Yes, the Warriors were the best team last year (that Draymond Green suspension was bullshit and ruined the Finals).
Yes, the Warriors were the best team last year (that Draymond Green suspension was bullshit and ruined the Finals).
That nutchecker deserved that suspension. He should've suspended in the previous series after hit hit the same player in the nuts in back-to-back in the previous series. That should've cost the Warriors the Conference Finals.
But, at the end of the day, Warriors lost Game 7 at home. They didn't deserve it.
I would've preferred if the NBA just said, "That's the third time he hit someone in the nuts; he's getting suspended". That roundabout **** they pulled was entirely unneeded.
Curry played like an idiot to foul out. You can call BS on 3 of the fouls, but why is he guarding that close with 5 fouls? What are you doing, Steph??
But, at the end of the day, Warriors lost Game 7 at home. They didn't deserve it.
(and that Barnes and Ezeli both sucked ass in the times they were needed the most).
The kick to Steven Adams' groin was blatant flopping which Draymond Green should have been fined for in addition to the Flagrant Foul.
The so-called groin swipe to Lebron James was total bullshit. He stepped over Green which is completely disrespectful. Green's reaction seemed more like "get off me" than a cheap shot. I know it sounds like I'm a Draymond Green apologist, I'm just calling it he way I see it.
I thought he got $25k for the Sports-Ent **** Punt. (http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/06/draymond-green-suspended-fouls)He got fined for the flagrant foul. I was saying he should have additionally gotten fined for flopping. Maybe the NBA didn't think it was necessary to stack the fines.
Yes they were.
there was plenty of drama surrounding it, but the Cavs came out victorious in the end.
Yes they were.
there was plenty of drama surrounding it, but the Cavs came out victorious in the end.
That's a new and interesting way of saying the Warriors blew a 3-1 series lead in the Finals.
I didn't see it live, but my phone was quick to tell me what happened. I love Draymond in the "He's an a-hole, but thankfully he's our a-hole" kind of way.
I never root against "my" teams but Phil Jackson had last night coming. He has been the exact disaster every Knick fan I know thought he would be. The Dolans are a blight on the city in so many ways. The one bright spot is Porzingis is legit and at least gives the fans something to become invested in.
But hey, they had to have a weakness somewhere. If they didn't have all these stupid turnover, the only way to beat them would be to hope they completely stalled on offense for multiple extended periods of time.
But hey, they had to have a weakness somewhere. If they didn't have all these stupid turnover, the only way to beat them would be to hope they completely stalled on offense for multiple extended periods of time.
Which can happen, given the leads they almost blew to the Raptors a few nights ago.
There's the nagging fear that Iggy might just fall off a cliff one of these days and Ian Clark still can't really be trusted until he contributes during the playoffs. And JaVale has impressed, but he's still a knucklehead.
In unrelated news I attended my first NBA game a few weeks ago while on trip to Atlanta. Hornets vs Hawks. Got to see Marco Belinelli and a Zeller blow up big for the Hornets and Dwight Howard pick up silly fouls like always.
but that stall in offense also had multiple stupid turnovers. multiple stupid turnovers also being the main, and only reason that matters, when it comes to that loss to the Cavs as well.
In unrelated news I attended my first NBA game a few weeks ago while on trip to Atlanta. Hornets vs Hawks. Got to see Marco Belinelli and a Zeller blow up big for the Hornets and Dwight Howard pick up silly fouls like always.
I don't want to bring politics into it other than to say that there are dimensions to both the LeBron and Melo conflicts that transcend basketball and I will support both players for those off-the-court reasons. I will also just say that the media coverage of the conflicts, and how management responds, won't be primarily driven by on-court agendas either.
I will never take Dan Gilbert's side in anything. This is a man that took joy in publicly roasting Lebron in the media when he left and tried to do anything in his power to discredit him. And that's even before you start getting into his shady mortgage lending business.
As far as I'm concerned Lebron is criminally underpaid in Cleveland and holds the most power and ability to make decisions in that franchise. He has earned that by sheer force of dominance in the league. Cleveland's records with him prove it. I disagree with what he's saying about his young players (Golden State has to make due with guys like McCaw, McAdoo and Ian Clark. Can you imagine Curry publicly blasting them like James did with Felder and Liggins?) but he has a point in that he shouldn't be having to log 44 minutes a night in mid-January.
It's more perspective than details and is too divisive for this forum. I will just say that LeBron's way of doing business is challenging existing power structures and there has been a substantial racial dimension to the backlash since at least "The Decision".
Melo's low efficiency, low defense, ball-hogging game is the same as it was when the Knicks traded for him, and when they most recently resigned him (both times in opposition to the majority of Knick fans). If they are moving him now for basketball reasons, then it is an admission of massive failure on behalf of management. If they are moving him for off-court reasons, then it circles back to Phil Jackson's racial arrogance regarding LeBron.
Either way this is all on management and that's whose incompetence the media should be focused on.
Again, there are issues of class, race, and power lurking as to why there is a lack of accountability for ownership and management, and why the personal characters of black men like LeBron James and Carmelo Anthony are drug through the mud, and people like Dan Gilbert, Jim Dolan, and Phil Jackson are protected.
2016-2017 NBA salaries
Rank Team Salary
1 Cleveland Cavaliers $128,699,407
2 Los Angeles Clippers $116,237,542
3 Portland Trail Blazers $112,823,449
4 Dallas Mavericks $110,679,908
5 Memphis Grizzlies $110,537,188
6 Detroit Pistons $108,967,919
7 San Antonio Spurs $108,059,787
8 Toronto Raptors $106,742,969
9 Orlando Magic $106,296,398
10 Washington Wizards $103,616,690
11 New York Knicks $103,614,716
12 Miami Heat $101,575,441
13 Golden State Warriors $101,239,340
Yeah, we are are really coming from different places. I wouldn't think of describing what LeBron is doing as acting like a spoiled brat anymore than I would a GM lowballing a contract or trashing a player in arbitration.
http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/friendship-1792264563 (http://screengrabber.deadspin.com/friendship-1792264563)
You gotta love Enes Kanter jawing and acting like a total heel manager as Westbrook returns to the bench for a timeout, down 18 points.
The Warriors have publicly humiliated the Thunder in all 3 meetings this season. Durant has scored 39, 40 and 34 in the 3 meetings and I can't get enough of it because OKC still acts like they're on equal footing.
And just for good measure, an eff you three pointer if there's ever been one.
anyone see Lebron's "no contact missed dunk Bellyflop seal slide begging for a foul" during their loss to OKC tonight!?
OMG LOL.
cash me inna minit, imma find it ousside this forum right quick.
look for a edit
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and broadcast on National Television.
As funny as LeBron missing a dunk and riding the court like a Slip 'n Slide is, those camera people sit way too close to the court. It's worse in the playoffs, but it still bugs me how close people get. It just doesn't look safe.
Last night was just -chef's kiss- beautiful. Specially JaVale and that final fast break dunk...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yCYF3xbL1pQ
Value Divac is so bad. Anyone with rudimentary knowledge of Franchise Mode in 2k17 can probably do a better job as GM than him.
I feel bad for Buddy Hield. Dude's career is probably in the toilet now all because Vivek Ranadive has some insane, unrealistic expectations of him.
Cleveland's efense can't stop me right now, full stop.
Also, Memphis's coach might want to start a GoFundMe after he tore the refs several new orifices last night.
Meanwhile, in Milwaukee...
(http://i.imgur.com/VeNBg.gif)
This was very winnable, and Russ and Roberson are not the ones to blame.
I just don't see where he would go, and who would want him with his style of play.
He also seems pretty loyal to anchor tied to his ankle in OKC. He might try to triple double it one more year, and maybe get lucky on getting a vet or two before trade deadlines next year if they are in a position to make a playoff run again.
Anyone care to make game by game predictions?
Sun: Wiz @ Celts game 1 // Jazz @ Clips game 7
Mon: Raps @ Cavs game 1 // Rockets @ Spurs game 1
Tues: Wiz @ Celts game 2* // ? ? ? @ Warriors game 1
*need to see how gm1 turns out before predictions on gm2.
I'm betting on the
Wiz taking gm1
Clips taking gm7
Cavs taking gm1
Spurs taking gm1
I dunno man... I'm sure the Jazz won't go down easy, but I expect the Dubs to "son" the Jazz much like the Cavs are doing to the Raptors right now.
The Jazz lost by an average of 15 points. Sure, the last game skewed the average upward, but the Jazz still lost each of the first three games by over 10 points. The Jazz were competitive, but I never thought the Warriors were in danger of losing any of those games.
The Jazz are in that weird treadmill mode. They're a good team with good players, but they aren't touching the Warriors, Spurs, or even the Rockets (if they manage to keep playing like Better 2007 Phoenix Suns). On top of that, isn't Gordon Hayward an unrestricted free agent? If he leaves, the Jazz may be trending downward for at least a couple years.
That's one of my issues with the NBA. At any one time, there are ever only three or four teams with a reasonable chance to win the championship. We're probably getting the third straight year of Warriors vs Cavs. Next year, we're probably getting another Warriors vs Cavs series. I actively dislike the Cavs, mostly because Dan Gilbert is a fucking wiener. At some point, I'm going to get tired of seeing the Warriors win all the time.
I wonder if people felt this way during the Jordan era.
I wonder if people felt this way during the Jordan era.
They were actually talking about this yesterday on TV and Radio saying there a reason so and so, and people like Chuck never got a ring.... Jordan.
I'm sure some felt the same way about Kobe, and then now Lebron.
But no one is stopping them from taking less money and making a move to , or recruiting some talent to challenge the King of the East.
Running the West certainly isn't the answer, as then you have to face The Dubs, The Spurs & The Rockets. At least in the East there is only one main obstacle, and if you can figure out how to minimize the impact of 1 person, you have a chance to minimize the impact of the entire squad he rolls with.... not so much the case at least with the Warriors.
Things could have been more interesting if the Blazers didn't face the Warriors first round.
Rondo didn't get injured, and the Heat made the 8th seed instead of the Pacers making the 7th.
Actually, if we could have bounced them shook ass Raptors out of the playoffs all together, eveything would have been better in the East.
The East has been largely terrible for twenty years now. A trifecta of poor ownership, a hard cap, and guaranteed contracts make it nearly impossible for teams to improve. With the exception of a year or two, professional basketball has been particularly dreadful in the Northeast.
There's been some bad luck too. San Antonio was allowed to get away with tanking the season when David Robinson and Sean Elliot went down injured early and they ended up stealing Tim Duncan from the three slot in the lottery. Little things like that have long term effects on parity when you have a hard cap/guaranteed contracts.
Personally, I think the NBA salary caps are kind of a joke. People always complain they're pointless, but I think they've always been too low to be effective.
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Peas and rice, Boston. Did you even try?Well, this is still accurate.
Finally, the best part of the NBA season is here.
My secret wish is for a Cavs sweep, just for the lolz. Not that it would happen, but could you imagine the reactions?
Again, I'm not even a Warriors fan, but since neither the Lakers nor the Sixers are likely going anywhere this year, all this 3-1 taunting kind of makes me want to see the Warriors steamroll through the playoffs and sweep the Cavaliers in the finals. I don't even want it to be close. I want a 16-0 playoff run and the NBA losing millions in advertising for that nonsense last season.Let's fucking do this.
Again, I'm not even a Warriors fan, but since neither the Lakers nor the Sixers are likely going anywhere this year, all this 3-1 taunting kind of makes me want to see the Warriors steamroll through the playoffs and sweep the Cavaliers in the finals. I don't even want it to be close. I want a 16-0 playoff run and the NBA losing millions in advertising for that nonsense last season.Let's fucking do this.
I had a post typed up and my browser ate so I'm just gonna post this freaking act of God.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZgZA0BdL4mc
oh, and that Nene deal that fell through, that was kinda fucked. Over 38 rule... (not really sure what that is, but apparently it was violated by the deal)?
back on the market for him. Or maybe the Rockets get something else worked out
What was the rush?Every day you have a guy who admittedly doesn't want to play for your team you're losing leverage, damaging locker room morale, and frustrating the fan base. Larry Bird gambled and lost. Kevin Pritchard was on clock. Paul George was losing value by the hour. Everyone and their mother knows he's going to the Lakers unless he falls in the perfect situation so most teams weren't offering great deals. Pritchard was balancing his own pettiness with his need to improve the team.
Were they really that damn petty about him not staying in the East, that they wouldn't trade him for something actually useful to the team?Well, yeah. Pritchard called George telling the Pacers he had no intention of returning a "gut-punch" three times in the same interview. He should have said thank you because George didn't have to say ****. In any case, this happens all the time in sports. That's why I don't think there's anything suspicious going on. It isn't against NBA rules to be an asshole to a player halfway out the door even if he meant a lot to the franchise and city for the past seven years.
and with everyone headed West... I'm really wondering what the All-star game looks like next year.
There's no way the Warriors get 4 on the squad again. But role players will be pulling up on the 2nd unit for the East. They might have to get rid of East vs West and just do top 20 voting and pick team captains who pick their squad the day before the game. LOL that would be interesting.
Here is the 2017 All-Star roster:
http://www.nba.com/teams/allstar/2017 (http://www.nba.com/teams/allstar/2017)
The East has already lost 2 in PG & Butler
Millsap is shopping to get on T-Wolves
Lowry hasn't landed anywhere yet
Not sure what's up with Carmelo
and Cavs were trying to trade Love to Denver in 3-way to get PG from Ind.
Assuming some of those don't stay East... who takes their place on the East squad?
and which of them make the squad in the West ahead of who is already on the likely to be back list?
Honestly I think they should do a Top 16 Playoffs (conference-less / evens vs odds) and do the Team Captain Top 20 All-Star Game. could be more interesting especially considering how stacked the West is right now vs how weak the East looks in comparison
Look at this ridiculous roster:
Starting 5: Curry/Klay/Durant/Green/Zaza(just re-signed!)
Bench Unit: Livingston/Swaggy/Iggy/Casspi/West
Depth: McCaw/Bell/Looney.
Warriors actually managed to improve over what they had with Clark/McAdoo.
and we still got room for what? 2 more? Did McGee get paid in Sac? I thought I heard he signed w/ the Kings. and what happened to Clark and MacAdoo? did they get resigned anywhere?
Also I assume Zaza took a vet minimum again?
Who do you think made out the best in this trade?Ehh, Golden State was going to steamroll everyone this year regardless.
The Warriors?
LOS ANGELES -- In the aftermath of a cantankerous loss, Houston Rockets forward Trevor Ariza and stars Chris Paul and James Harden marched through a back corridor and into the LA Clippers' locker room late Monday night, suggesting that they wanted to confront Clippers players Austin Rivers and Blake Griffin, league sources told ESPN.
Rockets guard Gerald Green joined Ariza, Paul and Harden through the connecting hallway and breached the entrance of the home team's locker room.
Stunned Clippers players, celebrating a 113-102 victory, leaped to their feet upon the realization that four seething Rockets players had come calling for them, sources told ESPN.
For a few fleeting moments, several Clippers dared the Rockets to come farther into the room, sources said. Security and team officials soon converged on the Rockets, pushing them out the door and back toward the visiting locker room, sources said. Ariza was described as the first one through the door, with Paul lingering in the back, witnesses told ESPN.
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CP3 draws mixed reception in return to L.A.
The boos for Chris Paul weren't the reason it was a disappointing return to L.A. for the former Clippers star, with his Rockets falling 113-102 at Staples Center on Monday night.
Clippers beat Paul, Rockets 113-102 for 5th win in a row
Lou Williams scored 31 points, Blake Griffin added 29 before his ejection, and the Los Angeles Clippers defeated the Houston Rockets 113-102 on Monday night in Chris Paul's heated return to Staples Center against his old team.
"It was classic NBA," one Clippers witness told ESPN. "None of these guys were going to fight."[/]
With his ball-handling skills and his passing ability. He plays above the rim I never could do that. But in his understanding of the game, his basketball IQ, his creativity of shots for his teammates. That's where we [have the] same thing. Can bring it down, make a pass, make a play. I'm just happy he's starting in the All-Star game because he deserves that. And he's going to be like an MVP, a champion, this dude he's going to put Milwaukee on the map. And I think he's going to bring them a championship one day.Weirdly, Johnson didn’t get fined last year for the winking-at-Paul-George joke on Jimmy Kimmel Live! and even though it was clearly in jest, I expected a tampering fine. The Lakers eventually got fined for Rob Pelinka’s not-tamerping-but-totally-tampering emails. Saying Antetokounmpo will bring the Bucks a title then getting docked on tampering is some bullshit. I could understand if Johnson said he’d love to have Antetokounmpo on his team (and honestly, get in line as there are 28 other teams in the league that would too).
Magic Johnson just got fined $50,000 for tampering. In an interview with ESPN (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/22253673/magic-johnson-expects-giannis-antetokuonmpo-take-milwaukee-bucks-championship), he drew parallels between himself and Giannis Antetokounmpo:QuoteWith his ball-handling skills and his passing ability. He plays above the rim I never could do that. But in his understanding of the game, his basketball IQ, his creativity of shots for his teammates. That's where we [have the] same thing. Can bring it down, make a pass, make a play. I'm just happy he's starting in the All-Star game because he deserves that. And he's going to be like an MVP, a champion, this dude he's going to put Milwaukee on the map. And I think he's going to bring them a championship one day.Weirdly, Johnson didn’t get fined last year for the winking-at-Paul-George joke on Jimmy Kimmel Live! and even though it was clearly in jest, I expected a tampering fine. The Lakers eventually got fined for Rob Pelinka’s not-tamerping-but-totally-tampering emails. Saying Antetokounmpo will bring the Bucks a title then getting docked on tampering is some bullshit. I could understand if Johnson said he’d love to have Antetokounmpo on his team (and honestly, get in line as there are 28 other teams in the league that would too).
Ultimately, the NBA hasn’t been consistent in handling tampering.
The real miracle here is how JR Smith survived all these moves.
Also I want to know how LeBron gets to the Finals with Jordan Clarkson, Larry Nance Jr, Rodney Hood and George Hill.
I think Cleveland just straight up gave Wade back to Miami, no questions asked.
I don't think they need the #1 seed to advance to the finals. They might be better off not gunning for it and burning the team out.#1 seed or not, they need to shake some of these defensive bad habits and focus in. You ain't getting the bench in Playoff mode coasting into the playoffs. The starters and returning role players may be on the level when the times comes, but some of the bench need to develop those things that haven't been present for more than minutes during the regular season so far.
Woj has a report on ESPN that cites sources who say that Leonard has been medically cleared to return from his right quad injury. However, he has so far chosen not to return to the active roster.
https://deadspin.com/gregg-popovich-on-kawhi-leonard-ill-be-surprised-if-h-1823209934 (https://deadspin.com/gregg-popovich-on-kawhi-leonard-ill-be-surprised-if-h-1823209934)
I didn't think Kawhi's relationship with the Spurs was that bad. But it looks like it is.QuoteWoj has a report on ESPN that cites sources who say that Leonard has been medically cleared to return from his right quad injury. However, he has so far chosen not to return to the active roster.
RIP Wesley Johnson
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lBEV4l9YzOw
A couple quick questions:
1. How much trouble are the Warriors in without Steph Curry?
Well, let me put it to you this way: they just got blown out by the Jazz 110-91, who are struggling to even make the playoffs, in Oakland.Without Curry, Durant, Green, AND Thompson. In my previous post, I specifically said without Curry (since the others are expected to be available for the Playoffs) and Kerr doesn’t expect him back for the first round.
A couple quick questions:
1. How much trouble are the Warriors in without Steph Curry?
Well, let me put it to you this way: they just got blown out by the Jazz 110-91, who are struggling to even make the playoffs, in Oakland.
The Warriors haven't exactly been expending the same effort on defense during this regular season as they may have in the previous 3. If anything, since ASB, they've shown that they are actually capable of playing that kind of defense, they just haven't extended it for more than 1-2 qtrs in any particular game before they became sloppy and passive again. (in other words, this team has not been focused/"locked in" this season at all)
And I'm sure we (Warriors) can beat whoever is in the 7th seed w/o Steph, but I really think that comes down to who that ends up being for it is a 5 game or 7 game series.
OKC has an unreal amount of motivation against the Warriors. They only have 7 games left over the next 3 weeks and considering their position, 3 more losses could put them out of the playoffs all together. 5 of their next 7 is against playoff/potential teams (including the nuggets, who have beat them 2/3 games so far this season.) 1 of those games will be against the Warriors who will want to see them miss the playoffs. NO, HOU, SA are the other 3 playoff teams they are facing.
MIN I'm not all that worried about facing, and it's much more likely as they have a much easier schedule than OKC from here on out. 5 of their 8 final games is against teams not making the playoffs, and the only team that poses a potential threat is The Lakers.
The 3 teams they really gotta worry about is DEN x2 and The Jazz
The Spurs w/o Kawhi isn't really on my radar as a threat in a 7 game series. It might go to 5 w/o Curry, but I'm confident we got that. But looking at their upcoming schedule... they might be watching the playoffs from home anyway. 6 of their next 8 are all playoff/potential teams here (7 if you wanna count the Lakers that haven't been technically ruled out yet). The only gimme game they got is vs The Kings
The Pelicans.... they've been playing great, especially after doing 5 in 7 days and only losing 1, that 1 being to the Rockets.
I'm not sure how they'll hang against the Dubs minus Curry, but we've beaten all 3 times this year so far. Getting a clean sweep in the regular season will go along way with cleaning them up in the post season too. Unfortunately for them, 6 of their last 8 are also against playoff/potential teams, but I'm sure they'll win atleast half of those (SA, CLE, LAC, possibly OKC too)
LAC... no worries here. They would be lucky to make it in. 8th seed, 7th seed, 6th seed, i see it being in and out for them. 7 of their final 9 (8 if you count LAL) all playoff/potential teams fighting for position. But like I said, I think they'll be lucky to seed at all.
The Jazz I have some reservations about, but only if they actually start hitting shots and for whatever reason, we haven't flipped that defensive switch. I don't think they take a 7 game series, but I see them making it tough w/o Steph on the floor. I shouldn't even count their next 3 games w/ Memphis, Dallas, and a depleted Celtics. But the 5 games after that, they play the Lakers 2x, and the Clippers, so they have a good chance of maybe climbing up from that 8th seed where they currently sit (hopefully to that 4th or 5th seed tho)
The Nuggets I'm not really sure about. Outside of Jokic, I can't remember who's on the team. I ain't worried about this team though, they just lost to Miami, Memphis and Dallas this month. But their remaining schedule is full of position jockeying teams too, so who knows if they climb into the playoffs or not. Everything is so close between 4-10.
and if you wanna include them....
The Lakers - maybe next year. Great push at the end, but too little too late this season.
A couple quick questions:1. How much trouble are the Warriors in without Steph Curry?
I found the kicks for Caterkiller
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I wanted to hop on this morning, but I've been crazy busy all day. on the radio they said that OKC can't even be in 7th regardless of who wins loses today. LOLI was trying to figure out which team would end up where based on tie-breakers then realized it didn’t matter.
just an FYI, but Kawhi is out for a leg injury.... thigh or something. Zaza took out an ankle last yearIt’s his quad. I figured they were related.
just an FYI, but Kawhi is out for a leg injury.... thigh or something. Zaza took out an ankle last yearIt’s his quad. I figured they were related.
If portland wins we get
Rockets vs Wolves
OKC vs Utah
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Portland vs NoP
Warriors vs Spurs
If Jazz win, we get
Rockets vs Wolves
Portland vs NoP
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OKC vs Jazz
Warriors vs Spurs
Crazy to think that this could be the first time in SEVEN YEARS that LeBron doesn't make it to the Finals. He may not even make it out of the first round.
Crazy to think that this could be the first time in SEVEN YEARS that LeBron doesn't make it to the Finals. He may not even make it out of the first round.
Man I been saying that for months. For a minute, it looked like he might not even make the playoffs.
Lebron can't carry his team to the finals if the last 3 games show is all the rest of teh team is capable of bring to the table. Especially when Love is hurt again.
Cavs only won game 2 because OLADIPOOOOO!!!! got those 2 quick fouls and was out for most of the 1st qtr.
2 more minutes to the game, and I bet Pacers woulda won.
Ha, ha. Yeah, not so fast on that one.
LOL, Cavs. I don’t hate the team. I just really hate Dan Gilbert.
Ha, ha. Yeah, not so fast on that one.LOL, Cavs. I don’t hate the team. I just really hate Dan Gilbert.
I didn't get to see/listen to the 2nd half buy LMAO @ The Cavs.
can't believe they blew that 17pt lead at the half, and almost came back to just to come up short.
Bron going to Philly next year. I'm tellin you. Finals ain't happening. I'm very doubtful on a game 6 in the 1st round at this point. LOL
I'm really hoping the Trailblazers and the Timberwolves can get at least 1 win in tomorrow.
Trailblazers are already in a Win or Go Home situation..... (3 seed getting picked on by the 6th, smfh)
Utah also need needs to go up 2-1 on OKC
Ha, ha. Yeah, not so fast on that one.LOL, Cavs. I don’t hate the team. I just really hate Dan Gilbert.
I didn't get to see/listen to the 2nd half buy LMAO @ The Cavs.
can't believe they blew that 17pt lead at the half, and almost came back to just to come up short.
Bron going to Philly next year. I'm tellin you. Finals ain't happening. I'm very doubtful on a game 6 in the 1st round at this point. LOL
I'm really hoping the Trailblazers and the Timberwolves can get at least 1 win in tomorrow.
Trailblazers are already in a Win or Go Home situation..... (3 seed getting picked on by the 6th, smfh)
Utah also need needs to go up 2-1 on OKC
To be fair to the Blazers, Seeds 3-8 in the West were separated by something like 1-2 games, so this year 6 beating 3 is not that unheard of.
1. “Thanks for beating the Thunder again.” - Signed, Magic Johnson
2. I don’t really keep up with the Jazz so this is the first time I’ve seen them, but what the hell is up with those alt jerseys? Ew.
The Heat’s Miami Vice jerseys are the only alts I liked more than the standard ones.
I’d go as far as just changing the team colors and making the Vice Nights jerseys the main ones for home and away.The Heat’s Miami Vice jerseys are the only alts I liked more than the standard ones.
Those jerseys are FIRE tho.
it should become the main home jersey. lol
Everyone I wanted to win today lost.... except the Bucks.Yep. The Cavs losing would have been curtains for them. They don’t have the talent to dig out of a 3-1 hole. No idea what the heck the Raptors are doing.
I’d go as far as just changing the team colors and making the Vice Nights jerseys the main ones for home and away.The Heat’s Miami Vice jerseys are the only alts I liked more than the standard ones.
Those jerseys are FIRE tho.
it should become the main home jersey. lol
Hello? Police? I'd like to report a murder. #RocketsvWolvesGame3Quarter3
Because the Rockets are the better, more popular team?
How do you guys see the Dubs performing against the Pels for the first 2 home games in Oakland w/o Curry?
I'm really hoping they play get it together, because they've been too lax on most things all season and now there isn't a fine tuned defensive front, as they haven't practiced it all season.
The Jazz are currently wiping the floor with the Thunder in Game 5. It's amazing how OKC refuses to learn from their mistakes. They're still running Iso plays while the Jazz are whipping the ball all over the court.
The Jazz are currently wiping the floor with the Thunder in Game 5. It's amazing how OKC refuses to learn from their mistakes. They're still running Iso plays while the Jazz are whipping the ball all over the court.
Jazz: ::sweating::
NBA admitted it missed Lebron’s goaltend last night. /slow clap
NBA admitted it missed Lebron’s goaltend last night. /slow clap
Yeah, but let’s talk about our lord and savior, Donovan Mitchell.
broodwars, stop doing this. Last time you got cocky, the Thunder came back and won game 5. I really need the Rockets to lose thisgameseries.
I was listening to ESPN’s Hoop Collective podcast maybe last week, and one of them picked the Cavaliers over the Raptors because he didn’t think the Raptors could win a series if LeBron walks in the building. Well...
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Do you have any of the Sixers mascot?
You really want to see Harden and CP3 chip?
I wouldn’t be surprised if the Cavs got the Ref Assist for the rest of the series. The league knows the Cavs with Lebron are more valuable in the Finals than the Celtics without Kylie Irving. Then again, neither team is going to give the Warriors a decent run. At least there’s a somewhat rivalry with revisiting Warriors vs Cavs for the 37th time. The Finals are going to be a LOL-fail this year.
Lebron is leaving Cleveland sometime during the halftime break in Cleveland on Saturday.Lebron: "After realizing that I have more money than most nations and every state but California, I've decided to take my talents to League of Legends."
Destination: TBD (Philly? LA? MIL? HOU? TOR? UTAH? NY? LOL?)
You'd think they've been doing this long enough to know better, but I guess not.
Kevin Love ruled out for Game 7 due to concussion protocol.
I really can’t stand the idea of a Rockets vs. Celtics Finals. I’m really hoping the Warriors can pull off two straight wins.
Oh joy...Cavs & Warriors. Again. And here I didn't think these playoffs could get any more boring or predictable.I’m not thrilled because this series is going to be a waste of time. It is interesting how we got here. The Warriors tripped into the best case scenario by having the NBA intervene in the Finals and pluck a series away from them on the same year the salary cap exploded and Kevin Durant was a free agent and tired of Russell Westbrook.
I can’t get behind the whole if-Team-A-had-Player B-Team-A-would-have-won explanation. Eric Gordon brought that trash last night. “If we had Chris, if he was out there, we'd have been playing on Thursday. It's just tough.” Well, he wasn’t out there and your team was up by double digits at halftime without him then you all marched out of the locker room in the second half and laid an egg.
There’s no reason the Cavs should be in the Finals this year yet here we are. This is curtains for The Cavs. No way LeBron stays. Ideally, he signs with a team in the East, but no team makes sense for him. If The Cavs can work out a sign and trade, I think the Spurs, with or without Kawhi would be a good landing spot.
Prediction: King James stays in the LAND after winning the championship
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I still see Draymond's finals suspension as a make up for his non-suspension during the OKC series, but I see your point in the TT situation.The NBA shouldn’t get to make up for it though. Either suspend him when it’s appropriate or don’t. The action that got Draymond Green suspended didn’t make any sense, and LeBron James didn’t get any penalty for unsportsmanlike conduct when he stepped over Green. I get the idea that the NBA was trying to milk that series, but it puts a stain on the league. Letter of the law states you cannot leave the bench. Love was on the court when he shouldn’t have been and he kept walking towards the scuffle before an assistant coach pulled him back. The rule is silly, and it previously wrecked an entire series, but unless the NBA gets rid of it, I think it should be followed.
During an altercation, all players not participating in the game must remain in the immediate vicinity of their bench. Violators will be suspended, without pay, for a minimum of one game and fined up to $50,000.
(https://i.imgur.com/6HzBloc.jpg)That makes this situation so much worse. Smith even got a rebound with 7’0” Kevin Durant in front of him.
JR ain't ever living this moment down. LOL
"I knew we were tied"
That mockup intro was great. I still remember the NBA on NBC theme.
The Cavs wouldn’t have had Paul George and Kyrie Irving as any trade involved both players never had hem going to the same team. In any case, George and Bledsoe would have been a hell of a lot more entertaining than the dumpster fire LeBron tries to put out every night the Cavs roll onto the floor.
I thought the main reason there was the mid season trade for the Cavs was because the locker room of the Cavs was so toxic and they needed to trade players to make the team function better together.
Paul Pierce’s commentary and analysis is so bad. Why does ESPN keep putting him on television?
Nothing official, but I follow the Lakers so I’ve pretty much heard every Paul George trade rumor.
Era>Reddit (https://old.reddit.com/r/lakers/comments/8ojjc7/cyberx_just_dropped_some_news_on_the_lakers/)>source
Some background information on CyberX for those who don't know who he is. He correctly posted about Iso-Joe to the Rockets, JC to CLE, he made this thread on January 25th, 3 weeks before the trade actually happened in Februrary, and CP3 to HOU, among other things. He seems connected to the league. He also posted some behind the scenes about Pelinka and the Lou Will trade.
Source: http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/2-0-cyberex-paging-cyberex.272647/page-6 (http://bbs.clutchfans.net/index.php?threads/2-0-cyberex-paging-cyberex.272647/page-6)
-Still believes Lakers at top of the list for LeBron
-Capella is intrigued about the Lakers, LA scene with their young core if they offer the max, wants to make his own name
-Boogie wants out of NOLA, wants Lakers badly
-PG to Lakers is almost a lock
-Capela isnt looking to leave but he also wouldnt mind going on another team and not being under JH shadow. He feels he can offer more. He sees the Lakers as a young and fun team that he can grow with. Same with PHX. I don't see the Lakers going out there to mess with RFA. Its just not in their style.
-Lakers arent sold on DMC. I dont think they really care for him after the injury. Only see him there if its on a short term deal they strike out on.
-If the Lakers know they can get some studs this summer, they will attach a pick or a young player to get rid of Dengs $. I believe the opportunities are endless.
You guys got me going again, going to make some calls this week. I love the off season.
I'll update this thread whenever he makes a new post.
Does any player ever want to win Finals MVP in a losing effort? So he's going to put that trophy on his shelf so it can remind him of the time his team made it to the finals and blew it? It's basically a "my teammates let me down" award at that point.
It’s about that time I get bored watching a team dominate. I don’t even care if they come back and win in 2020. I’ve had my fill of Warriors in the Finals for now.
It’s about that time I get bored watching a team dominate. I don’t even care if they come back and win in 2020. I’ve had my fill of Warriors in the Finals for now.
In 1994 I had the unfortunate look of picking the Warriors as my favorite team. 9 year-old me had no idea the sadness that he would inherit for the next 20 years. So you know what? Dominate all you want Warriors. I will not get tired of this.
In 1994 I had the unfortunate look of picking the Warriors as my favorite team. 9 year-old me had no idea the sadness that he would inherit for the next 20 years. So you know what? Dominate all you want Warriors. I will not get tired of this.That’s fair. I’d at least like competitive basketball. Besides the Rockets series, the Warriors coasted through the playoffs. There are certain instances in which I want blowout victories (e.g. last year’s Finals due to NBA interference in 2016). Otherwise, I find close games more compelling.
In 1994 I had the unfortunate look of picking the Warriors as my favorite team. 9 year-old me had no idea the sadness that he would inherit for the next 20 years. So you know what? Dominate all you want Warriors. I will not get tired of this.That’s fair. I’d at least like competitive basketball. Besides the Rockets series, the Warriors coasted through the playoffs. There are certain instances in which I want blowout victories (e.g. last year’s Finals due to NBA interference in 2016). Otherwise, I find close games more compelling.
Well, at least now, that the series is over, Lebron has a supporting cast.
That Lakers situation of Kawhi, PG13 and Lebron is scary for the Warriors.Depending on who the Lakers would give up. My money is still on the Warriors until I’m given reason to change my mind. It’s on other teams to prove they can hang with the champs.
I never thought of Kawhi on the Sixers, I always figured he would take that SuperMax contract they are gonna offer him, and call it a career.I’ve heard conflicting things on this, ranging from the Spurs not wanting to offer the supermax because they’re so used to the David Robinson and Tim Duncan types who will take a discount to be part of a system and basically shut up and play to the Spurs apparently taking the supermax off the table until Leonard proved he was committed to the team, as in they would wait until at least he got back on the court and played for a while before offering it which wasn’t even a guarantee. Bad move? Maybe the Spurs called his bluff? Leonard (and/or his camp) already felt slighted by the handling of his injury. Wouldn’t surprise me if the Spurs were so bold.
Been some talk going around about the Jazz possibly trading for Kevin love, giving the Cavs some minor bench players (and Alec Burks) and some first round picks for him. It'd be a good trade for the Jazz since they'd give up nothing of value & Favors could be the bench backup at that position.Assuming LeBron James leaves, the Cavs definitely want at least a first and preferably not to take on long term money. This would be a good move for the Jazz even though Love is a minus defensive player. I mean, he tries, but he isn’t very good on the side of the court. In any case, the Jazz could use another option on offense instead of asking Donovan Mitchell to do so much. They lost to the Rockets. I wanted but didn’t expect the Jazz to prevail. If the Cavs blow it up this summer, I kind of hope this trade happens. Might as well make the West more competitive.
Jebus, man. Those are some sour grapes.
1. Ben Simmons had a better overall year. Yeah, it was closer than anyone was expecting; Simmons still had a better year.
2. It doesn’t matter that Simmons plays in the East.
3. It also doesn’t matter that Simmons redshirted the year he was drafted. He didn’t play a single second that year. Full stop.
4. Rookie of the Year is a trash tier award. It ultimately says nothing about what a player will become or how long he’ll be in the league. Michael Carter-Williams, 2014 Rookie of the Year, was in the same draft class as Giannis Antetokounmpo and even another Jazz player, Rudy Gobert. I guess no expected them to be as good as they became, but that’s exactly my point.
5. Donovan Mitchell is a player the Jazz had no business getting for what they traded to get him. That’s worth more than some award that only matters when a player doesn’t live up to it (see: MCW again).
Donovan Mitchell got robbed, and by a middling player in the Leastern Conference who's not even a Rookie, no less. ::)
Damn, I don't see Curry name anywhere in there... I wonder how he feels knowing the only award he got this year was an NBA Championship.
MVP: James Harden (Houston)
RotY: Ben Simmons (Process)
6th Man: Lou Williams (Clippers)
Defensive Player: Rudy Gobert (Jazz)
Most Improved: Victor Oladipo (Pacers)
Coach of the Year: Dwayne Casey (RaptorsPistons)
Full voting results (http://www.nba.com/nbaawards/2018/finalists)
OKC just dumped a ton of money into keeping a squad of veteran players who got taken out in the 1st round last year and definitely wouldn't have taken out Houston or Golden State. I can't say I understand that.I imagine the Thunder owners see value in putting a watchable roster and to try to keep Russell Westbrook happy. He starts sulking about not getting help and that super max is looking like a tough pill to swallow.
