Topic: Official Sales Thread

[Chiller]

In theory, if you say that supply is going to be tight, more people are likely to rush out and buy it "while they have the chance."  You create a rush, as people will be afraid to miss out.  However, there is no shortage, and all of the people rushing to get the console will be able to buy one, as will any stragglers, and anyone else who wants one.  It is a psychological device to trigger the purchase impulse in people who are pensive, or trying to hold out for some reason.  It is sort of like a kid with a toy - he may not play with it, but when he finds out someone else has it, and he doesn't, he suddenly wants it very badly.

Of course, I don't know if that is the case.  Tactics like that are a gamble, as sometimes people are dissuaded, and figure that they might as well wait it out, rather than trying to deal with lines, and such.  Given the success of the system thus far, and potentially key software releases in the near future, I am hesitant to say that Nintendo is, in fact, manufacturing shortages.  

[Chozo Ghost]

I like how the author writes: "Many reports have been coming out", and "Many analysts are stating", but he does not even cite a single source to back this up, and I've personally never heard anything like that. Have any of you?

Anyways, you can't manufacture demand with artificial shortages. Either the demand is there, or it isn't. Nintendo WANTS to sell as much of their products as possible, and they couldn't do that if they restricted the supply. If these "dirty tricks" worked so well, then maybe Sony should create an artificial shortage with the PS3.

Unfortunately for Sony, even a limited piece of crap is still a piece of crap.

[Chiller]

Wasn't Sony already accused of manufacturing shortages during the heyday of PS2 sales?  

It isn't really about creating demand, either, but about provoking a reactionary response from fences-sitters.  In essence they would be maximizing the demand that is already there by making people paranoid about missing out.  "Act now: supplies are limited."

Like I said, though, I have doubts that Nintendo would engaging in this strategy, at least intentionally, as it is generally not well regarded by consumers.  If people are making it out that way, it could be misinterpretation of strong sales predictions on the part of Nintendo, and a less optimistic outlook about their production capabilities.

[BigJim]

LOLz at that article. If by "analysts" and "reports" he means "SDF" and "bitching" then it's true.

Take if for what you will, but I've heard that Wii has been in shorter supply lately and shipment orders have been delayed, supposedly to accommodate a hardware update that thwarts modchips... which goes hand-in-hand with the summer software update. Supply should "normalize" by November (though will probably still be constrained).

If true that would explain the sales slowdown lately. It's a necessary evil, and the best time to do it. So I don't think they're artificially inflating a shortage.  

[Louieturkey]

Hey look'the DS is ahead of the PSP again.  Good times.

[SalesBot]

Media Create Oct. 1st - 7th

01./00. [PS2] Dragon Ball Z: Sparking! Meteor (Bandai-Namco) - 203,828 / New!
02./00. [PSP] Gundam Battle Chronicle (Bandai-Namco) - 86,208 / New!
03./00. [DS] Archaic Sealed Heat (Nintendo) - 49,678 / New!
04./00. [Wii] Dragon Ball Z: Sparking! Meteor (Bandai-Namco) - 39,708 / New!
05./00. [PS2] Jikkyou Powerful Major League 2 (Konami) - 34,577 / New!
06./02. [DS] Pokémon Mysterious Dungeon: Time Expedition Party (Pokémon) - 34,428 / 475,000
07./03. [PSP] Crisis Core: Final Fantasy VII (Square-Enix) - 30,353 / 680,000
08./05. [DS] Pokémon Mysterious Dungeon: Shadow Expedition Party (Pokémon) - 28,513 / 418,000
09./07. [DS] Kanji Test 2 (Rocket Co.) - 22,755 / 51,000
10./04. [DS] Tamagotchi no Puchi-Puchi Omisecchi: Thanks Everybody! (Bandai-Namco) - 19,626 / 74,000


11./00. [DS] Taiko Drum Master DS (Bandai-Namco)New!
12./10. [PSP] Metal Gear Solid Portable Ops+ (Konami)
13./14. [Wii] Mario Party 8 (Nintendo)
14./17. [DS] My Housekeeping Diary (Nintendo)
15./18. [DS] Mario Kart DS (Nintendo)
16./19. [DS] New Super Mario Bros. (Nintendo)
17./15. [Wii] Mario Strikers Charged (Nintendo)
18./16. [DS] English Test DS (Rocket Co.)
19./28. [DS] Animal Crossing Wild World (Nintendo)
20./21. [DS] Flash Focus: Vision Training in Minutes a Day (Nintendo)

21./26. [DS] More Brain Age (Nintendo)
22./20. [Wii] Wii Sports (Nintendo)
23./22. [Wii] Wii Play (Nintendo)
24./00. [PS2] Guitar Freaks & Drum Mania, V3 (Konami)New!
25./09. [PS3] The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion (Spike)
26./00. [PS2] Bakumatsu Renka: Karyuu Kenshi-den (D3 Publisher)New!
27./00. [PS2] Future GPX Cyber Formula: Road to the Infinity 4 (Sunrise Interactive)New!
28./33. [DS] More English Training (Nintendo)
29./34. [DS] Brain Age (Nintendo)
30./06. [PS2] Bleach: Blade Battlers 2nd (Sony)


