Better to increase the pixel size than the pixel count IF your graphic contents will never utilize the extra resolution, I'd say (ie. no real horsepower upgrade, DS continuing to be plain-old DS).  Scaling sucks.  SD on HDTV is awful smudgy-wudginess; 50" of native 480p was a beautiful thing, but the freaking industry took a step forward while taking a step back, fer cryin' out loud.

And your comparison shot doesn't accurately get your point across.  The pixel interpolation generated by the image scaling has introduced degredation.  IF increasing the DS screen size means increasing the physical pixel size, then a better real-world example would be holding up the actual DS Lite closer to your eyeballs to enlarge the image, or, use a magnifying lens.  You could've just posted an official DS game screenshot and asked us to stick our faces closer to our monitors to get the desirable effect.

I think it's mostly my source image that caused the degradation.  I was doing proper scaling for the most part.  If anything, my images look better than what you'd actually see because it's possible that "steps" could be created in the scaling... but i guess that's the smoothing you are rallying against.

It's true holding the DS closer gets that effect, and holding the DS closer causes the image to break down.  The same can be said for sitting too close to a digital projector.  When you can start to count the pixels, that's all you see... not the image they are trying to create.

None of that hides the fact that Nintendo is counting on consumer ignorance with "tricks" like this.  It would be a ridiculous claim to say that this rumored DS screen is "as good" as the iPhone's screen because they are the same size in inches.

Pro, when you are shopping for a computer monitor, what do you value more? size in inches or maximum native resolution?

Obviously, I always look for both, but I would buy a 21" monitor over a 24" monitor if the 21 pushed a higher resolution.

If this new DSi is targeted towards older players then who cares what Mario & Luigi looks like?  These people aren't going to buy that game.  Show me Brain Age or Cooking Training or Crosswords DS.  These games are going to be easy for your mom to read on a larger screen.  Resolution on these games really doesn't matter nearly as much as size.

"It's true holding the DS closer gets that effect, and holding the DS closer causes the image to break down.  The same can be said for sitting too close to a digital projector."

Yes, the width of the margins between each pixel become more noticeable, giving outline-definitions to the squares.  But really, that's holding the darn thing TOO close.  Treating the current screen like the proposed 4" screen is a matter of moving it a couple inches closer (maybe less than that), and keeping practical, we shouldn't be holding it to our face close enough to stab our eyes with the stylus; IT'S FINE at elbow's length, slightly bigger pixels or not, closer than that would be optically uncomfortable for me.  Just my assumption, if the pixels are manufactured to be larger, I don't think those margins would increase, therefore not magnifying the bad bits.

"When you can start to count the pixels, that's all you see... not the image they are trying to create."

How on earth did we get past the 320x240 MS-DOS age?  Game Boy Tetris?  How on earth are we still playing 8/16-bit games on our 50"+ TVs?

"It would be a ridiculous claim to say that this rumored DS screen is "as good" as the iPhone's screen because they are the same size in inches."

No argument here.  That's a marketing issue.  I'm zeroing in on whether bigger pixels means worse images; a flexible balance exists.  With regards to a new DS Game Player introduced to be a DS Game Player and NOT a web-browsing-GPS-smarty-cam-phone, consumer ignorance shrinks as an issue if consumer comfort is already met.

"Pro, when you are shopping for a computer monitor, what do you value more? size in inches or maximum native resolution?"

I was about to say PRICE, cuz the high-rez movement has been kicking dirt in my face for several years.  I'm trying to enjoy and work with video happily on a CRT for the sake of viewing video closer to their native resolutions so that I can achieve a comfy viewing size and maintain pixel-accuracy.  Then the HD movement comes along, with super-rez and smaller pixels without exception, and now all videos are suddenly smaller than post-it notes (standard text is even smaller now) such that I have to suddenly scale up more than 3-4X to fill up my screen (for comfy viewing), throwing interpolated junk pixels at me when I'm trying to analyze the image content?

I upgraded from a CRT this past January only cuz the <$200 deals on 22" 2ms 1080p LCDs started trickling down.  Industry, jump off a cliff.