Was it worth it, Magic? wink winkYes. Three weeks ago, they didn’t know Kawhi Leonard was in play. Leonard is a much better player, but Magic didn’t know he would be available. Target the players you think you have a chance at signing.
Lakers officially signed LeBron James to a four year, $154 million deal.
Next up, DeMarcus Cousins. Come on...
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No way the Pelicans trade Anthony Davis unless he demands a trade. A sign and trade to the Lakers for Lonzo Ball and Luol Deng (for CBA purposes) would be better than losing Cousins for nothing. Ball is a minus shooter, but he can get the ball wherever Davis needs it. Davis is also the best pick and roll player in the league. Pair him with great passer, and there’s something to build on. I’d be more worried about Danny Ainge tossing assets at the Pelicans. No need to trade him unless he wants out.
Lakers officially signed LeBron James to a four year, $154 million deal.
Next up, DeMarcus Cousins. Come on...
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Also, LeBron signing and bringing over a bunch of old people he's played against. Where have I seen that move before?Who are you referring to? LeBron James will be the second oldest player on the Lakers after Luol Deng. Both are 33. JaVale McGee is 30, Lance Stephenson is 28, and Kentavious Caldwell-Pope is 25 (though he was on the Lakers last year). Everyone else already on the roster is 24 and under.
It must be nice to be the Lakers, able to just give the salary cap a middle finger whenever you want & throw cash at buying any big name talent at will. -_-If that was even remotely true, the Lakers wouldn’t have the lowest win percentage of any team over the last five years. Seriously, that’s mathematically true. Yes, that includes the Sixers who were actively and unabashedly trying to lose during four of those years. Jim Buss spent whole summers trying to throw money at players until his own sister fired him. Kevin Durant and just two days ago, Paul George didn’t even grant the team a free agent meeting. Are you even fucking trying? Don’t spread your fake bullshit around here, sir. I literally just countered it with simple math.
Pelicans got Julius Randle, who was arguably the Lakers best player, on a below market value contract.
Pelicans got Julius Randle, who was arguably the Lakers best player, on a below market value contract.
Best player on a trash team is still kinda meh for losing Cousins and Rondo. But I guess we also got Elfrid Payton?
Best player on a trash team is still kinda meh for losing Cousins and Rondo.I’d at least look up Randle highlights before passing judgement. He was a beast last season. I’m disappointed the Lakers let Randle walk for nothing. They could have at least gotten a first round pick or something. Jebus...
I saw that earlier and I am going to say it makes sense to pass on Boogie for that short term of a deal considering the injury. Near the tail end of Kobe's career he had the same injury and he really didn't recover from it and wasn't 100% even after a year. Lakers do have Brook Lopez that they can resign still so as long as the Lakers get him or someone else under contract as a center then the sting should be lessened.
I saw that earlier and I am going to say it makes sense to pass on Boogie for that short term of a deal considering the injury. Near the tail end of Kobe's career he had the same injury and he really didn't recover from it and wasn't 100% even after a year. Lakers do have Brook Lopez that they can resign still so as long as the Lakers get him or someone else under contract as a center then the sting should be lessened.
I think it makes sense for the Lakers to pass on him too, even at an MLE.
They are hoping to make the Playoffs.... (Conference) Finals this year. They need that slot filled from beginning of the season till the end of the season.
Warriors could afford to take the risk, because they don't actually need him, at least not right away.
They have Jordan Bell, Damion Jones as young centers. Draymond a the SB Center. Did Zaza and Javale both get released? What about West? Did he retire? and then you have Boogie whenever he's good to go. and that doesn't even account for whatever other vet comes over for the minimum 1-2 year contract
I understand the knee jerk reaction to hearing another all-star joining the Warriors. However, this doesn’t push the needle much for an already great team. I’ve already explained why this both helps and hurts the Warriors so I don’t want to go over that again. The most important bit is that he’s a one year rental. The Warriors don’t have the cap space to re-sign him long-term for the money he wants. The only reason Cousins had his agent call the Warriors is because no one else wanted him coming off an injury. He wanted a max offer from The Pelicans. They offered him $40 million for two years with a second year team option. He refused. He has wanted to join the Lakers for years. They refused (for now) because they want Kawhi Leonard.I agree with you on all that. I am just saying for this season that he is on the Warriors it is going to be pretty much a lock for the warriors to win again. Out east currently I would say the Celtics, 76ers and the Raptors are looking like are coming out of the East as the Finals representitive most likely now that LeBron is out of the East but it is likely none of those can compete with the Warriors.
Cousins is betting on himself to get back to somewhere close to his old form. Joining a team that doesn’t really need him to win games allows him to come back at his own pace. If he proves that he can play at a high level in the playoffs, he gets to re-enter the free agent market next summer when more teams have cap space.
Weren't the Sonics supposed to come back at one point?
This is hilarious.
https://mobile.twitter.com/espn/status/1014351716878340097/video/1
Edit: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B_xP7libTZo
BNM that video is so on point.
Congrats to Toronto. Even without LeBron in your conference, you still find ways to own yourselves.The trade is defensible, but I still laughed out loud in the middle of work. Bravo.
Honestly none of the teams that have 1 game on national TV deserve it.
Honestly none of the teams that have 1 game on national TV deserve it.
Honestly none of the teams that have 1 game on national TV deserve it.
What about the team that has 2?
And I wonder who those 1 games are against.
Since I know everyone is pressed for time and can't follow all the games.
the most exciting game to watch tomorrow will be the Raptors v Bucks game @ 5pm PST
Both teams are 6-0
Kawhi vs Giannis - both are angling for MVP season, and that type of performance will be needed
One of these teams have to walk away with their first loss for the season.
The Dubs are on the back end of another back2back, this time against the Bulls, but I'm 120% sure the Bucks/Raps game is gonna be LIT and therefore the game to watch.
Rename this “The Warriors Thread.”
Did he shave his beard?
Rename this “The Warriors Thread.”
Rename this “The Warriors Thread.”
Why not? Clearly, they already bought another championship.
It was a joke though there’s a grain of truth to every joke. For an NBA thread, it’s largely about one team. I’ve joined in many Warriors discussions here and rooted for them each of the last four years. I even watched and commented on the video you shared of Curry going off a few days ago so your dig about being salty is more than a little dismissive. You’re better than that, man.
I’ll watch highlights of Klay Thompson breaking the three-point record, but the vast majority of the time, I have no interest in watching one team dismantle another. The Warriors were up by like 40 points. Blowouts are hella boring to me.
Derrick Rose dropped 50 points on the Jazz. What year is this?
Blazers seemed to fall apart offensively for a while and Lakers took advantage and built a nice sized lead. We'll see if they can close this out for their 1st win in Portland in quite a while.The Lakers were up by 20 points before the Blazers cut it to six. They’re still having trouble closing out games.
Blazers seemed to fall apart offensively for a while and Lakers took advantage and built a nice sized lead. We'll see if they can close this out for their 1st win in Portland in quite a while.The Lakers were up by 20 points before the Blazers cut it to six. They’re still having trouble closing out games.
How badly do Golden State Warriors fans want to just get into the building for a home game?4-5 All-star Roster is getting a little expensive.... selling seats at the bar and concession stands in the building now.
We'll soon find out. The team sent an email to its fans on Monday offering a monthly "In The Building Pass." The pass simply gets a fan into the team's Oracle Arena for every home game for $100 a month.
The mobile pass does not include a seat, and with no access to the seating bowl, doesn't even include a view of the court itself. The team says fans who purchase the pass will have access to the arena's bars and restaurants and can watch on the televisions in the club areas.
Can't wait for Jimmy Butler to completely destroy whatever is left of Markelle Fultz's sense of worth.
No view of the court? That's just an expensive cover charge. Still might be worth it, if you get the free t-shirts they give out during the playoffs.
And so the best team in basketball takes clues from one of hockey's biggest tire fires. (https://oilersnation.com/2017/04/12/oilers-to-offer-80-concourse-pass-for-playoffs/)
Although given that it's US$100 and for REGULAR SEASON games, I'd say Golden State said "hold my beer".
II really hate the NBA Scheduler sometimes. The Jazz faced the Grizzlies for the 3rd time tonight on the road, and this time they finally came away with a win. Sheesh.Barely 1 month in? Already faced a single team 3x? it's game 12-14 for everyone...
The Warriors suspended Green for one game due to “conduct detrimental to the team” AKA arguing with Kevin Durant when he’s a free agent next summer.
After the loss, the entire team was probably like, “Srsly, bruh,” and Draymond gonna Draymond so he argued back.
Green then accused Durant of making the whole season about him even though he might leave in free agency in 2019. Green aired his frustrations with how Durant has kept his free agency story alive throughout the season.
Green also called Durant a "bitch" multiple times, which is what prompted management to take action.
“With what was said, there is already no way Durant is coming back,” one player said. “The only hope is that they can say this summer, ‘See, KD. We’ve got your back. We protected you from Draymond.’ ”****, I was just joking about the free agency thing earlier. Apparently, that was right on the money. When I try to make serious analysis, I’m way off. I’m bad at basketball hot takes.
Steph Curry isn’t allowed any more MVP awards until he admits the moon landing happened. It’s weird that’s even a thing I typed.
It seems like Cleveland pretty clearly signed McCaw to a deal they knew the Warriors wouldn’t match simply to cut him and get him out of restricted free agency.
The Pelicans are totally going to botch the AD trade and I can't wait for the to move to Seattle in 5 years.
https://twitter.com/_Andrew_Lopez/status/1090778882754691073
New Orleans is being extra petty about this. I hope they get nothing.
This is an example of the Knicks clearing enough Cap Space to get 2 new Max Deals in the summer.Yeah, I get what the Knicks are trying to do. It’s still a weird risk considering their last two major free agent signings were Amar’e Stoudemire and Joakim Noah. Other than the pipe dream of being responsible for bringing the Knicks back on glory, I don’t know why any superstar free agent would consider the Knicks.
This is an example of the Knicks clearing enough Cap Space to get 2 new Max Deals in the summer.
Speculation is they may have heads up that 2 big names already want to go there, and are indeed planning on coming.
that same speculation states Durant and Kyrie.
This is an example of the Knicks clearing enough Cap Space to get 2 new Max Deals in the summer.Speculation is they may have heads up that 2 big names already want to go there, and are indeed planning on coming.
that same speculation states Durant and Kyrie.
My question in all of this is simple.
People have seen what the Knicks Front Office has done the last decade. Knowing that, why would you join them?
EDIT: Or the Knicks are just straight up tampering and already know KD is going to sign with them. Literally the only way this trade makes any sense.
Danny Ainge also requested the Pelicans wait for their offer this summer. Why anyone would even consider dealing with Ainge after he fleeced two franchises is beyond me.
LeBron steaming mad at the way Dallas handled the Harrison Barnes trade.
The concept of players owing any loyalty to their team is dying as we speak. I like it.
EDIT: Also this, https://deadspin.com/report-the-pelicans-invented-a-new-kind-of-tampering-a-1832415741
Like, ok. Great petty move, Dell. People still love LA and will still want to join the Lakers. I get that you want enact some sort of revenge against the franchise but ultimately this looks worse on NOLA and already sabotages was is a non-existent free agent destination.
LeBron steaming mad at the way Dallas handled the Harrison Barnes trade.
The concept of players owing any loyalty to their team is dying as we speak. I like it.
They traded the dude mid-game. I wasn't watching, but damn, that's cold. I think he left during the game, shed his jersey and couldn't have been too happy as he left the arena.
QuoteEDIT: Also this, https://deadspin.com/report-the-pelicans-invented-a-new-kind-of-tampering-a-1832415741
Like, ok. Great petty move, Dell. People still love LA and will still want to join the Lakers. I get that you want enact some sort of revenge against the franchise but ultimately this looks worse on NOLA and already sabotages was is a non-existent free agent destination.
The Lakers are gonna be devastated till atleast until after the All-Star break. but if they don't get it together, and now, they just might put themselves out of a late playoff contention. And they don't exactly have the easiest schedule going forward.
You see the separation on the bench during the last game. LMAO
Lebron may be wishing he took that Philly spot instead. LOL
The Lakers just beat the Celtics after being down 18 points in the first half. They set a franchise high for three pointers made (22). So, right now, Demps’ trolling worked for one game.
I wish everyone would stop giving Lavar Ball a platform.
For some reason, this play didn't make yesterday's highlight reels, but here's Mitchell passing the ball to Golbert off the backboard for a dunk in yesterday's Jazz-Spurs game:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1094368312593604608 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1094368312593604608)
For some reason, this play didn't make yesterday's highlight reels, but here's Mitchell passing the ball to Golbert off the backboard for a dunk in yesterday's Jazz-Spurs game:
https://twitter.com/i/status/1094368312593604608 (https://twitter.com/i/status/1094368312593604608)
Did he get counted for an assist?
It looks like he wasn't attempting to make it considering he didn't throw it like it was supposed to hopefully be close to going in.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1096452173532196864
Was it worth it, Dell?
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1096452173532196864
Was it worth it, Dell?
and the fact that AD is hurt again.
It was a lightweight Curse of Team Lebron this year again.
1st Kyrie with the knee sprain (not serious)
then Klay with the finger sprain/dislocation (not that serious)
now AD with the shoulder injury
Pels thinking, damn.... we shoulda traded his injury proned ass and crippled the Lakers for years to come (as they literally would've had to fill their roster with buyouts and G-leaguers)
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Let's take a look at what a 1-16 would like if the Playoffs were to happen today (p.s. Lakers still miss the Playoffs. LMAO)
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The Lakers just beat the Celtics after being down 18 points in the first half. They set a franchise high for three pointers made (22). So, right now, Demps’ trolling worked for one game.
Still disappointing, and all the more reasoning why they should switch to a 1-16 seed ranking (to hell with the travel, deal with it.)
HOLY **** **NSFL WARNING**
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xvolan-diXY
Yusif Nurkic breaks his leg... just above the ankle. you can hear the snap, it folds back.
and then... and then... the ref kicks him in his flopped foot while stepping over him.
OMG, that was horrific. Watch at your own risk, especially if you have the audio on.
Lets see the first round... Warriors in 5, Rockets in 6, Thunder in 6, Nuggets in 5. Bucks in 4, Celtics in 5, 76ers in 6, Raptors in 4.
Oh, and almost forgot to mention Magic Johnson quit in fashion from the Lakers. Didn't even tell the owner before hand, just held a press conference an admitted defeat and failure.That’s one way of framing it. Another is he’s really close with Jeanie Buss, and if he told her, she would have convinced him to stay which is actually not what’s best for the team. I’m no Magic Johnson stan. Defeat and failure are both accurate. Not telling the owner wasn’t really quitting in fashion though. It wasn’t some final **** you. If anything, it was kind of cowardly.
Oh, and almost forgot to mention Magic Johnson quit in fashion from the Lakers. Didn't even tell the owner before hand, just held a press conference an admitted defeat and failure.That’s one way of framing it. Another is he’s really close with Jeanie Buss, and if he told her, she would have convinced him to stay which is actually not what’s best for the team. I’m no Magic Johnson stan. Defeat and failure are both accurate. Not telling the owner wasn’t really quitting in fashion though. It wasn’t some final **** you. If anything, it was kind of cowardly.
This whole situation is kooky. Buss brought in people she could trust (understandable after her brother attempted a coup), not people who necessarily knew what they were doing. Rob Pelinka is Kobe Bryant’s former agent who apparently most teams hate. Magic Johnson was never around. He apparently wanted to fire both Luke Walton and Pelinka, but Buss refused out of loyalty for people within the “Lakers family.” [insert air jerking motion here]
It's crazy how terrible the Lakers are as an organization currently. LeBron should've gone to the Clippers if he wanted to be in LA so bad.
Okay I am not going to let everyone diss the Lakers like this.The Lakers are my team. I’ll diss them when I feel it’s appropriate. Magic Johnson and Rob Pelinka’s tenure started off pretty well. They managed to get a pick for Lou Williams which they ultimately traded to draft Josh Hart. I didn’t love the D’Angelo Russell trade, but I understood it. We also can’t dismiss what a change of scenery can do for a player so I won’t hold Russell’s rise in Brooklyn against Johnson/Pelinka. Letting Julius Randle walk despite the coaching staff insisting the front office re-sign him was hilariously bad team management. It’s defensible (no Randle means max cap space) but still a worse move. If Randle was on the roster around the trade deadline, the Lakers could have included him in the Anthony Davis trade. Maybe that gets the deal done, maybe it doesn’t. Cutting Thomas Bryant made no sense since he was getting paid rookie minimum wage. Trading Ivica Zubac for *shrug emoji* was just fucking asinine. Last summer’s signings were interesting. They zagged when everyone else zigged. It didn’t work out, but there was a method to that madness.
First of all he LeBron in part moved to LA for his family. He really liked what they had in the young core and the cap space they had in Lonzo, Ingram, Kuzma and Hart. He also said he does want to win championships but for the Lakers because of the history of the franchise. He also said recently that he wants his jersey lifted up in the rafters.
Lakers fires Luke Walton. Rob Pelinka is apparently in charge of the head coach search. Fine.
Hire a President of Basketball Operations then do other stuff. This isn’t difficult.
Man, I didn't think I'd get to use one of my favorite sports gifs already, but here we are. Things come, things go, but the Raptors...are still the Raptors.
(https://thumbs.gfycat.com/SpectacularDigitalGuineafowl-small.gif)
The Raptors have exceeded the most dangerous lead in basketball as of this post.
That Rockets Jazz game.... smfh
They held Harden to 0/15 from the field until the 4th quarter.
Had CP3 at 5 fouls early in the 3rd
and still couldn't manage to put points on the board or create any sort of lead whatsoever.
kept chucking and missing 3's.... wide open too.
Brood.... you ok man?
Your boys look like they bout to be swept.
Can't ask for more of a gift from Houston than the performance they put up today.
had they been playing the Warriors, it woulda been a 20pt+ blowout.
Jazz easily should have maintained at least a double digit lead for the majority of that game.
BROOOOOOD!!!!! Where you at!!!
Are the Jazz about to do it!!!?
are they gonna not get swept and take this back to Houston on Wednesday?
please make it happen!!!!
Honestly, if the Jazz stopped shooting 3's in game 3 and took it to the hole like they did tonight, this might be a 2-2 series right now heading back to Houston.
Thye kept trying to rely on the quick come-back (live by and die by the 3) and it failed them in the long run. Had they just kept chipping away in the paint, it could've been a different game.
If it wasn't for the fact that my Warriors are also playing on Wednesday (thank you for taking the Rockets to at least one more game, starting this Wednesday as well) I would lend you some of that GS Rain and Shine, but I don't want to underestimate the Clippers....
You guys got this.
and Gobert was a liability for that brief 30 seconds he came in at the end of the 4th. Quinn yanked his ass so quick after 2 fuckups in a row, the 2nd just being baffling.
Let's hope they show up in Houston... or is Korver hurt?
I heard something about an injury, and I don't remember seeing him during this game.
But Ingles I don't think I saw take more than 1-2 shots.... meanwhile Rubio chucked up about 5-6 3pt bricks in a row.
I didn't see most of the 1st half, but I tuned in with about 7or so minutes left in the 1st half, so maybe I missed something.
He was over 60% from 27ft and beyond for the series.
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60% over how many shots, over how many games?
When a sample size is this small, how much value do those stats really have?
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This season he was 39.2% (20 of 59).
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This season he was 39.2% (20 of 59).
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Look closely at the claims you are making (or at least, quoting). Do you want to rethink that math?
Or maybe not - that could explain why you think that it wasn't possible to find a better shot when only a single point was needed to win the game?
That's the shot you take when you have a tie game and you get the last shot of regulation. Arguing about shot selection IN THIS INSTANCE is so dumb because THIS IS WHAT DAME DOES. It's crazy y'all out here arguing that Dame will drive past PG (a DPOY candidate) and somehow have a higher percentage shot than the shot he took.That’s how I viewed it. There are like three players in the NBA where I’d think, “Yeah, that’s about right,” after taking that shot even if he missed, and Damian Lillard is two of those guys.
It's a bad shot if PG takes it. It's a bad shot if Russell takes it. It's a bad shot when everyone in Portland except Dame takes it. But it was Dame who took the shot.
Lets see the first round... Warriors in 5, Rockets in 6, Thunder in 6, Nuggets in 5. Bucks in 4, Celtics in 5, 76ers in 6, Raptors in 4.
/me mutters something about the Toronto sports black swan being the Raptors winning a game 1
Help me out, Warriors fans.
I didn't understand the reffing of Warriors v. Rockets, where three point shooters clearly weren't given space to land. I'm not a fan of watching Harden bait for fouls, but this game showed a consistent change from how calls have been made for the past couple of years and clearly in favor of one side. Were shooters pushing their feet forward too far, because it didn't look that way.
Seems like a gift for the Warriors after a tougher-than-expected series against the Clippers.
Curious to see what the last two minute report states.
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But if they ain't gonna call it one way, then don't call it the other way either.
Watching Harden freak out because he's not getting foul calls fills my heart with joy.But, Soren, Harden just wants a fair chance from the refs. (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26629518/rockets-harden-wants-fair-chance-refs)
I mean, I just want a fair chance, man. Call the game how it's supposed to be called, and that's it. And I'll live with the results.
Watching Harden freak out because he's not getting foul calls fills my heart with joy.But, Soren, Harden just wants a fair chance from the refs. (http://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26629518/rockets-harden-wants-fair-chance-refs)QuoteI mean, I just want a fair chance, man. Call the game how it's supposed to be called, and that's it. And I'll live with the results.
Just remember all that bitching by the Rockets in game 1 about dangerous non calls? Calling it fair? Living with the results?
This was also Rockets in game 1:
https://mobile.twitter.com/warriorsworld/status/1122652755292672001/photo/1
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D5R2uKvUcAAJllH?format=jpg&name=small)
This is why you don't take the bait from the boy who cried wolf.
This shot happens to Curry so often, he already adapted to landing limp to avoid injury.
you trippin.
https://deadspin.com/the-lakers-bumbling-courtship-of-tyronn-lue-appears-to-1834626082
I honestly don't know who's worse. The Lakers for this ****-show of a coaching search, or Lue thinking he deserves championship $$ cause he rode LeBron's coattails to a championship.
Despite losing Cousins and having Durant out for a game, Golden State is dangerous - this just changes where the threats come from. But it does remove the sense of inevitability with an MVP-caliber player out. Still, I trust Golden State more than Houston in pressure situations. Harden and Paul have fallen short too often to earn trust - they have to prove it on the court.
Any calls in the Eastern conference? Raps vs Sixers tonight should be interesting; I hesitantly said Toronto in 6 before the series started, but it feels like a toss up now. I still think that Raptors should win the series, but game-to-game success depends on which supporting players manage to show up.
So it is looking like the Bucks are going to advance to the Conference finals. Kyrie didn't show up and things are in doubt for him returning to the Celtics this season. Maybe he teams up with Dyrant in New Yourk with Zion if they get the first pick. He could also join the Lakers or Utah to help along things for both franchises.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1126569206382829568?s=20
KD will be re-evaluated next week which means he is out for Games 6 and 7.
So it is looking like the Bucks are going to advance to the Conference finals. Kyrie didn't show up and things are in doubt for him returning to the Celtics this season. Maybe he teams up with Dyrant in New Yourk with Zion if they get the first pick. He could also join the Lakers or Utah to help along things for both franchises.
The Jazz have Favors and Gobert. They don't need another Center unless they decide to not re-sign Favors during the off-season. They really need a premier player at every other position, most notably Point Guard.
I guess everyone loves game 7s and the Blazers and 76ers don't want to go home yet. They both bounced back for game 6.
I guess everyone loves game 7s and the Blazers and 76ers don't want to go home yet. They both bounced back for game 6.
Ok, I'm an idiot... but how on earth do we embed this in the NWR forums?
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"Youtube" in the brackets, take the "s" out of "https".
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I made a thread specifically for these types of problems. ;)I guess everyone loves game 7s and the Blazers and 76ers don't want to go home yet. They both bounced back for game 6.
Ok, I'm an idiot... but how on earth do we embed this in the NWR forums?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQ70BkPkANM
If this is how BnM is going to be after the semis how is he going to be like after the finals? :P
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But it's just that I really dislike Harden's style of play and CP3, so by extension, The Houston Rockets. All the **** they talk, the hypocritical and petti actions they take, and the flopping... OMG the got damn flopping. To see them win anything is to award the worst of modern basketball.That's pretty much how I view Rockets basketball and why I actively root against them these days. I'm at the point where I'm tired of seeing one team (the Warriors) win all the time, but at least I can defend their style of basketball. Curry's handles/shooting, Thompson's shooting form/defense etc. are *chef kiss*
Watching the Warriors continually win is sometimes boring.That's fair.
But watching Chris Paul lose will never grow tiresome.
We are going to need an more offensive minded assistant because Vogel is more defensive focused.(https://i.imgur.com/Pe1QiBY.jpg)
So it is looking like the Lakers have found a head coach in Frank Vogel with Jason Kidd as an assistant/mentor for Lonzo. While I think that Kidd shouldn't really be in coaching position because he isn't the best coach and other non basketball reasons like his criminal history I guess we are stuck with him. We are going to need an more offensive minded assistant because Vogel is more defensive focused.
It pretty much started after Dr. Buss died in 2013 and there was that time with Jim Buss was running things and he said in 2014 that he would have the Lakers contending in the Western Conference Finals in 3 to 4 years. Jeanie said that she was holding him to that time frame and at least get to the 2nd round by the 2016/2017 season. That didn't happen and Jeanie took over after that season and things haven't really been that good in the front office aside from getting rid of bad contracts ,that Jim Buss signed, like Mozgov and Deng and rebuilding through the draft and having cap space.So it is looking like the Lakers have found a head coach in Frank Vogel with Jason Kidd as an assistant/mentor for Lonzo. While I think that Kidd shouldn't really be in coaching position because he isn't the best coach and other non basketball reasons like his criminal history I guess we are stuck with him. We are going to need an more offensive minded assistant because Vogel is more defensive focused.
I'm ok with the Vogel hire, but a bit baffled at why they bring Kidd in at the same time. It's like they enjoy courting disaster.
When exactly did the Lakers organization become so dysfunctional? Was it ridiculous like this before Jerry Bus passed away, or is it only afterwards that leadership become a sucking void?
Round 2 currently I say Warriors in 7, Denver in 6, Bucks win in 6, Raptors win in 7.
Look at this shot to end the game!!!!
For BnM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=icXd6OPakeA
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But if that's how they gonna play... they bout to have a short series against the Bucks.
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I see them wanting to rest him as much as possible, but not extend the series if they don't need to.
Warriors in 5 is my guess, but I think Dubs in 6 is worse case scenario.
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I see them wanting to rest him as much as possible, but not extend the series if they don't need to.
Warriors in 5 is my guess, but I think Dubs in 6 is worse case scenario.
Tend to agree, although I think (a) they want Durant back on the floor for a few minutes before the series ends to get some time before heading to the finals, and (b) I think you are underestimating how badly Portland wants this.
While ending in 5 games is definitely possible, I like Warriors in 6 this series because I think the Blazers have enough self-confidence and determination to pull a pair of wins - probably one at home and one away? With Durant out for a few games, the match ups are also balanced enough to be interesting IMO.
So.....did Enes Kanter bet money on the Warriors or what? The Portland bigs acting like Steph can't hit threes wide open coming off the pick-and-roll. This was pretty much a gift-wrapped win for GSW.
... in the 3rd quarter and the Warriors were up by 17. ...
Kevin Durant will be re-re-evaluated next week after Game 5. Boogie will also be re-evaluated as well. Doesn't look like either will be ready until the Finals.
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Cancel the damn series. Substitute in the sixers.
It might not be, but it's gotta be better than what I was watching yesterday.
It was like YMCA pick up game. Even the Bucks crowd looked bored to death.
It might not be, but it's gotta be better than what I was watching yesterday.
It was like YMCA pick up game. Even the Bucks crowd looked bored to death.
At this point, the Warriors/Blazers series isn't looking much better.
It might not be, but it's gotta be better than what I was watching yesterday.
It was like YMCA pick up game. Even the Bucks crowd looked bored to death.
At this point, the Warriors/Blazers series isn't looking much better.
Let's see, Blazers had 1 bad loss, 1 close loss, and 1 absolutely pathetically blown half. Honestly going for the worst series in the entire playoffs.
Someone explain to me again how the West is the "stronger" conference?
I disagree, but look forward to seeing how it plays out either way.
... Having Leonard on Giannis since game 3 as the primary defender is very troublesome for the Bucks.
Warriors vs Blazers are always a good match up.
Curry is now 10-0 vs Dame in the playoffs.
... All I can say that though is I hope there is more parity this offseason going forward. Like Durant going East or to the Clippers so things are more balanced. I think the east has been very exciting and balanced with the Bucks, Raptors, 76ers and Celtics being options to win in the east.
Warriors vs Blazers are always a good match up.
Curry is now 10-0 vs Dame in the playoffs.
Those two sentences are a little contradictory, lol.
Any picks regarding who wins tonight?I think the Raptors are going to win tonight in part because they really need to because of what type of injuries Lowry and Leonard have currently. At the very least they can afford to lose game 6 and get some time to recover if game 6 is a blowout and they can put all their efforts to game 7. In any case someone is going to have to win 2 of the next 3 to win the series ,wither it is the next two games or three, someone is going to have to win on the road.
Most analysts still seem to be hedging pretty heavily, with a slight preference to the Bucks.
I have a really hard time seeing Toronto take 3 in a row from Milwaukee though... The Bucks haven't dropped three in a row all year, and their role players should look better at home. Also, Leonard's legs simply don't look right these days. Just watching him hobble around makes me wince.
Kevin Durant named to All-NBA Second Team and Klay Thompson didn’t make any All-NBA teams. Ew.
Wow Raptors win 105 to 99.
I am kinda questioning near the end of the game why there wasn't a foul called when the Bucks pretty much nailed Lowry after 3 Bucks swarmed Leonard. That was a swing moment for the Raptors.
See? Lebron was the problem the whole time.
Gotta say, props to the Raptors for finally making it to the end after so many years of failure.Love that backhanded compliment.
Gotta say, props to the Raptors for finally making it to the end after so many years of failure.Love that backhanded compliment.
Gotta say, props to the Raptors for finally making it to the end after so many years of failure.Love that backhanded compliment.
It is looking like NBA free agency is going to start sooner than usual. Moved up from 12:01 am EST on July 1st to 6pm EST on June 30th. Wonder if Toronto making it to the finals is going to change any plans Leonard has or if he is staying. If he stays I could see the Raptors being the new Cavs.
Cousins still has plenty of time to get things going, and as long as force feeding him shots now doesn't disrupt chemistry there is no harm. Golden State is so stacked, it's hard to see anything really disrupting them without a major injury (or two).
Prediction from Feb 25th:Cousins still has plenty of time to get things going, and as long as force feeding him shots now doesn't disrupt chemistry there is no harm. Golden State is so stacked, it's hard to see anything really disrupting them without a major injury (or two).
Now it's come true; with Durant and Boogie out, and Iguodala on the mend, Raptors can be that disruptive force and win it all!
(I'm still betting on Warriors in 6 though. Raptors are a better team than anyone Golden State has faced in the playoffs except Houston - and I think Raptors could edge out Houston in a series. I'm not sure that Raptors are better then Warriors unless all their poor shooting since playoffs have started means the law of averages is about to swing viciously in their favor - much like what happened for VanVleet last series.)
I have the Raptors winning in 6. ...
The only thing I have to say about tonight.
The only thing I have to say about tonight.
(https://i.imgur.com/5qj3xtx.png)
Congrats to Toronto. Even without LeBron in your conference, you still find ways to own yourselves.
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THIS IS YOUR CHANCE TORONTO DON'T SCREW IT UP.
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Remember Toronto could have been up 3-0.
That didn’t go according to plan.
Refs missed stuff both ways. Raptors had better offensive sets that created more open shots, and also had better team defense that pressured Golden State. Hard to argue that one "got away" when Toronto has pretty consistently outplayed them in virtually every aspect of the game...
KD "expected" to play tonight.This is going to be interesting.
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/D8qyNLkUYAAAKBs?format=png&name=900x900)
My hot take is that regardless of what happens there will be drama with Durant.
Well Durant tried to make a move on Ibaka and he tweaked his leg again. Lets hope it isn't too bad.
OMG. Does Steph always hunt for fouls this badly, and whine and complain when he doesn't get them?
A few of those shot attempts were Houston level BSery.
(I kid you not, I've lost some respect for him this series. The guy has so much pure talent that the flopping and contortions detract from.)
Also, I wasn't watching the game live because I was watching Squeenix's E3 event but holy **** Toronto fans non-stop cheering of KD's injury is downright despicable.
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When you constantly get mauled and the Refs apparently never notice and never give you the call, you start to exaggerate it. Curry has a fat ass scar across his chest from a foul that I didn't see called. Klay has one similar, and if you watch the game closely, you will know that Curry and Klay are constantly fouled w/o a call being made.
Klay got slapped on the elbow during a 3pt shot tonite and they gave the ball to Toronto. He pleaded his case, but somehow the refs missed it. I don't know how often Klay misses a shot that bad without the ball being challenged, but replay showed it was clearly a foul on the shot.
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As to Kerr brushing it off to Myers, Myers was in the back and knew more about the situation since ya know Kerr was coaching the game when Durant went back into the locker room. Just let things lie until we know more about the situation aside from what we know about the Achilles after one day.
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the ghost of KD's Achilles will haunt Toronto for the remainder of this series. That will be the Karmic Kurse of the fan response from the KD injury last game. Toronto will have to make a sacrifice to tip the Karmic scales back to even.
Klay didn't shoot the free throws because he wanted to be eligible to return to the game in the 4th. He shot the free throws because he knew the crowd would lose it once they saw him walk out to the court under his own power.
With .9 seconds left, this is ridiculous. The Raps won, let them enjoy it.
With .9 seconds left, this is ridiculous. The Raps won, let them enjoy it.
Is there still game going on? NBA.com's play by play called the game over.
I knew this moment would happen but I can't believe it sucks so much, specially with the injury to Klay. ...
Can we change the thread title now? (Oh - it's already done, er, ah, sort of..? ;) )
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Leonard was being swarmed by the Warriors so he had to get his points where he could while passing out of the double teams. ...
Hubie I love you but what the ****?
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BnM Dreymond had a tip in when the ball was in the cylinder still and that counted when it shouldn't of. Add the one point for that earlier 3 and subtract the 2 points from the cylinder and the Raptors still win.I ain't even mad.... Disappointed, but not mad. Disappointed not only that we lost, but we lost the last 3 games ever in Oracle. And allowed a first time Finals appearance to celebrate their first time Chip in our locker room.
Emotionally I can see how it is draining for a fan to have all that history in one arena and to not be able to enjoy the last moments in its history. I still remember the night when the Spurs closed down the Lakers for the last moments of the Great Western Forum in the playoffs.BnM Dreymond had a tip in when the ball was in the cylinder still and that counted when it shouldn't of. Add the one point for that earlier 3 and subtract the 2 points from the cylinder and the Raptors still win.I ain't even mad.... Disappointed, but not mad. Disappointed not only that we lost, but we lost the last 3 games ever in Oracle. And allowed a first time Finals appearance to celebrate their first time Chip in our locker room.
Threepeats hardly ever happen for exactly this reason. five finals runs in a row. 3 rings, 2 of them back to back. We've had a good run so far.... it may not be over yet.
Kawhi looks set to bounce from Toronto, so we'll see if they are able to run it back next year.
We may not have KD (anymore) and no Klay for most of the year, but we'll just have to figure out how to adjust... (with no cap space. LOL)
Our luck simply ran out this year, and Curry really couldn't carry the load himself, but he just simply had his break out game on the wrong night.... VanVleet really kept him in check, and hardly ever let him get the space to even take a shot. I can see why he got the lone FMVP vote, because that effort had to be recognized.
BUT..... and this is a HUGE BUT....
We were robbed of a point from the 1st quarter and they never corrected it.
Draymond hit a 3, they ruled it a 2, and no one ever corrected it. I was bitching about it the whole game, I even tweeted @ the Warriors to ask for a review and get it corrected because I knew... I FUCKING KNEW it was going to come back to haunt us.
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Kawhi looks set to bounce from Toronto, so we'll see if they are able to run it back next year.
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Bring Lebron back to the championship next year.
Durant is going to opt in and rehab on Warriors dime. He won us 2 championships he can do that.
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Is this a sure thing? It's definitely an option, but I thought opting out would get him a raise, whether he signs a 2-year deal to have a final run with GS or goes elsewhere for a longer contract.
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Kawhi looks set to bounce from Toronto, so we'll see if they are able to run it back next year.
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Is there any evidence of this, other than competing teams desperately hoping it to be true?
I mean, Toronto can offer the most money, took really good care of him all year, and just won the finals.
Sounds pretty salty to throw this out immediately after your team loses, when nobody seems to have any idea of what he's going to do. Home is where the heart is, but my guess would have been that he signs a one-and-done contract, or maybe a 2-year with player option on the second, to see if they get another championship.
Durant is going to opt in and rehab on Warriors dime. He won us 2 championships he can do that.
I would totally still give Klay the max no questions asked.
