle of a level?  I think that would be a good feature as well.

It's very helpful for Donkey Kong Country.  Save spots are far and few between and sometimes you can't go back to an old save spot via Funky's Airplane service until you get pretty far into a given world.

I was stuck on the second half of Snow Barrel Blast for like 40 lives; it took me three play sessions to finally get past it.  I forgot how much I hate that level.

[Artimus]

Welcome to November!

[KDR_11k]

Anyone who calls this news should have RTFM.

[NinGurl69 *huggles]

You're wrong, you're supposed to have a 30min tutorial phase at the beginning of each game while it plays bad rock music.

[joedick]

Any games other than Mario 64 that don't use the suspend feature?

[optimisticlimbo]

Mario Kart 64 doesn't have it.  I think it's because the instant save would be large or too easily corrupted because of the number of variables going on at any moment in a 64 game.  Just a theory because we all know of the other things out there.

[KDR_11k]

Mupen 64 supports savestates and rerecording so it can't be that complicated.

[The Omen]

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
Anyone who calls this news should have RTFM.

What?

[KDR_11k]

RTFM

[The Omen]

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Originally posted by: KDR_11k
RTFM

Thanks for that.  Though it would have been funnier if you posted that when the thread was actually started...say about 3 months ago.


I simply bumped it since somebody brought it up in another thread 2 f'n days ago.  So sorry.

So perhaps next time you will RTMFFP.
 

[King of Twitch]

you know the red button on the remote can turn the system on and off

[KDR_11k]

I didn't have WiFi and therefore no VC games to look into the manual of back when this was posted. Now I've seen the manuals and they have a full page on how this works.

[Strell]

The basic idea is this:

If it supports in game saving, then it does in game saving.  Example: Mario 64.  If I get a star, when I save in the game, it's just like the N64 cart.  So if I go from 8-12 stars and quit the game after saving, and then load it up again, it goes to the regular menu/profile screen, and I can choose profile 1, which has 12 stars.  The other profiles retain their own information.

If it's a game like Zelda [NES], it's kind of like save stating, but not as deliberate.  I.e., looks like I can save at certain points by using the Home button to close out of the game.  I think these are arbitrarily determined by Nintendo, and would function in ways you might imagine.  I.e., in Zelda [NES], the last door you went through (this tends to be a dungeon for me).  In Kid Icarus, it's the beginning of the last level you quit/died out of.  

Correct me if I'm wrong.  I think someone already said basically this in this thread anyway.

[BranDonk Kong]

It would be really nice (and easy), but it would come at the cost of a little bit of flash memory space, if they incorporated savestates. I've always hated when you play a game, such as Mario 64, and say you get to Bowser in one of his levels and you die (which is rare, I'll admit), but instead of starting over at Bowser with whatever your status was when you reached him before, you have to play the entire level again. Unnecessary repetition sucks.

[IceCold]

Those levels are so much fun though!

[KDR_11k]

Where it works it makes an EXACT save of the game state, no throwing you back at the beginning of levels or something. Resetting some parts of the game would also make this harder to implement since you'd have to go into the game code and tag the memory areas that should be stored and the ones that need to be reset to certain values.