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Disney Infinity: Good Idea, Bad Idea

California Screamin' and Dinosaur's Time Rover

by Becky Hollada and Kimberly Keller - November 6, 2013, 6:08 pm EST

You're gonna need some Fastpasses this week...

California Screamin’ (Good Idea) – by Kimberly Keller

California Screamin’ is one of the fastest rides out of all the Disney properties and at over six thousand feet, it’s the longest looping coaster in the entire world. And no, smarty pants, I’m not advocating for a creepy Thomas the Tank Engine-esque Play Set where the coaster sprouts eyes and we all go for a joyride into a magical land where Mr. Cali Screamin’ learns the importance of friendship, I just want a kickass vehicle Power Disc out of this awesome ride.

The main focus here is the linear induction motor. This is the nifty little device that causes the coaster to blast off from zero to 55mph in four seconds flat, launching you, and your lunch, up 120 feet in an instant. Most coasters rely on old fashioned lift chains that drag the coaster train up a hill with agonizing slowness, but not California Screamin’, and this is key to its Disney Infinity success.

All the vehicles in the game so far are pretty uniform: they get you where you need to go, but with no distinct style other than their appearance. Why not go for something withll a little more oomph? How about 55mph of oomph? With the California Screamin’ Ppower Ddisc, players could blast away from enemies in an instant with short bursts of speed. It’d almost be like a power up ability paired with a vehicle, and hey, there’s room, how about letting multiple characters ride the coaster at the same time? Almost like a tricked out getaway car, players can swing in right in the nick of time and load up others in need, or just run over enemies with their magnificent speed.


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Blast off!!

Bringing in the ride’s trademark rockin’ music could be a fun bonus whenever you initiate its super speed, not to mention including the ride’s intro spiel when you hop in. Fun fact: that’s the legen-wait-for-it-dary Neil Patrick Harris telling you to keep your head back and face forward because this ride is blasting off in 5, 4, 3, 2, 1!!

I actually think the best thing about this Ppower Ddisc is the challenge it would bring with it. It’s not just a simple ride for your character, but a weapon/vehicle to master and strategize with. With bursts of speed comes loss of control as your reaction time allowance gets shorter. You need to learn to control your awesome power if you want to be able to turn and navigate during the rush instead of just zooming forward in a straight line all the time. Suped-up Power Discs like this could bring whole new skills to master in the Toy Box, keeping the game fresh and interesting.


The Time Rover (Bad Idea) - by Becky Hollada

The Time Rover comes from the only reason anyone over the age of six goes to DinoLand, U.S.A. in Disney’s Animal Kingdom: Dinosaur. In this ride, guests get to travel back in time to the age of the dinosaurs thanks to “new technology” that makes every physicist ever want to scream. There’s some shenanigans that ensue and what starts as a friendly tour turns into a nightmare complete with meteors and a giant Carnotaurus that wants to pick its teeth with your bones. But somehow, your trusty Time Rover makes it intact and delivers you back to the present without a scratch.

Now the Time Rover looks pretty darn cool, like a jeep-limo hybrid that is built for some rough terrain while comfortably seating several rows of passengers. Like the California Screamin’, this vehicle would be awesome for piling in characters without a problem, and after handling the late Cretaceous period no problem, you know that there is not a single bit of terrain that could slow this thing down.


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Roads? Where we're going we don't--oh no wait, we definitely need roads.

And of course, what would a Time Rover be without an added feature to temporarily control time? Unfortunately nothing except a big jeep that attracts carnivorous dinos, which is where this vehicle falls flat as a potential Power Disc to represent the Disney theme parks. Time manipulation would be a huge headache for a game that features real time multiplayer. A time stop would certainly be possible in game since it works on the same principles as seeing other people’s characters occupy the same space, but I can see it quickly topping the list of biggest jerk moves in video games, next to camping at a spawn point in FPS. And a time reversal? No chance. It would be impossible to make something like that work in real time, multiplayer game play, and if a Power Disc can’t be used in every setting of the game, it simply can’t be used at all.

So without its ability to travel through time, the Time Rover doesn’t have much to offer. It’s just a car, and a car with poorly timed traction issues at that, and that just doesn’t cut it in a world with vehicles that have more personality at the very least, if not cooler abilities as well. Unlike some of our other bad ideas, the Time Rover may not be a total lost cause with some brilliant ingenuity. Sadly for Dinosaur fans though, this little guy probably isn’t one of the top picks for theme park inspired Power Discs, so it won’t likely ever get the attention it needs to pull it off.

Altered images courtesy of Kimberly Keller.

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Talkback

CericOctober 03, 2013

294,000 units.  Double Standard on Success.

Alright on the article.

CericOctober 03, 2013

I think Winnie the Pooh be an ok edition.


Now Roger Rabbit on the other hand would be one of those great on paper but not in reality combinations.  While I think the characters themselves be a great fit.  I don't see how the stages for them would work.  A large portion of the charm of Who Framed Roger Rabbit is having that contrast between the Cartoon and Real world and between Now and Then.  They would need photo realistic characters and settings to play the straight man to do it right.  They have to be different then the actual Infinity Universe style to get the contrast right.

BJWanlundOctober 03, 2013

YES to Roger Rabbit!  What about The Three Caballeros?  That technically would include a member of the Fab Five (or Six depending on your perspective), but hey, it'd certainly be interesting.

CericOctober 03, 2013

Lets really dig.  The Three Little Pigs.  They had their own series. 