Iggy, Dray and Livingston are all signed through the end of 2020. Iggy and Shaun stand to earn 24 million between them next year so it's probably in management's best interest they retire or move on. Normally I would be against that out of loyalty to these dudes but the current injury situation gives them an out. I just don't know who would want Iggy at 17 million, even in his final year.
Bell and Quinn Cook are RFA's. Bell probably stays but I can see a few times making Cook a good offer.
McKinnie is safe for one more year(not fully guaranteed), same with Damian Jones who is making 1st rounder money unfortunately. Jakob Evans has 2 team options and I can see them at least picking up the first one.
Everyone else is unrestricted. They'll let Boogie walk but Looney is the big question mark. It looks like the team finally has a decent enough center to anchor this team so you kinda can't let him walk.
Next year looks very rough if Iggy and Shaun don't get moved/retire.
Durant is going to opt in and rehab on Warriors dime. He won us 2 championships he can do that.
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Also, do people believe that the Lakers will actually get a big free agent signing to pair with James? Somehow I'm skeptical. That franchise is just such a mess right now. It feels kind of like Boston in how they had a bunch of young assets but didn't make the right bets and might end up watching a huge opportunity fade away...
8. Masai Ujiri struck a cop. Yikes. In almost any other situation in this asinine country, a black man hitting cop has a high chance of ending with a dead black man. An unfortunate situation. Ultimately, Ujiri probably doesn’t get charged with anything, but that could have gotten much uglier.
Not saying it is okay just don't let a section of people dictate an entire country.I didn’t. I specifically called out Raptors fans for cheering Durant’s injury. I mentioned Leonard getting a free pass for life in Canada because this is not just Toronto’s first NBA title, it’s the entire country’s. Granted, the Grizzlies fucked off out of Canada almost 20 years ago...
About that.Keep being great, America.
https://twitter.com/rgilliescanada/status/1139607219547320320
There's video of Ujiri as he walks out of the tunnel into the court with his credentials in hand. This entire episode is embarrassing.
Warriors' fan refutes police account of incident
A Warriors fan says he did not see Ujiri strike the deputy in the face.
Greg Wiener, a 61-year-old season ticket holder, said he was standing next to the officer when the encounter occurred.
Wiener said the deputy didn't ask for any credentials before putting his hand on Ujiri's chest and pushing him. Wiener said Ujiri shoved him back before bystanders intervened.
Wiener says he was not interviewed by authorities.
Is it bad that I'm more inclined to believe this account than what the sheriff's office says?No. That is the correct response.
AD will play out the year and enter free agency next season so....good luck with that one year rental LA.
https://twitter.com/ChrisBHaynes/status/1140029550371303425?s=20
AD will play out the year and enter free agency next season so....good luck with that one year rental LA.Maybe, maybe not. Sources: Lakers reach deal for Pelicans' Davis (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/26981805/sources-lakers-reach-deal-pelicans-davis)
Davis has long planned to sign a new contract with the Lakers once he becomes eligible for free agency in 2020, sources said.Anyway, Lakers gave up more than I hoped they would, notably the picks which (after 2019) I'm guessing are 2020 and 2022. Since the deal can't be finalized until July 6, the Lakers will select for the Pelicans on draft night which frees up the 2020 pick from the Stepien Rule. I thought the Lakers could have stood their ground to only give up two picks: 2019 and 2020. I hope the Lakers at least managed some protection like they did with the Steve Nash and Dwight Howard trades.
Per ESPN’s Tim Bontemps, the future picks the Lakers are giving up are:According to Los Angeles Times’ Tania Ganguli, some corrections on the future picks the Lakers are giving up:
1. 2021 (top eight protected, unprotected in 2022)
2. Unprotected swap in 2023
3. Unprotected pick in 2024
4. Unprotected swap in 2025
ESPN’s Bobby Marks suggested one of the pick swaps may be the Lakers “paying” the Pelicans to postpone the trade to July 30 so they can get that extra max slot.
AD is amazing when healthy (but he's also often injured).Robbed is a bit of an exaggeration. We won’t know who wins this trade until all the draft picks are made because none of the players the Lakers traded are as good as Anthony Davis. The last pick is some kid who is currently in middle school.
I feel like the Pelicans absolutely robbed the Lakers given how little leverage they actually had - Davis was leaving regardless. Two picks,twoone swaps, and a few decent players isn't a bad haul all things considered.
Suggesting that Kawhi goes there seems ridiculous based on everything he's said and done so far - just doesn't seem like a good fit for him from a positional/personality standpoint (although obviously the Lakers, like any team, would love to have him). I still hope he signs a 1+1 w/player option contract in Toronto; that would push him to 10 years service and higher possible contracts, let him defend the championship he just won, and keep things stable for one more year in a franchise and city that will bend over backwards to support him. That said, everyone knows he misses being in LA and the Clippers could be a great fit for him.Kawhi Leonard is a mystery. No one knows what he’s thinking. I doubt money is a motivating factor because he’ll get paid anywhere and if he goes to Los Angeles, he’ll make back most if not all money left on the table just by being in a larger market and especially the Lakers because they’re the “glamor franchise.” Personality wise, joining the Lakers would create a strange dynamic. The media would give LeBron James the bulk of their attention yet after the Finals, they seemed to acknowledge Kawhi Leonard as the unquestioned best player in the league (with Kevin Durant tearing his Achilles). Does Leonard get what he wants? The praise without nearly as much attention?
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Robbed is a bit of an exaggeration.
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If a team can land Kawhi Leonard, they should and figure out the rest later. Personally, I’m leaning toward wanting the Lakers use their cap space on great rotation players to fill out the roster around James and Davis rather than chasing another superstar.
But I did think the Lakers should have been able to get a slightly better deal.It may even be worse. According to Woj and Bontemps, currently the plan is for the trade to go through on July 6 and for Anthony Davis to not decline his trade bonus. I have a feeling Davis will decline his bonus to help the team. More importantly, if the Lakers gave up all those assets and couldn’t even manage to get the Pelicans to bend on postponing the trade, it doesn’t bode well for the rest of the summer. Rob Pelinka basically got on his knees then (fill in the rest depending on how dirty you want to make that mental image). Worst case scenario, the Lakers are working with $23.7 million in cap space. Enough to get a few decent rotation guys but not a max contract.
The population of Metro Toronto is about 3 million and I swear, every single one of them is crammed into the parade route. I did enough crowd dodging last week.
... The 2004 Pistons took down prime Shaq and Kobe without a superstar of their own. I don’t think that’s comparable to the 2019 Raptors. ...
The Memphis Grizzlies have traded guard Mike Conley to the Utah Jazz for Grayson Allen, Kyle Korver and Jae Crowder, the 23rd pick in Thursday's draft and a future first-round pick, league sources told ESPN.Broodwars, thoughts?
The Jazz will send a protected 2020 first-round pick to the Grizzlies, league sources told ESPN. That pick will convey as a late lottery pick in 2020 or 2021, or become a lightly protected pick from 2022 to '24. The deal will be complete on July 6.
Sources: Conley sent to Jazz for 3 players, picks (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27008482/sources-conley-sent-jazz-3-players-picks)QuoteThe Memphis Grizzlies have traded guard Mike Conley to the Utah Jazz for Grayson Allen, Kyle Korver and Jae Crowder, the 23rd pick in Thursday's draft and a future first-round pick, league sources told ESPN.Broodwars, thoughts?
The Jazz will send a protected 2020 first-round pick to the Grizzlies, league sources told ESPN. That pick will convey as a late lottery pick in 2020 or 2021, or become a lightly protected pick from 2022 to '24. The deal will be complete on July 6.
I didn’t know enough about the Jazz to comment on whether it was a good trade. Nice that they got their guy. I like Donovan Mitchell so I want the Jazz to be more competitive.
- 2 late 1st round picks that probably never would have amounted to anything anyway.Maybe, maybe not. As a Jazz fan, you especially shouldn’t be dunking on late first round picks. Rudy Gobert was the 27th pick.
Losing Crowder hurts since he WAS the one guy besides Mitchell who showed up in the playoffs, but otherwise the Jazz kind of got away with highway robbery, especially since we still have the cap space to sign a big name 3rd option.I think both teams get what they want. The Grizzlies are doing exactly what they should be doing. They’re
I'm just amazed that Dante Exum lifeless body wasn't part of this trade. The management must have serious faith in him, because he has the health of Greg Oden.Perhaps even the Grizzlies were like:
- 2 late 1st round picks that probably never would have amounted to anything anyway.Maybe, maybe not. As a Jazz fan, you especially shouldn’t be dunking on late first round picks. Rudy Gobert was the 27th pick.
The Jazz have done exceptionally well turning late first round picks into gold. They used the 24th pick and Trey Lyles to trade up for Donovan Mitchell. Mike Conley is probably worth the picks they’re giving up. Have to give something to get something. The Jazz know that better than most teams.
From what I have been reading about the AD trade the Pels are not likely to help out the Lakers with a delay of the trade or with moving pieces around so they may only have 23 million to 27 million depending on if Davis forgos the trade bonus. The Lakers are also trying to shed the contracts of Wagner, Bongo and Jones in the trade to a third team to match ADs incoming contract. So they may not even have enough for a max contract.My understanding is the Lakers can still open up cap space for a max contract, and they're trying to "just in case" Kawhi Leonard, Kyrie Irving etc. are interested. I don't think that's a good enough reason to "scramble" (as Woj put it) to clear Moe Wagner, Isaac Bonga, and Jemerrio Jones from the books. If free agent X agrees to sign, figure it out then. Jones is on a non-guarunteed contract so he can be waived. The Lakers would only need his salary for matching purposes.
I kinda think the Lakers should just use the cap space they have currently on filling out the roster and keeping Wagner, Bonga and Jones as 2nd and 3rd string options.Unfortunately, they're just on the wrong timeline. The Lakers are in win-now mode even though they'll likely re-sign Anthony Davis. They want to make the most of pairing James and Davis. The roster spots are for players who can contribute immediately. Bonga, for example, was always considered a project. That was before the Lakers traded everyone away for a top five player.
Just throwing this out there. Is there any reason to have max cap space but not spend it on a max player? Like maybe getting more players out of the max cap space before using the exceptions and vet min contracts?Already acknowledged and discussed.
While the Lakers being incompetent is hardly surprising, Rob Pelinka not understanding the cap/CBA is.
Does anyone remember Carlos Boozer’s departure from the Cavaliers in 2004? He was due to earn $700,000 on an option year, well below his production at the time averaging a double-double in points/rebounds. There was apparently a gentleman’s agreement between the Cavaliers’ front office and Boozer/his agent. The Cavaliers chose not to pick up the option, allowing Boozer to become a restricted free agent. Instead of signing the Cavaliers’ six year, $41 million offer, he signed the Jazz’s six year, $68 million offer which the Cavaliers could not match. Boozer’s agent was Rob Pelinka. The agency was apparently so horrified by this they dropped Boozer as a client (which almost never happens) and Pelinka resigned. It’s believed he was forced out because he orchestrated the entire thing.
1. This is one of the reasons everyone hates Rob Pelinka.
but anyway, what did the Dubs trade for to give up that #58 pick?
was it cash? 2 more picks? a spare Achilles and an ACL, not to mention 2 ankles, 2 hamstrings, a quad and some chest cartilage?
... described as a Charles Barkley in shape with Kawai Leonards hands at the shooting guard position ...
I wonder if he was Derek Fisher's agent, too, considering the "gentlemen's agreement" that the Jazz organization had with him.I checked Pelinka’s Wikipedia page, and yes.
Hold on. Let’s take a step back. BeautifulShy wasn’t commenting or implying skillset or talent.... described as a Charles Barkley in shape with Kawai Leonards hands at the shooting guard position ...
So a mix of Barkely and Leonard, and still available at the 46th pick? Huh...
*shakes head*
Hold on. Let’s take a step back. ...... described as a Charles Barkley in shape with Kawai Leonards hands at the shooting guard position ...
So a mix of Barkely and Leonard, and still available at the 46th pick? Huh...
*shakes head*
re-contextualizes someone else’s words, the words don’t mean anything anymore.
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I wonder if he was Derek Fisher's agent, too, considering the "gentlemen's agreement" that the Jazz organization had with him.As for Fisher, I won’t pretend I know where the best eye cancer facilities are in the country. I don’t think it’s a stretch that Los Angeles and New York have some of the best doctors in the country. He gave up $24 million over three years to sign with the Lakers as a role player under the 2007 salary cap. There aren’t a lot of things that could make me give up $24 million. “My daughter has cancer” would be one of them.
... described as a Charles Barkley in shape with Kawai Leonards hands at the shooting guard position ...
So a mix of Barkely and Leonard, and still available at the 46th pick? Huh...
*shakes head*
In other news, Durant and Kyrie have had 2 meeting regarding their potential futures together.
Durant is apparently pissed at the Warriors organization following his Achilles injury.
No one knows the full story behind it... and I've only read snippets regarding what I'm posting about right now, but I'm really hoping that Durant doesn't leave just yet.
He should recoup on the Dubs dime, with the possibility of coming back for the playoffs, assuming we make it that far.
He should recoup on the Dubs dime, with the possibility of coming back for the playoffs, assuming we make it that far.
Right now, Cleveland is trying to trade JR Smith and whichever teams that trades for him will waive him. When he's waived, it is my belief he'll end up with the Lakers.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1143906064779362306?s=20
KD opts out. Go get your money, champ.
... and teams will be all like, “Whatever you say, Mr. Durant.”
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it would only make sense to opt out and then re-sign if he plans to stay.
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According to Woj, Lakers now have max cap space after the Wizards agreed to take on Wagner, Bonga, and Jones. Davis is waiving his trade bonus. According to David Aldridge, the Wizards are sending the Lakers cash in the trade.In addition to this the Lakers are sending the Wizards their 2022 second round pick alongside Bonga, Wagner and Jones.
Looks like Kawhi is meeting with the Lakers, Clipper and Raptors when free agency opens up on the 30th. ...
so some role players might gravitate there on cheap contracts...
The latter. I am sure that it is just Klays camp doing their job.
Most likely true... but wouldn't Klay be a perfect fit next to AD and James? Doesn't need the ball, lethal shot, tough defense, and incredibly durable.He would, but he also isn’t playing again until February or March. If the Lakers use the rest of their cap space on a single player, it would be prudent to spend it on someone who is ready to play at the beginning of the season.
So I was reading about Kawhi's meeting with the Lakers and Lebron, AD, Magic and Jennie Buss were planning on meeting him but Kawhi himself has requested that only Magic and Jennie be there at the meeting. So it seems he is all business with the meeting.That sounds made-up. Magic Johnson doesn’t work for the Lakers anymore. Yeah, non-employees have shown up during pitches. It’s still odd. Unless it was a troll request from Leonard’s camp, inviting only Buss and Johnson doesn’t make sense. Jeanie, by her own admission, isn’t that knowledge on the basketball side, and Magic isn’t involved with the team at all. Why wouldn’t at least Rob Pelinka be at the meeting?
Leonard, who is expected to speak to the Lakers in the next few days, had made a personal request that only owner Jeanie Buss and Johnson, the team's former president of basketball operations, be involved in the meeting, sources told ESPN's Stephen A. Smith.1. Word-diarrhea pours out of Stephen A.’s mouth all the time.
Either way there's legitimate reasons why Kahwi would be reticent to join the Lakers, including willingly taking on the third role after leading a Toronto squad. Bomani and Pablo lay it out perfectly. Possible 10(!) guys on minimum contracts!And there are legitimate reasons why he shouldn't reticent to join the Lakers.
https://twitter.com/bomani_jones/status/1144712073466777600?s=20
"Depth" is like eight or nine deep and only 13 players can be on the active roster a night. It wouldn't be that difficult to find decent minimum contract role players after using the mid-level exception.
Given that most playoff rotations shorten to 8 players, that means the Lakers, after signing 1 max player and 1 MLE player, would need 3 extra players worthy of playoff minutes that would also agree to sign for league minimum contracts.There’s no shortage of thirsty vets chasing their first ring. There’s no shortage of vets who made the bulk of their earnings already and are just looking for a winning situation and/or meaningful playing time. The Lakers overpaid Rajon Rondo knowing they’d star-chasing so they could sign him for the minimum this season. Off the bench, sure. Playoff Rondo® is a real thing. There are always players on the buy-out market. If a team is good at scouting (and the Lakers are), there’s value overseas, the G-League, and the so-called “NBA Scrapheap.” People forget Wayne Ellington played for the Lakers in 2014-2015 on a minimum contract. Spencer Dinwiddie was unceremoniously tossed away before the Nets gave him a chance. He’s been playing for peanuts the last couple years before getting a decent extension in December.
I saw it on ESPN about the Magic and Jennie part of it. I guess from my understanding now is that Magic can't formally be in the room for a official meeting with the Lakers organization but he can do something on his own.Just an addendum on this. According to Tania Ganguli, NBA rules don't prevent teams from bringing in non-employees to free agent pitches. The league just didn't want Magic Johnson specifically involved in Lakers free agent meetings because of the bad optics. It would be as if Johnson quit just so he could tamper on his own time, unhindered by the collective bargaining agreement.
Re: Kawhi as a first option on the Lakers, I don't see it. Has LeBron ever ceded control?He just gave up his number for Anthony Davis. It sounds insignificant, but that matters to players. LeBron hasn't had to cede control because he was always the best player on the team which would no longer be true on a team Leonard and Davis. Dwyane Wade famously deferred to LeBron in Miami, and it got them two championships. That said, he's seen it first hand. I certainly have some doubts and understand why others would. At the same time, LeBron is 34 and seems far more self-aware than say, Kobe who was jacking up 20 shots a game at the end of his career.
Also, if Kawhi just wants to win, how appealing is a team with 10 minimum contracts vs rolling back with the defending champs in a season where most of their biggest opponents will likely be down a player or two from last year?This is a hilariously reductive comparison. You very blatantly refused to mention he'd be joining two top seven players at worst. You guys can keep dunking on minimum contracts, but again, salary doesn't dictate skill or contribution. That's true across the entire spectrum. Kemba Walker is going to get paid the same amount of money as Kawhi Leonard next season. No one puts them on the same pedestal. Steph Curry is on a supermax contract now yet he's grossly underpaid and he's only earning ~$2 million more than Chris Paul. Just because someone signs a contract for X dollars doesn't mean that's how much they're worth.
Want him to be the third option, a playmaker who breathes a new and different life into their games while making sure there’s enough oxygen in the locker room for everyone? Consider it done. Want him to use that third eye on the floor to make Leonard and Davis’ jobs that much easier? He’d love to.
After the disastrous debut season of LeBron in Laker Land, where he missed a career-high 27 games (18 because of a groin strain) and missed out on the playoffs for the first time since 2005 after EIGHT consecutive Finals appearances, he has no illusions about the height of the stakes here or the part that he needs and wants to play. And according to a source close to James, it’s this focus on being an incredible teammate that will be at the center of his message to Leonard.
He’ll make it clear that he’s truly willing to tailor his talents around theirs. He might dispel this notion that all the recent Lakers nonsense is their never-ending norm. He’ll candidly discuss the truth about the point he has reached in his legendary career, how his age and all those meaningful miles mean that Leonard and Davis could have the keys to this Lakers kingdom long after his playing days are done.
Lakers Plan C = The Return of D-LoYou don’t say no if Kawhi comes knocking, but man, I’d love to see D’Angelo Russell back on the Lakers. I still follow all the former young core. I’m going to be rooting for the Pelicans. Haymakers aside, I remain a fan of Brandon Ingram.
The cap was only $100,000 short of where the Jazz needed it. Looks like our backup backup Point Guard, Raul Neto, will be the guy on the chopping block. No big loss, really, but it's a bad sign for the upcoming Free Agency Period.Of course, it is because **** the Jazz. Now watch Raul Neto have a breakout year earning Most Improved Player and/or
Not so fast on those Kawhi to the Lakers rumors....
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but why everyone gotta come West!!!? LOL
The East gonna be wide open for someone to rise and FEAST.
... If the above were to happen I would really only see it with the Clippers of those two teams.
Only a few hours left. Do you guys expect a lot of quick moves, or some delays? With Kawhi reported to be taking multiple meetings over a couple of days, and rumors that he and Durant might team up, will a lot of smaller deals get done quick while other teams are left waiting on the big fish?I see a few of the main stars signing quickly like Kemba and Kyrie and then every other main star left on the board will wait for Kawhi and Durants choices before deciding on where to go fully.
Either way, it'll be exciting to see how things play out!
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145435074655117314?s=20Welp.
KD to Brooklyn, via Woj. Pack it in.
KD, Kyrie and DeAndre Jordan.
A lot of guys getting paid. This is 2016 Part II: The Reckoning.
The Jazz are looking into potentially signing Pacers SF Bogdan Bogdanovich. They're meeting with him this afternoon.
https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-free-agency/2019/6/30/20630149/utah-jazz-free-agency-bogdanovich-favors-indiana-pacers (https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-free-agency/2019/6/30/20630149/utah-jazz-free-agency-bogdanovich-favors-indiana-pacers)
Looks like the Suns have their vet point guard in Ricky Rubio 3 years/51 million
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145458984964493312
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I guess when Mirotic decided to go overseas they decided to go after him.The Jazz are looking into potentially signing Pacers SF Bogdan Bogdanovich. They're meeting with him this afternoon.
https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-free-agency/2019/6/30/20630149/utah-jazz-free-agency-bogdanovich-favors-indiana-pacers (https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-free-agency/2019/6/30/20630149/utah-jazz-free-agency-bogdanovich-favors-indiana-pacers)
...Aaaand it's a done deal.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145459162543022080?s=19 (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145459162543022080?s=19)
I guess when Mirotic decided to go overseas they decided to go after him.The Jazz are looking into potentially signing Pacers SF Bogdan Bogdanovich. They're meeting with him this afternoon.
https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-free-agency/2019/6/30/20630149/utah-jazz-free-agency-bogdanovich-favors-indiana-pacers (https://www.slcdunk.com/nba-free-agency/2019/6/30/20630149/utah-jazz-free-agency-bogdanovich-favors-indiana-pacers)
...Aaaand it's a done deal.
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145459162543022080?s=19 (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1145459162543022080?s=19)
The Suns have needed a point guard since Eric Bledsoe went to the Bucks several years ago. They have lots of point guards on the roster but none of them were a good match with Booker and Ayton.Looks like the Suns have their vet point guard in Ricky Rubio 3 years/51 million
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145458984964493312
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Is this a good move by the Suns? I have a hard time seeing the value for them, but maybe I'm just not connecting the dots? (That said, they do have a couple of nice young pieces; maybe Rubio is a good fit?)
Per Ramona Shelburne, “The Knicks and owner Jim Dolan were not prepared to offer Kevin Durant a full max contract due to concerns over his recovery from the Achilles injury.”
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Looks like they are going after Randle.Per Ramona Shelburne, “The Knicks and owner Jim Dolan were not prepared to offer Kevin Durant a full max contract due to concerns over his recovery from the Achilles injury.”
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Yeah, I just read that too... Hahaha... Knicks gonna Knicks.
3 year/63 mil deal to the Knicks.Looks like they are going after Randle.Per Ramona Shelburne, “The Knicks and owner Jim Dolan were not prepared to offer Kevin Durant a full max contract due to concerns over his recovery from the Achilles injury.”
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Yeah, I just read that too... Hahaha... Knicks gonna Knicks.
Per Chris Broussard a couple hours ago: “Kawhi is “Lakers to lose,” I’m told. Not done deal yet, but Lakers are his top choice.”
We’ll see.
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I'd like to think Kawhi has purposely not heard from teams until 6pm today for the sole purpose of being a stickler for the rules.That may be true for the teams but you can bet that the players were all talking with each other. Apparently Kawhi reached out to Durant about teaming up with the Clippers a few days ago and that gave Durant pause on if he wanted to do that or not. That may be why we heard this morning about the KD and Kawhi to Clippers story.
So the Jazz have a major problem at this point: they pretty much gutted their bench to buff up their starting lineup. Right now we're looking at...Well you now have a backup PF/C in Ed Davis now. 2 year/10 million.
Starting PG: Mike Conley
Starting SG: Donovan Mitchell
Starting C: Rudy Gobert
Starting PF: Umm...Royce O'Neal?
Starting SF: Joe Ingles or Bojan Bogdanovich
Bench:
PG: Raul Neto or the corpse of Dante Exum
SG: ?
C: ?
PF: Georges Niang
SF: Joe Ingles or Bojan Bogdanovich
That is not a great bench. We might end up using those newly-drafted 2nd rounders more than the Jazz usually do.
Looks like Jimmy Butler is going to Miami in a sign and trade. Josh Richardson heading to the 76ers. 4 year for Butler.This trade also sends Goran Dragić, Luka Dončić‘s former roommate, to the Mavericks for salary matching purposes. The Heat are hard capped this year, but Hassan White is off the books next summer. Not screwed, but Butler’s first year may be rocky. EDIT: Shams is saying not. EDIT 2: he deleted the tweet.
This was just updated. Mavs get Kelly Olynyk and Derrick Jones instead of Dragic.Looks like Jimmy Butler is going to Miami in a sign and trade. Josh Richardson heading to the 76ers. 4 year for Butler.This trade also sends Goran Dragić, Luka Dončić‘s former roommate, to the Mavericks for salary matching purposes. The Heat are hard capped this year, but Hassan White is off the books next summer. Not screwed, but Butler’s first year may be rocky. EDIT: Shams is saying not.
Fun Fact 1: In 2013, Jimmy Butler said he’d never wear a Miami Heat Jersey.
Fun Fact 2: The Heat retired #23 for Michael Jordan, a player who never played for the team. No worries. Jimmy Butler wore #33 at Marquette. The Heat retired #33 in 2009, Alonzo Mourning’s number.
Who knows which number Butler will choose? The Heat should let him wear #3 because they clearly have no idea what they’re doing.
I would have preferred Dragić. And he only has one year left of it doesn’t work out.I guess Dallas wanted to make more moves.
... Apparently Kawhi reached out to Durant about teaming up with the Clippers a few days ago and that gave Durant pause on if he wanted to do that or not. That may be why we heard this morning about the KD and Kawhi to Clippers story.
Smaller moves: Mike Muscala is heading to the Thunder, Pels are looking to sign Derrick Favors, Mario Hezonjia is heading to the Trailblazers for a 1 year minimum with a player option.And Nerlens Noel was returning to the Thunder before asking for more time. “jkjkjk LOL! Teams still have cap space.”
And Nerlens Noel was returning to the Thunder before asking for more time. “jkjkjk LOL! Teams still have cap space.”
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With the KD and KL it is from Brian Wendwerst saying it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UYmsikwMt3Q About at the 2:48 mark in the video.
Warriors are on verge of acquiring Russell, Treveon Graham and Shabazz Napier from Brooklyn, league sources said.
Golden State is trading Andre Iguodala to the Memphis Grizzlies, league source tells ESPN. Warriors are sending a 2024 protected first-round pick in the 2024 (protected 1-4), 2025 (protected 1) and 2026 unprotected.
W/ Iguodala trade, Russell and Klay both maxes and dump Livingston's GT, GSW 5 players. A mere $18.2m below the hard cap to fill out 9 roster slots. Even if they keep McKinnie, Graham, Napier NG, $13.1m for 6. Goodbye Looney, Cousins, Cook, possibly Bell.Current Warriors roster
https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1145533354730766338
Damnit ShamsQuoteWarriors are on verge of acquiring Russell, Treveon Graham and Shabazz Napier from Brooklyn, league sources said.
Looks like the Warriors need to unload some salary to make this work so Iggy could be on the move.
From Woj:QuoteGolden State is trading Andre Iguodala to the Memphis Grizzlies, league source tells ESPN. Warriors are sending a 2024 protected first-round pick in the 2024 (protected 1-4), 2025 (protected 1) and 2026 unprotected.
This is how the Warriors end up after the Iggy trade.QuoteW/ Iguodala trade, Russell and Klay both maxes and dump Livingston's GT, GSW 5 players. A mere $18.2m below the hard cap to fill out 9 roster slots. Even if they keep McKinnie, Graham, Napier NG, $13.1m for 6. Goodbye Looney, Cousins, Cook, possibly Bell.Current Warriors roster
Steph Curry
Klay Thompson
D'Angelo Russell
Draymond Green
Alfonzo McKinnie
Jacob Evans
Damian Jones
Jordan Poole
Eric Paschall
Shabazz Napier
Treveon Graham
Alen Smailagic
Eric Paschall
Shabazz Napier
Treveon Graham
Alen Smailagic
Question... So the Warriors offered Qualifying offers to Bell, Cook and Damian Lee. Can they go over the cap to sign them back or will they have to let them go because they are over the cap now?
Shabazz is barely a slightly above replacement-level. Honestly I still love Livingston more than him but there's very little we could get in return for him.
... The Sixers lost to the Raptors on a last second shot in Game 7, ...
Looney is back, baby! 3 years, 15 million.
Thoughts about Willie Cauley-Stein signing on the cheap in Golden State? I rarely see the Kings play, but he always looked good when I caught a game. Getting a young big like that super cheap seems like a huge win for the Warriors?Maybe they are building for the future and developing players for when Steph,Klay and Green are not around and it is an easy and cheep way of helping their bench which has been critized this past season. I like it.
Thoughts about Willie Cauley-Stein signing on the cheap in Golden State? I rarely see the Kings play, but he always looked good when I caught a game. Getting a young big like that super cheap seems like a huge win for the Warriors?Excellent signing because the Warriors’ lack size. He’s a raw talent that can use a better situation to take his game to a new level. Additionally, this is exactly what I meant when y’all were dunking on guys who sign for the minimum (though I think Cauley-Stein signed for slightly above the minimum). Players who take less aren’t always just end of the bench guys. It depends on what else they can get that don’t have monetary value. The Warriors can offer Willie Cauley-Stein meaningful minutes/a chance to rebuild his value on a winning team, structure, veterans with championship pedigree, probably a better training staff than the Kings, definitely a better coaching staff etc. etc.
Looks like the Suns have cleared the nessessary cap space to sign Rubio outright. Suns sent Josh Jackson, De'Anthony Melton and two second round picks to the Grizzlies. This does make some sense for the grizzlies since they are rebuilding. Grizzlies are sending over Kyle Korver and Jevon Carter. Korver is likely going to be bought out.
Only Okobo is left on possible players that need to be moved.
Lineup for the Suns: PG - Ricky Rubio, Tyler Johnson, Ty Jerome, Jevon Carter, Jalen Lecque
SG - Devin Booker, Cameron Johnson
SF - Kelly Oubre Jr., Mikal Bridges
PF - Dario Saric, Frank Kaminsky
C - Deandre Ayton, Aron Baynes
Reports are saying the Lakers, Bucks and 76ers are the front runners for Korver from what I have read.Looks like the Suns have cleared the nessessary cap space to sign Rubio outright. Suns sent Josh Jackson, De'Anthony Melton and two second round picks to the Grizzlies. This does make some sense for the grizzlies since they are rebuilding. Grizzlies are sending over Kyle Korver and Jevon Carter. Korver is likely going to be bought out.
Only Okobo is left on possible players that need to be moved.
Lineup for the Suns: PG - Ricky Rubio, Tyler Johnson, Ty Jerome, Jevon Carter, Jalen Lecque
SG - Devin Booker, Cameron Johnson
SF - Kelly Oubre Jr., Mikal Bridges
PF - Dario Saric, Frank Kaminsky
C - Deandre Ayton, Aron Baynes
I'm going to laugh if after ALL that, Korver ends up right back on the Jazz again. ;)
So Jalen Rose is "99% certain" that Kawhi is heading back to the Raptors. Which sounds to me like nobody outside of Kawhi's camp has any idea yet - although with warnings from Kawhi's camp that teams shouldn't leak any information maybe that's not accurate?Yeah I think lots of folks are just speculating at this point. Jalen also said that Kawhi was going to the Clippers a few days ago with I think Butler. So we shall see. I guess his uncles birthday is on Friday so I kinda expect a decision either tonight or tomorrow.
Feels like his decision is in the home stretch now though! Fourth of July announcement maybe?
I'm going to laugh if after ALL that, Korver ends up right back on the Jazz again. ;)
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1147383197640134656?s=20
lol
On the bright side, now the Lakers have all the cap room they can use to sign--bwahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahaha...
EDIT: OH **** PG TO THE CLIPPERS TOO
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1147383639036092416
Well with these moves from the Lakers they have 11 mil left in cap space.Help me with the math; I was an English major. I have the Lakers with about $5 million plus the room MLE left. I would definitely bring back Alex Caruso. I'm sure the Lakers are looking into DeMarcus Cousins, Quinn Cook, Trey Burke, and Marcus Morris. If they get all of them, that's still a solid roster. The Lakers are likely holding out hope they can eventually snag Andre Iguodala and Goran Dragić on the buyout market. The Grizzlies and The Heat are currently exploring trades though.
Collective sigh of relief from the rest of the league.Lets assume these are flat contracts with no bonuses and the Lakers have spent 30 mil of the 32 mil. However since the Lakers have signed 4 players using the cap they get back the minimum roster holds. So that is 3.6 mil and then the 2 mil and that leaves 5.6 mil and the room exception of 4.9 mil.
Leonard to the Clippers alone didn't make much sense to me. Max Kellerman was calling that team title favorites. With Paul George, yeah, that makes a lot of sense. Everything I said about the Lakers trading a bunch of picks for Anthony Davis applies to the Clippers. They won't need those picks as long as they have guys people want to play with. There's value in the buy out market and minimum salary players looking for playing time/title contention etc. etc. I won't say I'm not disappointed. Leonard on the Lakers would have been amazing. Still, I like competitive basketball, and the balance of power is a lot more even now.
The Lakers are doing fine filling out the roster. The 2020 free agent market is not great so signing Danny Green, Kentavious Caldwell-Pope, and JaVale McGee to two-year deals makes sense. They're positioning themselves to have the latter two with Bird Rights in 2021 when LeBron James can opt out. All three are tradable assets. The Lakers currently have eight players. A lot of the splashier names are off the board, but I wouldn't want to sign some of those guys to the contracts they got in either years or dollars depending on the player.Well with these moves from the Lakers they have 11 mil left in cap space.Help me with the math; I was an English major. I have the Lakers with about $5 million plus the room MLE left. I would definitely bring back Alex Caruso. I'm sure the Lakers are looking into DeMarcus Cousins, Quinn Cook, Trey Burke, and Marcus Morris. If they get all of them, that's still a solid roster. The Lakers are likely holding out hope they can eventually snag Andre Iguodala and Goran Dragić on the buyout market. The Grizzlies and The Heat are currently exploring trades though.
I expect the Lakers to sign Carmelo Anthony. I don't have to like it. You can't make me.
So who are our best guesses at Title Contenders in the East and the West for this upcoming 19/20 Season?Here go fave this page and read it often.
Top 5 in each conference (will the East have that many?).
In the West I can already see:
Clippers
Lakers
...
... (Jazz? Blazers? Rockets?)
Warriors
In the East:
...
:tumbleweed:
76ers
... I have no idea what happened in the East...
... Pacers, Bucks?
Someone clue me in, I didn't follow all the trades
So who are our best guesses at Title Contenders in the East and the West for this upcoming 19/20 Season?
Top 5 in each conference (will the East have that many?).
In the West I can already see:
Clippers
Lakers
...
... (Jazz? Blazers? Rockets?)
Warriors
In the East:
...
:tumbleweed:
76ers
... I have no idea what happened in the East...
... Pacers, Bucks?
Someone clue me in, I didn't follow all the trades
I think the main person in the laker blogosphere I am seeing is Marcus Morris but he may not come.Yeah, I'm hoping the Lakers can sign both Avery Bradley and Marcus Morris.
The Spurs landed Marcus Morris for two years, $20 million. I was really hoping the Lakers could pull that off.Spurs have been going after the Lakers options since the draft. They took Luka Saminac then. https://www.silverscreenandroll.com/2019/6/20/18693432/2019-nba-draft-lakers-second-round-pick-options-talen-horton-tucker-jontay-porter-luka-samanic
The Lakers bring back Alex Caruso for two years, $5.5 million. Good.He's earned it after what he did during the tail end of the year when pretty much everyone was injured.
The Lakers signed Zach Norvell Jr. to a two-way contract. He’s been the best player on the Summer League roster.That he has unfortunately I think due to rest he wasn't able to play versus the Clippers. Summer League roster came back from 22 in the 2nd half to tie it but they were not able to finish them off without THT and Zach Norvell Jr. 93-87
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East:
- Nets
- Pacers
- 76ers
- Raptors
- Bucks
Patrick McCaw is just Norris Cole 2.0.
The Spurs landed Marcus Morris for two years, $20 million to the Spurs. I was really hoping the Lakers could pull that off.This deal has been changed. He is going to the Knicks after the Knicks found extra cap space from the reworked Reggie Bullock deal.
Kawhi Leonard signed a three year deal with a player option to match years with Paul George’s contract. They can reenter free agency in 2021. This is win-win for Leonard. He gets an early out if things don’t mesh. Either way, he’ll be eligible for the 10-year max in a year when teams are angling to have cap space again.Everyone is shooting for that 2021 free agency class. Giannis being the main one before the free agency moves this year but now there is LeBron, Kawhi, Paul George, DeRozan, McCollum, Jrue Holiday, Gobert, AD, Beal, Oladipo, Randle, Danny Green, Zion, Ja Morant, Ayton, RJ Barrett, Lonzo Ball, Luka, Trae Young, Fox, Coby White, and Kuzma. Very exciting free agency that one I feel.
