Gaming Forums => Nintendo Gaming => Topic started by: ShyGuy on July 03, 2007, 11:33:31 AM
Title: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on July 03, 2007, 11:33:31 AM
THIS IS IT BABY MEGATHREAD IS GO
Red Steel 2 is the upcoming followup to the commercially successful, critically panned Wii launch title of November 2006. Instead of being a direct sequel, it is a "spiritual" sequel bringing back the basics concepts and not much else. It's a first person shooter/brawler that Retro studios advised on, so if you can't forgive Ubisoft for their crappy games, do it for Retro!
You play a mysterious stranger in the town of Caldera. Caldera is a modern day alternate reality city they call a mashup of Reno and Tokyo. You have a katana and you have a six shooter. Time to mess up some hockey mask wearing gangsters.
Highlights: - Motion Plus exclusive, it's bundled with the game. - Single Player only - Cel Shaded Graphics, they look amazing. - Interactive world, you can shoot up the surroundings, hit or shoot open doors, and crack safes. More mini game like events are promised.
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Post by: Kairon on July 03, 2007, 11:40:28 AM
I'll buy it!
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Post by: Spak-Spang on July 03, 2007, 01:22:04 PM
I will rent first, unless it has really great online or significantly better controls.
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Post by: Nick DiMola on July 03, 2007, 01:33:39 PM
Will this thread also include the enormous amounts of disappointment found in the first game?
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Post by: Bartman3010 on July 03, 2007, 01:37:01 PM
I'm more than positive that Red Steel 2 is going to do circles around the first game. I mean, I know they just wanted to get the game out by launch so bad that several dozen features didnt make it in. Although I'm going to rent it first since the first one was, well...really rushed. I havent traded in a game in a long time and both Red Steel and Raving Rabbids just felt that...once Nintendo's stuff comes along nobody would want to even touch either of these titles...
Hopefully Ubisoft can change my mind but...just have to wait and see.
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Post by: Smash_Brother on July 03, 2007, 02:12:55 PM
At the time of news, Pap will go back in time and gank it from you.
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Post by: Smoke39 on July 03, 2007, 03:55:42 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Kairon I'll buy it!
I will if they take the time to polish it up a bit more than the first game.
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Post by: UERD on July 03, 2007, 03:57:28 PM
Didn't they say something that amounted to a tacit admission that the first game sucked? Yes, I know it's probably the PR machine spinning at full speed again, but then again very rarely does a developer admit "our game sucked, please give the sequel a chance because we promise it'll be better".
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Post by: Smoke39 on July 03, 2007, 03:59:46 PM
I think that was regarding their entire launch window lineup.
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Post by: The Omen on July 03, 2007, 05:23:31 PM
I actually enjoyed Red Steel...so, uh, yeah.
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Post by: IceCold on July 03, 2007, 06:00:41 PM
I did too.. it was obviously flawed in many areas, but it didn't deserve all the criticism it got.
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Post by: Crimm on July 03, 2007, 08:47:32 PM
Quote Originally posted by: IceCold I did too.. it was obviously flawed in many areas, but it didn't deserve all the criticism it got.
Yeah it did. Fundamental promises made by the developers were undelivered on.
What was promised: "Control like the Wii needs great AI" What we got: AI that is so dumb it opens fire when it is standing behind an explosive barrel.
What was promised: The decision to spare lives of your enemies will get them to help you win What we got: A "special move" system that was ineffectual because every move was impractical to use in battle, and access to a gun vault that really only stood to arm me between levels.
What was promised: Tight sword fighting What we got: Wii-elbow
This game needs to be markedly better than the first. Just adding online play wont make it anything more than lipstick on a pig. The sword combat engine needs to go. Just replace it, the current one is not good. The AI needs to be smart, because the game was far too much like a shooting range. The interplay of saving and killing needs to be more important, and I think it all but demands the addition of lackeys from amongst the ranks of those you spared.
To clarify: If you kill a low level boss his goons should be in you way for the remainder of the game. If you save a low level boss he should dismiss his goons, or if he joins you turn them against the primary enemy.
Joined characters may join you on the next mission, and their presence (assuming they stay alive in fire fights) could trigger events that fundamentally change how levels play out.