The whole thesis of my post is based off the fact that one of the reasons floating around in the rumors is to compete with the PSP and iPhone screens.  If the sole reason for this new version is to fill a niche with old people, then yeah, I withdraw my argument.


To Pro:
Yeah it sucks for you because of all the work you've done on video over the past several years, but in the magical world where you did all that with a higher res version, wouldn't that make for a better viewing experience now?

I feel for your specific pain, but not letting go of the past is one of the technology industries greatest flaws.  It's the companies willing to throw stuff out that are gaining the most ground.

Apple threw out OS 9.

Nintendo threw out the traditional controller.

I am happy that we are in the process of "throwing out" standard definition.  While it can be frustrating now, it will make for a better looking future. =P  That's why I get so frustrated when I feel like Nintendo is ok with incremental upgrades in that regard.

This was the rumor before the DSi was announced.  They rumored that a new larger screen DS was going to be released for the older crowd (ie 50 and above) so they could see the screen better.  They may have ditched that in favor of the DSi but are getting the same complaints from the older demos and are going to now do this with the DSi instead.

I really don't think they will replace the current DSi with this new model.  I don't think there would be much point actually. 

I donno, larger screens sound pretty sweet to me.

This really isn't anything weird form Nintendo, remember the brighter screen GBA SP that was released shortly after the GBA SP? Nintendo just does this stuff with their handhelds.

"Yeah it sucks for you because of all the work you've done on video over the past several years, but in the magical world where you did all that with a higher res version, wouldn't that make for a better viewing experience now?"

Dunno, magical world costs MEGA$$$ in upgrades.  Higher rez means increased horsepower, increased file size, and increased bandwidth requirement, and therefore increased costs.  Part of my user-comfort/"good enough" tech philosophy is keep convenience up and costs down.  If the costs for the high-spec content reaches convenience, then the low-spec content is even MORE convenient and even cheaper -- why abandon that?

"I feel for your specific pain, but not letting go of the past is one of the technology industries greatest flaws.  It's the companies willing to throw stuff out that are gaining the most ground."

"2D" gaming might be a thing of the past, but it's proven to still be practical to this day.  Let's throw that out, why don't we.

Sony threw out physical, easy-swap in/out media for the PSP Go.  Nice one.

Sony threw out backwards compatibility for the PS3.  Nice one.

Nintendo threw out the traditional controller?  This is the WORST time to mention that!  The Wii Remote is one of the MOST traditional controllers today, just rotated to a different angle and given a 6million Dollar Man bionic upgrade so that it looks like the old thing but has a new Magick Murder Bag of tricks.  Nintendo's BIGGEST game this season is a 2D platformer that hardly uses motion magick and tells users it's OK to play games from a couch again (!).  Motion Plus, their "big" advancement, is old news at this point given the drought of products that could've utilized it (!).  Their MAJOR 3rd party partnership with Capcom went as far as promoting some CLASSIC CONTROLLER of all things alongside the biggest Wii 3rd party game of the year (!), painting a picture of what the primary interface should be.

I guess Nintendo is abandoning the Wii Remote to succeed, causing my message to fall apart.


I went to the post office during lunch break to pickup a package.  I opened it and it turns the ebay seller from JAPAN shipped me the wrong item.  I am PISSED PISSED PISSED PISSED PISSED PISSED PISSED PISSED PISSED PISSED PISSED PISSED PISSED PISSED PISSED.

Higher resolutions are in no way synonymous with losing all those things you said.  Also, throwing out physical media IS a great decision for the PSP Go, there are just other issues with how they are doing that transition.

The past is the past.  The future is THE FUTURE!

=P

I just don't understand how you can really make an argument that hanging on to ancient technologies is a good thing.  That's one thing about all your posts on this subject I will never be able to comprehend.  Why abandon lower price points?  Because the higher price points are BETTER!

If someone can afford X dollars now and super fancy better technology costs 2X dollars, they obviously won't get it.

When super fancy better technology costs X dollars and the original technology costs .5X dollars they can afford both, why not get something that is better?

I mean, why do you even have a Wii now?  If you stuck with NES you would have been able to cheaply play hundreds and hundreds of games over the past 20 years.