The Clippers gave up a lot of picks for possibly a two-year title window. 100 times out of 100, you make that move. It’s still super risky. The Clippers better hope Kawhi and PG don’t leave in 2021 because they have no protections on draft picks for the next five years starting in 2022 when they would absolutely be bad after losing two all-stars for nothing. Now, imagine the Clippers losing said all-stars to the Lakers of all teams... absolute darkest timeline.
So OKC got to dump WB, but in exchange had to take on CP3, but for the inconvenience they also got 15 1st round picks from the Rockets!?
Initially, I thought both teams lost in this trade, but OKC wins this one hands down.
CP3 is a better commander than WB and the treasure trove of picks allows them to rolld the dice multiple times each year in hopes of landing something beyond decent.
Also CP3 gets $124 million to cosplay late-career Allen Iverson. Congrats, Chris!Soren has like all of my favorite posts in this thread.
Question now is Paul staying or if he being traded. Maybe to the Lakers to get a quality point guard and join up with the Lakers in a trade that should of happened sooner(Basketball Reasons)/fellow Banana Boat friend LeBron James or would Miami would be a better fit with Jimmy Butler?Unless the Lakers give up LeBron James or Anthony Davis, they don’t have the contracts to make that trade work even after December 15.
even still, Rockets are gonna be worse next year. LOLI mean I think with the Rockets it might work out for them because you have an aggressive point guard who will draw attention and Westbrook is such a good passer that he can pass it out to the many Rockets 3 point threats including Harden. I also think that Capella is going to improve with Westbrook being the facilitator. The way I see things working is that Westbrook can play on ball most of the game and Harden can play off ball but when the Rockets need clutch shots they can iso with Harden. I also think that in those times where harden is playing on ball Westbrook can play that mid range game that the Rockets have lacked for several years. With them it is either the 3 ball or up close. I think Westbrook brings that midrange game.
OKC still won that trade.
I just read the story elsewhere and got the details of the trade, so I get it now.
WB had OKC perpetually circling the drain in the 1st round of playoffs, leading with false hopes of triple doubles.. They needed to make a change.
At least they don't have that false hope with CP3.
Who is gonna be the main ball handler on the Rockets next season?
I just don't see how this works. They just gonna take turns?
What's WB gonna do when no one is boxing out just so he can take the rebounds?
I'm not sure how they can move CP3. I think I saw on Twitter that he was interested in the Heat and Jimmy Butler, but even then his contract is waaay up there.The Heat have the contracts for salary matching purposes. The problem is the Thunder want to move toward not paying the luxury tax or at least a smaller bill. They took on less salary in both of the most recent trades and got a bunch of draft picks. Moving Chris Paul again isn’t impossible. If the Heat are motivated, they can probably figure this out. Goran Dragic, Meyers Leonard, and ballast work for matching purposes. Dragic and Leonard are on expiring deals which is exactly what Sam Presti is looking for. Failing that, the Heat can probably find a third team for help.
I try not to blame athletes for taking the money, but if he wanted a title, he should've made himself cheaper.Chris Paul is president of the NBPA. I vaguely remember reading that signing the contract he did, despite giving up an extra year, was partially symbolic. The ability for players to sign similar max/near-max contracts was a sticking point in negotiations. And if Paul didn’t get that contract, it’d make the players look weak. But yes, dude also wanted to get paid.
even still, Rockets are gonna be worse next year. LOLI mean I think with the Rockets it might work out for them because you have an aggressive point guard who will draw attention and Westbrook is such a good passer that he can pass it out to the many Rockets 3 point threats including Harden. I also think that Capella is going to improve with Westbrook being the facilitator. The way I see things working is that Westbrook can play on ball most of the game and Harden can play off ball but when the Rockets need clutch shots they can iso with Harden. I also think that in those times where harden is playing on ball Westbrook can play that mid range game that the Rockets have lacked for several years. With them it is either the 3 ball or up close. I think Westbrook brings that midrange game.
OKC still won that trade.
I just read the story elsewhere and got the details of the trade, so I get it now.
WB had OKC perpetually circling the drain in the 1st round of playoffs, leading with false hopes of triple doubles.. They needed to make a change.
At least they don't have that false hope with CP3.
Who is gonna be the main ball handler on the Rockets next season?
I just don't see how this works. They just gonna take turns?
What's WB gonna do when no one is boxing out just so he can take the rebounds?
Now as far as both teams if Paul stays with the Thunder then I think they could make it to the second round and lose to one of the LA teams going forward. Maybe the Rockets gel and they may upset one of the LA teams and makes it to the WCF and see where things go from there.
QuoteI try not to blame athletes for taking the money, but if he wanted a title, he should've made himself cheaper.Chris Paul is president of the NBPA. I vaguely remember reading that signing the contract he did, despite giving up an extra year, was partially symbolic. The ability for players to sign similar max/near-max contracts was a sticking point in negotiations. And if Paul didn’t get that contract, it’d make the players look weak. But yes, dude also wanted to get paid.
So, AD will be wearing number 3 this season. This is after LeBron said he'd switch back to 6, but Nike stepped in and said "No can do, we already printed a year's worth of 23 jerseys". The deadline to switch numbers is apparently in March, for some reason.I guess that March deadline is so all the players that get traded at the February trade deadline can be made jerseys for their new team. Still this offseason I have learned more about the NBA than in years past.
Nike drawing a line in the sand just seems weird to me. Trades and free agency will always make printing jerseys somewhat perilous. In this instance, James and Davis have both said they’re switching to #6 and #23 respectively just in 2020 now. Nike is going to end up with extra jerseys either way. Seems easier to just take the L on the extra James #23 printed so far.
So, AD will be wearing number 3 this season. This is after LeBron said he'd switch back to 6, but Nike stepped in and said "No can do, we already printed a year's worth of 23 jerseys". The deadline to switch numbers is apparently in March, for some reason.I guess that March deadline is so all the players that get traded at the February trade deadline can be made jerseys for their new team. Still this offseason I have learned more about the NBA than in years past.
The Lakers claimed Kostas Antetokounmpo off waivers and signed him to a two-way contract. Hmm, I wonder why they did that.........Maybe they are trying to get good young players to develop using their 2 ways so they have some options going forward... But it is likely what everyone is thinking. 2021!
The Lakers claimed Kostas Antetokounmpo off waivers and signed him to a two-way contract. Hmm, I wonder why they did that.........
”I'm talking more about the Anthony Davis situation," Kerr told The Warriors Insider Podcast. "Where a guy is perfectly healthy and has a couple years left on his deal and says, 'I want to leave.' That's a real problem that the league has to address and that the players have to be careful with.Shut up, Steve Kerr. Just shut the **** up.
"When you sign on that dotted line, you owe your effort and your play to that team, to that city, to the fans. And then it's completely your right to leave as a free agent. But if you sign the contract, then you should be bound to that contract.”
Kerr: Forced trade by Davis 'bad for the league' (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27250922/kerr-forced-trade-davis-bad-league)Quote”I'm talking more about the Anthony Davis situation," Kerr told The Warriors Insider Podcast. "Where a guy is perfectly healthy and has a couple years left on his deal and says, 'I want to leave.' That's a real problem that the league has to address and that the players have to be careful with.Shut up, Steve Kerr. Just shut the **** up.
"When you sign on that dotted line, you owe your effort and your play to that team, to that city, to the fans. And then it's completely your right to leave as a free agent. But if you sign the contract, then you should be bound to that contract.”
I will admit I’m biased because as stated numerous times, I typically always side with players on these matters. My major issue is primarily the bolded part because it completely ignores the fact that teams have the autonomy to trade players who may not want to play for a particular team or in a particularly city. The implication is that players should honor the contracts they sign, but teams don’t have to honor the contracts they offer players. Motherfucker, you were a player. What are you talking about?
Let’s not ignore the fact that Kerr coaches the Warriors, a team that just jettisoned Andre Iguodala, a guy who gave his heart and soul to the team for six years, to what is projected to be one of the worst teams in the league this season. Granted, the trade made sense from a business perspective. And Kerr said the trade was “devastating” for him. Of course, he isn’t going to dunk on his employer, but this is exactly why he should shut the **** up.
It’s also really weird that Kerr would point directly to Anthony Davis. First, players have been requesting trades for decades. Paul George demanded a trade twice in three years. Second, the Pelicans did nothing for seven years after drafting a generational player. Dell Demps signed bad contracts and kept trading draft picks. I don’t blame players like Davis for wanting to peace out. If it was a good situation, they’d be more likely to stay.
I'm kind of with Kerr on this, mainly because I've had a chip on my shoulder regarding player entitlement since the 90s due to an asshole named Rony Seikaly.I read that article. Seikaly forfeited money to facilitate a trade then demanded the money he previously forfeited. The Jazz refused so he didn’t report to the team. That isn’t remotely the same thing I’m talking about.
You sign them, you honor them.Fine, but then teams should be held to the same standard. They offer a contract to a player, honor the contract then. There should be no trades unless literally every single person involved agrees to the terms. Chances are, very few trades would actually get made. I’m fine with teams trading players because again, the NBA is a business. If a team thinks it can improve in the short or long-term via a trade, they absolutely should. That’s the same reason I support players that demand trades. Players generally don’t want to leave favorable situations.
Yeah, I disagree pretty solidly. A contract should be (a) negotiated before being signed, and (b) binding afterwards unless there is some kind of unusual or unexpected circumstance.Again, fine, teams should be held to the same standard. If it's binding, then a player shouldn't be allowed to be traded without their consent. Do you agree?
If you don't want to be traded, negotiate a no-trade clause (or at least a trade kicker) or sign shorter contracts.No trade clauses have stipulations: eight years experience and four years with the same team (doesn't have to be consecutive). Anthony Davis was ineligible. More importantly, no trade clauses are extremely rare. Steph Curry wasn't even able to negotiate a no trade clause or an option on his final year. Yes, that Steph Curry.
Getting traded against your will might earn some sympathy, but a superstar who simply decides not to honor a massive contract with the team that originally signed him, and then forcing his way out like what happened with Davis only makes NBA players look bad.Getting a trade demand against your will might earn some sympathy, but a team that simply decides not to honor a massive contract with a player who originally wanted to sign, and then forcing him out like what happened with [Demar Derozan, Blake Griffin, Chris Paul etc. etc.) only makes NBA teams look bad.
There are certainly some unfair and unreasonable things that players have to ensure, but this specific situation with Davis is clearly not one of them.Why not? Kerr said, "When you sign on that dotted line, you owe your effort and your play to that team, to that city, to the fans." What does a team owe the player, city, and fans? Davis originally wanted to be in New Orleans; the Pelicans failed to build a winning team around him for seven years. He got tired of it. Davis could have played out his contract and left the Pelicans with nothing. Then, owners and people like Kerr who forgot they used to be players would complain about that. Instead, Davis got to the team he wanted to play for, the Lakers got the player they wanted, and the Pelicans got young players and draft assets. Both the Lakers and Pelicans are going to be good next year. How is that not good for the NBA? (And yes, it sucks for Ingram, Ball, and Hart because they didn't choose to be traded)
I understand you have problems with the established system regarding teams and trades. That's fine. Fighting to empower players and give them fairer contracts is totally ok by me. But that doesn't mean you can just disregard the established system - which does provide reasonable compensation for players in the vast majority of cases - whenever you feel like itI actually don’t have a problem with the established system. If a player wants to pay the league fine for publicly requesting a trade, that’s on them. They don’t have to like their situation, but they still have to go to work (or face consequences of not going to work like any other job). As long as they do, I don’t have a problem with it. 99% of the time they keep going to work so they are upholding their end of the contract.
Your comparison of teams trading players (and following all rules of the contracts signed and the long-establish system in the process) and players forcing their way out of contracts simply isn't valid.Except players can’t actually “force their way out” and that’s because of their contract. A team doesn’t have to trade anyone, and I feel like that’s a piece many people like Kerr are missing or flat-out ignoring. Players can request/demand a trade and complain all they want, but they are bound to their contract. If they don’t attend practice, games etc., the team and/or league can fine them basically up to their entire yearly salary (maybe more, I’d have to check the CBA again). The comparison is valid because this isn’t about breaking contracts or “forcing their way out” since players can’t do either. I’m advocating for a player’s right to say, “I don’t want to play here anymore” just as its a team’s right to say, “I don’t want this player anymore.”
Yeah, if there's one thing I wish they would implement, it's a hard salary cap: no going over it, period. That would stop "Super Teams" quickly enough, and would certainly prevent the Big Market Teams from just spending whatever they want to buy their talent.LOL, the Jazz were ~$11 million above the salary cap last season and are ~$8 million above the salary cap this season.
As it stands, they can afford to just pay the luxury tax if they're so inclined, which Small Market teams cannot do.Yes, small-market teams goddamn can, and it’s weird that you think this. The owners of professional sports teams are billionaires. They absolutely can afford to pay the luxury tax; they just don’t want to pay it. That’s fine; they don’t have pay the luxury tax if they don’t want to, but they also don’t have to own a professional sports team. Pardon me for not shedding a tear for billionaire owners of small market teams.
LOL, the Jazz were ~$11 million above the salary cap last season and are ~$8 million above the salary cap this season.
Yes, and do you have any idea how rare that is? If this site is anything to go by, that would only have been the 3rd or 4th time in the franchise's history that they'd ever done that. It's just not something the Jazz are known for doing.I don’t care how rare it is. That’s irrelevant. Point is, the Jazz can afford to go over the cap, have gone over the cap, and are currently over the cap. For that extra spending, the Jazz are going to be fucking awesome this season. You’re championing a hard cap when the team you support is benefiting from not having a hard cap and stands to benefit in the near future. Implementing a hard cap means no Bird rights since the entire point of Bird rights is to go over the cap to retain players. Donovan Mitchell, for example, has two years (including this season) on his rookie contract with the last year being a player option. With a hard cap and no Bird rights, I hope you’d enjoy seeing Mitchell play for another team.
Every team can afford to go over the cap. Hell, every team could afford to play in a system without a salary cap. Some owners are just more brazen about their motives than others.
https://stats.nba.com/schedule/#!?TeamID=1610612744&PD=N
Damn, we play the Thunder 3 times in the first 30 days..... they trying to dispense that off our books as quickly as possible. LOL
Some good warm up games from them before we really gotta turn it on leading up to the Xmas game.
aaaaaaaaaand Boogie tore his ACL.
I think this is pretty much it for his career.
Lakers fans must be holding their breath that this whole thing doesn't go up in smoke...Not really.
Finally Howard is Howard and is he the best fit with the Lakers?
I feel like you are being a smart butt with that comment and considering how that season went I may not be up for it this time around.Finally Howard is Howard and is he the best fit with the Lakers?
Absolutely. They can re-create this iconic image, only with Anthony Davis:
(https://i.imgur.com/AynHS98.jpg)
On the one hand, yes that ended up not being the best look. But on the other hand, wasn’t it the last time the Lakers made the playoffs?I hate to say it was the last time the Lakers made the playoffs... I blame Dwight for our 6 and 7 year playoff drought. Wouldn't of had to rebuild these years if not for him and chemisty issues.
But yes, I was mostly being a smartbutt. :P
On the one hand, yes that ended up not being the best look. But on the other hand, wasn’t it the last time the Lakers made the playoffs?I hate to say it was the last time the Lakers made the playoffs... I blade Dwight for our 6 and 7 year playoff drought. Wouldn't of had to rebuild these years if not for him and chemisty issues.
But yes, I was mostly being a smartbutt. :P
Anyway SS&R did a video on who should get the 15th roster spot.For BnM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OrPQ5eUnO_Y
I hate to say it was the last time the Lakers made the playoffs... I blade Dwight for our 6 and 7 year playoff drought. Wouldn't of had to rebuild these years if not for him and chemisty issues.Ew, no. If anything, Dwight Howard did the Lakers a big favor by not re-signing. He was already on the decline due to back surgery. Howard had some decent years after he left, but he never regained his Magic form. With Kobe coming off a ruptured Achilles, how good would that team have been? Howard would have made the Lakers better but not good which means they would have lost all of those draft picks. Because the Lakers sucked so bad, they only owed the Magic two second round draft picks due to the Stepien Rule.
The Australian team must be under some pressure after losing to Canada and then US. I'm sure by the time the actual tournament starts they'll find their groove though.
The Australian team must be under some pressure after losing to Canada and then US. I'm sure by the time the actual tournament starts they'll find their groove though.
Re: Team USA
So that whole "looked good in a victory over Australia" thing didn't last long...
Australian National team is now 1-30 against US National team after that victory.
I don't read too much into that result. Took a come back behind huge play from Mills, and every team loses eventually. But Team USA this year is more vulnerable than I remember seeing in a long, long time. Should be some exciting basketball coming up.
So, I mentioned the Jazz were getting a new 90s retro court this coming season, but through a massive leak of images on reddit (now on Imgur) it seems a lot of teams are getting new courts:
https://imgur.com/a/tWlbdMB (https://imgur.com/a/tWlbdMB)
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Will someone please throw away the Jazz’s City Edition court? Their colors offend me, and for that, the rate just went up 10%.
I feel like I should hate the Hawks’ new City Edition court, but I don’t. I guess the peach color is closer to the actual color of a red-tailed hawk (based on cursory googling).
So USA didn't even make it to the medal platform and got 7th place in the FIBA Cup and Spain got 1st place. Rubio got the MVP award and I am pretty happy about the Suns chances this coming year and going forward.
I mean they have a good pick and roll point guard in Rubio and with Booker, Ayton, Oubre Jr and Bridges as options on the offensive end they will be a better team than last year. I am not sure they will make the playoffs this year but I think they will be a mid to high 30 win team which is a vast improvement from last years 19 win campaign.So USA didn't even make it to the medal platform and got 7th place in the FIBA Cup and Spain got 1st place. Rubio got the MVP award and I am pretty happy about the Suns chances this coming year and going forward.
FIBA results don't always carry over into the NBA. Luis "God mode" Scola, for example, regularly romps through these tournaments despite his age.
But sometimes it does! Suns this year should be more interesting to watch than they have been for a while.
What happened to PG?1. He was going to miss a few weeks because he is recovering from back surgery.
Is there any updates on the LA Klawpers tampering story?
and where is the countdown clock!? I need my NBA fix!!!!
Honestly, the Sixers.Funny thing about this is pretty much all the 2K20 sims have those two teams playing each other in the Finals.
However, I have a $20 bet with a friend that the Lakers specifically beat the Sixers. If either team doesn’t make the Finals, the bet is off. I’m not much of a gambler.
Personally, I'm not a fan of NCAA athletes getting paid when they're already getting scholarships (and, thus, an education) along with the lion's share of the school's entire budget devoted to their care, money that should be going into actually educating the students or other programs such as music.
If students are going to get paid for playing sports, fine, but they should lose the scholarships and have to pay their own way with that money. Welcome to the real world you want so badly, kids.
Yeah what Insanolord says is how it would be with this new bill that's been signed. Its basically like how the NBA is now as far as endorsements go.Personally, I'm not a fan of NCAA athletes getting paid when they're already getting scholarships (and, thus, an education) along with the lion's share of the school's entire budget devoted to their care, money that should be going into actually educating the students or other programs such as music.
If students are going to get paid for playing sports, fine, but they should lose the scholarships and have to pay their own way with that money. Welcome to the real world you want so badly, kids.
The bill isn't about athletes being paid by the school, and it doesn't allow that. It just says they should be able to profit from their own likeness in things like selling autographs, being in commercials, and having their likeness in video games, and in all those cases the money would be coming from outside entities, not the schools.
Anthony Davis bricked a lot of jumpers. He was so dominant with almost everything else (some missed assignments on transition defense) that it didn’t affect his game too much. He has to hit those at a better clip. If Davis can start making three pointers with more consistency, shut it down and give the man MVP.Those were really the only two bad things he did for the time he played so if he can tighten those things up the Lakers are going to be dangerous.
So...anyone up for discussing the case of the Houston Rockets GM whose job is at risk right now because he posted a pro-Hong Kong Independence Tweet, causing outrage from China that the NBA quickly rushed to denounce? It's pretty messed-up.Not treading those waters, man. Good luck to you though.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/07/sports/basketball/nba-china-hong-kong.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/07/sports/basketball/nba-china-hong-kong.html)
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So...anyone up for discussing the case of the Houston Rockets GM whose job is at risk right now because he posted a pro-Hong Kong Independence Tweet, causing outrage from China that the NBA quickly rushed to denounce? It's pretty messed-up.Not treading those waters, man. Good luck to you though.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/07/sports/basketball/nba-china-hong-kong.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/07/sports/basketball/nba-china-hong-kong.html)
(https://pbs.twimg.com/media/EGTbic3UEAALdKs.jpg)
Anthony Davis left today’s preseason game with a thumb sprain. Lakers are currently getting worked by the Nets. Hopefully Davis can stay healthy this season. Sorry for the shitty, blowout game, China.
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Jevon Carter, Kelly Oubre Jr, Mikal Bridges, Dario Saric and Aron Banes. 3 players off the bench scored at least 16 points in Kamenski, Cameron Johnson and Tyler Johnson.
I don't think they will make the playoffs but I do think they will win 35 to 37 games this year. I am going to try and make a game a month and see how they play. I do already have tickets for the home opener versus Sacramento on the 23rd. It should be fun....
Jevon Carter, Kelly Oubre Jr, Mikal Bridges, Dario Saric and Aron Banes. 3 players off the bench scored at least 16 points in Kamenski, Cameron Johnson and Tyler Johnson.
"Preseason doesn't count" caveats aside, I like a lot of those players - or at least I like the potential they have that has only been shown in flashes so far.
I'm not confident in the Suns doing well this year. But they should be interesting to watch and to cheer for!
Is anyone else watching preseason games? I took the leap into League Pass this year, which might be questionable since I'm from Canada and they block all Raptors games here by default due to local network contracts...
I worry a little bit that the mental prep isn't related to injuries - Howard has a reputation for being famously immature - but maybe the ups and downs over his career and related to his health will have changed him. If there is no issue with ego or locker room fit, he should be an awesome fit for the Lakers.I think it is exactly that. He has had ups and downs since joining the Lakers the first time and he just wants to belong to a team that will enjoy what Dwight can bring to the team with defense rebounds, screen and rolls, lobs and a little bit passing. The passing is kinda surprising to me as the last time I really saw him pass a lot was when he was with the magic and it was out of the post to shooters but now there is lots of handoffs and smart passes to cutters so it is nice that he can bring that to the Lakers and he will also give rest to JaVale and still get similar production when Dwight is on the court. I kinda think this is a win win for the Lakers and Dwight.
Zion gets surgery, will be out 6 to 8 weeks. (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/27897494/zion-williamson-undergoes-knee-surgery-6-8-weeks)
As much as they downplayed the injury, the fact that it required surgery feels ominous about the kid's career. Here's to hoping he doesn't see any more injuries.
Lakers are tied for last with the Orleans Pels.Someone has to lose each game and it just so happened to be the Lakers last night. 1 Game.
hows it feel?
(hopes Warriors don't lose season opener....)
We have some Lakers fans; can someone here sell me on Brandon Ingram?I mean I haven't seen him in person play but from the highlights that I have seen a lot of the hype is mainly about his length, rebounding and scoring. Like if you look at him he is kinda lanky with the length of his arms so he can use that for getting into passing lanes for steals and also since his arms are so long he can shoot over smaller guards and forwards. It is just a matter of putting everything together. He has very good hands so he can rebound well and receive the basketball on the block and go from there. His scoring when he was playing last year for the Lakers was kinda odd because at the start of the season he needed the ball to score and really wasn't an off ball player. So with LeBron out there it was kind of an odd pairing at the start of the season. Later on in the season he learned how to play off ball and did better before the tail end of the season where he had the blood clot problems.
He seems to get a tremendous amount of hype as an up-and-coming star, but I've never been lucky enough to see a performance from him that made me believe that hype. Ingram always looks amazingly talented, but rarely shows the kind of desire or passion that you want from a star player - although maybe that's due to age or role?
It was interesting to see him go against Siakam (who was drafted the same year) last night. Different players in a lot of ways, but they match up pretty well.
I got my tickets for the Suns vs Kings game tonight at 7pm. It should be fun.
I guess I should of flipped the teams around to distinguish between away and home for next time. I wish I lived in North California. I miss California.I got my tickets for the Suns vs Kings game tonight at 7pm. It should be fun.
I almost thought you were near Sac, then I looked up the game and they playing in Phoenix.
I was definitely just joking about the Lakers.
only 2 teams have played and lost so far, so this may be the last time I can say Lakers are dead last in the league. (unless Utah can upset on Friday) LOL
On my way down to the game!!
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- The Thunder's Shai Gilgeous-Alexander is a terror. They are going to have a long and possibly prosperous future if they build around him.
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"I want to apologize to my family, the entire Suns organization, my teammates, partners, our fans and the Phoenix community. This was an unintentional mistake and unfortunately I put something in my body that I was completely unaware of. I do understand the unfortunate impact that this has on so many others, and for that I am deeply sorry. I’m extremely disappointed that I’ve let my team down. I will continue to work with the NBPA to go through arbitration and am hopeful of a positive resolution.
Oh, I came to lament Ayton and Bagley both being out for a while, but am glad to hear that maybe one of those issues isn't as serious as it first sounded. (Unfortunately, I don't think there can be any arbitration for a broken thumb.)Sorry about Bagley I did see one of the Kings player go down after a play which resulted in a basket for the Suns.
Oh Warriors.... :(I know the Warriors front court isn't the best right now but Zubac scored a double double in 17 minutes. That shouldn't be happening. He did have some flashes of that last season with the Lakers but it wasn't a consistant thing. I am not worrying about the Clippers right now but if they play the Jazz and dominate Gobert or some strong team defense like the Pacers and then I am going to start to worry.
I can't say I'm familiar with 80% of the people on my team on the floor for 70% of the game.
It's just game 1. We will have some breakouts. Improvements will be made. LOL
They gonna have LOTS of "tape' to watch tomorrow.
Hopefully we show some much needed correction in the game vs CP3 and the Thunder on Sunday.
Unfortunately, the Jazz are short-handed tonight without Bogdanovic. He sprained his ankle early in the game against the Thunder. He came back to finish the game strong, but apparently that was just a temporary measure.That is unfortunate. Sorry to hear that. Jazz are keeping things competitive though. 36 to 35 Lakers nearing the end of the 1st half.
Lakers won 95 to 86. I really like the overall team defense that the Lakers played. If you look at the box score you see that as a team the Lakers had 14 steals and 9 blocks. Also Green, Bradley, Caruso, Lebron, AD, McGee and Howard played really good defense. I like this bounce back game for them.
I think only Kuzma and Rondo was out for the Lakers. Caruso was a game time decision. Ingles looked like he strugged and if I am not mistaken isn't Gobert more defense oriented than offense oriented so he may not of been able to get much if I am correct?Lakers won 95 to 86. I really like the overall team defense that the Lakers played. If you look at the box score you see that as a team the Lakers had 14 steals and 9 blocks. Also Green, Bradley, Caruso, Lebron, AD, McGee and Howard played really good defense. I like this bounce back game for them.
Well, I look forward to the rematch once all our starters are healthy and the team as a whole has had more of a chance to gel. Yeah, Donovan "got his" as usual, but our usual big players like Ingles and Gobert were just nowhere to be found on the offensive end. Ingles in particular doesn't seem to be adapting well to the "Manu Ginobili" role of being the starter-caliber player on the bench.
Also, on Twitter I saw someone make a joke about the Jazz needing to find the Monstar that stole Mike Conley's talent. Yeah...WTF, Conley? We restructured our entire team around acquiring you, and you've been **** ever since!
I think only Kuzma and Rondo was out for the Lakers. Caruso was a game time decision. Ingles looked like he strugged and if I am not mistaken isn't Gobert more defense oriented than offense oriented so he may not of been able to get much if I am correct?Lakers won 95 to 86. I really like the overall team defense that the Lakers played. If you look at the box score you see that as a team the Lakers had 14 steals and 9 blocks. Also Green, Bradley, Caruso, Lebron, AD, McGee and Howard played really good defense. I like this bounce back game for them.
Well, I look forward to the rematch once all our starters are healthy and the team as a whole has had more of a chance to gel. Yeah, Donovan "got his" as usual, but our usual big players like Ingles and Gobert were just nowhere to be found on the offensive end. Ingles in particular doesn't seem to be adapting well to the "Manu Ginobili" role of being the starter-caliber player on the bench.
Also, on Twitter I saw someone make a joke about the Jazz needing to find the Monstar that stole Mike Conley's talent. Yeah...WTF, Conley? We restructured our entire team around acquiring you, and you've been **** ever since!
Maybe it is a matter of Conley getting in synch with the rest of the team and then the offense will flow better.I think only Kuzma and Rondo was out for the Lakers. Caruso was a game time decision. Ingles looked like he strugged and if I am not mistaken isn't Gobert more defense oriented than offense oriented so he may not of been able to get much if I am correct?Lakers won 95 to 86. I really like the overall team defense that the Lakers played. If you look at the box score you see that as a team the Lakers had 14 steals and 9 blocks. Also Green, Bradley, Caruso, Lebron, AD, McGee and Howard played really good defense. I like this bounce back game for them.
Well, I look forward to the rematch once all our starters are healthy and the team as a whole has had more of a chance to gel. Yeah, Donovan "got his" as usual, but our usual big players like Ingles and Gobert were just nowhere to be found on the offensive end. Ingles in particular doesn't seem to be adapting well to the "Manu Ginobili" role of being the starter-caliber player on the bench.
Also, on Twitter I saw someone make a joke about the Jazz needing to find the Monstar that stole Mike Conley's talent. Yeah...WTF, Conley? We restructured our entire team around acquiring you, and you've been **** ever since!
He is, but the idea behind the new Jazz roster is that better spacing with all the players (now that, theoretically, the Jazz are a much bigger offensive threat) will allow Rudy to operate in the paint much more. Instead, his stats are down compared to his average. Hell, his rebounds are down, too.
Did the Lakers play tonight?No the Lakers didn't play tonight. They played on Friday versus the Jazz.
I got sent a vid on IG of Lebron losing his "hair piece" live on TV during the game.
AD clued him in, then Bron attempts to fix it.
Did anyone else see that?
Did the Lakers play tonight?
I got sent a vid on IG of Lebron losing his "hair piece" live on TV during the game.
AD clued him in, then Bron attempts to fix it.
Did anyone else see that?
Doc Rivers is clearing the bench. Suns win!!
Sure, it's early and this is only one game. I try to never read too much into early season results because the teams we see playing now aren't really up to speed yet.
Dray has to be LIVID as he is the defensive glue, but I have a feeling DPOY Dray and UMVP Curry may not be making an appearance this year.
Dray is a great defender, as he can be all over the place, as he knows his teammates are covering the gaps and switching assignments on the fly. He now has to spent time making sure some guys are folling their assignments and watching their zones and not just following the ball while all the off-ball action happens behind them. This zone defense the Dubs been running has got to stop, but I don't think all these newbies can play switch defense that prior Dubs have had nearly perfected. Nothing they are doing from yesteryears is working as this group (outside of the Core 3) don't have a clue as to what to do or how to do it.
Curry will absolutely need to become the dominant ball handler in all live ball situations, D-Lo will have to adjust. They aren't running pick n roll situations right as they mostly just stick to Curry as he has no one to pass it to. No one besides Curry and D-Lo can consistently score to save their life. If any of them could just put up a decent number of successful attempts to make ignore them a costly move, Curry might be able to get open for a split second instead of exhausting himself trying to get open while lesser players take and miss wide open shots from all over the court.
On the plus side, ticket prices will probably come back down to reasonable levels for decent seats in the new year. At least one can hope. LOL
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The gals on the show today was saying maybe the Warriors as a whole will have to figure out a new way to play to compliment everyone on the team and bringing the newer players in and figuring out what works for them and the main core as well.
KCP scoring 13 points. Fun stat: When KCP scores the Lakers are undefeated.MV-KCP in garbage time! He needs to play like that when it matters.
The Towns-Embiid scuffle is interesting.
Any bets on how much time will be missed?
Embiid can't have done himself any favors with the laughter and fake boxing by his bench after the fact.
It wasn't really that bad though - just looked rough at first because it's two massive dudes involved. Not really any punches though, just a lot of grabbing and holding.
That was Simmons at the end who you are talking about?
So I might be wrong, but the choking looked to me more like just trying to keep Towns on the ground and away from a real fight. Towns looked hot, and while Simmons was more aggressive than you'd probably like pinning him that way, I'd give him benefit of the doubt. (Since Simmons wasn't ejected after video review, I'm betting the officials feel the same way.)
But Embiid deserves whatever they give him for making it all a joke. I know that taunting and trash talk and getting under opponents skin is his "thing"... but dude acts like an idiot way too often and looked proud of himself for instigating the scuffle.
Why would anyone need to demoralize a team down by 20?
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Clearly you don't have the same personality that Embiid does.Yeah, clearly. If Embiid gets suspended, the Sixers are going to have a hard time against the Blazers on Saturday. Was it worth rubbing salt in the wounds of a team you’re blowing out if it means potentially missing one or more games? Only he can say. However, if you’re going to literally cry after Kawhi Leonard ends your season then say you let your team down, maybe your best move isn’t to let your team down again at the beginning of the next season. I like Embiid; there’s just not fucking place in the game for this behavior.
That Rockets Wiz game was all regulation too.....
did anyone play defense? Or was it all hurry up offense?
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Is there a Tim Duncan in the draft pool this year? Because the Warriors could pull a 96-97 Spurs, grab them, and be set for another two decades.
That's not bad, all things considered.
Gotta check to see who they playing tho.
Who's gonna miss their guy more during the next two games?
That's not bad, all things considered.I mean from an overall team perspective the Wolves are going to miss Towns more since a lot of the offense goes through him. Philly has Simmons and Harris as remaining parts of the team.
Gotta check to see who they playing tho.
Who's gonna miss their guy more during the next two games?
On the upside for the Warriors, maybe getting all the injuries out at one time is a good thing. Just get it all over with, you know?
Take the high draft pick (their pick this year is protected if in the top 20 and they could use some cheap talent), see what you've got with the younger players getting some experience, wait for the vets to all get healthy, and target next year as your return. It's a short-term bummer... but think about how things fell into place with Steph's bad ankles early on.
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reading up on the report, Curry is only expected to miss about 6-8 weeks at most.
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Warriors aren't tanking, but Draymond is now also injured and seems likely to miss time.I watched the stream on ESPN last night. Maybe it is up there still.
(Seriously: I know we are really early on still, but just write off this season and view it as development/investment in the future already!)
Really wish the Lakers game last night was on League Pass - but probably better that I didn't stay up until wee hours of the morning watching, especially when it went to overtime. Maybe worth watching the compressed version today?
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I watched the stream on ESPN last night. Maybe it is up there still.
I had no idea you were in Canada and that is how it worked up there. It was hard to watch early on but the Lakers made 10 straight stops to be able to stay in the game. I also hadn't realized that LeBron and Doncic both had triple doubles. I think that may have been a first in the NBA....
I watched the stream on ESPN last night. Maybe it is up there still.
Pretty sure I can't watch ESPN streams in Canada - they are blocked. But League Pass lets you stream older games for pretty much everything so it's good. (And yes, the game is a fun watch!)
Love seeing Luka and Kristaps going up against LeBron and Anthony. Lakers win that battle right now, and should be a better team overall. But it's closer than many might expect - and I feel like the Mavs duo have greater potential for growth over the next couple of years. I know that Lakers vs Clippers is the rivalry everyone wants to talk about, but if these teams were going to be together for a few years I can't help but wonder if Lakers vs Mavs might be more exciting... bring one more piece in for the Mavs and they could look dangerous!
Warriors aren't tanking, but Draymond is now also injured and seems likely to miss time.
(Seriously: I know we are really early on still, but just write off this season and view it as development/investment in the future already!)
I guess he injured his left index finger.Warriors aren't tanking, but Draymond is now also injured and seems likely to miss time.
(Seriously: I know we are really early on still, but just write off this season and view it as development/investment in the future already!)
damn, what happened to Draymond!?
Injury Bug got it's last victim.... hopefully it decides to hibernate again, it's gotten all our remaining starters from the previous season. We are done.... we have now paid our dues.
I was out with some friends and the game wasn't on TV, so I was following the score.
Did Dray get hurt early in the 3rd? that seems to be when the Dubs started falling behind.
I don’t think the refs missed the call at the end of the Lakers-Mavericks game. Unless it’s egregious, they tend to let the players decide the game.
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Sure... except it was pretty egregious.My intention is not to argue semantics or what constitutes as egregious. To clarify though, someone has to get practically mauled or intentionally fouled as in the player tells a ref before the play begins “I’m going to foul [player]” (like a hack-a-Shaq kind of thing) for refs to blow the whistle. If the commentators saw, the refs did too. They didn’t stop the play because they generally tend to let end of games play out.
... To clarify though, someone has to get practically mauled or intentionally fouled as in the player tells a ref before the play begins “I’m going to foul [player]” (like a hack-a-Shaq kind of thing) for refs to blow the whistle. If the commentators saw, the refs did too. They didn’t stop the play because they generally tend to let end of games play out.
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To be honest, I watched the play, I really don't see how the refs didn't call the hold, it was BLATANTLY egregious, and a deciding factor on why Danny Green was open to make that last shot to tie the game. Howard literally grabbed Curry with both hands by the jersey and held him (like the pic shows) allowing green to be open to accept the pass on the 3pt line.We all watched the play. The refs intentionally didn't call it.
There's no way the refs didn't see that. It was very obvious.
This often isn't true, and just stating it as a fact doesn't make it true. "Letting them play" depends on the game, the foul, the players involved, the situation... This is why they started doing the two-minute reports, so fans can see that calls are generally made without issue for the vast majority of games.Which part isn't true? It's documented that refs will hold their whistles at the end of games. The NBA won't admit it, but there's tons of video of supporting this practice. Whether this happened in the Lakers-Mavericks game is obviously my opinion.