MetalMario2October 03, 2013

None of these will be coming. The game ought to be called "Pixar Infinity: Featuring Johnny Depp".

CericOctober 04, 2013

To be honest Pixar properties are probably the easiest to port since they already have 3D models to start with.

Spak-SpangOctober 07, 2013

Actually Roger Rabbit would work if you only had Toon Town.  Toon Town was great and super Creepy...but you would have to get that sugary cell shaded world just perfect, and it would be a careful balance between annoying and brilliant. 



MetalMario2October 09, 2013

I actually binge-watched the Tinkerbell movies on Netflix on a day that I felt particularly bored and shiftless, and I've got to admit, they weren't that bad. Strictly kid's stuff, but not that bad. Disney is doing a good job of developing the character's genesis gradually over the course of this series of films. In the third film, they explained why Tinkerbell can't speak to humans using her normal voice, and the next film in development is supposed to feature a young Captain Hook (before Peter Pan cuts off his hand, of course).

WahOctober 09, 2013

Lucario ::)

MetalMario2October 25, 2013

Yeah, "The Black Cauldron" sucked.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorOctober 25, 2013

Song of the South.

MetalMario2October 25, 2013

They could actually do that if they left out Uncle Remus and the Tar Baby. I mean, it worked for Splash Mountain.

TeaHeeOctober 25, 2013

I didn't hate "The Black Cauldron" but I was also completely enamored with the book series it was based on back in junior high. Following much of the logic put forward against it, I would have to guess that "The Sword and the Stone" would also fall in the bad idea list.

KeyBillyOctober 27, 2013

I didn't realize that Black Couldron was so hated.  I saw it a few years ago and liked it a lot.  It has a unique tone and style that captured my imagination.  I don't plan on getting Infinity, but maybe it would work to make statues/buildings/mountains/weapons/etc. for the lesser known franchises, similar to trophies in SSB.

Jasae BushaeOctober 28, 2013

Having read the books the black cauldron is based upon, I can certainly say that the movie was worlds better by comparison and that a darker vibe would not have saved the film in the least.

And, I agree that it might not make the best of playsets for Infinity. As structured as that movie was, unless the playset was having you go through the plot of the film to detail, the creators would have to create some pretty new material (perhaps borrowing from other books in the original series?) which might be more work than they want to put in.
That said, if they did do it, it would not necesarily be a bad playset. The lone ranger playset received much much higher reviews than the film did and gets near universal praise for its approach despite the films mixed reaction. So if they were to tackle the black cauldron, they could probably make it work.


Though thinking on it, the black cauldron would actually make a pretty awesome kingdom hearts world. Given that settings penchant for telling the stories of movies over with the inclusion of kingdom hearts setting...They could simply give the horned king a cauldron that summons heartless and run the characters through a pretty solid world.


As for kim possible, I have to ask, what basis makes that series a good choice? They are already planning a phineas and ferb playset. They have the Incredibles already lined up. What could a kim possible playset offer that does not come off as a boring repeat of the already established playsets?
Lone Ranger tackled wild west
Incredibles did superheroes
Pirates did pirates
Monsters University did college life

The playsets at least for the first year or two should be trying to branch out and cover multiple genres instead of making a bunch of very similar playsets elsewise your just creating a game with tedium that is rereleasing the same content over and over.
Which would be bad for Kim Possible since as you said, it HAD its final season and its only getting older and further from public memory

TrekStyxNovember 04, 2013

I think the Kim Possible and her world of characters would be an awesome addition to Infinity.


It's true that The Incredibles already covers the superhero territory and Monsters U covers college/school life, but Kim Possible is NEITHER of these genres. She's a spy!


She's got gadgets, stealth, and acrobatics and fights evil all without the benefit of Mr. Incredible-esque strength. She's the Disney cartoon equivalent of Batman or James Bond, and the spy genre and martial arts action is something that is seriously fun and currently lacking in the current roster of Infinity swashbucklers and supers.


Plus a KP playset has great potential. If there's any doubt in your mind that her unique world of characters doesn't translate into a good gaming experience, check out the "Kim Possible: What's the Switch?" game from 2006. It is surprisingly addictive and even more surprising, incredibly challenging.


As for The Black Cauldron. It is indeed dated and doesn't work. While it may be true that something like The Lone Ranger got a playset that was more well received than its more polarizing film counterpart, that was also a modern, recent Disney property and one with Johnny "Captain Jack" Depp attached no less. Suffice it to say, The Lone Ranger deserved a second skin in gaming and Disney was rightly motivated to give it that chance.


Black Cauldron is old, irrelevant and didn't work for Disney even in its heyday. While the right group of developers might be able to fish through the source material and conjure up a fresh take on the story in game form, that would say more their own creativity than it would for The Black Cauldron as a deserving Infinity candidate.


Definitely proper good/bad ideas this week!

Tron, Flynn and Sark.


I have to disagree on Loki though—I prefer my Marvel, LucasFilm and Disney separate. If the line gets blurred, we may end up with Spider-Mickey and Darth Goofy, and I don't know if I want to live in that kind of world.

UncleBobRichard Cook, Guest ContributorDecember 06, 2013

You don't say....

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I'm not sure if I'll ever get this game, but if they came out with Wall-E, my wife would buy the figurines regardless.

azekeDecember 07, 2013

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Kill me. Now.

I know right?..

They're smearing all stinky SW business over our precious Goofy!..

Zombie Goofy in one of the latest Mickey Mouse shorts was so creepy

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