31./00. [Wii] Jikkyou Powerful Major League 2 Wii (Konami)New!
32./25. [DS] Final Fantasy Crystal Chronicles: Ring of Fates (Square-Enix)
33./08. [PSP] Yu-Gi-Oh! Duel Monsters GX: Tag Force 2 (Konami)
34./13. [PS2] Hisshou Pachinko/Pachislo Capture Series, Vol. 11: Neon Genesis Evangelion: My Devotion to You (D3 Publisher)
35./32. [DS] Phoenix Wright 3 (Capcom)
36./01. [360] Halo 3 (Microsoft)
37./27. [DS] Home Teacher Hitman Reborn! DS: Flame Rumble 2 (Takara-Tomy)
38./38. [PSP] Monster Hunter Portable 2nd (Capcom)
39./12. [PS2] Phantasy Star Universe: Ambition of the Illuminus (Sega)
40./11. [PSP] The Legend of Heroes: Locus of the Sky SC (Falcom)

41./36. [DS] The Legend of Zelda: Phantom Hourglass (Nintendo)
42./43. [DS] Donkey Kong: Jungle Climber (Nintendo)
43./47. [DS] English Training (Nintendo)
44./30. [Wii] MySims (EA)
45./40. [PS2] Grand Theft Auto: Liberty City Stories (Capcom)
46./00. [DS] Pokémon Diamond (Pokémon)New!
47./31. [PS2] Another Century's Episode 3: The Final (Banpresto)
48./48. [DS] Common Knowledge Training (Nintendo)
49./41. [PS3] Hot Shots Golf 5 (Sony)
50./23. [PS3] Record of Agarest War (Compile Heart)

DS - 23
PS2 - 10
Wii - 7
PSP - 6
PS3 - 3
360 - 1

Hardware - This Week | Last Week | YTD | LTD
1. DS - 87,535 | 72,925 | 5,577,991 | 19,583,670
2. PSP - 86,895 | 102,809 | 1,948,215 | 6,480,344
3. Wii - 20,704 | 24,143 | 2,715,258 | 3,634,901
4. PS3 - 10,822 | 13,105 | 722,930 | 1,180,488
5. PS2 - 10,446 | 12,980 | 607,361 | 20,762,220
6. 360 - 1,547 | 5,215 | 152,336 | 417,038
7. GBA - 242 | 319 | 48,099 | 15,346,178
8. GC - 109 | 73 | 9,894 | 4,179,362

GBA = 0 GBA + 195 SP + 47 Micro
NDS = 90 DS + 87,445 Lite  

# of Games Sold by System (Currently in no order):
Wii- 7 games
DS- 23 games
PS3- 3 games
PS2- 10 games
PSP- 6 games
XBox 360- 1 game

Number of New Games: 11 games

# First Party Games Split by Company:
Nintendo: 20
Sony: 2
Microsoft: 1

First to Third Party Number and Ratios by Company:
10 out of 30 or 33% of games Published for a Nintendo System were 3rd Party.
17 out of 19 or 89% of games Published for a Sony System were 3rd Party.
0 out of 1 or 0% of games Published for a Microsoft System were 3rd Party.
Legend:
Game- Nintendo System
Game- Sony System
Game- Microsoft System
Disclaimer: All of the above non-Media Create links and data were auto-generated from the Media Create Data.  Therefore the accuracy of the links have not been verified.

[BlackNMild2k1]

Too bad Wii sales have slowed down to the pace of some of PS3's best weeks, cause I thought The Wii would've passed the GC LTD by now, or atleast be really really close to it.

500k to go.

[Kenology]

Question for BlackNMild, Salesbot, or whoever knows...  how much did the N64 sell in the U.S. (LTD), Japan (LTD), and worldwide (LTD)?  I'm just curious and this is the most appropriate thread to ask.  Thanks.  

[Nemo]

http://vgchartz.com/worldcons.php  (only accurate up to March 2007 so don't look at current consoles)

N64 sold 5.5 million in Japan, 20.63 in the Americas, 32.93 million worldwide

[Kenology]

Thanks Nemo.

[BranDonk Kong]

Hmmm...a few sites are reporting that the 360 may have beaten the Wii for September (5 weeks) - 520,000 to 496,000, with PS3 getting 170,000. It should be noted that DS sold an estimated 620,000 as well. I believe they're using VGChartz' estimates, but they seem to be getting more credible these days. Don't take it for certain, but don't be surprised if Halo 3 was a Wii-killer, at least for a month.

[ShyGuy]

TIME TO START PANICKING

http://gonintendo.com/?p=27321

[Bill Aurion]

They only have to hold out for two more weeks! (Mario Galaxy)

But seriously, what a way to be over-dramatic...The Japanese aren't playing ANY console besides DS...