Looks like it’s about to happen. Who knew the Suns would be this good?I had a feeling once they got Rubio and got rid of the players who didn't preform well last season like Josh Jackson, TJ Warren and Chriss. The front office did a good job surrounding Booker, Ayton, Oubre Jr and Bridges with solid complimentary pieces and having a good pass first point guard helped take off the playmaking responsibilities off of Booker so he can just focus on scoring and defense. I also say they put some good physical centers behind Ayton and it has worked well for them.
And surprisingly the Warriors don't look like complete trash tonight. They playing like a team, hitting shots. Stepping up against the Blazers.I guess with D'lo and Draymond out they have to go younger and it might be working for them against the Blazers. 87-83 Warriors at the end of the 3rd quarter.
Interesting watch. We'll see if they can hang on and play a complete game this time.
ARE YOU GUYS WATCHING THIS!!!?
They Doing it RN!!!
Pascxhall 4/5 from 3, career high 28pts, Blazers resorting to bully tactics for getting worked by rookies.
Just gotta keep the momentum up for another 4.5 games minutes
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they strung together 4 quarters!!!!
Paschal just had a helluva birthday!!!
Welp.Is the change in thread title about Steph Curry or someone else?
Guess I'll see y'all next season then.
Is the change in thread title about Steph Curry or someone else?
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I feel like commentators these days don’t do as much play-by-play as they did in the past. You can’t really put a game on in the background and still follow what’s happening.
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I also listen to lots of games on the radio. If they didn't play-by-play, I'd be lost.
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I also listen to lots of games on the radio. If they didn't play-by-play, I'd be lost.What’s a radio?
TV commentators are relying on the fact that they assume you are also watching the game, or are withing visual range of the TV that way if they have a reaction to something in the game, you'll know to direct your eyes towards the TV quickly. Otherwise, they are usually just shooting the **** and occasionally commenting on on big things like buckets, fouls and turnovers.
Damion Lee, on a two-way contract with the Warriors, broke his hand and is out for two weeks. At this point, I’m half expecting someone on the team to spontaneously combust (then break their hand).
Some surprising wins tonight. Knicks beat the Mavs. Knicks spoil Porzengis return to the Big Apple.
Pels beat the Clippers. Paul George had his first game of the season but Jrue Holiday was key versus him for stretch's of the game. Also the Pels had Zion, Lonzo, Ingram, Hart and Okafur out for the game.
Yeah Leonard was out on the second game of a back to back and Beverly did have an injury. I was looking up some stats and Leonard hasn't played in a 2nd game of the back to back since 2017. I guess the Clippers figure once PG gets back, which they did tonight, they can slowly implement both players into the lineup and then they figure no one can beat them. So I guess it is worth it right now in the Clippers management. The Clippers are calling it "Right Knee Injury Management" now so at least it isn't like how Popovich held out their stars back then but it is a problem for the league in many ways.Some surprising wins tonight. Knicks beat the Mavs. Knicks spoil Porzengis return to the Big Apple.
Pels beat the Clippers. Paul George had his first game of the season but Jrue Holiday was key versus him for stretch's of the game. Also the Pels had Zion, Lonzo, Ingram, Hart and Okafur out for the game.
It's also worth noting that the Clippers had Kawhi out on the good 'ol "Load Management." Considering how many games they've lost already due to that (plus the game they lost to the Rockets where he actually played), you have to wonder how much longer the Clippers are going to let him keep pulling that. I understand that it's a contractual thing, but "Load Management" disgusts me. It shouldn't be allowed in the NBA. You'd never have seen Stockton, Malone, Barklay, Jordan, etc. pulling that crap. Hell, Stockton only ever missed 8 games his entire career outside the season he was out with surgery. And the league back then was much more physical than today's touch foul-driven play.
Today's players are coddled.
Some surprising wins tonight. Knicks beat the Mavs. Knicks spoil Porzengis return to the Big Apple.
Pels beat the Clippers. Paul George had his first game of the season but Jrue Holiday was key versus him for stretch's of the game. Also the Pels had Zion, Lonzo, Ingram, Hart and Okafur out for the game.
It's also worth noting that the Clippers had Kawhi out on the good 'ol "Load Management." Considering how many games they've lost already due to that (plus the game they lost to the Rockets where he actually played), you have to wonder how much longer the Clippers are going to let him keep pulling that. I understand that it's a contractual thing, but "Load Management" disgusts me. It shouldn't be allowed in the NBA. You'd never have seen Stockton, Malone, Barklay, Jordan, etc. pulling that crap. Hell, Stockton only ever missed 8 games his entire career outside the season he was out with surgery. And the league back then was much more physical than today's touch foul-driven play.
Today's players are coddled.
Malone may have a championship ring if he had some DNP-rest for some games in his lone Lakers season.
There's a difference between a player sitting because they're not healthy & a player sitting because they don't want to playI don’t agree with this. There are certain implications to saying players “don’t want to play.” They do this for a living. Of course they want to play. When players rest, everyone in the organization is on the same page because there are built-in incentives for winning. Teams are deciding whether some players play when games “don’t matter” vs. when they do.
They could just call it DNP - Old.Gregg Popovich, in 2012: Tim Duncan missed Sunday night’s Spurs game because he’s ‘old,’ officially (https://sports.yahoo.com/tim-duncan-missed-sunday-night-spurs-game-because-081218158.html)
... but AD got the block of the year.
... Celtics have the best record in the league going into tonights game at 9-1 ...
That said, if they're going to futz with the playoff seeding, it may be worth reexamining the regular season structure of how often teams play each other. Maybe make it random? For example, the Rockets may play the Knicks four times one year, three times another year etc.* A five-year rotation determines which out-of-division conference teams are played only 3 times.
- 4 games against the other 4 division opponents (4×4=16 games)
- 4 games* against 6 (out-of-division) conference opponents (4×6=24 games)
- 3 games against the remaining 4 conference teams (3×4=12 games)
- 2 games against teams in the opposing conference (2×15=30 games)
...since this is the Lakers, they’ll probably fall behind by 18 points against another sub-.500 team because reasons.The Lakers fell behind by 15 points. My bad.
Kuzma came a live after AD had his arm tugged on by Hart. Howard and Daniels played well off the bench. Caruso was pretty key in locking down Jrue in the second half. The refs played to much of a factor this game. This game was tense to watch till the final buzzer....since this is the Lakers, they’ll probably fall behind by 18 points against another sub-.500 team because reasons.The Lakers fell behind by 15 points. My bad.
Davis with the steal and free throws to ice the game. Jebus, those last few minutes were intense. I like close games, but it’s so stressful when actively rooting for one of the teams.
Lakers get an easy win. I don’t believe James and Davis played in the fourth quarter. I expect the Lakers to lose at least two games next week, back-to-back against the Nuggets and Jazz is a tough schedule.
Lakers get an easy win. I don’t believe James and Davis played in the fourth quarter. I expect the Lakers to lose at least two games next week, back-to-back against the Nuggets and Jazz is a tough schedule.
Yeah, well...by the time we get to that game, the Jazz will be on a 3 games-in-4-nights run of the Raptors & 76ers on the road followed by that game with the Lakers, so the game against us might be easier than you expect. I wouldn't be surprised if the Jazz lost all 3 of those games, especially with how terribly the bench has been playing lately.
Lakers get an easy win. I don’t believe James and Davis played in the fourth quarter. I expect the Lakers to lose at least two games next week, back-to-back against the Nuggets and Jazz is a tough schedule.
Yeah, well...by the time we get to that game, the Jazz will be on a 3 games-in-4-nights run of the Raptors & 76ers on the road followed by that game with the Lakers, so the game against us might be easier than you expect. I wouldn't be surprised if the Jazz lost all 3 of those games, especially with how terribly the bench has been playing lately.
Schedule woes abound.
As a Raptors fan I'm also dreading the upcoming week-and-a-half: Utah, Miami, Houston, Philly, and then Chicago before taking on LAC (on the second night of a back-to-back again). Exclude Chicago, and Utah is the "easiest" game from that lineup based solely on current standings. That's ridiculous.
The Raptors' 14-4 record so far is admirable and proof that Toronto knows how to grind... but unless Lowry and/or Ibaka get back healthy soon there are losses on the horizon.
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I think you'll have a harder time with the Bulls than you are with the Jazz tonight. I gave that game up as a loss halfway through the 1st quarter.
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... I'd be surprised of more than 4 of the Warriors new faces (outside D-Lo, WCS, Chriss) will even be active NBA players, much less still on this team, next season, unless some dramatic improvements happen in the new year. ...
Losing to the Mavs isn't something the Lakers should be worried about; it's not a let-down against a sub-500 team, and no team wins every game. Luka is a legit superstar, it's hard to believe how young he is when watching him absolutely control games. The Mavs success has been one of the best stories of the year so far.Well Ayton is still serving his 25 game suspension. He has 8 games remaining to sit out before he can play. Baynes is still hurt with a left calf strain. Cheick Diallo had an illness this past game and is currently not on this road trip. Also Mikal Bridges and Cam Johnson are playing through injuries. So in all likelihood this is all temporary. I think once our bigs come back(Ayton, Baynes and Diallo) we should be rolling nicely like the 7-4 start we began the season with. This last stretch of games has been hard and we tumbled down the standings but we still are the 8th seed. 1 game ahead of the 9th seed and 1 game back of the 7th seed with a 9-10 record. Timberwolves ahead of us and the Kings and Thunder behind us.... The Suns ...
Speaking of good stories, are the Suns healthy yet? If their roster was whole and healthy, I feel like they would also be one of the happy stories. Things kind of fell apart when injuries hit, but hopefully that's just temporary?
I want to find whoever convinced every member of the Jazz to only shoot 3 point shots or mid-range floaters and beat them within an inch of their life. :rolleyes:It’s only a game, Focker.
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I hear the Corpse of Dante Exum managed to get himself injured again, albeit possibly temporarily this time. I'm so glad we wasted 5 years on that loser.
I want to find whoever convinced every member of the Jazz to only shoot 3 point shots or mid-range floaters and beat them within an inch of their life. :rolleyes:It’s only a game, Focker.
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I hear the Corpse of Dante Exum managed to get himself injured again, albeit possibly temporarily this time. I'm so glad we wasted 5 years on that loser.
Dwight Howard made a three pointer.
I actually love Dwights play since the season started. He brings so much energy, rebounding and defense while being a lob threat. That three last night was only his 7th make in his career. I do like the redemption arc he and Melo has been going through this season.Dwight Howard made a three pointer.
Only thing worth talking about right now. He's having fun again, which is way different from his last stint there.
Forgot to post this the other day. Super classy crowd reaction from Toronto to Kawhi Leonard.
I'm pretty sure no one was watching yesterday besides me, but I tuned in and watched these boys playing DEFENSE. They were making appropriate switches, and communicating enough to switch off mismatches and keep the opposing offense from getting easy ball movement.I didn't actually see the game as I was watching the Suns versus the Nuggets at the time but I did see D'lo score like 25 of something at some point in the game. Warriors are healthy aside from Curry and Klay but I was kinda surprised yesterday at the result. Now the Suns next game is against the Warriors up in the bay area. This has got to be a game where we win and break our skid in the standings because the 3rd and 4th game is going to be Blazers and Lakers which I don't think we are going to win.
It wasn't perfect, but damn was it nice to see them playing like a team that knew what it was doing.
We had a 25 point lead at one point if I remember correctly, and even though they let the lead slip at the beginning of the 4th, partially because of Dray being overzealous with aggressive passing attempts, it was a good 3.5 Qtr effort that lead to our first 2 game win streak this season.
Now we gotta play the Rockets tomorrow..... I don't see that going well at all, but maybe we get an Xmas surprise?
I clicked into this thread hoping to see broodwars comment on Dante Exum. Was not disappointed. 👍
Do the Jazz have any current rivalries? Jeff Green will sign with one of those teams and immediately be efficient and effective because y’all are the Jazz.
And the NUDE STREAK Continues!!!!Good job, now the Warriors are with the 3rd best odds at the number 1 pick.
ever since Curry's "nudez" leaked, Dubs are UNDEFEATED Baby!!! 4-in-a-row!!!
Let me have this moment damnit!!!
The Streaking has come to an end.... but it was never expected, and certainly not expected to last.D'lo going for a loose ball and his head collided with Lucas hip. It at first looked like D'lo and Luka were going to collide head to head until D'lo moved his head to the right and he ended up hitting Lukas hip.
I want to say it was when D-Lo go hurt that the tide turned, but i didn't see it happen as I was on the road at halftime, and didn't get back infront of a TV until just before halfway through the 3rd... by that point, the damage was done. D-Lo came back in the 4th, but the game was already out of reach without a Hot-Hand Klay and/or Super Nova Curry on the active roster.
It's all good though. Fun while it lasted. 1st half was good to watch though. Both teams were on FIRE from downtown. We just couldn't keep it up in the 2nd half, and The Mavs kept right on rolling.
The Streaking has come to an end.... but it was never expected, and certainly not expected to last.D'lo going for a loose ball and his head collided with Lucas hip. It at first looked like D'lo and Luka were going to collide head to head until D'lo moved his head to the right and he ended up hitting Lukas hip.
I want to say it was when D-Lo go hurt that the tide turned, but i didn't see it happen as I was on the road at halftime, and didn't get back infront of a TV until just before halfway through the 3rd... by that point, the damage was done. D-Lo came back in the 4th, but the game was already out of reach without a Hot-Hand Klay and/or Super Nova Curry on the active roster.
It's all good though. Fun while it lasted. 1st half was good to watch though. Both teams were on FIRE from downtown. We just couldn't keep it up in the 2nd half, and The Mavs kept right on rolling.
Hope D'lo is okay. I feel bad for the Warriors with all these injuries that are just coming in waves.
For BnM- https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-aU7eDTscg
Lucky for the Lakers that we lost though. Don't ignore the fact that the Warriors Win Streak aligned with the Lakers Lose Streak. We finally lost one, and they finally won one.
Well shame on me... I guess Lebron's groin was aggravated, and is now injured as of yesterday...Pat Beverly during the Xmas game knee'd Lebron on a play when LeBron was taking a charge. It isn't the same one from last year but it did set him back to how he was 5 days previous. Since then he missed one game against the Nuggets and played versus the Blazers and Mavs.
EMBIIIIID NOOOOOO!!!!!
https://twitter.com/RTNBA/status/1214349847207305216
that dislocation. NSFWeaklings
The Lakers are apparently “listening to offers” for Kyle Kuzma. The Kings are apparently willing to include Bogdan Bogdanović to get Kuzma. I played around with ESPN’s NBA Trade Machine and got some successful trades. Kuzma (with Cook and Daniels to match salaries) for Bogdanović works. I did one with the Grizzlies as a third team which also works, more on them later.I think a great need for the Lakers is a backup point guard and a wing defender. Bogan Bogdanovich somewhat helps with the playmaking but it would be a weird fit position wise. The most basic deal to bring over Bogan is Cook and Kuzma and the Kings throw in a draft pick.
I was curious after reading the rumors today. I don’t know a lot about Bogdanović except that he smoked the Lakers last season. Why would either team do this trade?
Kings: Bogdanović will be a restricted free agent this summer, and the Kings may not want to pay him. They should, but you know, the Kings gonna King. Anyway, Kuzma is three years younger and won’t be a restricted free agent until the summer of 2021. He’s only owed $3.6 million next season. Either way, his cap hold and raise would be lower than Bogdanović. Also, Luke Walton is high on Kuzma.
Lakers: Kuzma is good but maybe not for this particular team, trying to win a championship this year. Bogdanović is better right now and would give the Lakers some much needed shooting. He apparently doesn’t like coming off the bench for the Kings, but maybe he will on a title contender especially if given what was supposed to be Kuzma’s role of being the primary option of the second unit.
I mentioned the Grizzlies earlier because the Lakers still want Andre Iguodala but have no way of acquiring him via trade since the Grizzlies weirdly still want a first-round pick. To get the Kuzma deal done, the Kings could throw in a (heavily protected) first round pick. The Lakers don’t care about the pick so whether in the same Kuzma-Bogdanović transaction or a separate one, the Kings protected pick would get sent to the Grizzlies which in a wink-wink deal would agree to buy out Iguodala now instead of after the trade deadline with the understanding that he will join the Lakers. The Grizzlies technically get their first round pick, and the Lakers get their man a little earlier. It’d be funny if he ended up joining the Clippers anyway.
Ultimately, the Lakers could end up with Bogdan Bogdanović and Andre Iguodala (and Darren Collison) within a month. I don’t know if I’d do the above mentioned deal(s). I’m high on Kuzma, and this would effectively leave the Lakers with no future assets. Then again, hopefully improving the roster is the exact reason teams have assets. It’d be the epitome of going all-in.
EMBIIIIID NOOOOOO!!!!!
https://twitter.com/RTNBA/status/1214349847207305216
that dislocation. NSFWeaklings
WHY DID I CLICK THAT LINK?!!! :o
Wow...just...wow. I'm amazed he was even walking with his finger jutted out of his hand at a 90 degree angle.
Warriors fan here.... just went to a game on Sunday at the new stadium. We had NO contributors playing. It was like a Pre-Season exhibition with the practice squad... only it's the regular season with our actual "available" roster and we have no chance at the playoffs, or even much less, a decent win/loss ratio.As a Suns fan I understand somewhat. There has been some games which I went to where there was at least one player of the team was either injured/suspended. While it is not exact as all the games I have been to has had Booker, Oubre Jr and Bridges playing. It is tough to see a team not playing up to potential it could with healthy players playing.
It's frustrating to watch, but I endure, hoping to catch a glimpse of the hopeful turds being polished into jewels of some value, while we patiently wait for the next season to start.
I think if Collison doesn't sign with the Lakers then DRose is probably the best option. Detroit has said that they are shopping around Drummond and if they are going to rebuild then maybe DRose can come to the Lakers and provide scoring and playmaking off the bench. Then we would only need a wing defender. Maybe a 3 team trade with the Lakers, Detroit and Memphis/ Team which has our preferred wing defender will work.I’ve seen Derrick Rose’s name thrown around. He’d check two boxes for the Lakers as you mentioned. I’m conflicted about the Lakers trading their only asset for a player who has bounced around the league for a few years. Rose is signed for next year so that fits into the Lakers’ 2021 plans. Ideally, he’d ask to be released since Pistons owner, Tom Gores, recently suggested he’s open to just rebuilding and Rose doesn’t fit that plan. Kuzma might be enough to get Rose since he’s young and on a team friendly contract for another year.
I put in some ideas for the trade machine and Quinn Cook and Troy Daniels work straight up for Rose and we lose some of the players who are not playing as much for a needed piece. With Rose we would have 13 players and have room to get a wing defender either on a buyout, Using Boogies disabled player exception or with Kuzma. Ideally we would keep Kuzma through all this so he can play behind AD or alongside the starters so we have that front court depth.I think if Collison doesn't sign with the Lakers then DRose is probably the best option. Detroit has said that they are shopping around Drummond and if they are going to rebuild then maybe DRose can come to the Lakers and provide scoring and playmaking off the bench. Then we would only need a wing defender. Maybe a 3 team trade with the Lakers, Detroit and Memphis/ Team which has our preferred wing defender will work.I’ve seen Derrick Rose’s name thrown around. He’d check two boxes for the Lakers as you mentioned. I’m conflicted about the Lakers trading their only asset for a player who has bounced around the league for a few years. Rose is signed for next year so that fits into the Lakers’ 2021 plans. Ideally, he’d ask to be released since Pistons owner, Tom Gores, recently suggested he’s open to just rebuilding and Rose doesn’t fit that plan. Kuzma might be enough to get Rose since he’s young and on a team friendly contract for another year.
Anyway, Anthony Davis’ MRI came back clean and he plans to travel with the team for a back-to-back Friday and Saturday. Probably a good idea to keep Davis out of the lineup. Porzingis is out so the Lakers may be able to eek out a win in Dallas. Still, Davis defending Dončić on the pick and roll is a big reason why the Lakers won their last game against the Mavericks.
Nice win last night. I fell asleep during the third quarter because I’m old. I hate that the Knicks are perennially bad.
I put in some ideas for the trade machine and Quinn Cook and Troy Daniels work straight up for Rose and we lose some of the players who are not playing as much for a needed piece.What incentive do the Pistons have to take back a couple of bench warmers in exchange for one of their more productive players? If the Lakers want Rose, it’ll cost them Kuzma unless Rose is granted a release, and he’d likely have to give back money to do so.
They want to rebuild. They are shopping around Drummond and Blake has undergone surgery which will take him out for the season. They have good young pieces to build around in Svi, Sekou Demboya and Luke Kanard. Cook and Daniels are only bench warmers right now on the Lakers because the Lakers have so many guards taking up minutes.I put in some ideas for the trade machine and Quinn Cook and Troy Daniels work straight up for Rose and we lose some of the players who are not playing as much for a needed piece.What incentive do the Pistons have to take back a couple of bench warmers in exchange for one of their more productive players? If the Lakers want Rose, it’ll cost them Kuzma unless Rose is granted a release, and he’d likely have to give back money to do so.
They want to rebuild. They are shopping around Drummond and Blake has undergone surgery which will take him out for the season. They have good young pieces to build around in Svi, Sekou Demboya and Luke Kanard. Cook and Daniels are only bench warmers right now on the Lakers because the Lakers have so many guards taking up minutes.Can’t say I agree with this. Cook and Daniels were brought on for shooting and really haven’t done that well. They got plenty of burn earlier in the season and did not contribute as expected. Their shooting was not good enough to justify their collective lack of defense. Last season, the Lakers had to send a young player (Svi Mykhailiuk) AND a second round pick to the Pistons for Reggie Bullock, a player the Pistons has no intention of re-signing. And that o lot happened because Magic Johnson had no idea how to build a team. There’s just no f-ing way the Pistons just send over a player with Rose’s production for two players currently riding the pine. I like the Lakers too, but that’s just homer-talk (no offense).
Curry is also already courting Giannis :D should the opportunity come for him to join the Warrior squad next season!!!I know you’re mostly joking. The Warriors don’t have the cap space or valuable picks to offer. I can’t see him leaving. I would give the Lakers the slimmest of chances because the Los Angeles market is a stupid advantage 100% of the time (but an advantage nonetheless), they have Anthony Davis, and they’ll have cap space even if LeBron James doesn’t opt out. I’m talking like 1% to 5% at best, and that’s assuming the Bucks don’t win the championship this year or next, and he feels like they can’t.
I'm glad we have your support. We will try not to **** this up by rookie-balling it in the 2nd half.
I don't have the math on numbers, but....The numbers are not on the Warriors' side. Not impossible, just improbable. This season, the NBA apron is $138,928,000. The Warriors' total salary this year is $138,818,443. Once a team is over the apron, they're hit with a bunch of restrictions like a reduced MLE/mini-MLE, ineligible for bi-annual exception, ineligible for sign-and-trade etc. If a team is under the apron and does any of the apron restrictions that puts them over the apron, they're hard-capped for the remainder of the season. I'm just putting this out there for reference. You know the Warriors would have to make some moves. My point is being so far over the cap makes doing anything extremely difficult.
We gonna ditch D-Lo and leverage that Top3-4 pick we got, and Giannis may take a haircut, and the Warriors will eat the Luxury Tax, and Chase Center ticket prices will skyrocket about 350% above what they are today and everything will be right again.
Broodwars as the resident Jazz fan what can you tell me about Jeff Green and how he has played this year? Is he a good wing defender, scorer, playmaker ect?
Sounds like he isn't the 3 and D wing defender the Lakers are looking for.Broodwars as the resident Jazz fan what can you tell me about Jeff Green and how he has played this year? Is he a good wing defender, scorer, playmaker ect?
I can tell you that we had a lot of hopes for him on a bench that desperately needed him, and he completely washed out. He can score on occasion from 3, but he probably stepped out of bounds just as many times shooting those 3s as he did making them. He's not a playmaker, and he certainly isn't a defender. We didn't even think we could get anything trading him, so we bought out his contract. As inconsistent as Niang has been with the increased minutes he gained from that, he's still been better than Green was.
Maybe in another system, he could work, but from my experience he's reckless and inconsistent.
I'm not entirely clear from your post, but it sounds like you approve of the contract?
As a Raps fan, I like the move. Teams with a strong culture who make an effort to identify talented, hard-working individuals are often fun to watch. Toronto, Miami, and Utah are some examples, and all three are great teams to follow.
Maybe it's "too early" to hand out the money, but I feel like Utah's front office knows what they are doing. And investing in O'Neal will certainly pay out better than Exum did, right?
I called 911 because the Lakers are getting murdered by the refs.Fixed!
..., but if the Pels can sneak into the playoffs and maybe steal a series, I'll be satisfied.
Although I understand the "championship or bust" mentality in some cases (Lakers, Clippers, maybe the Bucks or Sixers), I hope that people don't look at young and exciting teams like the Pels/Mavs/Heat that way. All of those teams have bright futures!
I was amused to see the Jazz starting lineup introduced with the Imperial March, though. :P
17 point stretch in like 4 minutes for Zion.
For BnM: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tV4OVJd_ddI
Even Rondo?
asking for a friend. I haven't watched many Lakers game this season 😁
Oh, and The Warriors are officially the WORST team in the league right now!!! 🎉
#1 pick here we come!!!
(Let me be excited for my team, even if for the worst reason.... It's all I have to look forward to right now as a Dubs fan 😒)
Plus with the new lottery draft system the three teams with lowest record have a 14% chance at the number one pick. New York had the lowest wins and the #1 slot but moved down to #3. Cavs had the 2nd lowest wins and dropped to #5. Phoenix the 3rd lowest wins and dropped all the way to the 6th pick. So the number 1 pick isn't as sure as a thing as it was in years past.Even Rondo?
asking for a friend. I haven't watched many Lakers game this season 😁
Oh, and The Warriors are officially the WORST team in the league right now!!! 🎉
#1 pick here we come!!!
(Let me be excited for my team, even if for the worst reason.... It's all I have to look forward to right now as a Dubs fan 😒)
I'm sorry but the Warriors should absolutely not get the #1 pick. We all know the draft lottery is rigged, and the 2020 Warriors are a team you want it to be rigged against.
Why can't you just let me have this.... 😒For five straight years, the Warriors were the most dominant team in the league. It wasn’t even that close. If not for a couple tough breaks (sometimes literally), they’d have five championships. I just can’t feel bad for a team that’s going to have two top 20 players returning and a high draft pick regardless of whether it’s the top pick. The draft is a crapshoot anyway. Donovan Mitchell was the 13th pick in 2017 (and the Nuggets traded down 11 spots), easily the best player in the same draft in which the Sixers traded up for Markelle Fultz. Considering how good the Warriors are at drafting, I wouldn’t worry about it.
Why can't you just let me have this.... 😒For five straight years, the Warriors were the most dominant team in the league. It wasn’t even that close. If not for a couple tough breaks (sometimes literally), they’d have five championships. I just can’t feel bad for a team that’s going to have two top 20 players returning and a high draft pick regardless of whether it’s the top pick. The draft is a crapshoot anyway. Donovan Mitchell was the 13th pick in 2017 (and the Nuggets traded down 11 spots), easily the best player in the same draft in which the Sixers traded up for Markelle Fultz. Considering how good the Warriors are at drafting, I wouldn’t worry about it.
I thought the entire point of this trade for the Mavericks was because Dwight Powell ruptured his Achilles.That is probably true as well.
New trade between the Mavs and the Warriors.Which pick in the 2nd round....? 🤔
Warriors are sending over Willie Cauley-Stein to the Mavs for a 2020 2nd round pick via the Utah Jazz.
This makes sense for the Warriors as they are tanking and can get a few different centers in the draft from Wiseman and Vernon Carey Jr among others. Mavs get someone in the middle because previous to this trade they didn't really have someone aside from Porzengus.
The Utah Jazz pick in the 2nd round whatever it turns into.New trade between the Mavs and the Warriors.Which pick in the 2nd round....? 🤔
Warriors are sending over Willie Cauley-Stein to the Mavs for a 2020 2nd round pick via the Utah Jazz.
This makes sense for the Warriors as they are tanking and can get a few different centers in the draft from Wiseman and Vernon Carey Jr among others. Mavs get someone in the middle because previous to this trade they didn't really have someone aside from Porzengus.
Let the trades begin.
I wonder what well get for D-Lo 5 minutes before the trades deadline is over.
Uh, breaking news out of LA: Kobe Bryant was among five killed in a helicopter crash in Calabasas. Variety confirmation (https://variety.com/2020/biz/uncategorized/kobe-bryant-dead-helicopter-crash-lakers-1203480844/)
Edit: Woj confirms that his daughter Gianna (13) was also on the helicopter (https://www.tsn.ca/kobe-bryant-dies-in-helicopter-crash-1.1433037). Fucking hell.
I missed this news literally all day. I wasn’t a huge Kobe Bryant fan on or off the court. In any case, he meant a lot to the Lakers, the city of Los Angeles (and many other cities), the league, and basketball itself. He’ll definitely be missed.I don't know if his daughter was the youngest on the helicopter but his daughter was the oldest daughter who died. 13 years old. Gianna Marie Bryant was her name.
Eight other people died which is an all-around tragedy. Was Gianna the youngest casualty? Everything about even writing that sentence makes me feel ill. A child died, and I’m hoping an even younger child wasn’t involved.
Well I stumbled into some weird stuff on redditI had Kobe Bryant Courtside growing up and I loved it so much growing up. I would like to play as the Nintendo Development team in the game I think they were called Left Field Lefty's.
https://old.reddit.com/r/n64/comments/etugkt/rescued_a_wrecked_copy_of_majoras_mask_someone/
from a day ago.
(To be clear: it's not just Kobe's death that is tragic. Each loss from this accident is horrible. But the others didn't have the same oversized public persona, so the loss feels more abstracted.)I’m glad someone mentioned this.
In minor news, the Lakers/Clippers game scheduled for tomorrow has been postponed; the next Laker game will be Friday.
Wow. Coming from someone who is pretty big on the Mavs being an exciting team this year, WOW.I kinda think the Suns haven't had the right starting lineup and health to build chemistry. I mean the young players all know each other but there was the 25 game Ayton suspension, Ayton playing some and then getting injured and then the wierd lineup of having Rubio, Booker, Oubre Jr, Baynes and Ayton in there.
My problem with the Suns is that I don't trust them to put it together on a night-by-night basis, but when they are hitting it's a pretty amazing show. With so much young talent, you have to feel pretty good about the potential over the next couple of years.
Oh to suddenly find yourself back on the outside and really not even bothering to look in.... Much less, look up, to see where all the rest of you are at.It is coming up in the next two weeks. Feb 14th-16th.
When's All-star weekend?
That's coming up real soon, right?
...
Trade Deadline is February 6th at 3pm EST.
Big trades? Not likely unless they are in the realm of the 9 to 11 seed in their respective confrences. I kinda picture teams making small changes for those that are in playoff contention to solidify their playoff roster like what the Raptors did last year with Marc Gasol....
Trade Deadline is February 6th at 3pm EST.
Does anyone think there will be some big trades? It doesn't feel like much will happen this year, but I'm completely ignorant about roughly half the teams in the NBA so maybe I'm WAY off base.
... I can't find any issue with the other Western reserves, either. The Eastern ones, though? Hmm...
What issues do you have with the East reserves?
What issues do you have with the East reserves?
Pretty much the 2 players you outlined. I'm not sure, though, who I would replace them with since I'm really not all that familiar with the Eastern Conference teams.
*sigh* Yeah, I know we're short-handed tonight, but MAN the Jazz seem to really want their usual 5th Seed these days.
Meh.. the Lakers game is kind of a write-off for long-term takeaways though. Not even "just another regular season game" because of the weird emotional aspects. That said, Whiteside going 13/14 from the field is a bit ridiculous given the size and talent LA has; you have to figure that isn't going to be repeatable going forward.Granted, Lillard and Whiteside going off won’t always happen (Lillard is just eating teams alive out there lately, see Blazers vs Jazz last night). That game was full of the Lakers’ ongoing issues this season. They won’t always be able to flip the switch. Unless the Lakers land Collison and Iguodala, they’re going to repeatedly get exposed in the playoffs. They’re definitely contenders albeit still third (at best) as favorites though.
Speaking of how many players hit 10+ points, congrats to the Nuggets for a great win over the Bucks, where every Denver player who hit the floor scored at least 10! Lots of assists, nine different players hitting double-digits, and a very well-played game. Pretty cool.That’s wild. When was the last time that happened? At the same time, if that is what a team has to do that to comfortably win against the Bucks, I’d love to be the Bucks right now.
Rockets gonna replace Capela w/...... Jordan Bell?The Rockets are 10-1 without Capella this season so I believe they think going extra small is the best path moving forward.
Rockets gonna replace Capela w/...... Jordan Bell?The Rockets are 10-1 without Capella this season so I believe they think going extra small is the best path moving forward.
Houston is speaking with two unnamed Eastern Conference teams, Iko reports, about a center. Additionally, the Rockets are willing to take on additional salary in exchange for assets in a trade.
What do Warriors fans think about getting Wiggins...Look no further than:
Listen I was about to lose my **** if the Warriors turned D'lo into a shittier version of Harrison Barnes.
...Listen I was about to lose my **** if the Warriors turned D'lo into a shittier version of Harrison Barnes.
What do Warriors fans think about getting Wiggins...
With D'lo and KAT together on the T-Wolves I don't expect that Booker is going to be with the Suns much longer.Pardon my ignorance. How are these related?
With D'lo and KAT together on the T-Wolves I don't expect that Booker is going to be with the Suns much longer.
Pardon my ignorance. How are these related?
... I feel like Antetokounmpo deliberately didn’t pick Leonard because of last year’s playoffs. ...
I feel like they shouldn't have needed the crazy, last-second shot - if Houston had won, Utah would've thrown this one away. But wow, what a buzzer beater! One of the best of the season so far? I mean, the defense was solid all around. It was just a huge shot.
(https://i.imgur.com/BlMTPnW.gif)....at least I'm still trying to watch.
... Next season with Steph, Klay, Dray, and Wiggins should be fun though. ...
Your starters, when healthy, are still good enough to contend. I would invest in the future; i.e., keep the pick.
However, I have a feeling that the cost of a #1 pick might be pretty high once you figure in the taxes (luxury; repeat?) that Golden State will be facing in the near future. Unless there is a specific player they really like, I can't help but wonder if they'd be better off flipping a known #1 pick now for a couple unknown picks in the future to delay the rebuild while collecting multiple future assets.
Looks like the NBA All-Star Draft is finished and these are the players drafted to their respective teams.
Team LeBron Starters
LeBron James
Anthony Davis
Kawhi Leonard
Luka Doncic
James Harden
Reserves
Damian Lillard
Ben Simmons
Nikola Jokic
Jayson Tatum
Chris Paul
Russell Westbrook
Domantas Sabonis
Team Giannis Starters
Giannis Antetokounmpo
Joel Embiid
Pascal Siakam
Kemba Walker
Trae Young
Reserves
Khris Middleton
Bam Adebayo
Rudy Gobert
Jimmy Butler
Kyle Lowry
Brandon Ingram
Donovan Mitchell
Anyone have assessments of their team's performance so far, or hopes about what might happen as we approach the end of the regular season? Won't be long now and the final picture will become much clearer - whether that means positioning for playoffs or for lottery picks.Best thing to happen this year for the Lakers this year is getting AD and he has been such a defensive presence and a force on the offensive end. Worse thing is having to temper my expectations on Kuzma of being the 3rd star off the bench. Nowadays I just look at how he is improving his rebounds, defense and assists and any little improvements from him. The second part is how Ingram and Ball have improved while away from the Lakers. This has happened for pretty much all our younger players.
What are the best/worst things that have happened to your team so far this year?
As for buyout options for the Lakers I don't see Rose leaving.You’re probably right, but a girl can dream. 🤷♀️
Now the question is does Cook, Daniels or Talen Horton Tucker get cut for one of these playersIf anyone else gets cut, it’ll be Troy Daniels. Quinn Cook has some guaranteed money next year (not a lot but still) and he has history with Kobe Bryant. Given how Jeanie Buss runs the Lakers like a family, I can’t see them cutting Cook unless absolutely necessary. I think Jared Dudley would get cut before Cook.
you think I'm gonna watch that now? I got things to do man.... (don't got no time to cry)Hey when you get a chance to. On the Lakers YT channel the segments were broken up into their own videos.
I will however forward it to a friend who was a die hard Kobe friend.
although I'm sure he took the day off work to either watch it live or be there.
..., I feel we might've won that one...
The Lakers can’t beat elite teams.I know this is the narrative but the Lakers played excellent defense and contained Giannis and everyone else to win by 10 even though both teams didn't shoot 3s like they usually do. This was a wonderful win and we have clinched our first playoff spot in 7 years!!!
The Lakers can’t beat elite teams.
It's a thing people say about the Raptors. They might be right there. Toronto plays hard, has good depth, and consistently takes care of their business against lesser teams... but there are some very real questions about whether they can complete against the top-tier teams once playoffs start.As long as the Raptors are healthy, I have more faith in them in the playoffs than the Bucks. The Raptors are playoff tested, Leonard or no Leonard. I think Giannis Antetokounmpo can still be taken out of big games mentally. He's 25 so he'll get there. Is this the year? Maybe, maybe not.
Son of a...