Pale I agree with everyone you said, and you made some excellent pints.

That being said do older japanese population have larger sums of disposable income?

Maybe i'm looking at it in the eyes of an American, but upgrading technology and old people are not known for being one and the same. 

The bigger screens would be nicer, but why would they burn money upgrading when the unit they might already have that currently works just fine.

I don't see an issue with this idea.  They're just trying to make sure their platform is open to whomever.  Please note that it'll also be easier to utilize the touch screen at this size, too, since buttons on it, as well as other things, will be larger.  They're not charging a higher price for it, if the rumor is true.  This is literally an issue of non-importance if you don't need a new screen, and the amount of time Nintendo is investing in the thing has to be abysmal for such a minor update.

So really, I think this is a matter where we should ask ourselves "Why don't we get it?"  As in, why can't we understand that we don't particularly have to care about this new version of the DS, as this type of consumer.

Unfortunately, this doesn't apply to Pale, since he's a gaming journalist, but with most anyone else, I don't see why we'd care, and I don't see why we can't just let Nintendo do it and just forget about it.

I'm personally holding out for a five inch screen.

Now we're talkin'.  It would display Wing Commander II with perfect fidelity.

Give it a break.  I love the Gameboy Player on my Gamecube!  I know we'll probably never get anything to play DS on a TV screen so I'm definitely looking forward to anything with a larger screen.  If Nintendo wants to increase the screen every six months it's okay with me!

oh yeah... one more thing...  If we are so worried about graphic resolution then why are most of us playing the Wii?  It's not the pixel resolution that counts!

Remember these creatures?

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/shyguy70/mg503.jpg

They make her boobs bigger?

ok, setting aside all the technical jargon I think just that Nintendo may be releasing yet another partial successor to the DS only a year after the last one is reason enough to think Nintendo "doesn't get it".  But hey, I suppose if people like buying new iPhones every year maybe it's not so crazy for Nintendo to allegedly try and milk the DSi even more.

Just like the Game Boy Micro was a partial successor to the GBA, eh?

Oh wait, these are just alternatives, and none-more expensive.  Buy it if you want, don't buy it if you don't want, but why really care?  Virtually no R&D went into this.  I can't figure out why it's such a big deal!

I am willing to give Nintendo the benefit of the doubt here.  They must have at least checked how the bigger screens would affect the older games and see if anything can be done to prevent any issues.

I also have to agree with thatguy in that a big deal has been done over this. This is still just a rumor, with no evidence of how the screens would look. At this time, all we are doing is arguing over something that is non-existent.

I don't even mean that it's a rumor.  I just mean that if it's true, so what?  This literally means nothing.  Anyone with a DSi won't be missing out on anything, and chances are, unless you have some issues viewing small things up close or reading, you'd probably want to stick to the DSi's screen as it is now.  There's just about zero reason for us to care about this... What?  We don't want our grandparents to be able to enjoy games now?

I just don't even see the point in talking about this as a forum member.  This should be good news.  I was hoping to see something like headlines of "Nintendo could be looking to make the DSi more accessible." Or at least something like that.  I do agree with Pale, to an extent, because if you've got a DSi, you've got no reason to want this.  But... Just because you don't want something doesn't mean it's a bad thing.  It's like someone with a white Wii complaining about the new black model, saying how it'll show dust and dirt more than the white one.  Yeah, everyone knows that already, but some people like different colors.  It's not for the people with the original color, it's for people who like it, and both can get along just fine.

Wow.  Totally forgot I had that!  Playing games through that thing made me queasy for some reason.

Again, I want to emphasize that really the entire assumption/concern behind this post is that Nintendo will be doing this to "compete" with iPhone and PSP and will be replacing the current DSi with it... ie Stop manufacturing the current DSi.

As I said before, if it does end up just being a niche product, I withdraw my statement that they don't get it.  I just think it's a valid concern that they think increasing the pixel size is all it takes to appear to be on an even keel (from a technological standpoint) with the PSP and the iPhone.

Where did you hear that this move is to "compete" with the other devices?