[ShyGuy]

um, I was using clever satire... Or were you talking about GoNintendo?

[Kenology]

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Originally posted by: Brandogg
Hmmm...a few sites are reporting that the 360 may have beaten the Wii for September (5 weeks) - 520,000 to 496,000, with PS3 getting 170,000. It should be noted that DS sold an estimated 620,000 as well. I believe they're using VGChartz' estimates, but they seem to be getting more credible these days. Don't take it for certain, but don't be surprised if Halo 3 was a Wii-killer, at least for a month.

I wouldn't be suprised if all that were true.  It's funny because many of us thought we wouldn't see a spike in 360 hardware because the people who would buy Halo 3 already owned the system.  I think it'll be neck and neck in October too for Wii and 360.  But I expect the Wii to dominate in November and December for sure.

[Bill Aurion]

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Originally posted by: ShyGuy
um, I was using clever satire... Or were you talking about GoNintendo?

GoNintendo, sorry...

[Deguello]

GoNintendo is a blight upon the internet.

[Chozo Ghost]

Quote
Originally posted by: Brandogg
Hmmm...a few sites are reporting that the 360 may have beaten the Wii for September (5 weeks) - 520,000 to 496,000, with PS3 getting 170,000. It should be noted that DS sold an estimated 620,000 as well. I believe they're using VGChartz' estimates, but they seem to be getting more credible these days. Don't take it for certain, but don't be surprised if Halo 3 was a Wii-killer, at least for a month.

If that's true it is kinda sad for Microsoft. Halo 3 is their biggest gun, and even with that they can only barely rise above the Wii for a single month?

Even if the 360 has won this month, I think its safe to say it won't win next month. The Wii is sorta in the doldrums right now, but when Galaxy comes out it will snap out of it.

[Nemo]

520,000 to 496,000?

But the Wii is still selling out in America, right? So, if it only sold 496,000 it's because that's all that Nintendo allotted, right? It's possible Nintendo could have outsold MicroSoft if they had enough hardware, but in any case both companies are doing pretty well.  

[BlackNMild2k1]

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Originally posted by: Nemo
520,000 to 496,000?

But the Wii is still selling out in America, right? So, if it only sold 496,000 it's because that's all that Nintendo allotted, right? It's possible Nintendo could have outsold MicroSoft if they had enough hardware, but in any case both companies are doing pretty well.

Where are you getting these #'s from? VGChartz?

well I'm glad you documented it so we can see if they change after NPD releases this thursday  

[BranDonk Kong]

Well if VGChartz is correct, the 360's been slowing GAINING each week, from 76k, to 89k, to 103k, to 123k, to 130k. It's true that they're probably only ahead because Nintendo doesn't have the surplus of systems that Microsoft does. Look like Japan's not getting any consoles next month.

[BranDonk Kong]

Well now I'm reading another estimate (guesstimate) that puts Wii at 485,000, Xbox 360 at 423,000, and PS3 at 164,000. I guess we'll just have to wait for official NPD numbers.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=29662
They also predict MP3 to have 267,000 for the month, which, in addition to August, would already put it past Metroid Prime 2's total sales, I believe, at about 490,000 thus far.

[Kairon]

I personally believe that the XBox 360 WILL slightly outsell the Wii in NA this NPD period. VG Chartz has been tracking the XBox 360 over the Wii these past 3 weeks, and I think it'll turn out that the XBox 360 was able to move enough stock to rise above the constantly sold-out Wii, whose sales will remain high, as normal.

It'll be real interesting to see PSP sales though, and I hope that Metroid Prime 3 will continue to have decent sales all through the holiday season... i.e., legs.

[Nemo]

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Originally posted by: BlackNMild2k1

Where are you getting these #'s from? VGChartz?

I'm getting the numbers from Brandogg's post. Probably not the most reliable source, but I still think my question is good. If the 360 outsells Wii by a little bit, we can only wonder how things would have panned out if there were enough Wiis on store shelves to fulfill demand.

[Luigi Dude]

Quote
Originally posted by: Brandogg
Well now I'm reading another estimate (guesstimate) that puts Wii at 485,000, Xbox 360 at 423,000, and PS3 at 164,000. I guess we'll just have to wait for official NPD numbers.
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/content_page.php?aid=29662
They also predict MP3 to have 267,000 for the month, which, in addition to August, would already put it past Metroid Prime 2's total sales, I believe, at about 490,000 thus far.

Not yet, Metroid Prime 2 sold 1.27 million copies worldwide.

North America - 830,000
Europe - 370,000
Japan - 70,000

Prime 3 is selling better it's first two months then Prime 2 did so that's a good sign, but it still has a little ways to go before surpassing Prime 2.  If it can continue to average around 200,000 for October, November and December in North America or have a great launch in Europe then it will surpass Prime 2 by the end of the year.