Opening quarter for the Raptors vs Jazz, and they are so close to being healthy against for the first time since... before Christmas? Something like that. Of course Norm Powell would go down with an injured ankle after a nasty collision with OG Anunoby. But hey, at least he was healthy long enough to earn Eastern Conference Player of the Week honors first. Oh well. The team was only missing two starters coming in, so how much difference will it make to lose another of their top 7.
(If I sound bitter... well, that's pretty accurate.)
This game (most likely) just went from a competitive match to an easy Jazz victory.
Without trying to discredit the Raptors for fighting through a tough game, this is why people don't take Utah seriously. There is no reason that a team as talented as Utah can't put together a better performance and win against a depleted opponent coming into their home court. Doesn't bode well for the playoffs.
Apologies if that offends Utah fans, but I'm assuming you also feel frustrated after that mess of a game.
That was embarrassing.Yep. Full team versus the Nets without Kyrie. I knew something like this might happen but it is still disappointing to lose. On the last two shots no less. One to take it into OT and one to win it.
That was embarrassing.Yep. Full team versus the Nets without Kyrie. I knew something like this might happen but it is still disappointing to lose. On the last two shots no less. One to take it into OT and one to win it.
This Nets team is a connudrum wrapped into an enigma. There was some reports that KD and Kyrie didn't like their previous head coach and they figured that next season he wouldn't be able to coach KD,KI and DJ and they had the assistant who is actually had them playing better and the players trust. There is also the fact since Kyrie has been out since mid January the same group for the most part that made a run to the playoffs last year and surprised people have that chemisty from last season that they brought to this season and are playing and beating tough teams or staying really close but losing. This team as constructed have very little blowout losses.That was embarrassing.Yep. Full team versus the Nets without Kyrie. I knew something like this might happen but it is still disappointing to lose. On the last two shots no less. One to take it into OT and one to win it.
Kyrie being out might be a good thing for the Nets though? He's an incredible talent but seems to be a disruptive and problematic teammate. (Maybe that's just media spin, maybe not. There's too much smoke behind this particular fire to be ignored though.)
As we are closing in on the end of season, this kind of lackadaisical effort isn't shocking though. Lakers are 5.5 games up on the Clippers, with enough distanced from both Bucks/Raptors that they probably feel pretty comfortable about maintaining their playoff position.
Disappointing? Sure... but as long as they stay healthy at this point you shouldn't get too upset.
I've gone from a doubter prior to the season to a believer in the Lakers. The team composition isn't perfect, but is much better than I had expected it would be. Hard to imagine them losing 4 games to the same team.
I'm not nearly as bullish on the Clippers after watching them play a few game lately. I just don't like the way their offense flows, or the chemistry on that team right now. They still have enough superstar power to win, but more and more it looks like Kawhi leaving Toronto was a bad basketball decision.
The NBA has suspended the season.
Holy crap.
Tonight's Jazz/Thunder game has been postponed at the last second due to Coronavirus Hysteria. The reasoning for this is that the Jazz's Gobert & Mudiay have recently fallen ill of an undiagnosed illness. In response, Rudy Gobert made it a point to put his hand on every mic the press were carrying.
I don't know how to respond to that last part. It transcends that line between being an asshole and being a dumbass.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/coronavirus-nba-postpones-utah-jazz-oklahoma-city-thunder-game-at-chesapeake-energy-arena/ (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/coronavirus-nba-postpones-utah-jazz-oklahoma-city-thunder-game-at-chesapeake-energy-arena/)
The closest comparable I can find to a suspension this late in a season would be when Major League Baseball suspended play after 9/11, but that was only for a week. (It still resulted in the World Series ending on November 4.) In that case, all the games were made up at the end of the regular season.
For the NBA, I doubt every team would lose the same number of games which would make it easy to just write them off. I suppose if they don't spend three weeks on first round playoff series and try to get games in every other night they could probably end around Father's Day as usual, but more likely the draft would be in early July and free agency would probably begin on the 15th or 22nd of July.
I have to take back my comment on Gobert. not an asshole. just your garden variety dumbass.I agree it wasn't smart to mess with the mics like that but what probably happened is that he had the virus before he touched the mics since the incubation period is 14 days so he won't really show many signs so readily after touching the mics at least not at first.
I found out that he previously made light of the Corona Virus in the media room a few days ago, and then as he was leaving the media table, decided to fake cough and then rub his hands all over all the media peoples equipment.
He was then tested afterwards, and found to be positive today before the game.
There's a chance he got it from stupidly joking around, or it's just ironic that he made light of it and then came down with it and shut the whole league down.
So. I take it back. not an asshole. just a dumbass. lol
Hopefully he never gets symptomatic and comes back full strength with the rest of the league.
Thread title continues to be justified. Sayeth Woj: Donovan Mitchell has tested positive because Gobert was touching other players and their belongings. (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1238114778167599110)
Dude might be out of the league before this is all over.
purposely spreading an infectious disease, especially one that has the potential to possibly kill you and/or the person you passed it to, should come with a consequence.
Thread title continues to be justified. Sayeth Woj: Donovan Mitchell has tested positive because Gobert was touching other players and their belongings. (https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1238114778167599110)
Dude might be out of the league before this is all over.
And considering that the Jazz are my team, Gobert is allegedly team co-leader with Donovan, and Gobert is casting a negative public light on the NBA & the Jazz in particular... No, I'm going to continue calling him an asshole AND a dumbass. The SoB was feeling under the weather during the Raptors game, and yet he went out of his way to spread illness. Regardless of him not knowing he had Corobavirus, he still knew he had SOMETHING and spread it.
Speaking of, has the Raptors team been tested yet?
So I just thought of something amusing.
In 1994 MLB cancelled the World Series due to a strike. The defending champions were the Toronto Blue Jays.
Here the NBA season has been suspended and we're not sure what's going to happen with the playoffs. The defending champions? The TORONTO Raptors.
Curse of Toronto!!?
In regards to the Raptors I did see that they were going to get tested while they self quarantine. It very well of could of been the Raptors that had it first but that really doesn't matter. What matters is that people on different organizations self quarantine and get tested.
https://www.raptorshq.com/2020/3/12/21176597/toronto-raptors-coronavirus-self-quarantine-nba-suspended
Is anyone watching old re-runs of games? It's not nearly as much fun as cheering for (and sometimes complaining about) current teams, but options are limited. Thinking about going through the playoffs from last year again - would be nice to follow Portland maybe and see their games since they are always way too late at night in my timezone.
Even though I would only watch a game or two per week, I really miss it now that they aren't happening.
And the Clippers are moving to INGLEWOOD.... eventually.
Ballmer bought the Forum for $400B
https://deadline.com/2020/03/los-angeles-clippers-owner-buys-the-forum-building-new-arena-steve-ballmer-1202891728/
Clippers will finally have a place to hang their... um, well, when they finally get a banner, they will have a place to hang it!!!!
That'd be pretty awesome. So the plan is to jump straight into the playoffs?
Good time to switch to the Top 16 for a test run.
I bet this will be the HIGHEST RATED anything, and something to brag appropriately in these crazy times.
Having all teams in one location, with maybe a couple of venues active so that they could play an abbreviated, maybe almost college-like playoffs could be really exciting.
I hope they don't jump right in though. The play would be sloppy to start, and I'm really worried that conditioning issues would lead to injuries and/or problems. That said, any basketball would be good basketball at this point - even if filled with sloppy and lazy play.
Anyone planning to watch the 2K tournament coming up this week? My team doesn't have a representative, but it still might be interesting. Depends on how much trash talk is allowed through. It would be kind of awesome to have commentators instead of keeping the players on mic all game though.
Well the 15th of April was the last day of the regular season and I was going to go and see the Lakers beat the SunsFTFY
Pretty much. I wanted to see how the new look Lakers from all the buyout additions were going to look as a team. I wanted to see if the Suns were even close to a playoff spot. Things would of been interesting if things were so that the Suns needed to win versus the Lakers to make it into the playoffs. The atmosphere would of been nice. Ah well...Well the 15th of April was the last day of the regular season and I was going to go and see the Lakers beat the SunsFTFY
if you can't guarantee a full end of the season why would you put yourself at risk just to play out a fraction of the games left.At risk for Coronavirus or injury?
It seems like the NBA should do something along the line of what the NHL's doing, with an expanded playoff field and a round robin setup for seeding to get the teams back in form beforehand.
We'd probably get a season that looked like the 2011-12 lockout year: 66 games, starts at Christmas.
This was supposed to be our year. :(Was it though?
This was supposed to be our year. :(Was it though?
Even before the pandemic, the league has entertained moving the start of the season back to December for a while now. I believe this is partially so it doesn’t have as much overlap scheduling with the NFL. This would be as good a time as any to experiment with that. The NBA and NFL seasons would only compete for like one to two months, and it’s the worst basketball of the season as teams develop chemistry and work through off-season rust.
Don't let the NBA get a hold of this. They're doing the rest of the season at Disney World, and Disney is not one to scoff at a marketing opportunity.
If Disney does do this, I hope the seats are packed with Winnie the Pooh stuffed animals.Is that a dig at Chinese President Xi Jinping?
If Disney does do this, I hope the seats are packed with Winnie the Pooh stuffed animals.Is that a dig at Chinese President Xi Jinping?
Don't let the NBA get a hold of this. They're doing the rest of the season at Disney World, and Disney is not one to scoff at a marketing opportunity.
If Disney does do this, I hope the seats are packed with Winnie the Pooh stuffed animals.
I think we may be onto something here.....
but if we can really bring some real tech into play here....
if they could do some stuffed animals (or real dolls) or whatever in the actual audience so it doesn't look so empty for the players, but then give us at home some 3D Mapped CG animated audience in the background, we could be going places with this.
It could be like Real life NBA 2k meets Space Jam, but from Disney (since I don't think Disney has anything to do with Space Jam... WB property). People will tune in for NBA action, but they may stick around to see Mickey Mouse trying to squeeze past Wreck it Ralph to get to the bathroom, and countless other interactions from endless cameos all in the background, intermissions, and halftime shows. Could be pretty entertaining if not asking too much in too short of a time frame.
[ B ]ecause of the George Floyd tragedy and the powerful movement for racial justice that’s sweeping the nation, some players believe it’s bad optics for a league comprised predominantly of black men to be sequestered in one location for up to three months merely to entertain the masses and ease the league’s economic burden.
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Kyrie Irving has organized a call with players for Friday night to discuss their positions regarding the season’s restart, ... [ and ] ... is of the position that players should consider not playing in light of the uproar over racial injustice and the unknowns of COVID-19.
They don't want to draw away the focus and attention of the BLM/Police Reform movement by distracting the masses with America's New Favorite pasttime - Basketball.They can do both. Colin Kaepernick peacefully protested by kneeling during the national anthem. The Heat came out with their hoods up after the murder of Trayvon Martin. The Lakers wore "I can't breathe" shirts after the murder of Eric Garner. The players can use the platform of nationally televised games to keep the protests in social consciousness. And anger Fox News and its viewers so you know, win-win.
I'm sure many of them would rather "stay home" with family and friends, than to risk it all so the league can get it's ratings.At the same time, the players don't get paid if they don't play. Sure, superstar players like will be fine financially. It's dicier for role players on minimum deals.
I miss basketball, but it isn't that important to me. For the protests and call for reform, I think reopening will actually help the cause. However, for the health of the players, I'm more worried about the league playing in Florida. Did it have to be Florida?
Other states would have allowed it. The NHL is using two hub cities for their playoffs and it doesn't look like either one is going to be in Florida. They're playing in Florida because Disney/ESPN wanted them there, and because they have the facilities necessary to hold that many teams.
Other states would have allowed it. The NHL is using two hub cities for their playoffs and it doesn't look like either one is going to be in Florida. They're playing in Florida because Disney/ESPN wanted them there, and because they have the facilities necessary to hold that many teams.
NBA needs to back out.... Unless all involved are 100% locked down on Disney campus. Fully self sufficient. FL on the way towards bring the next NY now.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-06-20/florida-covid-19-cases-rise-by-4-049-the-most-during-pandemic
https://twitter.com/NumbersMuncher/status/1274382237346205696?s=20
It's not worth the risk. And more important things are going on.
Woj reports:
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1276530837018882048?s=21
16 of the 302 players tested have tested positive for COVID-19
Can we start a poll..... 2 parter.
1) Who think the NBA will continue this year despite everything happening in Florida?
2) Regardless of your answer to the above question, who wants it to restart anyway?
Can we start a poll..... 2 parter.1. I know it’s official now, but my answer would have been yes anyway. I still think restarting in Florida is a bad idea. I get the whole Disney World thing; it’s just... you know... Florida gonna Florida.
1) Who think the NBA will continue this year despite everything happening in Florida?
2) Regardless of your answer to the above question, who wants it to restart anyway?
Woj reports:
https://twitter.com/wojespn/status/1276530837018882048?s=21
16 of the 302 players tested have tested positive for COVID-19
Can we start a poll..... 2 parter.
1) Who think the NBA will continue this year despite everything happening in Florida?
2) Regardless of your answer to the above question, who wants it to restart anyway?
(Executive vice president of basketball operations David) Griffin, citing privacy laws, did not say which players tested positive, but he did say those players are in isolation. He added that the three tests took place when players returned to the facility last week.
You can put an asterisk over anything ... History books ... a championship is a championship.
For context, someone used the NBA’s anonymous tip line to snitch on Dwight Howard for not wearing a mask in the bubble last week. I believe he was commenting on or referring to that. Howard is comparing being alone in the bubble to being in alone in a car. Ehh, I get where that line of thinking comes from except that’s false equivalence. It’s incorrect because for one, the bubble is full of people, particularly Disney employees who work there but leave to go home even if they’re required to always wear a mask on the clock. And how alone was Howard if someone already reported him?
Disappointed the Pelicans lost.
The Raptors sweep the season series because the Lakers just didn't feel like playing basketball tonight.
Hahaha... I'm seeing a lot of this sentiment online, but it's crap. Lakers lost because they were outplayed.LOL, what part is crap? Of course the Lakers got outplayed. They lost. Any team gets outplayed when the opposing team beats them. 🤷♀️
But hold onto those sour grapes if they make you feel better. Raptors being a legit (if unlikely) contender clearly isn't a narrative some people are interested in.You’re talking trash about spectator sports neither of us have any direct involvement in. Grow up.
;D
I'm pretty sure that after your team loses and you attribute that to a bunch of well-rested pros who simply "didn't feel like playing basketball" instead of giving credit to the other team for playing tough defense and giving more effort, that's a weak cop out and disrespectful to players on both teams.Come on, man. Seriously? My initial post about this game was a half-joke (more on that later). I tried to clarify with my next post and you're still coming at me. Alright, let's try this again:
As long as the Raptors are healthy, I have more faith in them in the playoffs than the Bucks. The Raptors are playoff tested, Leonard or no Leonard.So don't come at me like I haven't given credit where credit is due.
Not sure about where you grew up, but we were taught that humility includes giving some credit after a loss, instead of lame one-liners that discredit the opponent.Passive aggressive personal insults are completely uncalled for.
But maybe you are right. The loss is just because the Lakers didn't feel like playing, and I need to grow up.Dude, you need to stop misrepresenting other people's words. Sure, my initial post about the game was unclear. Then, I elaborated yet you're still running with "The loss is just because the Lakers didn't feel like playing."
:rolleyes:
Sure dude, whatever.Yeah, okay. Thanks for proving my point about needing to grow up.
Those are reasonable predictions.Looking like I'll have to take back that Thunder sweep. I'm still taking them for the series. I couldn't predict the Rockets would shoot 10% better on three pointers and their bench going off.
Hilarity ensues one the Rockets are eliminated by the Thunder.
is it happening!!!?It is. Might as well be pick up where they left off the last time they were in the playoffs and get swept again.
I don't think it is, but it's fun to see it play out
...they're going to keep jacking up three pointers hoping Kobe The Sixth Man's them into the basket. Anyone else remember that 1997 film? No? Alrighty.
The Jazz are killing me. I missed the first three minutes, but since then, they have passed up three layups for kick out three pointers. Where’s broodwars when you need him?
Decided to take a break from the site a month or 2 ago. I found that I was getting way too invested in the fate of my posts & occasionally taking it out on people, when my posts were even noticed.Good on you for taking a mental health break. As for unnoticed posts (or no responses), that's just what happens. People get busy, miss posts, forget to respond, have nothing to add etc. It’s best not to take that personally. I was having a whole conversation with myself on the previous page. 🤷♀️
Between the grandstanding with the political messages on the jerseys...From the league or players? I don't think it's grandstanding.
the Jazz intentionally tanking to get the 6th Seed to avoid the LakersEhh, really? Davis is a bad matchup for the Gobert, but overall, the Clippers are deeper. Avoid the Lakers to play the Clippers is a weird game plan. Chances are a team will have to run through both Los Angeles teams.
wait, what happened?Yeah, Draft Lottery was tonight.
they decided who gets first pick?
For Game 2 (not that I'm an expert):The Lakers did most of these. They didn't get Nurkic and Whiteside in foul trouble, but they did attack the basket. The Blazers didn't have an answer for that. Dion Waiters played mostly garbage time. I feel like Vogel is afraid Waiters is going to get torched on defense against Lillard.
- Limit shooting three pointers if not at least 30% by halftime.
- Danny Green gets five chances to hit at least two three pointers. Failing that, pump fake then drive. It's there all game.
- Alex Caruso isn't allowed to waste possessions shooting three pointers.
- Run the pick and roll.
- Attack the basket and get Nurkic and Whiteside in foul trouble.
- If Nurkic and Whiteside are off the floor, attack the basket even more.
- Lillard and McCollum will get theirs, make it hard for them and force anyone else to beat you.
- Play Dion Waiters for the love of......... otherwise, why did you sign him?
Apparently the Lakers, Blazers, Thunder, Rockets and Magic have all joined the protest.
There will be NO NBA GAMES TODAY.
(https://i.imgur.com/X7ADtUS.png)
The League should just cancel the playoffs at this point and send all the teams home if the Players are still going to pull this grandstanding B.S.Ew. I can't grasp how anyone can even have this opinion. The NBPA is primarily made up of people of color, and you're accusing them of grandstanding, a word I'm not sure you actually know the definition of. People are dying. What is wrong with you?
If I don't show up to work because I'm mad about an unrelated matter, I would be fired. NBA players, though, get a paycheck and a night at a 5 star resort while their employers look for a day that works better for them as they appease their poor, hurt, woefully-ignorant, mult-million dollar feelings.Maybe you should look for a better job if you're so fucking appalled by other people's (clearly better) work environment and culture. The league and each organization can fine every single player who didn't show up to work today. They won't. I can take a PTO day tomorrow if I want. If you can't, maybe that's kind of your fault for staying at a job that doesn't allow you to, and you should stop taking that out on other people.
Things like this are why relatively no one is watching the NBA's games right now.It's funny that you think everyone thinks like you.
Let's be honest here: The players are in a position of privilege to be able to walk away from their jobs over an issue they care about and have people listen. Many people who also care about these issues can't always just walk out and are seldom heard when they speak. The players, whose hard work put them in this position, can be the voice for so many and keep these issues at the forefront. They know this; they're just as impacted by these issues as people protesting; and they're doing something.Well said.
The bottom line.....I agree though I also acknowledge this is the same country in which a frighteningly large portion of the population can't be bothered to wear a face covering to protect others and especially themselves so we have our work cut out for us.
(https://i.imgur.com/UPootGa.jpg)
💯 America gotta do and be better.
NBA is set to have a Governor's meeting (I assume that's a meeting of the team "owners" and league managing directors) in about 20 minutes - 11am ESTI believe the term "owner" was officially changed last year despite, for example, pushback from Mark Cuban's white fragility. "Owner" as shorthand for "team owner" was innocuous though the change was for the best. I always found it awkward when black players referred to their "owners" even if I understood the context. Besides Dan Gibert's infamous
The League should just cancel the playoffs at this point and send all the teams home if the Players are still going to pull this grandstanding B.S.Ew. I can't grasp how anyone can even have this opinion. The NBPA is primarily made up of people of color, and you're accusing them of grandstanding, a word I'm not sure you actually know the definition of. People are dying. What is wrong with you?QuoteIf I don't show up to work because I'm mad about an unrelated matter, I would be fired. NBA players, though, get a paycheck and a night at a 5 star resort while their employers look for a day that works better for them as they appease their poor, hurt, woefully-ignorant, mult-million dollar feelings.Maybe you should look for a better job if you're so fucking appalled by other people's (clearly better) work environment and culture. The league and each organization can fine every single player who didn't show up to work today. They won't. I can take a PTO day tomorrow if I want. If you can't, maybe that's kind of your fault for staying at a job that doesn't allow you to, and you should stop taking that out on other people.
I'm not especially surprised you went full-broodwars® by calling other people ignorant while spreading ignorance. Many (especially younger) players don't actually make that much money after taxes, agent fees, union fees etc. Not everyone is Damian Lillard on a supermax contract.QuoteThings like this are why relatively no one is watching the NBA's games right now.It's funny that you think everyone thinks like you.
1. Grandstanding: "to play or act so as to impress onlookers" - Source (Webster's Dictionary)What are your expectations here?
These NBA players offer no solutions. They whine, they parade around slogans, and speak in generalities. They demand "societal change" while eagerly taking money from China, a nation openly practicing genocide right now among other atrocities.
2. I work in a critical role in a small business that can't afford for me to be out a day without 2 weeks notice, as I generate & coordinate all reports to our clients as well as process our highest-value invoices. I am the only person there who does what I do. We are working on finding someone who can sub for me so I can afford to take more than handful of days off a year, but it's a slow process when the general populace is incompetent.I'm sorry your work situation is such a flustercuck, but again, maybe you should look for a better job. I'm not implying that doing so is easy especially in the middle of a pandemic. However, your anger toward players who boycotted on Wednesday seems misdirected. It really isn't their fault that they work at a job that allows them to do what they did while you are not afforded the same luxury. I wonder if you're at all angry that we live in a socio-economic system that allows the small business you work for to even function the way you described.
To elaborate on what I said before, though, it is rather tone-deaf for the NBA players to decide to just walk off the job when millions of people in the US, presumably some of which are among their fans, are unemployed.
3. Viewership for the 2020 NBA Playoffs is down 40-50% compared to 2019. Yes, compared to the general size of the US populace, relatively no one is watching this year's playoffs. You can feel free to blame there being non-prime time playoff games this year, but regardless the playoffs have not been wildly successful so far.I'm not arguing that viewership is down. You flat out said, "Things like this are why relatively no one is watching the NBA's games right now." You are claiming viewership is down due to things like grandstanding without a shred of evidence.
https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2020/08/nba-playoff-ratings-abc-down-lakers-blazers/ (https://www.sportsmediawatch.com/2020/08/nba-playoff-ratings-abc-down-lakers-blazers/)
4. Regarding the "People are dying. What is wrong with you?" and "ignorant" quips.You're claiming the players are willfully ignorant when they haven't mentioned any of the above (which I'll have to fact check because I admittedly haven't read everything there is to read about the shooting of Jacob Blake). You're assuming they don't know the facts of the incident or they're blatantly ignoring the facts which is unfair because you're not privy to what they do and do not know. That said, people (including the players) are upset about this because Rusten Sheskey firing seven bullets seemed excessive. Was it excessive? I don't have enough information to make that call even if my gut is telling me yes.
The NBA players are willfully ignorant regarding the shooting & crippling of Jacob Blake. Even by the time of their "strike" yesterday, information had been released by the police that showed Jacob Blake had multiple warrants for his arrest, including sexual assault. The police were on the scene because Blake was somewhere he wasn't supposed to be accosting a woman for her car keys. He resisted arrest & apparently a taser hit. He then proceeded to ignore the gun-pointing police officers & make his way back to his car. He then reached into the car as if to grab a weapon, and as it turns out there was a knife found right where he was reaching.
Now, you're a police officer & you have a suspect resisting arrest & going for a weapon. The taser has already failed & you don't have time to wait to see what the weapon the suspect is drawing is. You don't want to try to "tackle" him, Lebron James, because then you risk having a George Flynn all over again. The only logical choice there is to shoot to protect yourself. The shooting of Jacob Blake was completely justified by the facts of the case, and a court of law (if necessary) will prove that. Instead of following the facts of the case, though, the NBA players decided to declare "SYSTEMIC RACISM" and freak out (would you prefer that to "grandstanding")?That's a weird take.
As for the kid arrested for killing 1 sex offender (yes, that has been confirmed) and wounding 2 other people, I leave this Twitter Thread from the New York Times. Read it. Don't read it. I don't care.While you acknowledged that Kyle Rittenhouse shouldn't have been there, it's super weird that you mentioned he killed a sex offender because that's irrelevant. Stop trying to distort what happened here and somewhat justify what Rittenhouse did because of who he killed. It doesn't matter that Joseph Rosenbaum was a registered sex offender. He shouldn't have been murdered.
https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1298839097923063809 (https://twitter.com/trbrtc/status/1298839097923063809)
The kid should face consequences for bringing his gun across state lines, where it is illegal. That charge is perfectly valid. He should not have been there.
As for the shootings, though, the evidence so far shows they were in self-defense as the mob attempted to beat him to death (and self-defense against another gun-wielder in one instance). That will need to be proven in a court of law, of course, but I guarantee you that 1st Degree Murder Charge isn't going to stick just on the facts.The mental gymnastics you're performing here to justify this is mind-boggling.
He was not shot by the police when attempting to turn himself in because he was not pointing a gun at the police. That is not systemic racism. That is "not being stupid".It is systemic racism because the treatment would not be the same if Rittenhouse was black. Several police vehicles drove right past a white boy carrying a semi-automatic weapon. Video evidence shows that while Rittenhouse did have his hands up, he actually reaches down and touches his gun a couple times right in front of police while walking towards them (at one point, he held the barrel for a few seconds). They didn't even arrest him then. After killing two people and wounding another, Rittenhouse was able to flee back to Illinois where he was finally arrested.
...some of those facts (like the 2nd person in the Rittenhouse shootings dying of their injuries & the additional felony charges) happened without me being aware of them. I hadn't seen any new information on this matter since that morning/early afternoon, and these situations change quickly.It was in the link you provided, in the first Tweet no less. My understanding is Tweets cannot be edited. You literally said, "Read it. Don't read it. I don't care." And yes, I read it before I responded, and now, I'm not convinced you even read it.
Also, going after a typo as indication of something sinister? Really?
From what I understand, the police gave him that water prior to the shooting, when nothing had happened.Irrelevant. It doesn't matter when it happened but rather that it happened. Police treated Rittenhouse with kindness in a situation he had no business being part of when they wouldn't extend the same courtesy to a black teenager. They didn't even check if he legally owned that gun. Again, this is systemic racism.
I ended my previous post the way I did because this subject is extremely political, and politics are specifically banned on this site. I left that bit at the end to make it clear to the mods that I wasn't intending to push any further on the subject.I'm trying to be respectful in my responses so if mods tell us to cut it out, then I'll cut it out.
No, I'm not choked up about Rittenhouse killing a convicted pedophile in apparent self defense.Okay, but that's beside the point and not relevant. Rittenhouse didn't go to Kenosha to kill a registered sex offender; he went there to play vigilante for the day and happened to kill a registered sex offender. The details of Rosenbaum's criminal past in no way changes the context of Rittenhouse's crime because they're not related. Attempting to conflate the two is a straight up strawman, and you need to stop that.
I don't particularly care what you think of me, Adrock. However, I've been on this site a good many years, so I was not about to allow you to insinuate certain things about my character here.I mean, you took the time to write a lot of words "defending yourself" (which I addressed above) and not addressing almost everything else so I kind of disagree with you there.
Chris Paul sharing:
https://www.instagram.com/p/CEcXPEIhueC/?igshid=ekgwopa54zjj
Well, there's increased Twitter chatter in the possibility of a Bucks early exit from the playoffs vs the Heat.I'm all for salt; I just don't know how the Warriors get Giannis Antetokounmpo via trade without including Steph Curry or Klay Thompson because no one wants Andrew Wiggins period and Draymond Green isn't worth his contract on any other team except the Warriors. They had to pay him because he's the heart of the team, but he doesn't have that emotional currency with the other 29 teams. Let's be realistic, no way the Warriors trade Curry. That said, Thompson coming off a major injury and the second pick is still a tough sell to the Bucks. Maybe they bring in a third team, but who helps the Warriors land Giannis Antetokounmpo?
And that leading to Giannis forcing a trade to Golden State.
As much as I'd LOVE to see it happen 😈
I'm not sure how likely it is to happen.
But damn would the league be salty as ****. 🤣
Well, there's increased Twitter chatter in the possibility of a Bucks early exit from the playoffs vs the Heat.I'm all for salt; I just don't know how the Warriors get Giannis Antetokounmpo via trade without including Steph Curry or Klay Thompson because no one wants Andrew Wiggins period and Draymond Green isn't worth his contract on any other team except the Warriors.
And that leading to Giannis forcing a trade to Golden State.
As much as I'd LOVE to see it happen 😈
I'm not sure how likely it is to happen.
But damn would the league be salty as ****. 🤣
Now this is if Giannis request a trade, forcing the team to make a move. And if he specifically requested to be traded to GS. Would the above be enough? Do you think we could give less? Maybe keeping that Minnesota pick for 2021? Maybe keeping Paschal? Is the idea just laughable w/o touching Klay in the trade?Antetokounmpo can request a trade all he wants; the Bucks don't have to trade him and certainly not to his destination of choice. My point was the Bucks don't and shouldn't want Andrew Wiggins for the next three years. Why would they take that contract? I don't even know why the Warriors made that trade for what they got in return. Losing Antetokounmpo means the Bucks are no longer in contention, and Wiggins doesn't help the Bucks in any way. His max contract would take up cap space the Bucks could use to absorb bad contracts in exchange for draft picks that could be packaged later for better draft picks or players.
edit: under the goal of signing Giannis to GS, is there a better avenue?I answered most of these in my previous post.
should we just wait a year and get his as a FA?
edit: And just for conversation sake, if Giannis were to make a forced trade, where do you think he would most likely land? and what would that team(s) have to give up to make it happen?
The Clippers are looking like frauds.
Clippers vs. Nuggets was poo poo. I’m rooting for the Nuggets, but they’re straight up outclassed. They need another piece or two. I would have rather watched Donovan Mitchell.I will gladly eat this crow. Thanks for eliminating these chokers, Nuggets.
End of regulation and overtime of Celtics vs. Heat was AMAZING. I'm rooting for the Heat in this series so I'm happy with the outcome.
Wouldn't this be Miami's fist ring without Wade? That's a difference. Plus it's Jimmy butler's first. Or a revival of the Celtics/Lakers rivalry. Those should be exciting enough, no?I think Broodwars is he is tired of reruns and it isn't as exciting for him.
Doc Rivers out as LA Clippers head coach, sources say (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/29995811/doc-rivers-la-clippers-head-coach-sources-say)
Yeah, that was definitely the easiest prediction I've made all season, considering all that "load management" they did with Leonard only to fall apart in the playoffs anyway.Nah, that doesn't track at all. Load management worked literally last year with the same player you're failing to dunk all over. Also, every team in the bubble was coming off four months of rest. Just stop pushing that narrative, man. It's objectively incorrect.
I hope they close out the Finals tonight.So much for that. 🤷♀️
This game was won by Butler getting foul calls and on Markieff on that bad lob pass to AD that sailed out of bounds. Green, KCP and LeBron was open.That last foul on Anthony Davis that put Jimmy Butler on the free throw line normally doesn't get called that late in a Finals game. There was a case for verticality. More importantly, Butler got five offensive rebounds. The Heat only had nine in the game, but it felt like roughly infinity more. It was like 10:45 PM EST and I straight up yelled "GET A GODDAMN REBOUND FOR ****'S SAKE!" right out loud. Sorry, neighbors.
I tuned in for the last minute of the game.This game was won by Butler getting foul calls and on Markieff on that bad lob pass to AD that sailed out of bounds. Green, KCP and LeBron was open.That last foul on Anthony Davis that put Jimmy Butler on the free throw line normally doesn't get called that late in a Finals game. There was a case for verticality. More importantly, Butler got five offensive rebounds. The Heat only had nine in the game, but it felt like roughly infinity more. It was like 10:45 PM EST and I straight up yelled "GET A GODDAMN REBOUND FOR ****'S SAKE!" right out loud. Sorry, neighbors.
The Lakers also gave up two four-point plays. They also technically gave up a six-point play (three-point play off a flagrant foul then Duncan Robinson hit a three). Like how do you even manage that in a Finals game? Until the fourth quarter, every time the Lakers got within a couple points or even tied, they would do some dumb **** like that and give the Heat another cushion. Most teams aren't going to win if they fall behind by 11 points multiple times a game. There were a lot of lapses on defense from a normally elite defensive team. The Lakers let the Heat dictate the pace of the game.
There's no part of me that thinks the Heat can manage three in a row barring a major injury to LeBron James or Anthony Davis (the re-aggravated bone bruise is not ideal, but the medical staff will shoot his foot full of Cortisone and/or the blood of Jesus Christ on Sunday if they have to). Jimmy Butler had to play almost the entire game for the Heat to win by three. Can he do that two more times in a row? He's excellent, but I'll believe it when I see it. The Lakers just have to get back to what got them to the Finals in the first place: shutting teams the **** down. And maybe someone other than James, Davis, and KCMVP showing up on offense.
The Lakers tend to play much, much harder after a loss so I'm hoping for a major bounce back game. It's almost a good thing. Like, y'all have to lose before you get your **** together? I guess. Hope we get #17 on Sunday.
I tuned in for the last minute of the game.This game was won by Butler getting foul calls and on Markieff on that bad lob pass to AD that sailed out of bounds. Green, KCP and LeBron was open.That last foul on Anthony Davis that put Jimmy Butler on the free throw line normally doesn't get called that late in a Finals game. There was a case for verticality. More importantly, Butler got five offensive rebounds. The Heat only had nine in the game, but it felt like roughly infinity more. It was like 10:45 PM EST and I straight up yelled "GET A GODDAMN REBOUND FOR ****'S SAKE!" right out loud. Sorry, neighbors.
The Lakers also gave up two four-point plays. They also technically gave up a six-point play (three-point play off a flagrant foul then Duncan Robinson hit a three). Like how do you even manage that in a Finals game? Until the fourth quarter, every time the Lakers got within a couple points or even tied, they would do some dumb **** like that and give the Heat another cushion. Most teams aren't going to win if they fall behind by 11 points multiple times a game. There were a lot of lapses on defense from a normally elite defensive team. The Lakers let the Heat dictate the pace of the game.
There's no part of me that thinks the Heat can manage three in a row barring a major injury to LeBron James or Anthony Davis (the re-aggravated bone bruise is not ideal, but the medical staff will shoot his foot full of Cortisone and/or the blood of Jesus Christ on Sunday if they have to). Jimmy Butler had to play almost the entire game for the Heat to win by three. Can he do that two more times in a row? He's excellent, but I'll believe it when I see it. The Lakers just have to get back to what got them to the Finals in the first place: shutting teams the **** down. And maybe someone other than James, Davis, and KCMVP showing up on offense.
The Lakers tend to play much, much harder after a loss so I'm hoping for a major bounce back game. It's almost a good thing. Like, y'all have to lose before you get your **** together? I guess. Hope we get #17 on Sunday.
Perfect timing. Hope they push it to 7.
Saw Green miss another wiiiiiide open 3, and then a time follow-up pass fish the middle that went straight outta bounds.
Heat in 7!!
LA LAKERS ARE THE NBA CHAMPIONS FOR THE 17TH TIME!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!(http://i.imgur.com/wBUwHYW.gif)
🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂🧂(http://i.imgur.com/TFxW4.gif)
Asterisks are silly. One could come up with lots of reasons someone was crowned Champ and they don't even have to be legit.You’re not wrong. However, I don’t mind that asterisk. If anything, it was a tougher road because of everything that happened (e.g. Kobe’s death, the pandemic, the social justice movement etc). I think people downplay how hard it was for every team in the bubble to be separated from most of their family and friends.
And it's not really the championship that has the asterisk; it's the season as a whole. The League was impacted, all players, teams, coaches, staff, etc were impacted. If this happened in the middle of the finals, then sure, put it on the winners. But COVID happened to everyone.
But replacements aside, all teams came in rested and got to go 100% with a full roster. So it's not to say the winner didn't deserve a ring, it's just that the circumstances that led to anyone getting a ring leaves an asterisks on this season. 2020 was just, and continues to be, that kind of year.
man, the salt.... we had a good run.
changed the game. Even made Harden want give up and switch teams.
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we made a wish on a monkeys paw here in The Bay.
the bill has come due. hopefully this is the last year of the curse.
i like to watch the Splash Bros play together.
we don't always gotta win, but it's nice knowing we got a squad that always got a chance, or at least make it fun to watch.
Interested parties would like to know your thoughts on the Warriors too....I wrote a whole thing the other day when Klay Thompson's Achilles injury was official. I got distracted and didn't post it so I figured the window closed on commenting. Basically, without Thompson, it's curtains for the Warriors this season as far as contention. The Warriors did their best in an awful situation. Snagging a solid rotation player in Kelly Oubre is better than letting the Andre Iguodala trade exception expire though he's coming off a torn meniscus so not great. Bringing back Kent Bazemore is a good move. He apparently turned down eight other offers. The Warriors should make the playoffs if everyone stays healthy.
asking for a friend. lol
and I didn't see all the trades and drafts, but who did the Sixers pick up to get such praise?It's less about who the Sixers picked up than who they shipped off. Last summer, the Sixers signed Al Horford to a $109 million contract or ~$27 million per year, the last year guaranteed for $14.5 million when he'll be 36. Ewww......... Joel Embiid and Ben Simmons need shooters around them to spread the floor, the Sixers let their best shooter walk (JJ Reddick) then signed the absolute worst fit with Embiid and Simmons. I defended Horford's signing last year, but in practice, woof....... (freezing cold take from me, my bad)
I'm most impressed by the Hawks. They should be a playoff team, especially if the Kings don't match the offer sheet for Bogdan Bogdanović. The Kings absolutely should, but Kings gonna King.(http://i.imgur.com/pfo8jxm.gif)
Gotta play with Bronny Jr.