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Post by: Kairon on July 04, 2007, 08:38:27 AM
It was a launch game from Ubisoft Paris, the same people who made XIII. *shrug* It makes sense that we got what we got when we take that into consideration. That team really needs to mature if they want to create a definitive FPS experience, on the Wii or anywhere else.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on July 06, 2007, 08:44:39 AM
I think the game will be great, and the only thing that really needs to happen is for Ubisoft to figure out a good control scheme for the Wiimote. And a new sword fighting system.
I would completely ditch special moves in the sword fighting. Very rarely are sword fights going to be won by a special move.
Instead I would have 6 basic strikes that you learn. Each Strike can attack or parry other attacks. Some attacks will go through different Parries and still hit, so you must learn to see which attack the enemy is pulling off.
These attacks can be easily pulled off by simple gestures and button combinations.
Horizontal Slash Vertical Slash Horizontal Slash A Horizontal Slash B Vertical Slash A Vertical Slash B
Companies forget you don't have to have tons of sword moves to make the swordplay fun. You just have to have Sword play that balance, and actually works.
Finally for an interesting Special you could allow sword wielders to Hold A and B for a blocking stance. This stance can put the sword in a block position, and you can move it around the screen. During this you can move the sword to parry bullets from hitting you.
Now throw these elements into an online FPSer with 8 player games and you have yourself a great online experience.
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Post by: ShyGuy on July 06, 2007, 09:28:29 AM
Quote Originally posted by: Spak-Spang
I would completely ditch special moves in the street fighting. Very rarely are street fights going to be won by a Hadouken.
fixed.
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Post by: Crimm on July 06, 2007, 10:34:25 AM
I win all my fights with Sonic booms.
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Post by: Spak-Spang on July 06, 2007, 11:08:43 AM
Shy Guy:
Ha.
I see what you did there. I see it. Oh yes, I read it too.
What I mean is, Sword duels aren't going to be won by some special secret sword technique, but from basic understanding of positioning timing of basic sword strikes. So in a game like this, it would be easier to just have a smaller list of moves so that you can have great control and a well balanced (though perhaps not as deep) sword fighting system.
As for Street Fighter you are right. I rarely defeat my opponents with Dragon Punches or Fireballs, but with a nice flying air kick into a combo.
And Chun Li is hot...so is Cammy.
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Post by: ShyGuy on July 06, 2007, 11:15:38 AM
Oh man, I can tell already tell this thread will the best thread yet!
WHAT WE POST IN LIFE ECHOES IN ETERNITY
Now, if I can only get some concrete info on Red Steel Two.....
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Post by: ShyGuy on July 06, 2007, 11:31:00 AM
Anyway, I know I'm in the minority here, but I liked the sword fighting in Red Steel. It was easy for me. The least favorite parts of video games for me is often the boss fights.
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Post by: Kairon on July 06, 2007, 12:03:18 PM
I didn't mind the sword fighting in Red Steel, but it could've been done better instead of feeling so much like a novelty minigame.
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Post by: Mario on July 06, 2007, 03:43:25 PM
It should be skipable, I just wanna shoot things
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Post by: Smoke39 on July 06, 2007, 10:14:57 PM
Quote Originally posted by: ShyGuy Anyway, I know I'm in the minority here, but I liked the sword fighting in Red Steel. It was easy for me.
It was easy for me, too. But it was boring. Circle, dodge or block attack, randomly wiggle remote around to get 3-4 quick hits in, repeat. It'd be more fun if the controls were responsive enough to make attacking feel more deliberate.
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Post by: Crimm on July 07, 2007, 02:36:42 PM
Quote Originally posted by: Smoke39 Circle, dodge or block attack, randomly wiggle remote around to get 3-4 quick hits in, repeat.
HEY!
My strategy guide said "ONLY ALLOWED TO BE POSTED IN GAMEFAQS!"
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Post by: EasyCure on July 07, 2007, 04:13:35 PM
the sword fighting sucked until my second play-thru. After that once i better understood the special sword attacks i was able to enjoy the sword battles a little more.
it still wasn't perfect but got me thru some of the more annoying battles much quicker, like the ones against the ninjas. It became more offence than defense.
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Post by: ShyGuy on August 31, 2007, 01:26:43 PM
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Post by: Kairon on August 31, 2007, 01:55:14 PM
Maybe Ubisoft is actually doing the right thing and giving this game time to be developed into something more than mediocre. Oh, and they also need good level designers.
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Post by: ShyGuy on September 01, 2007, 03:45:00 PM
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 26, 2007, 10:07:37 AM
This is the games industry. They shouldn't be making promises.
