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Super Mario Maker’s Slow Unlocking Feels More Frustrating Than Fun

by Neal Ronaghan - August 18, 2015, 9:26 am EDT
Total comments: 16

While creating Mario Maker stages is wonderful and intuitive, it takes way too long to unlock all of the items and enemies.

When I first heard about Super Mario Maker’s measured rollout where you’re slowly given access to more creation tools over the course of nine days, I wasn’t fazed. Having access to all of the tools at once would be intimidating. I thought it made sense and wouldn’t be limiting. After a night with Super Mario Maker’s final build, I’m not a fan of the plodding dispersal of creation tools, even in spite of how much fun the act of creation is in the game.

When you first boot up Super Mario Maker, you only have access to the bare essentials in the classic Super Mario Bros. or modern New Super Mario Bros. U designs. You can lay out ground pieces, bricks, and question mark blocks. Your only power-up is a Super Mushroom. The only enemies are Goombas, Koopa Troopas, and Piranha Plants (though you can give them all wings if you so wish). But that’s essentially it. For anyone who played or saw the E3 2014 demo, you start off with more or less only the tools available in that early version of the game.

Don’t get me wrong: you can make some fun stuff with these tools. However, as I started designing my own stages, I kept thinking of other items or enemies that I knew were in the game that I could place in levels. I thought about how, once I unlocked Cheep Cheeps on the third day, I wanted to go back to add them to a level I was working on. I couldn’t make an underwater level. Or add in Bowser. Or a Fire Flower. Or make a Super Mario Bros. 3-themed level. I felt stymied and limited by the restrictions.

I still understand some of the logic behind slowly doling out different tools and items. Having so many options at once can be crazy overwhelming, but dragging out the release of the content over such an extended period of time just makes the game’s early goings feel laborious at times, especially as you play other creator’s levels online and see the tools they can use.

There are a few ways to get around this limitation, though. You can set your Wii U’s system clock forward to unlock more content (though you have to play roughly five minutes in the game each day to unlock that day’s content and trigger a notification for the next day’s content). So far, I’ve done that to skip ahead a few days, though I don’t know if there will be any sort of Animal Crossing-like penalty when I eventually set my system clock back to normal.

The other workaround, which doesn’t involve time-traveling, is by unlocking the premade levels playable in 10 Mario Challenge. In the mode, you play through eight different stages using only 10 lives. These stages are meant to inspire your designs, and they regularly feature functionality that you don’t have access to (or possibly didn’t even know was in the game). You can then load these stages in the stage creator and use some of the items present there. This method is the only way to use the Super Mario Bros. 3 or World designs without waiting five or more days. Even still, some elements aren’t available, namely all the goofy sound-creating effects.

When Super Mario Maker launches on the 11th of September, I trust a lot of players that are chomping at the bit to create stages are going to wind up going on a wild journey through time in the Wii U System Settings to September 20 within their first few hours with the game. Ultimately, this complaint is something that will evaporate after a week with the game, but for that first week, it feels like I’m making levels with one hand tied behind my back. The measured release of items and tools isn’t a one-size-fits-all solution that works for everyone, and it’s a sad blemish on a game that impresses so much in every other aspect I’ve experienced.

Talkback

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorAugust 18, 2015

If you're not using your Wii U for much, I wonder if it'd be worth it to go in on September 2nd, set the clock back nine days and turn the WiFi off.  Then, when SMM launches, the internal clock will say it's 9/2.  You could move it up each day to unlock everything and when you're done, it will be 9/11 and it shouldn't have any negative effects on the in-game progression - and since you didn't use your WiiU in those nine days, shouldn't negativly effect other games either.

fred13August 18, 2015

Uncle Bob, That's a great idea. I like when people think outside the box and solve problems!

Ian SaneAugust 18, 2015

So to do the exploit you have to play for a few minutes each "day" to unlock stuff.  So does that mean it isn't 9 days after you first played but 9 days of playing?  So if you played the game on the day you bought it and then went on vacation for two weeks within playing your Wii U would it consider it day 2 when you returned?!

Nintendo has a reputation for being a company that tells you what you want.  They're not good with options and flexibility and that's not a good reputation.  So while I get the idea they're going for here it's not something most players would want to deal with.  Nintendo also is at a point where it is pretty important for them to come across as having changed and improved so as to win back potential customers they've turned off... and yet here's a very unwelcome "do as we say" decision.  Over the last few years Nintendo should have looked like a company that's loosening up on restrictions, not doubling-down on them.  So the guys that are forcing us to play Mario Maker their way are the guys that we're all going to buy NX's from next year because we're suddenly convinced they're no longer the stubborn fuddy-duddies they've been for years?

So how long until we get a Project S.T.E.A.M. style patch to "fix" the intentional design that everyone but Nintendo doesn't like?

EnnerAugust 18, 2015

Yes, join the frustrated side!


I'm not sure of determining the flaws of a company's philosophies over an inconvenient 9 day process, but I'm a softball when it comes to these things.

KhushrenadaAugust 18, 2015

This is how I felt about some things in Animal Crossing: New Leaf. People are getting off easy only having to wait 9 days for everything to unlock!

MythtendoAugust 18, 2015

Quote from: Ian

So to do the exploit you have to play for a few minutes each "day" to unlock stuff.  So does that mean it isn't 9 days after you first played but 9 days of playing?  So if you played the game on the day you bought it and then went on vacation for two weeks within playing your Wii U would it consider it day 2 when you returned?!