Or at least that's the hope.
I hope he makes it, and his son can join the team too.
Edit: and did you hear that all 3 Ball Bros /Baller Brand are now officially in the NBA.
LiAngelo got signed with The Pistons today.
AD signs a 5 year 190 mil deal to stay with the Lakers. Lakers are having a dynasty now!!!Whoa, settle down, miss. The Lakers have to win more than one to be a dynasty.
AD signs a 5 year 190 mil deal to stay with the Lakers. Lakers are having a dynasty now!!!Whoa, settle down, miss. The Lakers have to win more than one to be a dynasty.
I'm both surprised and not surprised Anthony Davis signed a five year deal even with the opt out. If he signed a two-and-one, he could have opted out and signed the 10-year veterans max which the Lakers would have gladly offered. At the same time, this mofo spent all of the last season repeatedly either falling to the floor, doubled over in pain or getting poked in the eye. In that case, secure that bag.
I think it was the smart play for AD to secure that mid-term bag. The risk of injury is looming over his head, so that 10 year deal may not have panned out for him. Getting titles now (assumption) and letting the resume speak for itself could work out better for him. And who knows? Maybe he'll come back to New Orleans to end his-- nevermind, this sentence isn't realistic enough to finish.True, but also consider:
Sam Presti is licking his lips in anticipation of sending 15 draft picks to the Bucks for Antetokounmpo and still having 27 more.
Yeah... I wouldn’t want to pay Rudy Gobert $205 million to be a non-factor on offense. While he’s an elite interior and team defender, he’s easily exploitable on the perimeter. At the same time, this was the best and only option for the Jazz. His skill set isn’t replaceable, and Utah isn’t an especially attractive free agency destination. Someone would have offered Gobert a max contract next off-season. Better to make this not a distraction all year.
I read an article in which Gobert stated he wants to be more involved on offense.
(https://i.ibb.co/9p31xJK/tenor.gif)
Admittedly, I’m not super-familiar with the Jazz. Why would Snyder ever run anything for Gobert over Mitchell, Conley, Bogdonovic, or even Ingles? I mean, other than to shut him up for a bit. Everything goes through Mitchell if the Jazz want to win games. He’s the team’s leading scorer and best player. GTFO with Gobert being more involved on offense unless it’s to set screens then go away.
Nobody wanna talk about (one of) the worst shooting performance in Steph Curry's NBA career, but somehow still beat the Raptors by 1?I'm down to talk about NBA games, news etc. However, I have spent huge swaths of the last few months mostly talking to myself in this thread. It just seems like no one wants to discuss anything unless it's about their team. That's fine and all, but it makes me less interested in taking time to start discussions. For example, I've wanted to bring up the James Harden situation (short version: his behavior was unacceptable), but I figured no one was interested so I just let that go.
No.... no one?
ok.
Nobody wanna talk about (one of) the worst shooting performance in Steph Curry's NBA career, but somehow still beat the Raptors by 1?I'm down to talk about NBA games, news etc. However, I have spent huge swaths of the last few months mostly talking to myself in this thread. It just seems like no one wants to discuss anything unless it's about their team. That's fine and all, but it makes me less interested in taking time to start discussions.
No.... no one?
ok.
As for Harden...You guys know where I stand on player empowerment. I have a line though. I'm fine with players requesting a trade. I'm even fine with players doing so publicly if they don't mind paying the $50,000 penalty. However, go to work. That is what the contract is for. A person doesn't have to be happy with their employment situation, but they are still obligated to do their job so long as they're getting paid. The Rockets should have fined Harden several times for conduct detrimental to the team. Instead, they bent over the coffee table to hopefully convince him to stay even though the writing was all over the wall. Harden handled this as poorly as someone could have, and not that it matters, but it makes me dislike him as a player even more.
I didn't exactly follow everything that was going on with him.
he threw a tantrum, risked his team exposure on purpose, late to training camp, assaulted a team mate, and requested a trade.... as if all of that was going to make him attractive to another team.
I also noticed that the Pels Mavs game was postponed. Was there a reason for that?Mavericks game against Pelicans postponed due to COVID protocols (https://www.mavsmoneyball.com/2021/1/11/22225116/mavericks-game-against-pelicans-postponed-due-to-covid-protocols)
and how about Melo Ball....Right now, he would be Rookie of the Year. The season is still early so we'll see.
showed up his older brother head to head. Now the youngest to have recorded a Triple Double
and he's been a solid producer on his team when it comes to points and other stats as well.
Could he be running for Rookie of the year if he keeps this up?
Yeah...even if I was inclined to follow news about other teams, I don't have Cable anymore and my family cut our League Pass subscription after last season to save money, so I can't even watch the Jazz play anymore, let alone any other team. Makes it difficult to follow basketball right now.If you don't mind being a little unethical, you can probably find free streams online. Not saying you should, but you can.
I still don't see the Nets as being better than the Sixers, Bucks, or Heat. I'm kind of tired of Kyrie Irving being a weirdo (i.e. flat-earther, burning sage etc). The Nets gave up a ton of assets though they have shown an incredible ability to bounce back. Trading for Harden just seemed like a panic move that absolutely did not need to happen right now. If they were going to panic about anything, maybe get some f-ing defense.
Side-note since broodwars brought him up: If we're talking about just basketball, Karl Malone was hard to like because of dirty play masquerading as being part of a tougher era in the NBA. For me, Malone is hard to like because his personal life is fraught with what-the-****. Normally, I don't really care about professional athletes' personal lives as long as they aren't hurting others. Malone's personal history is just so egregiously what-the-****. The short version for everyone else: at 17, he abandoned his first two kids (twins) for nearly two decades then sired a child with a minor (he was 20; she was 13) who he subsequently abandoned for three decades. Malone has since apparently mended those relationships. Still, just seems like if you score nearly 37,000 points in your career, you can get a statue no matter how much of an asshole you were.
Craziness though that the Harden trade finally materialized.Absolutely had to be, or at least what Kevin Durant asked for. The Nets may end up trading Kyrie Irving at some point due to what a weirdo he is. If they can use James Harden to keep Durant past his current contract, this trade will have been well worth it.
I wonder if it's what KD and/ Kyrie asked for.
I don't really see it working out. Kyrie already likes to be a 1 man show. And Harden likes to dribble the air out the ball before creating a BS foul.Normally, I’d say superstar players can figure it out by understanding the hierarchy of who is the first, second, and third option, but Irving is the problem. He was on a championship team with LeBron James and thought he was the first, second, AND third option. GTFO, man. Perhaps a bigger problem is two out of the three are minus defenders, and the other one is coming off a torn Achilles. Durant has looked good this year all things considered; there’s just no way he is or ever will be pre-torn Achilles level Durant again.
Who else came up in the 4 team trade?Normally, I’d post a Let Me Google That For You link (even though I already posted a link to an article), but I can appreciate laziness, and I’m feeling charitable.
TBH, after i asked here, I saw the trade tweet that stated who got what.(https://i.ibb.co/nrynBbW/B6556181-A943-47-AD-8-D29-97842-BD4-AFF4.jpg)
I guess you gotta give something to get something, especially when it's as "high value" as a James Harden.That’s the extent of it, I’m sure. It’s strange the Nets seemed to be negotiating from a weaker position as if they needed Harden’s talent more than the Rockets had to shake off a malcontent primadonna. Everyone knew Harden didn’t want to be in Houston, was sulking like a child despite the Rockets literally doing everything he asked for, and is currently out of shape. On top of that, there were no other viable trade partners except the Sixers who the Rockets didn’t want to deal with due to Daryl Morey. If I were the Sixers, I wouldn’t trade Ben Simmons for Harden. If I were the Rockets, I’d rather have Ben Simmons locked in until 2025 and fewer picks than what they got.
I really am not sure if this Big 3 works as intended though.Depends on what’s intended. Win a championship? Probably not. Brute force wins in the regular season by overwhelming opponents with offense? Sure.
Although i saw some speculation online that everything Kyrie has been doing up to this point was to dissuade the Rockets, or any other team from requesting him as part of the trade for Harden. Some real 4D checkers moves. LOLSounds like Irving. Was he ever on the trade block? He wouldn’t make sense on the Rockets who already have Irving’s post-torn Achilles doppelgänger, John Wall. Then again, I’m not sure the Rockets really know what they’re doing yet.
What happens when Kyrie comes back though?Whiff a game against the Cavaliers apparently.
Just fixing this.What happens when Kyrie comes back though?Whiffa gametwo games against the Cavaliers apparently.
this moment was BULLSHITYeah. I stopped watching the game after that nonsense. The NBA retroactively rescinded the technical foul (the refs even admitted at halftime that it was the wrong call), but they still cost the Warriors the game. I think Steve Kerr was trying to use his coach's challenge which he would have won because you can hear Green yelling at Wiseman. The refs weren't having that at all so unfortunately, there's now precedent for that (not sure if anyone else tried that before). At the same, Green got his first technical foul like four minutes into the game. Come on, man.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dovmy2ZIlK0
We got slaughtered, as expected.
Curry moved to #2, as predicted
It was not a good game for the Dubs, but I only larger to the first half.
I missed what exactly was said by the TNT crew, Shaq specifically this time, but we know Shaq and Barkley consistently have terrible taskes. I heard Durant wasn't having it, but I still never actually took the time to find out surgically what it was all about.
I mostly agree with the takes in the first clip. Kenny's criteria for what makes a superstar is sound. I can't really argue with Shaq and Barkley saying Mitchell isn't a superstar. He isn't, not yet anyway. Mitchell is in his fourth year. Can y'all give him a minute? Not everyone is Michael Jordan. Wardell (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MtsHqnn-VM0) Curry wasn't a superstar until what, his fifth or sixth season. I don't mean that as a Curry-Mitchell player comparison, just pointing out it's okay that Mitchell isn't a superstar right now. At 24, he's probably like three years from entering his prime. I'm extremely high on Mitchell so I think he gets there.
In the second clip, Shaq is clearly poking the bear. He wants Mitchell to get angry because he's of the mindset that emotion, particularly anger, can take your game to another level. Consider that this is the same person who created a whole narrative about David Robinson refusing to give him an autograph just so he could be angry when playing the Spurs. It's also at least part of the reason he has been so shitty to Dwight Howard since 2004. Howard wanted a mentor, but Shaq demanded Howard prove he deserved respect, use that trolling to be better. That isn't who Howard is. It's kind of the same reason Shaq never talks **** about Hakeem Olajuwon. What's he going to say? Shaq may have more rings, but he never beat Olajuwon in the Finals.
My problem with Shaq here is it's almost as if he has no idea that other people can have a different approach to the game than And-It-Became-Person-To-Me® (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ss5Ndz0tn9o). Interestingly, Olajuwon is one of the old heads who gives back to the game and works out with young players (I think they pay him, but still).
Like I said, I get what he was trying to do, but he just came off rude with Mitchell. Apparently, other players like Lebron & Durant also found it a bit over the line.I wasn't disagreeing with you. I merely used the clips you posted as a jumping off point. Shaq's comments were rude. They're also silliness because he acts like there isn't another way which is demonstrably false. Tim Duncan, for example, has more rings than Shaq while being like the most soft spoken superstar in league history.
I agree with the overall sentiment that Mitchell is a bit of a one-trick pony right now, but I find the dismissive "2nd or 3rd option" comment about him to be insulting considering how many games I've seen Mitchell put this team on his back in previous years.Contextually, Shaq is referring to Mitchell being a first option on a championship team which fine, in Shaq's defense, Mitchell hasn't been. Verdict is out on this season though based on record, the Jazz are doing very well. Put Mitchell on the last few championship teams, and he wouldn't be the first option on any of them. Even on the top contenders of the last few years, he still wouldn't be the first option. Shaq wasn't necessarily wrong. Didn't have to be a dick about it though.
Plus, I'm sure Mitchell COULD have a double-double in assists or rebounds if he really wanted to.Okay, I disagree with this. Sure, Mitchell is skilled enough to lead the Jazz in assists and rebounds, but they aren't winning many games that way.
Also, I find all of this a bit rich coming from a guy who couldn't hit a shot more than 2 feet from the rim in his prime. :PI get that you're partially joking, but I don't understand your point regardless. Shots two feet from the rim are the highest percentage shots in basketball, and prime Shaq could get them at will. It sounds easy except if it was so easy, everyone would do it. Prime Shaq's footwork was amazing, and he was double/triple teamed while also often being fouled with or without the whistle. This sounds like I'm being a homer, but I should note I didn't like the Lakers until they lost to the Celtics in 2008.
Also, it really goes to show how different the NBA of the 90s was compared to today, as Joe Ingles just passed John Stockton to become the Jazz's all time leader in 3 point shots made, despite John spending an entire career with the Jazz and Joe only a few seasons.In a semi-recent interview, Steve Nash said he wished he shot more three pointers. My first thought was yeah, you and John Stockton. Then again, if Stockton shot more, he may not be the NBA all-time assist leader by something like 3,700 assists. I mean, records are made to be broken. This one seems insurmountable to me.
Holy shiz, man. The end of the Wizards vs Nets game was bananas. Did anyone see that live? I only saw a recap/highlights. I was going to put the game on then figured the Wizards were going to get murder-death-killed so instead chose to focus on reinstalling my upstairs toilet. Stupid. It’s one of the best finishes this season. I highly recommend looking it up.
And I’m indifferent to most teams which is helpful as a basketball fan because I can put on any game and not feel that pressure of rooting for one team over another, and just enjoy the game for what it is. That said, tonight, YOU HAD ONE JOB, JAZZ. Now the Clippers have the best record.
Holy shiz, man. The end of the Wizards vs Nets game was bananas. Did anyone see that live? I only saw a recap/highlights. I was going to put the game on then figured the Wizards were going to get murder-death-killed so instead chose to focus on reinstalling my upstairs toilet. Stupid. It’s one of the best finishes this season. I highly recommend looking it up.
And I’m indifferent to most teams which is helpful as a basketball fan because I can put on any game and not feel that pressure of rooting for one team over another, and just enjoy the game for what it is. That said, tonight, YOU HAD ONE JOB, JAZZ. Now the Clippers have the best record.
*shrugs* Denver always gives us problems. The 2 teams are normally equally matched, but we only just thst day got back Mitchell from concussion protocol and Favors from his back injury. I kinda already had that game pencilled as a loss. I just hope we don't lose to the Pistons tomorrow like the Lakers somehow managed to do last week. :P
We have a rough road trip ahead of us this month. I wouldn't be surprised if we took a bit of a beating in the standings, especially while Mitchell's still getting back into fighting form.
*shrugs* Denver always gives us problems. The 2 teams are normally equally matched, but we only just thst day got back Mitchell from concussion protocol and Favors from his back injury. I kinda already had that game pencilled as a loss. I just hope we don't lose to the Pistons tomorrow like the Lakers somehow managed to do last week. :PEhh, the Lakers were on a second game of a back to back, third game in four nights, and Anthony Davis was injured. I would have been more surprised if they won that game. To the Pistons credit, they’ve rattled off some impressive wins this season. They recently beat the Sixers too. It has not been a good time recently for teams I root for.
and I go tot watch it on a 20ft screen using my Oculus Quest 2.Yeah, well, I cracked my iPad screen tonight so you know, same thing.
It was GLORIOUS.
I know you’re joking. I’m merely trying to give Reggie Miller a little bit of credit for saying something mildly interesting because his basketball commentary sucks.
I like fun stats. While I’m rooting for James to eventually get the all-time scoring record, I eventually want someone to surpass him then someone else to surpass that person and so on. That’s how this should work. The positive records shouldn’t last forever.
In a semi-recent interview, Steve Nash said he wished he shot more three pointers. My first thought was yeah, you and John Stockton. Then again, if Stockton shot more, he may not be the NBA all-time assist leader by something like 3,700 assists. I mean, records are made to be broken. This one seems insurmountable to me.I guess there’s no telling what the future holds. I think eventually the steals record will be broken. Steve Nash was nowhere close. He’s currently 226 on the all-time steals list. Chris Paul, however, is seven and the highest ranking active player (LeBron James is 13). He isn’t catching Stockton, but he could have based on skill. Paul just missed too many games. I guess that’s your point. My point however is Kareem Abdul-Jabbar’s all-time scoring record seemed untouchable once upon a time (he’s held it for over 30 years). LeBron James probably takes that record in 2023 because he has the longevity and lack of injury history to do it. Some kid currently in junior high could be the guy who dethrones Stockton.
Saw this neat-o bit of trivia: Zach LaVine and Coby White are the first teammates in NBA history to each have 8+ three pointers in the same game.
Steph and Klay = frauds confirmed.
Anthony Day-to-Davis is out for the next two to three weeks with a calf strain when he’ll be reevaluated. The Lakers will undoubtedly be extra cautious given this is the same injury Kevin Durant suffered before he came back during the 2019 Finals and his Achilles exploded. It should be noted Davis doesn’t have the same leg/foot injury history as Durant.
This injury could not have come at a worse time as this is a particularly fun stretch of games, notably the Nets, Heat, Jazz, Blazers, Warriors, and Suns. I’m fine with them losing because LOL-regular-season, but man, as a basketball fan, those would presumably be better games with the Lakers at full strength. Hopefully, this lights a fire under their feet and they stop fucking around in the first half.
If it makes you feel any better, the Jazz will probably still be without Mike Conley at that point, who has been sidelined for the last 10 days or so with a similar Hamstring injury to the one that had him out most of last season. We've been very fortunate to have done as well as we have without our starting Point Guard, who had been having a Career Year.It doesn't. That makes the Jazz worse. Ideally, I want all teams to be healthy because we get better basketball. There are only so many regular season games that have a playoff-like atmosphere. The Lakers were poised to have four or five in the next two weeks.
The Warriors game was such a bad game though.I didn’t say I wanted to watch the game; I said I wanted to watch the end. The game went to overtime. That at least piques my interest.
Yeah, I’m not watching any more Lakers games until Anthony Davis comes back. These frauds gave up a 17 point lead and lost to the Wizards. LOL. I’m not staying up for this ****.
Great if they pull this off, but this is still embarrassing.
Silver really should start seeding based on record and not this East/West BS. Gotta make every win count, and not just the ones against the teams in your division. I feel like last seasons abbreviated bubble schedule would've been the perfect time to experiment with that format, but this season is good too.I do. However, it's probably never going to happen. Adam Silver doesn't make that call. It would be up to a vote by NBA governors. I believe a rule change requires an over 2/3 majority so a minimum of 21 teams. 1 to 16 seeding overwhelmingly favors the Western Conference so literally no way at least five Eastern Conference teams vote to:
Anyone here support a Top 16 seeding over a Top 8 per Division?
Who and what would the Dubs even consider trading for Porzingis that the Mavs would accept?Steph or Klay, end of list. The Warriors would never do that, and the Mavericks probably don't want Wiggins and definitely don't want Green. Wiggins and Wiseman should be a non-starter from the Warriors perspective (don't give up two young starters). Maybe the Mavs take Green if packaged with Wiseman, but do the Warriors give up Wiseman for a perennially injured Porzingis? I'm not doing that trade.
this is Brood... can I just offer an early congratulations?No, stop that. Your jinxing is not welcome here. If the best record in the league meant anything, I would have celebrated a Suns championship in 1993. I still think about that to this day (with great vengeance and furious anger). That said, if not the Lakers or Sixers this year, I have the Jazz as my dark horse if only because of Shaq's sour grapes. It's as if he woke up one day and decided to come at Gobert AND Mitchell. Why? These old heads and their back-in-my-day BS. willyoushutupman.gif
(no jinx intended... no wood to knock on ;))
edit: and I meant to comment on this clip earlier in the week...I was going to comment on this as well, but I figured no one cared. Yikes. What even happened here? This is where the modern NBA's love affair with the three pointer shows its warts. Three Nuggets players on the weak side and not a single one of them thought about driving to the basket. 2.9 seconds was plenty of time to get a dunk there.
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how the Pacers just gonna hand the win to the Wiz like this!?
no even one of them cut to an unguarded wide open basket for an easy 2 to tie the game and take it to OT on their home court? Just had to lose the game going for the win from 3 even though that was also unguarded too?
and have ya'll seen this monster? 7'9" and likely dunking without jumping.....Wait until his knees give out? 🤷♀️ You can tell he was significantly out of shape with the chest jiggling under his shirt (I don't mean that as an insult). He slouches badly so his back is probably not in great condition. If he doesn't have Shaq's footwork, he's probably really easy to take out of plays.
whip dude into shape and what you supposed to do against this guy?
Warriors v Laker tonight gonna be good though.Is it though?
as for the Dubs v Lakers, I meant it should be a good game to watch as a Warrior fan.Look, I get what you're saying, but this is ugly fandom. Put another way "I'm hoping this human being stays injured because he plays for a different sportsball team than the one I arbitrarily like." I can't get down with that line of thinking.
I'm really hoping Curry put on a Lakeshow by soaking the whole place in 3's. If we can get this one, then I'm hoping AD is out for the next still as well and we can sweep them in the season series.
also, maybe we should talk about the Jeremy Lin statement...Yeah... it certainly didn't help when the leader of the free world emboldened people's worst impulses and called it the "China virus" and "kung flu". There's so much going on in the world that the racism and violence against Asians and Asian Americans is getting overlooked.
talking **** is part of the game, but blatantly racist remarks don't need to be.In a league that's predominantly black, there's a really easy way for non-black players like Lin to talk **** and get into a black opponent's head. No one would be okay with that. There's no place for bigotry no matter who is saying it yet a lot of people don't understand that unless they personally experience it. If bigotry is wrong, then it's always wrong, and it isn't just a problem when it happens to you.
Hopefully whoever said that got slapped w/ a hefty fine and a suspension, assuming the league was even aware of it. But I'm glad Lin wasn't too afraid to speak up on it in the first place.The last I read about this, the G-League was investigating it, but Lin won't name the person who said it to him. The G-League can probably narrow down the team, but without more evidence, I feel like that's where this ends. I guess good on Lin for not outing his insensitive opponent and probably ending the other player's entire career. Lin made his millions; the dude who said it to him is a G-League player who get paid in Snack Packs.
I do hope, though, that the Finals come down to 2 Small Market teams that haven't won a championship before, just for a change and to issue a giant middle finger to the NBA head office and general professional NBA punditry.Just out of curiosity, say the Jazz win a championship, how would you going to reconcile this moving forward? Root for the Jazz or a team that hasn't won a title?
I do hope, though, that the Finals come down to 2 Small Market teams that haven't won a championship before, just for a change and to issue a giant middle finger to the NBA head office and general professional NBA punditry.Just out of curiosity, say the Jazz win a championship, how would you going to reconcile this moving forward? Root for the Jazz or a team that hasn't won a title?
And people thought the Warriors adding 1 player to the roster was forming a "Super Team" :rolleyes:Come on, man.
it's about HOW they were formed, not how good they became together. don't be obtuse.How is that obtuse? A "super team" is just a team loaded with elite talent. It doesn't matter how they get there. It's so weird how nonchalant you are about a 73-win team adding a generational talent in his prime when they already had a generational talent in his prime on top of a top 15 player and arguably the best defender in the league. There's nothing wrong with the Warriors adding Durant. They did so fair and square, but call a spade a spade. The Warriors were a team full of talent that then added literally one of the best players in league history at the height of his powers. That's the very definition of a super team, and if you're trying to claim otherwise including downplaying the addition of "1 player":
I didn't say the Warriors weren't a "super team", I said they added 1 player to create this "super team". They evolved from somewhat known players mostly drafted to the team to eventually become super talents over time. They didn't get pulled on to the Warriors because they were already known talents. Durant was added to put them over the top.1. "And people thought the Warriors adding 1 player to the roster was forming a "Super Team" :rolleyes:" certainly sounded like you were saying the Warriors weren't a super team, but I'll take your word for it.
LaMarcus may not be in his prime anymore either, but being able to have quality vets on the squad of Durant, Kyrie and Harden can be as helpful as Warriors having an Iggy on his down slope. Maybe serving a different purpose with a different focus, but helpful none the less.Again, sure, Griffin and Aldridge are useful. However, I don't think they're huge difference makers, certainly no where near what Iguodala was to the dynasty Warriors. Dude won Finals MVP almost entirely for his defense on LeBron James. Griffin and Aldridge don't offer much on that end of the floor besides rebounding. Yeah, rebounding is important, but if Giannis is spinning baseline and dunking all over Griffin and/or Aldridge because he's younger, faster, and stronger, that rebounding is far less valuable.
So Wiggins is getting cut by the Warriors, right?
Also, Damian Lee is getting cut and will be uninvited from future Curry family barbecues.
Per Shams Charania, Golden State Warriors rookie James Wiseman has suffered a torn meniscus in his right knee, sources tell @TheAthletic (https://twitter.com/ShamsCharania/status/1381320293097074692?s=20)
Cursed season is cursed.
With LMA if the Nets happen to win the chip I am sure he will get a ring still. But yes health first and have a happy retirement.
2 weeks. and I don't know if he would but Troy Daniels was a Nugget after being waived and being part of theLakers, Boogie got his and not even playing a minute and even Avery Bradley got one even though he wasn't in the bubble.With LMA if the Nets happen to win the chip I am sure he will get a ring still. But yes health first and have a happy retirement.
He may have retired a "Net", but he was literally on the team for what? a week? maybe 2?
Would he even accept a ring in that situation?
Maybe, just maybe this will finally convince this team to stop relying on last minute heroics from Mitchell to bail them out of sloppy games.(https://i.ibb.co/MBDMZt9/2-BC8-CE41-EFCC-4139-BC96-EBCC41-E90010.jpg)
I’m curious why there’s even a basketball game in the middle of the afternoon on a Friday. Is that normal in Utah?Maybe, just maybe this will finally convince this team to stop relying on last minute heroics from Mitchell to bail them out of sloppy games.(https://i.ibb.co/MBDMZt9/2-BC8-CE41-EFCC-4139-BC96-EBCC41-E90010.jpg)
I'm pretty sure this is a makeup game from earlier in the year, just like the Washington game we just played. It's not usual, so just chock that up to the arbitrary needs of this bizarre season.Okay, that makes sense. The game was probably scheduled early because the Jazz play the Lakers pretty early tomorrow in Los Angeles. If they played a late game today then an early game tomorrow, their legs would be dead. Hey, maybe the Lakers will put up a decent fight tomorrow.
Well, while we're waiting to find out just how thoroughly the Jazz are fucked, Dwyane Wade bought part ownership of the team. I'm really not sure how to feel about this considering the main reason Gail Miller sold her share of the team to the current (now-part owner) owner of the team was that he would guarantee that the Jazz would stay in Utah. With Wade as part of ownership, I'm not so sure how guaranteed that is. Of course, he could have just 1% ownership for all we know. It wasn't stated how big his purchase was.My understanding of Jazz owner, Ryan Smith, is that he eats, breathes, and sleeps Utah. Dude went to college at Brigham Young University and his business is based in Utah. He was a huge Jazz fan before he owned the team, and he practically begged Gail Miller to sell the team to him if she ever wanted to sell. That said, I doubt the Jazz are going anywhere.
NBA fines San Antonio Spurs $25,000 for violating resting rules (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31283853/nba-fines-san-antonio-spurs-25000-violating-resting-rules)
This is silly on a few counts.Letter of the law, fine. However, the league is also not consistent when applying this rule. I always disagreed with the resting rules. Lose a player for a game/a few games, or lose him for half a season/an entire season/even his career. Take your pick.
- In a season where everyone and their mother is getting injured, maybe there should be some leeway when it comes to resting players.
- DeRozan is on a contract year. If he gets a catastrophic injury, no way he gets the amount of money he’s looking to get paid, and this probably his last chance at a decent contract.
- The Spurs still beat the Suns, the team with the second best record, by 26 points.
No team rests players because they want to lose games. They rest players because they want to win more games later.
In other news, Kevin Durant left the game against the Heat today in the first quarter with a thigh contusion. (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31284758/brooklyn-nets-star-kevin-durant-suffers-thigh-injury-1st-quarter-vs-miami-heat)
And if I remember right, it's only a fine because they did the resting on the road, right?Yes, I believe so. I guess the thinking is that home fans only see opposing teams once or twice a year.
So...if the NBA wants to start fining teams for faking injuries to rest their players, how about fining the Nets for the stunts they've been pulling with Irving and Harden?Is it faking injuries if teams are admitting it's rest/load management? Also, it's weird that you called out the Nets considering the Jazz literally load managed yesterday which absolutely cost them the game. And it was a road game so they absolutely should be fined per the rules.
Is it faking injuries if teams are admitting it's rest/load management? Also, it's weird that you called out the Nets considering the Jazz literally load managed yesterday which absolutely cost them the game. And it was a road game so they absolutely should be fined per the rules.
1. To answer your question, no. It isn't faking injuries if the teams admit it's resting/load management.Then maybe stop calling it faking injuries.
2. It's weird that you think calling me out on the Jazz using it is a gotcha. I don't remember ever saying I approved of players not showing up to do their jobs, and you and I have bickered about the use of load management for years. I've been very consistent about not liking it.Not meant as a gotcha. Just checking if you're being consistent particularly because the Jazz just load managed yesterday. You have a habit of being selective over what you're mad about.
3. However, since you seem to want me to defend the Jazz using it lately, I will:"Faking injuries" are your words, not mine.
- Favors isn't faking an injury. He really does have a bad back as a result of an injury he suffered last year with the Pelicans that had him out most of the season. His back has never been the same since.
- Conley also isn't faking an injury. He injured his hamstring earlier this season just like he did last season. Management, as a result, is very wary about re-aggravating that hamstring again since he's already proven twice vulnerable to it.
- I'm not sure if Gobert is just a rest case or not, since it's unclear when he got his "right knee contusion" they cited for the Lakers game. From everything I've been able to gather, it sounds legit since Gobert has actually been remarkably consistent in playing this year.
4. Even with the Jazz using "injury recovery"/ "load management" this season, they've only used it for the occasional player a handful of times this season, and there's been a recent injury to back that up. That's nothing compared to the other teams in the league, in particular the Nets. I don't think the Clippers have even used it as much as the Nets have with Irving and Harden since acquiring them. I don't for a moment believe that Harden's actually injured, especially with the way he closed out his tenure in Houston.Does it really matter if a team uses it a little or a lot? Your problem seems to be that teams are even using it at all.
5. Yes, fine everyone if that's the rule. If we're going to have a rule against load management, it should be applied equally to everyone. Otherwise, that just lends credence to conspiracy theories that the League plays favorites, which it absolutely does and always has.I agree, and that was what I was getting at. I don't like the rule, but if it's going to be one, let it be one.
If Curry (and Dray) can drag this team to a playoff position, MVP better be in play.Settle down.
If Curry (and Dray) can drag this team to a playoff position, MVP better be in play.Settle down.
I mean Steph is pretty amazing on what he is doing this season. Just putting the team on his back and just winning. Fighting into the play in tourney and winning versus what many consider the MVP in Jokic tonight.
LOL. These f-ing clown shoes lost another season series to a bottom feeding lottery team. They really want to be in the play in tournament. **** around and find out, guys.
I don’t think the Lakers are making the playoffs this year. LeBron reaggravated his ankle injury and is out tonight against the Nuggets tonight because of course that would happen. Dennis Schröder is out for 10 to 14 days on health and safety protocols which is most covers most of the remaining games. Yeah, I don’t know how much basketball I’ll watch for the rest of this year. GG, guys. See you all next season.
THANKS AGAIN, SOLOMON HILL.
So I didn’t watch the Lakers game, but these inexplicable weirdos lose to the m-f-ing Kings then beat the best team since the All-Star break.
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The Lakers also gave up a 13 point lead in the fourth quarter so not an absolutely win, but I’ll take it.
Just imagine Lebron not even making the Playoffs!!!!That literally happened two years ago. 🤷♀️
I'm mixed on the whole play-in tournament system, myself. It feels like it's only there to appease the Western Conference teams, which are the only ones good enough every year where Seeds 9 & 10 could potentially belong in the playoffs and still be worthy opponents for the 1 & 2 seeds.That's a good point. For discussion's sake, what would you suggest?
As for the Warriors, we ain't winning **** this year, but it would be nice for these boys to get some Playoff experienceObviously, I want the Lakers in and NOT playing the Jazz in the first round so of the remaining teams, I think Warriors vs. Jazz would yield the best series.
I could see them making some tweaks where the play in happens if 9 and/or 10 seed have a record of close to .450 or higher. But for now, I'm enjoying the drama this all brings.Yeah, I like the drama. The idea needs to be tweaked. I don't know why the 7th seed is involved.
I'm mixed on the whole play-in tournament system, myself. It feels like it's only there to appease the Western Conference teams, which are the only ones good enough every year where Seeds 9 & 10 could potentially belong in the playoffs and still be worthy opponents for the 1 & 2 seeds.That's a good point. For discussion's sake, what would you suggest?
I came up with a couple then talked myself out of each one. For example, only have play in games for the final spot under certain circumstances.
- If 9 is within one game of 8 and/or won the season series, have a play in series. I think 8 should still get something. Maybe 8 has to win one game and 9 has to win two in a row so not really a tournament.
- If 8 to 10 are within one game (and/or each lower seed won the season series against the seed above it), 8 plays the winner of 9 and 10.
What you suggested sounds decent enough. I just feel like the Play-in Tournament is a bandaid on the overall problem that only 4-6 teams in the East max deserve to be in the playoffs, whereas 8-10 in the West routinely have the records to deserve inclusion. We've already addressed that the Eastern Conference will never agree to a Top 16 team Playoff format, so I suppose this is the best compromise we can get.Since the league can’t just say, “LOL, play in games for the Western Conference only”, it was the best I could come up with to hide it.
One thing I'd like to address with the Playoffs is the overall bracketing. I've never been a fan of the 1-8, 2-7, 3-6, 4-5 first round bracketing. It's designed to allow the Top Seed to basically coast its way through the playoffs. They get to beat up on the worst team in the playoffs 1st, and then AT WORST they face the #4 seed in the 2nd round.This one is a bit harder to crack because as you stated, it’s by design. Top teams are “rewarded” with an easier path because they were consistently good all year. I haven’t thought about this long enough to offer a real suggestion. Re-bracketing kind of invalidates the regular season.
I'd also go back to the 1st round being 5 games rather than 7. Especially with how injury-prone players are these days, 7 games in the easiest round is excessive. It also means teams have more energy for the 2nd and 3rd rounds, particularly in the West. That will never happen, of course, because the League likes money.I go back and forth on this one. Many of these series are hella boring though we get the occasional gem. Jazz vs. Nuggets was stupid good last year. It came down to the last shot in a Game 7. Mitchell and Murray were just throwing down 50 point games. Is that one series worth the slew of sweeps/gentleman sweeps? Personally, I might give you a different answer depending on which day you ask me.
Now I wish I posted the long post I typed out last night about play in options and how the points or how baf the East actually is.... But I got distracted and came back to finish it after the thought had passed, and couldn't articulate the point I was trying to make it so I just deleted it. :/Try again?
Steph Curry quadruple teamed. The Suns lost this game.
(https://i.ibb.co/B35Xj4H/B687-C805-58-EC-4-AD3-976-F-0-EDF2-F0-FBE81.jpg)
8th Seed BabyCongrats you are either facing a healthy Lakers team or a revamped Trail Blazers team who has a bit more defense.
Steph with 46pts and the scoring title
Now we wait to see if Lakers stay in the 7th seed or not.
If the league is going to call the award “Most Valuable Player”, “most valuable” really should be more clearly defined. What is a particular player’s inherent value to a team’s success from a basketball perspective? Is the team still a functional professional basketball team without that particular player? A team’s overall performance should be weighed against a team’s performance without that particular player which can still be quantified (i.e. missed games, team’s +/- when that player is on the bench).
This is embarrassing. I don’t even care if the Lakers come back. If y’all going to futz around for an entire half, I’m going to bed. I have an early meeting in the morning.
Well, they did…LOL. I couldn’t sleep so I caught most of the fourth quarter. This is the basketball I want to see.
The Wizards blew out the Pacers. Sheesh. The league tripped upward into one good play in game. They need to reevaluate the structure.
I hope Sixers vs. Wizards is a good series.
A couple of surprises on here. First, I thought they'd already given Coach of the Year to Monty Williams, so I'm a little confused. I guess there's more than one Coach of the Year award.The Coach's voted for Williams already. These finalists are voted by the media.
It’s ridiculous that Jerry Sloan never won Coach of the Year. I’m too lazy to check if the coaches ever acknowledged Sloan with their vote. As for Quin Snyder, this would be the year to win it. The Jazz have gotten incrementally better over the last few years so that weirdly works against him. It shouldn’t, but it does. He isn’t getting the credit he deserves for just how well coached the Jazz have been, particularly this season. The Suns have missed the playoffs for like 12 or 13 years. They didn’t even merely sneak into the play in games. The dramatic turnaround puts Monty Williams over.