What I heard primarily was that a supposed new DSi model with have larger screens and larger buttons (making the system and the pixels bigger, yes) for ease of use for older people.

These people do NOT own a PSP or iPhone, and are probably not considering getting one. The DSi meanwhile features plenty of worthwhile distractions for the elderly, and a slightly larger machine altogether just might be what they needed.

I'm pretty convinced no-one has been expecting this to actually be a "new" DS.

At the risk of repeating myself, in all the rumors I read there were two possible reasons for the device discussed... one was for older people, and the other was to better compete with other devices that feature larger screens.  Again, I was focused on the assumption that the latter will prove true.

/sigh.

i want to throw something into the fire (hat? whatever your metaphor)

i don't think nintendo is competing with the PSP, and certainly not the iPhone with the DS. i think it is the other way around. The DS has such a strangle on the handheld market that as long as they don't screw  up the DS2 (tegra!) things will go just fine for big N.

this is NOT to say that the iPhone and PSP aren't doing well, aren't competing, etc. but there are two things to remember:

first the iphone as a handheld gaming competition is nearly a joke. Bad battery life, no buttons, etc, etc. sure the games will look nice, but could you imagine platforming with accelerometers? it is one thing on the Wii where there is separation of screen and control, but when you have to keep your eyes on the controller as you 'waggle' ain't a pretty thing. civ, soduku and even driving games, sure. but FPS (not impossible) and platformers, not so much. (touching the screen to fire? now i can't see what's going on!) (disclaimer, i am an apple fan boy)

handheld games have one advantage over console games. no one seems to think it odd to have an iphone and a DS and a PSP. hell i have a DSi and a gameboy micro in my travel bag at all times. they compete against each other, but then they don't.

just MHO.

Once again, I repeat GBA SP with brighter screens replacing the old GBA SP. Nintendo does stuff like this, it isn't a big deal.

Well GP, that is EXACTLY what I'm afraid of.  I don't want them to replace the DSi with what I think will be an inferior product.

I know I don't have to buy one, but I would if mine broke.  And regardless, the blog was meant more looking at Nintendo's philosophies as a whole and how this would be an example of them missing the boat.

The only way I'll withdraw my complaint is if the current DSi continues to be manufactured.

Ya know, I would buy a new DSi that had 2 inch screens and was a heck of a lot smaller! =P

We'll see, my guess though is by the time this comes out the new handheld will be announced so it will be pretty much a mute point. I doubt it is to compete with iPhone, while there may be marketing speak floating around with that connotation I think it is really about the older audience. Though you don't want to market something as being for old, almost legally blind people.

We'll see how the screens look though when playing a game. I will say if history is any indication it WILL replace the current DSi whether any of us like it or not.

"I doubt it is to compete with iPhone, while there may be marketing speak floating around with that connotation I think it is really about the older audience."

Those iPhone remarks had to have originated somewhere (like it was made up), obviously not from a Nintendo press release.  Another case of bad journalism?

http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?topic=29701.msg559542#msg559542

What if the new DSi actually upscales the image instead of just stretching it to fit the screen? Would you withdraw your comment then?

I know that's unlikely to happen, but it is a "what if" situation.