Nintendo has a reputation for being a company that tells you what you want.  They're not good with options and flexibility and that's not a good reputation.  So while I get the idea they're going for here it's not something most players would want to deal with.  Nintendo also is at a point where it is pretty important for them to come across as having changed and improved so as to win back potential customers they've turned off... and yet here's a very unwelcome "do as we say" decision.  Over the last few years Nintendo should have looked like a company that's loosening up on restrictions, not doubling-down on them.  So the guys that are forcing us to play Mario Maker their way are the guys that we're all going to buy NX's from next year because we're suddenly convinced they're no longer the stubborn fuddy-duddies they've been for years?

So how long until we get a Project S.T.E.A.M. style patch to "fix" the intentional design that everyone but Nintendo doesn't like?

MythtendoAugust 18, 2015

Quote from: Ian

So how long until we get a Project S.T.E.A.M. style patch to "fix" the intentional design that everyone but Nintendo doesn't like?

Wah wah, I want everything unlocked right away or i'm gonna throw a temper tantrum and bitch about it.Making you unlock stuff over the course of a week is NOT a big deal. My only complaint is having to wait to use the SMB3 or SMW style, I never liked the original SMB art style and plan to rarely ever use it in Super Mario Maker.

MythtendoAugust 18, 2015

Wah wah, I want everything unlocked right away or i'm gonna throw a temper tantrum and bitch about it.

Making you unlock stuff over the course of a week is NOT a big deal. My only complaint is having to wait to use the SMB3 or SMW style, I never liked the original SMB art style and plan to rarely ever use it in Super Mario Maker.

SorenAugust 19, 2015

I think it's only fair people expect to unlock things at their own pace, and not have Nintendo set artificial road blocks for progress. The people who don't like this arbitrary unlock format are the ones who want to dive deep into the game the first few days.

broodwarsAugust 19, 2015

Well, I'm glad to see Nintendo, the perpetual Nanny State, isn't getting off so easily on this site with regards to that inane, arbitrary unlock system.

If I'm buying a game called "Super Mario Maker", a game that's based its ENTIRE marketing campaign around building crazy levels limited only by your imagination and wanton cruelty, I expect to be able to make anything I want Day 1. That's not an unwarranted or unfair expectation given that Nintendo went out of their way to SET that expectation. But I guess Nintendo just isn't satisfied unless they can treat their player base like idiots with every release.

jarodeaAugust 19, 2015

I understand the not wanting to overwhelm people from the get go attitude, especially because a lot of gamers are not Mario experts anymore, but as always I don't see why this can't be an option.  They could do it either with Basic, Intermediate, and Advance sets and you could pick which you wanted or something like SMB-1, SMB-2, NSMB-1, NSMB-2, SMB3-1, SMB3-2, etc. where items correspond to the basic items in the first part and more advance ones in the latter part of those games.  Either way, I know I will get this game at some point and I barely touch my Wii U as is so I'll just go ahead and set it back 9 days right now.

jarodeaAugust 19, 2015

Didn't fully read the part about the Mario 10, I was going to add another option would be to have levels that used steadily more advanced items and if you beat them it instantly unlocked all of the new items for that level.  Mario 10 sounds like that.

Quote from: jarodea

Didn't fully read the part about the Mario 10, I was going to add another option would be to have levels that used steadily more advanced items and if you beat them it instantly unlocked all of the new items for that level.  Mario 10 sounds like that.

This! That's the sort of issue with the 10 Mario Challenge. You do get to see all these crazy cool things, but even when you bring that level into the editor (which you can do after you beat it), you don't have access to everything the level has to offer. For example, you unlock the Sound FX on day 6 or 7. A lot of those premade stages use Sound FX. You can do nothing with Sound FX until day 6 or 7. It's just frustrating. If I didn't know about the unlock system, I would have thought I was missing huge chunks of the game with no clue as to how to access it.

Ian SaneAugust 19, 2015

Quote from: NWR_Neal

Quote from: jarodea

Didn't fully read the part about the Mario 10, I was going to add another option would be to have levels that used steadily more advanced items and if you beat them it instantly unlocked all of the new items for that level.  Mario 10 sounds like that.

This! That's the sort of issue with the 10 Mario Challenge. You do get to see all these crazy cool things, but even when you bring that level into the editor (which you can do after you beat it), you don't have access to everything the level has to offer. For example, you unlock the Sound FX on day 6 or 7. A lot of those premade stages use Sound FX. You can do nothing with Sound FX until day 6 or 7. It's just frustrating. If I didn't know about the unlock system, I would have thought I was missing huge chunks of the game with no clue as to how to access it.

Maybe Nintendo's support will get hammered with calls and emails from people confused about why they can't access X.  If anything was to persuade them into patching away this "feature" it would be that.  We know it's this annoying unlock feature but would more casual users be aware of that?  Is it immediately obvious to the user that that's how things work?

Mop it upAugust 19, 2015

Quote from: Khushrenada

This is how I felt about some things in Animal Crossing: New Leaf. People are getting off easy only having to wait 9 days for everything to unlock!

I was thinking the same thing. No one knows patience in this day and age.

jarodeaAugust 19, 2015

Quote from: NWR_Neal

Quote from: jarodea

Didn't fully read the part about the Mario 10, I was going to add another option would be to have levels that used steadily more advanced items and if you beat them it instantly unlocked all of the new items for that level.  Mario 10 sounds like that.

This! That's the sort of issue with the 10 Mario Challenge. You do get to see all these crazy cool things, but even when you bring that level into the editor (which you can do after you beat it), you don't have access to everything the level has to offer. For example, you unlock the Sound FX on day 6 or 7. A lot of those premade stages use Sound FX. You can do nothing with Sound FX until day 6 or 7. It's just frustrating. If I didn't know about the unlock system, I would have thought I was missing huge chunks of the game with no clue as to how to access it.

Is it just sound they keep blocked off?  I wouldn't be too annoyed about that but I can see how others would be. 

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