While Rudy Gobert is a perennially excellent defender, he has an exploitable weakness (defending on the perimeter), particularly against guards with bonkers handles (https://youtu.be/UZOCU2ZzhwE). The effort is there; he just doesn’t have the quickness/lateral moment to keep up. I’m also docking points from Gobert. WTF was this, man? (https://youtu.be/mByBJzcuoZ0)
While Rudy Gobert is a perennially excellent defender, he has an exploitable weakness (defending on the perimeter), particularly against guards with bonkers handles (https://youtu.be/UZOCU2ZzhwE). The effort is there; he just doesn’t have the quickness/lateral moment to keep up. I’m also docking points from Gobert. WTF was this, man? (https://youtu.be/mByBJzcuoZ0)
1. Any team can lose one. This is exactly why I wanted the Lakers to have no part in the second play in game.
2. I get the excitement, but the prize is still a little weird. “YES! Onward to the playoffs! We get to play the Jazz……… OH NO!”
1. Any team can lose one. This is exactly why I wanted the Lakers to have no part in the second play in game.
2. I get the excitement, but the prize is still a little weird. “YES! Onward to the playoffs! We get to play the Jazz……… OH NO!”
While the Nets crushed the Celtics tonight following James Harden's miraculous (and some would say "convenient") return fromresting all season by faking aninjury, I found this article on good ol' King James.
It seems that the NBA's current favorite son violated the League's Health & Safety Protocols, a violation that will apparently result in no punishment whatsoever from the League because he's Lebron James.
https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/charles-barkley-on-lebron-james-violating-nba-protocols-league-doesnt-have-the-guts-to-suspend-him/ (https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/charles-barkley-on-lebron-james-violating-nba-protocols-league-doesnt-have-the-guts-to-suspend-him/)
The tequila was poured at a brief outdoor photo shoot, and invitees, including recording artist Drake and actor Michael B. Jordan, had to produce proof of vaccination or a recent negative test result in order to attend.If it weren’t for the fact that it’s verified and corroborated that James couldn’t even attend the event if he didn’t produce proof of vaccination or a recent negative test result, perhaps he would have had to miss time. I guess it also helps that the event was outside.
I’m fine with the Lakers losing. I just don’t want to listen to Mark Jackson while it happens.
His commentary is like “When the ball goes in the basket, the player who shot is credited the points. Mama, there goes that man.”
Can some team please hire this man as coach?
UGH...absolutely pathetic showing from the Jazz tonight. Just no offensive playmaking whatsoever. I can't believe they had Mitchell sit this game out. Clearly, he can't sit this series out going forward.
UGH...absolutely pathetic showing from the Jazz tonight. Just no offensive playmaking whatsoever. I can't believe they had Mitchell sit this game out. Clearly, he can't sit this series out going forward.
If a couple more days will have him at 100%, why not let him sit... it's a 7 game series.
Losing the home court advantage isn't the end of the world. Especially if you win the next 2-3 and take it back.
When the Warriors lost, I saw people suggesting the series be on TruTV or another "off" network.(https://i.ibb.co/N7xmpDn/99-B9-C6-C7-3-FC4-4-D53-8-C04-2-F4-BDADB8-CDA.gif)
I will tell you this: Donovan's relationship with the organization was damaged this week. Is it damaged to the point where it can't be repaired? I'm not saying that. Is it something that they'll get past and he'll just move on and it will just be a blip on the radar screen? Maybe. Maybe they're in The Finals in two months and who cares? Maybe they win the next four games and it's totally forgotten. But right now, Donovan is hurting. He's really hurting the way this happened.
Donovan Mitchell is miraculously healed and will play tonight. Team training staff often have to save the players from themselves. Of course, they want to play because they do this for a living. There can be dire consequences when you let a player dictate their return (e.g. Kevin Durant in the 2019 Finals). That may or may not have been the case here. The Jazz just signed this guy to a five year extension last off-season that hasn’t kicked in yet, and they clearly thought they could steal one while sitting their star for another game. I mean, they almost did.
Mitchell’s relationship with the Jazz has apparently been damaged. Per ESPN’s Brian Windhorst:QuoteI will tell you this: Donovan's relationship with the organization was damaged this week. Is it damaged to the point where it can't be repaired? I'm not saying that. Is it something that they'll get past and he'll just move on and it will just be a blip on the radar screen? Maybe. Maybe they're in The Finals in two months and who cares? Maybe they win the next four games and it's totally forgotten. But right now, Donovan is hurting. He's really hurting the way this happened.
This can only mean one thing:
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EDIT: That podcast is an hour and 46 minutes?! Are there like 45 minutes of ads? Do they perform the H.M.S. Pinafore right in the middle there? I normally don’t listen to Lakers’ podcast over an hour. I’ll start it; no promises on listening to the whole thing. I don’t commute to work right now which was my prime podcast time.
The Lakers decided to play basketball again in the last few minutes to snag the win after pooping away a 15 point lead. The important thing is they took home court advantage. LeBron managed to hit another LeFuckYou3. MV-Payne showed up for the Suns.
For the love of all that is good, please don’t make me listen to Mark Jackson or Reggie Miller again in this series.
I can deal with Kevin Harlan. I’m usually too distracted by whoever TNT paired with him. Nationally, Mike Breen and Doris Burke are pretty good. Most former players are not good color commentators which is baffling because they spent years playing the game at a professional level. Tell me about the defensive set or something. Why is their commentary so shallow and obvious?
Anyway, Mavericks are up 2-0. I only got to watch the last five minutes or so because I was obviously watching a different game. I switched over, and the Mavericks immediately gave up an 8-0 run. LAFFO. What’s the over/under on Kawhi Leonard joining the Heat or Knicks in free agency if the Clippers drop this series?
I can deal with Kevin Harlan. I’m usually too distracted by whoever TNT paired with him. Nationally, Mike Breen and Doris Burke are pretty good. Most former players are not good color commentators which is baffling because they spent years playing the game at a professional level. Tell me about the defensive set or something. Why is their commentary so shallow and obvious?
I worked the better part of 2 years in Sports video games. It's both praise to the game experience & damning to the live experience that the Commentary sounds exactly as cut & paste and phoned-in across both experiences.
Who thinks he would've bodied that dude had there not been 5 guys around him to hold him back?Nah. Westbrook would have yelled at the Sixers “fan”, but I think he’s smart enough not to go into the stands and lay a hand on him. He would get suspended for a literal season, and he’s on a max contract. Westbrook has a temper, but I’m not sure it’s bad enough to jeopardize $44 million. There was that one time in Denver (?) when a fan got on the court after the end of the game, got in Westbrook’s face, and Brodie pushed the fan aside. I don’t remember if Westbrook got any discipline action for that. He shouldn’t have; security is supposed to protect the players, right?
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Apparently, Davis has a groins strain. That’s a wrap, fellas.
What's up with NBA fans in the arena this season?
Someone dumped popcorn on Westbrooks head
another spit at Trey Young
yesterday one threw a water bottle at Kyrie
and today, some idiot was on the court during the game, and got tackled
https://twitter.com/WorldWideWob/status/1399532320277868549?s=20
https://twitter.com/Jeromice12/status/1399530994626142210?s=20
But seeing how Embiid is out for the game.... who sees the Wizards still getting swept here?
You would think he would want to leave after forcing overtime twice only for his teammates to score like once in the extra periods?This is what players get for their loyalty. What have the Blazers front office done to get Lillard the help he needs?
For the life of me, I don't understand how Blazers-Nuggets wasn't carried by ANY major network. It's a Playoff game. I don't care that it features 2 unpopular teams. I'd rather have watched that Double OT Thriller over watching the Suns absolutely paste the rotting corpse of the Lakers.My guess: this is due to advertising contracts. Companies pay for commercial spots for specific games/series in the playoffs. No one knows a game is a blowout until it's a blowout, but advertisers are still owed their time.
Well, now that the Sixers, Hawks, Jazz and Nets have all completed their gentleman's sweeps, how do we see the rest of round one turning out?
Dame turned out one helluva (wasted) performance on Tuesday night.
Lebron ain't carrying the same Lakers that played Tuesday anywhere but to the nearest dumpster (aka trading block).
Mavs v Clippers really could go either way depending on which way the wind is blowing... Or the shots are falling...
Wouldn't be surprised to see a Gm7 between Clips and Mavs, and the Blazers v Nuggets.
Personally I think the Lakers are just done. Pressure too much for Kuz and the Tradeables.
I could go either way with the Mavericks/Clippers. Regardless of what happens, Luka Dončić exposed the Clippers, straight up turned them into nephews. They can’t contain one guy?! Even if the Clippers crawl out of this series, they’d get f-ing draaaaaaaaaagged by the Jazz. That said, if I was the Jazz, I wouldn’t want any of Playoff Luka’s smoke (I’d still pick the Jazz to win). I’d rather face the team that is the collective embodiment of the shrug emoji right now.
Who's idea was it for AD to play with a groin strain 2-3 days later?1. Anthony Davis. The medical staff cleared him, stating he couldn’t make it worse.
Is he looking for a more serious injury just because the season is on the line?
One more thing. Enjoy this Tweet (https://twitter.com/ballfade_/status/1400663065151131648).
Now we just need the Mavs to finish the Clips, and we will be on to our lowest rated playoff in probably the last decade. Adam Silver must be sweating 🤣🤣🤣I feel like I’m missing the joke here. Why do we want low ratings/why does this matter? Did Adam Silver take someone’s mother out for a nice seafood dinner and never called her again? There are very specific reasons I’ll root against a team that normally do not carry over from season to season (e.g. Cavs 2015-2018 because #fuckDanGilbert), but the league itself? As professional basketball fans, shouldn’t we want the league to thrive?
Now we just need the Mavs to finish the Clips, and we will be on to our lowest rated playoff in probably the last decade. Adam Silver must be sweating 🤣🤣🤣I feel like I’m missing the joke here. Why do we want low ratings/why does this matter? Did Adam Silver take someone’s mother out for a nice seafood dinner and never called her again? There are very specific reasons I’ll root against a team that normally do not carry over from season to season (e.g. Cavs 2015-2018 because #fuckDanGilbert), but the league itself? As professional basketball fans, shouldn’t we want the league to thrive?
We all have our teams we arbitrarily follow, but none of us have any real stakes in those teams, right? We don’t own stock or anything. Personally, I don’t care that much who’s in the Finals. For the season, they’re the best two teams so that’s the basketball I’m going to watch.
The League historically does not support small market teams, making it harder for us to acquire AND keep big name talent and to get national exposure on TV. This isn't specific to Silver. It's been an issue since at least the Jordan years.Okay, but how? Every team is under the same CBA rules. And I’ll have to look up specifics, but I believe most new CBAs introduce more rules that help small market teams such as the more punitive tiered luxury tax (used to be $1 to $1), the supermax etc.
Owning a professional sports team is a privilege, and if you’re going to run it poorly, maybe you shouldn’t own one.I look at new Jazz owner, Ryan Smith. He certainly sounds like he’s going to do whatever it takes to keep the team competitive. That’s what talent wants to see. That’s what will keep them in those markets in many cases. In others, sometimes the players just want to play for their hometown (e.g. Kawhi).
The League historically does not support small market teams, making it harder for us to acquire AND keep big name talent and to get national exposure on TV. This isn't specific to Silver. It's been an issue since at least the Jordan years.Okay, but how? Every team is under the same CBA rules. And I’ll have to look up specifics, but I believe most new CBAs introduce more rules that help small market teams such as the more punitive tiered luxury tax (used to be $1 to $1), the supermax etc.
Now we just need the Mavs to finish the Clips, and we will be on to our lowest rated playoff in probably the last decade. Adam Silver must be sweating 🤣🤣🤣I feel like I’m missing the joke here. Why do we want low ratings/why does this matter? Did Adam Silver take someone’s mother out for a nice seafood dinner and never called her again?
I was just coming in here to say that the Clips are taking it back to LA to lose infront of the home crowd.
Neither of these teams go the distance. It's not even a matchup thing as some would expect, I just think neither team has that killer instinct to get it done.
I was just coming in here to say that the Clips are taking it back to LA to lose infront of the home crowd.
Neither of these teams go the distance. It's not even a matchup thing as some would expect, I just think neither team has that killer instinct to get it done.
What home crowd in LA? From what I saw in Game 5, the Clippers have so few fans that they had to place cardboard cutouts in the Staples Center stands to make the Clippers feel better. ;)
(Yes, I know why those are actually there, but I find it amusing that those cutouts weren't in the stands in last night's Lakers game)
It's not just an NBA thing, if you look at the national broadcast schedule in every sports league there's usually a handful of teams that show up way more often than the rest. The networks think certain teams get more viewership, so they prioritize those, even though that can kind of become sort of a self-fulfilling prophecy.
Bucks v Nets Game 1 (today at 4:30 - in 3.5 hrs)
PLACE YOUR BETS!!!
Bucks v Nets Series Winner (and in how many games?)
PLACE YOUR BETS!!!
I'm a firm believer in the NBA Draft being rigged, and I think both times New Orleans got the #1 pick, there was a concerted effort to get a star to New Orleans to keep a team there for reasons.I respectfully disagree. The drawing process of the lottery machine with the ping pong balls in the NBA draft is very transparent. Last year notwithstanding due to the pandemic, league officials, representatives from each team, several members of the media, and members of accounting firm Ernst and Young are physically in attendance for the drawing. To believe the draft is rigged, you'd also have to believe every single person in that room is in on this conspiracy. That doesn't track for several reasons. First and foremost, why would any team agree to give up the top pick to another team?
I think the NBA might have more leverage in TV negotiations than you give them credit for, and it's possible they're just not pushing to have certain matchups on prime time TV the way the could.In what way? The league partners with the networks but doesn't have any authority over what the networks broadcast that isn't included in contracts. Also, those contracts are reviewed/approved by the teams themselves. There are likely stipulations on the kinds of advertisements the NBA allows networks to accept. That's neutral enough to not ruffle any feathers with team Governors. However, Adam Silver can't simply write in a stipulation to show more Timberwolves games without 29 other teams independently yelling "WTF is this, man?"
The basic problem with the current CBA is that it strongly empowers players to the extent that it's very difficult for small market teams to pay high talent players while keeping the rest of the team competitive in regards to the salary cap. Players can also just refuse to play and demand trades to big market teams now, as was recently the case with Anthony Davis and James Harden.Okay, but you're aware that the team Governors have to sign off on the CBA, right? Again, 21 is the magic number, and there are more small/mid market teams than large market teams. New rules that help small market teams are introduced by, surprise, small market teams primarily as well as the Commissioner whose job it is to help them. Fans of struggling small market teams want to pass the buck on the league, but keep in mind, the league has very little authority and teams must approve everything. How is "the basic problem with the current CBA" anybody's fault but small market teams who have accepted the terms of the CBA in writing?
As for the Supermax contracts...they may have been intended to help small market teams, but they certainly have their issues.Again, teams voted and signed off on this. That was their idea so back to the drawing board, I guess.
The league does not promote small market teams. Hell, it seems to barely even acknowledge them at times, as seen in this year's playoffs where the league had every team on TNT & ESPN for the first few games, and then small market teams got pushed onto NBA TV. There is an active push in the media for big name players on small market teams to abandon them for big market teams (especially so-called "Super Teams" like the current Nets), and the league does nothing to push against that or to prevent trades that will severely unbalance the league.I don't think you understand how this works. I covered this above so I don't want to repeat myself.
as for the low rating joke and Adam Silver... I think it was covered sufficiently already, but the league thrives on the TV contracts, and if the only team left (after tonight) that gets a national tv buy for regular ass games is the Nets, then the networks may be nervous about getting their money back in viewership which may affect the next round of negotiations... therefore Adam Silver must be sweating knowing that the golden ticket Lakers are out in the first round.... the Warriors got Play'd-out in the Play-in (as I'm sure wasn't expected*), the Knicks blipped into the wrong reality for a brief moment (and then snapped back out), the Clips about to join the Lakergirls in having no one to root for this off-season, and all that's left are the Nets.Alright, so I didn't get the joke because the above overstates a lot of things and no offense, isn't entirely true. Adam Silver does care about ratings, revenue etc. because he's chief executive of the NBA. Is he sweating if small market teams make it to the NBA Finals? I can't imagine he is even a little bit.
I'm a firm believer in the NBA Draft being rigged, and I think both times New Orleans got the #1 pick, there was a concerted effort to get a star to New Orleans to keep a team there for reasons.I respectfully disagree. The drawing process of the lottery machine with the ping pong balls in the NBA draft is very transparent. Last year notwithstanding due to the pandemic, league officials, representatives from each team, several members of the media, and members of accounting firm Ernst and Young are physically in attendance for the drawing. To believe the draft is rigged, you'd also have to believe every single person in that room is in on this conspiracy. That doesn't track for several reasons. First and foremost, why would any team agree to give up the top pick to another team?
No offense, but this is next level tin foil hatting.
The NBA isn't a charity. Teams are in direct competition with each other all the time. The Knicks were licking their lips over the prospect of drafting Zion Williamson for a year, and you think they'd quietly hand over the pick to the Pelicans? Come on, man. If anything, what would have been "best for the league" at least from a ratings and revenue perspective would be for Williamson to be the face of the Knicks.
The drawing is private, but there are witnesses who have no stake in who wins the lottery. Also, do you want that televised? I guess it could replace the dais. I don't even watch that; I just wait for the list afterward. Personally, I don't think the actual lottery procedure would make for compelling television.
I'm not familiar with the 76ers thing. Magic Johnson was not employed by the Lakers during the three years they drafted second thus him promising a top three pick carries no weight and likely has more to do with the fact that the Lakers were a dumpster fire during those years. Also, have you ever looked at Johnson's Twitter? It's a mess. One would think he's shitposting except he's completely serious. A few pages back, I was complaining about Mark Jackson's commentary. Magic Johnson's feed is that in Tweet form.
Looks likeJames HardenMike Conley faked another hamstring injury and has been ruled out forthe rest of the gameGame 1. What a lazy **** for load managing in the middle of the playoffs.
Utah Jazz rule PG Mike Conley out for Game 1 vs. LA Clippers with hamstring strain (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31590931/utah-jazz-rule-pg-mike-conley-game-1-vs-la-clippers-hamstring-strain)
(https://i.ibb.co/vxGQfFV/63320-AD8-9727-4-A6-C-8200-3-F42655631-F2.gif)Looks likeJames HardenMike Conley faked another hamstring injury and has been ruled out forthe rest of the gameGame 1. What a lazy **** for load managing in the middle of the playoffs.
I saw the final play of Jazz vs. Clippers on The YouTube. Woof. Why the heck would they pass to the corner? Y’all are going to force Marcus Morris to be the hero and facilitated that by *checks notes* trapping him between Rudy Gobert, the last person you want defending the ball in this situation, and the baseline? Gobert’s deficiency at guarding on the perimeter is nullified by the fact that the Clippers need a three-pointer to tie (and Morris isn’t quick anyway). He just needed to be tall out there and pressure the ball. Not that I’m upset with the result; it’s just a little baffling. Morris should have passed it back out as I’d rather have Leonard shoot over Ingles. I guess in the heat of the moment, he felt there wasn’t enough time (there was).
The Jazz's season is over. Even if we did somehow get past the Clippers with as terribly as this team has played, we'd get swept by the Suns with the way THEY are playing.Sources: LA Clippers' Kawhi Leonard could miss rest of series with knee injury (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31644076/sources-la-clippers-kawhi-leonard-miss-rest-series-knee-injury) (Expected to miss Game 5)
Time to blow up the team and rebuild around Donovan and a few key pieces. The bare minimum this year was getting to the Finals, and they're falling apart in the Semis.I was going to tell you to settle down the other night (frustrating loss, I get it). If the Jazz can't get past the Clippers without Leonard and the Suns without Paul, banned from the league until they get their act together.
The Jazz's season is over. Even if we did somehow get past the Clippers with as terribly as this team has played, we'd get swept by the Suns with the way THEY are playing.Sources: LA Clippers' Kawhi Leonard could miss rest of series with knee injury (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31644076/sources-la-clippers-kawhi-leonard-miss-rest-series-knee-injury) (Expected to miss Game 5)
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Phoenix Suns' Chris Paul out indefinitely, placed in NBA health and safety protocols (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/31644110/phoenix-suns-chris-paul-indefinitely-placed-nba-health-safety-protocols)
(https://i.imgur.com/SC7bALf.gif)QuoteTime to blow up the team and rebuild around Donovan and a few key pieces. The bare minimum this year was getting to the Finals, and they're falling apart in the Semis.I was going to tell you to settle down the other night (frustrating loss, I get it). If the Jazz can't get past the Clippers without Leonard and the Suns without Paul, banned from the league until they get their act together.
Semi-related: I know I'm on an island on this, and it doesn't bother others as much as it bothers me. If the Jazz advance, I really don't want to hear any if-Kawhi-Leonard-didn't-injure-his-knee-the-Clippers-would-have-won nonsense. Mike Conley will probably miss the entire series. Donovan Mitchell came back from injury in the first round then re-aggravated it in Game 3 of this round. Every team deals with injuries. Suck it up.
So, is it assumed Chris Paul tested positive? The article only mentions that he's in the protocols.
It wasn't readily reported but Paul did get vacinated back in Feb and tested positive on Monday.So, is it assumed Chris Paul tested positive? The article only mentions that he's in the protocols.
No one knows. The team, apparently, isn't going to put out an update on this situation until Saturday. Personally, I think it's ridiculous that no one apparently knows if Chris Paul is vaccinated.
I mean...you'd think that'd be a thing the NBA would have mandated by now, given what happened last season and the very public presence of NBA players.
It wasn't readily reported but Paul did get vacinated back in Feb and tested positive on Monday.So, is it assumed Chris Paul tested positive? The article only mentions that he's in the protocols.
No one knows. The team, apparently, isn't going to put out an update on this situation until Saturday. Personally, I think it's ridiculous that no one apparently knows if Chris Paul is vaccinated.
I mean...you'd think that'd be a thing the NBA would have mandated by now, given what happened last season and the very public presence of NBA players.
This game is infuriating. The three pointers were falling in the first half; they aren’t during this Sixers-level collapse. Stop shooting three pointers.
Terance Mann turned into Michael Jordan, apparently.
I expect this organization is going to get blown up by the new owner. Probably can't do much with the players right now, but I expect Dennis Lindsey has managed his last team, and I would not be surprised to see Quin Snyder gone as head coach.Yeah, I expect some significant changes. I hate to see a coach as usually good as Quinn Snyder get fired. He, admittedly, made some seriously questionable decisions in that third quarter. The Clippers went on that massive run and like the only thing Snyder did was sub Donovan Mitchell out. What in the world?? Maybe tell your guys to stop jacking up ill-advised, contested three pointers and drive to the basket once in a while. The Clippers have no interior defense especially with Serge Ibaka out for the season. Then, Rudy Gobert got exposed on the perimeter again. He isn’t used to rotating to the three point line, and the Clippers made him pay over and over and over and over and over…… Gobert wasn’t even stopping people in the paint. Like, why are you even out there, bruh? DPOY, my ass. Draymond Green was robbed.
Holy ****, that ending! No goaltending on an inbound pass. This fourth quarter was so good.
Paul George is about to get wrecked on social media.
Holy ****, that ending! No goaltending on an inbound pass. This fourth quarter was so good.
Paul George is about to get wrecked on social media.
The social media slander has been my favorite part of the playoffs. Top-quality tweets abound.
Meanwhile, us Jazz fans are off in a corner, waiting for the time to finally come to blow up the team after season after season of pure mediocrity.May I interest you in a gently used Russell Westbrook for Donovan Mitchell?
Coming out of the East I have the Heat winning because of Butler but also the Celtics can not get the 18th now that the Lakers have tied them again at 17. Heat in 6.Yeah, I can’t have the Celtics winning anything so I hope the Heat advance. Did you see the game last night? The Heat struggled more than expected considering the Celtics were missing both Horford and Smart.
West I have the Warriors for their team play. I do like Luka and the Mavs and because Kidd is a former Lakers coach and Bullock is a former Lakers player but I think it will be a 7 game series.
Meanwhile, us Jazz fans are off in a corner, waiting for the time to finally come to blow up the team after season after season of pure mediocrity.May I interest you in a gently used Russell Westbrook for Donovan Mitchell?
But seriously, what do you think the Jazz do? The end of Jazz vs. Mavericks Game 6 was wild. You can’t ask for a better final shot than Bogdanović wide open for three at home. After another early playoff exit, the Jazz have to consider trading Gobert AND Mitchell. If the site I looked at is accurate, the Jazz owe its 2022 first round pick to the Grizzlies and its next first round pick starting in 2024 is conditionally protected through 2026 (owed to the Thunder because of course it is). It behooves the Jazz to tank to keep that pick.
Personally, the Jazz keep Mitchell and try to build around him though he’d probably be better as a second option. Trading Gobert choke-slams the Jazz’s entire defense.
I think Gobert's time with the Jazz is done. He's toxic on the court, he's toxic in the locker room, and playoff teams have figured out how to get around his basic-ass defensive strategy for years. Because of his contract, he'd be difficult to get rid of, but it needs to happen.Gobert's main problem is he's the Jazz's only great defender while still having an exploitable weakness. Of course, the team is getting exposed in the playoffs under those circumstances. They're leaning way too much on one guy, and teams know exactly how to make him less effective.
I also think Quin Snyder's time with the Jazz is done.Rob Pelinka is licking his lips in anticipation.
Yeah Adrock I watched the game last night and the Heat didn't have Lowry starting but his backup Strus had a nice game. I think the return of Robert Williams helped a lot. That inside defensive game. Smart not playing mattered more I think as he couldn't defend the perimeter. Herro and Strus had good games and Butler looked like he did in the 2020 playoffsLosing Horford/Smart is definitely hitting the Celtics harder than the Lowry's absence is hitting the Heat. Horford can pull Outta-the-Bayou away from the basket. Smart can at least make Butler work a little harder. Jebus, Butler was getting whatever he wanted.
As for Cuban at this point I amambivalent with him. I don't care.Ehh, Mark Cuban is less-dangerous-Elon-Musk. Everything he does vacillates between hey-that-was-pretty-cool-of-you to what-the-****-man. There's no in between. And homeboy really thought people would believe someone so entrenched in team business had no idea there was rampant sexual harassment and an overall toxic work environment happening right under his nose, or that people would forget. GTFOH, Cuban. That **** was not that long ago. As much as I love watching Luka play, I just can't root for a Mavericks' title. Get my dude out of Dallas.
Sheesh, here’s a summary of Suns vs. Mavericks:
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Yay, the Lakers signed Davin Ham to a 4 year deal!!Very happy with this hire. Long overdue head coaching opportunity for Ham. I’m hoping he can reign Westbrook in, get him to slow the hell down. I don’t want the Lakers using any more assets shedding Westbrook’s expiring contact so let’s see if Ham can get the most out of him.
Well, there it is, as expected. Quin Snyder has stepped down as Head Coach of the Dumstper Fire that is the Utah Jazz.The Jazz can do us all a solid and hire Mark Jackson.
This is embarrassing.Same, just in the other direction. An entire quarter of garbage time. If nothing else, no Steph in the fourth quarter should be good for Game 3. Too bad the Warriors gave away Game 1.
System seems good with the 4-1 out but if Russ is staying then it is going to be hard to use that unless they get back a floor spacing 5 or get the defensive wings in a low 3 and D wing free agency.The Lakers don't have the assets to make any splashy moves. They can probably get 3 OR D, not a wing who is both. That's fine given the circumstances.
Best option seems to be trade Russ for Brogdan and Hield and grab OP Jr with the taxpayer MLE or trade for Rozier, Oubre Jr and Plumlee and go from there with wings and front court depth.I've seen the Pacers trade thrown around a lot. I'd agree if the Lakers didn't have to give up any picks. The Pacers would be saving like $60 million in salary. That's the trade. If anything, the team absorbing the extra years/salary should be getting at least a conditional first round pick.
GIVE ME GAME 6 KLAY!Soon.
And Mark Jackson continues to be intolerable on commentary. "Imma call him Klay. Imma call him Klay." Yeah, because that's his name. What are you talking about?
Glad Steph not only FINALLY got his FMVP, but won it decidedly.
Him not winning it was questionable in 2015-2016 (Iggy) and again in 2018-2019 (Durant)
Those are soooo much better than the official one.
Whoever got paid to design those practice jerseys should be ashamed, fired, and replaced by whomever did these fan designs. LOL
They apparently also brought on FizzdaleYep for the assistant GM spot.
preferred "Next Chapter" destination..... #1 regular season record in the West (The Suns) or the #1 regular season record in the East (The Heat).Ehh, I get the sentiment, but the situations aren't even remotely the same. The Warriors signed Kevin Durant at the beginning of his prime as a free agent and only gave up the privilege of re-signing Harrison Barnes. Oh no.
that sounds so familiar.... reminds me of when he signed with the Best Regular Season Record in NBA History Warriors.
preferred "Next Chapter" destination..... #1 regular season record in the West (The Suns) or the #1 regular season record in the East (The Heat).Ehh, I get the sentiment, but the situations aren't even remotely the same. The Warriors signed Kevin Durant at the beginning of his prime as a free agent and only gave up the privilege of re-signing Harrison Barnes. Oh no.
that sounds so familiar.... reminds me of when he signed with the Best Regular Season Record in NBA History Warriors.
The Suns or Heat would have to give up at least rotation players (though the Nets apparently want all-star level players which, LOL, good luck) and draft picks for post-Achilles-tear-but-still-pretty-excellent-Kevin-Durant.
Anyway, teams are just poaching Warriors' talent this free agency. Bye Payton, Porter, and true Finals MVP, Toscano-Anderson. It's OVER for you bitches!
It's as good a time as any to see what Moody, Kuminga, and Wiseman can become.
Sources: Utah Jazz now willing to listen to Donovan Mitchell trade scenarios (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34233167/utah-jazz-now-willing-listen-donovan-mitchell-trade-scenarios-rival-teams-say)
How are you coping, broodwars?
Well, so much for the Jazz possibly trading for Deandre Ayton. -_-
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say)
Well, so much for the Jazz possibly trading for Deandre Ayton. -_-
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say)
And the Suns matched it, so they may do a Sign and Trade with the Pacers.... unless the Jazz want to or can even afford to hop in that money pit too?
Well, so much for the Jazz possibly trading for Deandre Ayton. -_-
https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say (https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id/34242899/phoenix-suns-deandre-ayton-signing-4-year-131m-maximum-contract-offer-sheet-indiana-pacers-agents-say)
And the Suns matched it, so they may do a Sign and Trade with the Pacers.... unless the Jazz want to or can even afford to hop in that money pit too?
Me rooting for Pat Bev:
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Saw a rumor that the Suns are trying to trade Jae Crowder for Bojan Bogdanović. Resident Jazz fan, thoughts?
Nets promoted their Asst Coach up to Head Coach, to avoid the Ime Udrama.
Anyone else see the Nets imploding this year?
Simmons refusing to shoot, Kyrie can't stay on the court... and none of it so far is injury related (unless we talking social and financial injury), a Durant... well, I'm sure he could find better support elsewhere.
Is this perhaps the biggest "Super Team" failure in NBA history?
Everyone was expecting them to tank for Wembanyama after trading away their 2 stars.Including the Jazz. Even if they don't land Wembanyama, the Timberwolves appear to be doing a hell of a job making sure the Jazz will have lottery picks anyway. Sheesh.
Klay is a shell of his former selfJust really glad you were wrong about this.
It may seem silly to care about who the sponsor is on your team's building, but as someone who was there when the Jazz's current arena opened in 1991 this story just makes me smile.
https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2023/1/14/23555527/the-delta-center-is-back-utah-jazz (https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2023/1/14/23555527/the-delta-center-is-back-utah-jazz)
After 20 years of actual toxic waste companies and smart home manufacturers slapping their name on our building, the Jazz will once again be playing in the Delta Center starting in July. That building has always been "The Delta Center" to me, and this just feels like an old friend coming home.
(https://www.sportico.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Delta_Exterior.jpg?w=1600&h=901&crop=1&resize=1600%2C901)
It may seem silly to care about who the sponsor is on your team's building, but as someone who was there when the Jazz's current arena opened in 1991 this story just makes me smile.
https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2023/1/14/23555527/the-delta-center-is-back-utah-jazz (https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2023/1/14/23555527/the-delta-center-is-back-utah-jazz)
After 20 years of actual toxic waste companies and smart home manufacturers slapping their name on our building, the Jazz will once again be playing in the Delta Center starting in July. That building has always been "The Delta Center" to me, and this just feels like an old friend coming home.
(https://www.sportico.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Delta_Exterior.jpg?w=1600&h=901&crop=1&resize=1600%2C901)
Broodwars do you comment on SLC dunk?
It may seem silly to care about who the sponsor is on your team's building, but as someone who was there when the Jazz's current arena opened in 1991 this story just makes me smile.
https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2023/1/14/23555527/the-delta-center-is-back-utah-jazz (https://www.slcdunk.com/latest-utah-jazz-news-recent/2023/1/14/23555527/the-delta-center-is-back-utah-jazz)
After 20 years of actual toxic waste companies and smart home manufacturers slapping their name on our building, the Jazz will once again be playing in the Delta Center starting in July. That building has always been "The Delta Center" to me, and this just feels like an old friend coming home.
(https://www.sportico.com/wp-content/uploads/2023/01/Delta_Exterior.jpg?w=1600&h=901&crop=1&resize=1600%2C901)
Broodwars do you comment on SLC dunk?
No, never got around to creating a profile over there. It's just a very handy site to check for Jazz news.
(https://i.ibb.co/d4rZZY0/2850665-F-25-C3-41-C6-882-B-EBB9944-F826-B.png)
Anyone watch that Lakers Celtics game?Of course, I did. Bad reffing cost the Lakers three games definitely, possibly four. It is what it is.
Lakers gave up in OTEhh, I felt they were deflated from that non-call. They kept it within reach despite the circumstances. I give Davis a pass. This was his second game back, and he played well over his 20-24 minute minutes restriction.
Saw this on Reddit.
(https://imgur.com/ZMKCuy3.jpg)
I saw a tweet mentioning that Westbrook didn't hug LeBron after he broke the scoring record. Which, I mean, can you blame him?
I saw a tweet mentioning that Westbrook didn't hug LeBron after he broke the scoring record. Which, I mean, can you blame him?
I saw a video of AD sitting on the bench, and uninterested in Lebron breaking the record.
But AD really didn't seem into the game at all.
I saw a video of AD sitting on the bench, and uninterested in Lebron breaking the record.
Once again:
(https://i.ibb.co/KNPxn63/440-E3-DC8-B1-AC-4-CBB-A402-1-FE7-A10-FA69-A.png)
I mean the Jazz are trying to tank. There is your reason there.
What the **** were the Jazz thinking trading Vanderbilt and Beas- Never mind, I’m gonna stop questioning it. Thanks, Trader Ainge.
I mean the Jazz are trying to tank. There is your reason there.I was being rhetorical.
I mean the Jazz are trying to tank. There is your reason there.I was being rhetorical.
If you want to be literal though, the Jazz have won too many games to tank properly, recent loss to the Spurs notwithstanding. Also, they didn’t have to sell so low on two starter level players. The Jazz could have just sat them if tanking was the plan. Not that I’m complaining since the Lakers are watchable again. It’s just a little baffling that a man known for fleecing other teams in trades made a very non-Ainge deal.
Looks like Ja Morant could miss more than the 2 announced games for the Grizz....
https://sports.yahoo.com/grizzlies-coach-taylor-jenkins-has-no-timeline-for-ja-morants-return-after-gun-video-suspension-022832825.html
Looks like Ja Morant could miss more than the 2 announced games for the Grizz....
https://sports.yahoo.com/grizzlies-coach-taylor-jenkins-has-no-timeline-for-ja-morants-return-after-gun-video-suspension-022832825.html
What a bozo.
Looks like Ja Morant could miss more than the 2 announced games for the Grizz....
https://sports.yahoo.com/grizzlies-coach-taylor-jenkins-has-no-timeline-for-ja-morants-return-after-gun-video-suspension-022832825.html
What a bozo.
Colorado police also looking into the situation.... 🚔
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1632829012178337795?s=20
Guess you can upgrade bozo to dumbass. 🤦🏿♂️
What's the upgrade after dumbass? Is it shithead?Ja really got let off easy with an eight-game suspension then decided, “Yo, let me hit y’all with the REMIX!”
Looks like Ja Morant could miss more than the 2 announced games for the Grizz....
https://sports.yahoo.com/grizzlies-coach-taylor-jenkins-has-no-timeline-for-ja-morants-return-after-gun-video-suspension-022832825.html
What a bozo.
Colorado police also looking into the situation.... 🚔
https://twitter.com/BleacherReport/status/1632829012178337795?s=20
Guess you can upgrade bozo to dumbass. 🤦🏿♂️
What's the upgrade after dumbass? Is it shithead?
Still waiting for the Nuggets to get that extra point that was missing from Jokic's 3 that counted as a 2.... That they showed the replay of several times and mentioned on the broadcast, but never updated the score....Davis was called for offensive goal-tending that was't one. Call it a wash.
I must confess my admiration for the Warriors. Even after losing the Finals, they still possess a magnificent team with star players like Curry, Thompson, and Green. Additionally, their new addition Durant, who is an MVP, brings a fair amount of excitement, although I am curious about how he will mesh with the team.
I am also thrilled about the new players, particularly Pachulia and McGee, whose unique playing style adds an element of fun to the game. The bench players always come in handy, too. It is an outstanding squad, and I'm looking forward to seeing them succeed next season.
Oh dude, I'm so sorry. It looked like spam and I didn't see you posted it. :(
That's weird. I generally look at https://www.nintendoworldreport.com/forums/index.php?action=recent to see the most recent posts and remove the spam ones. I recall your post was in there twice (which added to thinking it was spam)... but, apparently, I deleted it from here and then the recycle bin - which is really odd, because the recycle bin doesn't show up in the most recent posts link. :(
So, I can't even restore it from the recycle bin. :(