BNM:  upscaling and stretching are, effectively, the same thing; "upscaling" has a more specific computational implication

~~~~~

OK from BNM's news post we can track info coming from an article by Anoop Gantayat (*IGN* Japan correspondent a decade ago, I do remember his name; suspicious journalism) who is REPORTING on a Nihon Keizai Shimbun REPORT.
http://www.andriasang.com/e/blog/2009/10/27/nintendo_ds_push/
and the key quote:
--"With the larger screen size, Nintendo aims to expand use for the system to movies and digital books, and also spur demand amongst older audiences who might have considered the current screen hard to see. It also hopes to fend off stronger competition from Sony and Apple."

Elsewhere is a Reuters article that references the Nikkei Business Daily paper,
http://www.reuters.com/article/CMPTRS/idUST31442220091027
with the key quotes:
--"The new version will have a screen larger than 4 inches, which would put it roughly on a par with the screen on Sony Corp's (6758.T) PlayStation portable game player, the NIKKEI said."
--"A bigger screen alone does not count for much," said KBC *SECURITIES* *ANALYST* Hiroshi KAMIDE, adding that Nintendo needs better graphics quality and a more powerful chip to run multimedia-type games and become more competitive.  "Nintendo is under pressure from iPhone and iTouch."
--"Nintendo's hand-held, which now has a 3.25-inch screen, is struggling against competition from Apple Inc's (AAPL.O) iPhone, whose screen is about the same size." 


I don't know the exact source of the Nihon and the Nikkei, but I have a hunch that the Nihon report based on the Nikkei report, as I don't know where Nihon's Sony/Apple comments come from (LOL NOW I'M THE REPORTER WHO'S MAKING STUFF UP NOW).  To further fart on this confusing cloud of stinky journalism, Sean Malstrom is saying Kamide is an idiot, an analyst who is commenting on a field he's not versed in.
http://seanmalstrom.wordpress.com/2009/10/28/the-collapse-of-american-journalism/


Really, Internet.  Am I to believe the standard for online journalism is GoNintendo's Report about a Report about a Report now?

WHen has DS been struggling against anything?

Ever since it launched, according to the media. i am serious

Struggling against it's own success. Lets' just hope that the DSi doesn't turn to drugs and alcohol like so many other success stories do.

So that settles it.  With the evidence gathered, the purpose of the new DS screen is to compete with DVD players and portable digi-music playing devices.

The screen-scaling issue will definitely make DSi's current GPS navigation capabilities worse.

How long until Zap creates a thread in the Funhouse titled Why Pale Doesn't Get It (Regarding New DS Rumor)?

One important feature of the current DS resolution is that each screen (individually) nearly matches the physical resolution of the NES/SNES games (the screens have slightly fewer vertical pixels since they adhere to a more strict 4:3 ratio than the original consoles). If they did increase the screen size, I would expect them to become slightly taller to fully match this size, or wider (much like GBC->GBA), maybe both.

For 3-D games, they could also render the graphics at a higher resolution (say 640:480), then shrink them down to achieve interobject antialiasing (I've theorized HD consoles may end up doing this if TV resolutions don't increase). This would make the graphics look better by reducing the harsh edges at the edge of polygons.

There's so much rumor and speculation, and lack of opportunity for casual-bashing that I don't even know what to comment on.

Nihon Keizai Shimbun IS Nikkei.

If you want the original report, our own Matt Walker translated it for our story:

Nintendo to beef up portable game device in lieu of competition, Resistance to Apple in America

Nintendo is to beef up it's portable game device, the 'Nintendo DSi' both in country and overseas. Their latest device, the 'DSi' is be improved upon with larger screens and introduced into the domestic market within the year. The move is being done in order to stir up demand among older consumers as well as their younger, core audience. In 2009 Nintendo introduced their DSi with better restrictions against pirated software that had been fond in China and Korea. The device is to be expanded upon to compete with Sony and Apple who have been quickly catching up to Nintendo

One year after the DSi was first released to wild success it's sales have come to a slump. Monthly sales have leveled off at 1/3rd of what they were at their peak. Introducing a new device and new features will stimulate new sales.

The current DSi's screens are approximately 3.2 inches, nearly identical to that of Apple's popular 'iPhone'. The new variation of the DSi will feature screens that are closer to the size of Sony Computer Entertainment's portable game device, the 'Playstation Portable' at over 4 inches, and will be nearly twice the size of the screens of the current DSi.

Knee + Kay =

I said, Wow.

Now all Nintnedo needs to do is put in a phone app and they are in business.

Ok, so the LL has been announced, and it doesn't appear to be a "replacement" so that's good.

But just to drive my point home of why Nintendo needs to start realizing that resolution matters, I crunched some more numbers this morning.

So the critical number I am looking at is PPI, or pixels per inch.  I think the iPhone has a beautiful screen, so we will be using that as a baseline for what is possible in a device that small.  It has a PPI of 163.

The DSi, has a PPI of 98.  That's just 60% of what the iPhone does.

Now, this DSi LL has a PPI of 76. UGH! That's just 47%!

Want to see a rough example of what a 47% difference looks like?

http://mikegamin.com/temp/DSLLvsiPhone.png

But like I said, I will stop freaking out now that it appears it is not a replacement for the DSi.  I just hope Nintendo takes the hint with their next portable, and has a competitive PPI.

That's just terrible, Pale!  That's a seriously "wrong" picture, in many senses, a silly photoshop trick in order to manipulate things in an attempt to make your point more valid:

If you were doing a decent comparison, you'd stretch out the picture so that image A would be much smaller than image B, but every pixel would still be represented.  Instead, you just decreased the number of pixels in image B, without any respect or concern to the fact that Image A and B should have the same number of pixels.  The only thing accurate about image B is the size of the pixels, but as I said, the method you used isn't a suitable comparison at all!

What you did before, resizing the screens, was a much more accurate representation, and in most cases, the resolution:screen size ratio is something that doesn't look bad from the distance most people feel comfortable playing the DS, anyways.

You aren't making any sense.  The comparison is totally valid.  It is assuming two screens of equal physical size but differing PPI with a source image of a set resolution, that resolution being the image on the left.

If the image is displayed on a screen of lower resolution, (the image on the right) that screen has to interpolate what each pixel would be, thus lowering the resolution of the image.

I think you are the confused one here.

The DSi LL isn't a screen of lower resolution, though, Pale, and you know it.  The fair representation would be to show that the screen is of equal resolution, yet is a larger size.  Since the DSi LL is of the same resolution as the DSi, there is no pixel loss, unlike what is represented in your straw-man argument.  The fact is, the two screens are not of equal size.  Trying to give a representation that assumes the two screens are equal size misrepresents the volume of pixels.

What I'm saying is you're mock-up heavily implies that the DSi LL will cause pixel loss, as your picture represents.  This is simply untrue in every facet of the idea.

Of course you're comparing it to the iPhone, but an image that consists of 150x150 pixels is an image that consists of 150x150 pixels, regardless of the PPI.  The reasoning is still faulty to represent it any other way.

Ugh, please read it again.  I'm comparing DS LL to the iPhone... basically summing up my argument as to why I want the next Nintendo portable to use a technologically relevant screen.

To respond to your ninja edit... even though you misread originally, you can't just decide that's its irrelevant.  The overall resolution of the image doesn't matter.

It is a hypothetical situation in which two screens of the same size but drastically different PPI's display the same image.  It is an accurate representation of that.  It just so happens that the difference in PPI between those two hypothetical screens is an equivalent ratio to the difference in PPI between the DS LL and the iPhone.

This is why i never read blogs in general. Let someone comment on your personal opinion on a subject and you take it way to personal when people disagree or miss the point entirely.

Poor Pale.

I just wasn't aware that wanting Nintendo to make a device with a higher quality screen was such a terrible opinion to have.  I apologize.

The truth is, I don't want Nintendo to at this point in time, Pale.

Really, I do want a better screen, a sharp screen with tiny, itsy bitsy pixels.  I completely agree with you, that's much much better than the DS screen is at the current size.

But... I don't want it to be a minor DS upgrade, on par with the DS lite, DSi, or DSi LL.  Essentially, all I'm trying to say is I don't want to miss out just because I don't want to spend a $180-ish price tag to enter into a little segment of  a market I'm basically already in, and if Nintendo did what you wanted at this point in time, it would be all the more reason to need to, as more games would come out utilizing larger pixel dimensions, etc.

So the difference in our opinions is simply that the next DS iteration with a great, sharp screen should be a serious upgrade, or at least offer something more substantial and serious beyond a few retail titles here and there and a library of mostly mediocre download games.  If Nintendo offers a genuine successor to it's handheld lineage, then yeah, I'd love it, but that's not the DSi or the DSi LL.  These two systems, to me, are the GameBoy Color of the DS world, a needless upgrade that will be completely outperformed and outdated, in a year or two.

But the DSi LL isn't that system, and to try to do that to the screens would just segment and confuse the market, in my opinion.

If the rumors are true and the next DS is gonna use a Nvidia Tegra chip, I'm sure Nintendo will take resolution seriously since they are now acknowledging Sony & Apple as competitors now.

That scares me because I would hate to see handheld gaming go the Sony PSP route of 3D visuals for the most part over 2D.

My hope is this rumor is true. Along with the removal of the dreaded cartridge slot and then slooooowly releasing old games digitaly one week at a time. Obviously they would have to charge double but it would be well worth it.

This is the wrong attitude.  The right attitude is to hope that the system can handle great 3D, but developers and publishers stop being scared to make 2D games for a 3D capable system.

But on a system with the Tegra Chip they would be capapble of handling everything that the current VC does with the addition of GC games too.
So I hope they up the VC for the DS2 to include your current library of VC games, plus access to GB/C/A, GC games and why not convert some PC & DC games too while your at it. Nintendo should push for games from every system that is not licensed to Sony, MS and Apple.

Admit it Pale, the DSi Larger Large is hot. Hizz-ot.

http://mikegamin.com/images/avatars/impailedAvatar100x100.png

vs.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k302/shyguy70/impailedAvatar100x100.png

I agree.  Let's tear every staff member a new asshole so they stop posting here.  The forums becoming more insular will only benefit everyone!

We have to speculate on what the LL ind DSi LL satnds for.

DSi'll get Lasik Later

DSi Livin' Large

It's DSi XL in Europe and America, so my guess is LL is just what Japan uses instead of XL for clothing, etc.

XL is much easier to understand

Lewd and Lascivious?

In America, yes; but I don't think Japan uses the S, M, L, XL, XXL convention.  DSi XL wouldn't make any sense to them.

You are wrong in that assumption so i went back and clarified my post.

Wow.  The larger, more digitized Pale looks straight out of Mortal Kombat 2 for the Genesis.  This is not progress.

I just want to know if LL Cool J was consulted about this name.  How dare you diss my homey Uncle L like that?

Ladies Love the DSi too

Bumping this ancient thread to point some stuff out now that the iPhone 4 is official and the 3DS will be official next week hopefully.

The DSi XL has a PPI of 76.  I can't freaking stand looking at it.

Back when I made this rant I used the iPhone screen as a benchmark for a great screen, which has a PPI of 163.  The iPhone 4 will have...

326 Pixels Per Inch!!!.

I sincerely hope the 3DS will have at least 200 PPI in order to be somewhat relevant. If it has less than 100 I will throw up.

Methinks Pale has become a special breed of graphics whore called the "Pixel Whore"

Although, I have to give credit, I played with a DSi XL at Best Buy and it does look blocky.

I don't think anyone but tech geeks care about the number of pixels, and that's mostly irrelevant to gaming anyway. What I'd like to see is a resolution increase, to make it equal to the standard television resolution of 640x480 (or whatever widescreen is, 800x480?).

853.3333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333333x480

Why doesn't Nintendo blow me?

I mean Apple gives me 326 licks per inch (LPI), so I sincerely hope Nintendo can match that. When I bought a DSi XL, I thought it was perfect for me, but it was so ugly I had to put a bag over it.

Next you'll demand it sturdy enough to withstand your donkey punches.

There's no satisfying these tech nerds.

Just cuz I crap on it, doesn't mean I don't love it. Besides, that's why I buy saran wrap.

Instead of a DSi XL I bet you wish it was a XL DSL, then there would be nothing to complain about.

this conversation is really "deep"

It's funny you say that because the entire reason HD TV looks better than standard def is because of more lines of resolution per inch.  If all we did was make a 480p set 60% larger, it would have just looked like a huge grainy piece of crap.

They used to make televisions like that, they looked fine to me.

heheh that is true. They did used to look fine. I never liked rear projection TVs, but they had a way of making a continuous image without making it too blurry. That the thing about high intensity light though, that when theres a degree of dispersion from high intensity light, it doesn't look so bad. I never liked playing games on them though. Too blurry. One day my friend bought a rear projection tv and i scolded him, and he replaced it with an hd tv. One trick to lower resolutions is higher frame rates.