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Post by: ShyGuy on December 26, 2007, 11:11:11 AM
Thanks for the tip BlkPaladin, I scour the internet for news of Red Steel 2 on a regular basis.
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Post by: ShyGuy on December 26, 2007, 11:13:15 AM
I hope the Red Steel franchise doesn't get too popular, cause then they would do something like make it a PS3 exclusive just to tick me off.
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Post by: Kairon on December 26, 2007, 11:46:03 AM
I hope they get new artists. More and more, the art from the old one grates on me as stereotype-driven and... well... as if the artist had never seen asian people before... in a way only truly horrible voice acting can surpass.
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Post by: ShyGuy on December 26, 2007, 12:45:47 PM
Would you prefer anime style?
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on December 26, 2007, 03:13:04 PM
I wish they'd release some screenshots.
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Post by: Kairon on December 26, 2007, 03:44:25 PM
I've got no objections to their "occidental take on Japan" vibe. I can handle the "fun" of playing with stereotypes... just... gah. I had difficulty thinking the people in the comic-book cut scenes of the first one were japanese. They looked like some sort of sino-mongolian to me...
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on December 30, 2007, 12:38:59 PM
more like ACCIDENTAL TAKE ON NATURE
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Post by: ShyGuy on January 04, 2008, 09:22:31 AM
Quote Red Steel 2 apparently being handed to another developer because it's not going well. Online co-op and release in 2008 likely.
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Post by: Mario on January 04, 2008, 05:05:02 PM
Sounds like BS
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on January 04, 2008, 05:48:43 PM
"Handed to another developer" and "releasing this year" do not go hand in hand.
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Post by: IceCold on January 04, 2008, 07:28:16 PM
They should give it to Ubisoft Montreal instead of Paris..
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Post by: ShyGuy on January 12, 2008, 04:59:54 AM
Matt and Bozon mentioned Red Steel 2 on their Wii-k in Review podcast.
Quote Red Steel 2 - Rumours that the game experienced a troubled development cycle and has been shifted to a different team. - It's coming and we will hear more about it in the near future (probably in a few more months) - but don't expect a mind-blowing game. - Indeed, Matt expected to hear more about the game in 2007, but it never happened - this may provide validity to the rumour. - There are more Ubisoft games coming to Wii.
(Summary stolen from NeoGaf)
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 12, 2008, 08:54:21 AM
MORE CATZ, DOGZ, TURTLEZ, HORSEZ, CRABZ FOR WII
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Post by: ShyGuy on February 25, 2009, 06:18:21 PM
Ngamer mag says new Red Steel 2 info coming in March. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showthread.php?t=353470
Just wanted to bump this thread to make sure NO CLAIM JUMPER STARTED A NEW RED STEEL 2 THREAD
Also, Motion Plus, blah blah.
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 05, 2009, 02:16:26 PM
Remember how Red Steel 2 got canceled and is now be redone by a different studio.
Leaked enviromental concept art makes me think they wanted to take the game in a fantasy direction: http://www.unseen64.net/2009/03/05/red-steel-2-wii-beta/
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 05, 2009, 02:29:02 PM
Ubisoft making big decisions based on product quality?
Color me shock-n-awed.
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Post by: Peachylala on March 05, 2009, 03:22:16 PM
I'm just waiting for the day Pro Daisy mocks Beyond Good and Evil 2 failing.
Karma is just like that, so it seems. (IE: Wii was ignored)
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 05, 2009, 05:12:36 PM
I'll check my Outlook Calendar.
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Post by: Stratos on March 06, 2009, 12:21:39 AM
I'm just waiting for the day Pro Daisy mocks Beyond Good and Evil 2 failing.
Karma is just like that, so it seems. (IE: Wii was ignored)
Don't remind me. I weep every time I remember that BG&E 2 is HD exclusive. Especially when I hear that the Gamecube version sold the best. Same as with Prince of Persia and Soul Calibur.
I like those concept pieces in the link ShyGuy posted.
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Post by: Peachylala on March 06, 2009, 12:58:55 PM
I'm not a fan of those games you mentioned, so their absence isn't as heart-breaking to me. I did, however, like BG&E and the world it presented (though it was a bit heavy on the green shading) but Ubi's iggnorance will cost them heavily. This game deserves to fail, not because Ubi has treated us stupidly, but the artowkr is just horrid. Realism does NOT work in BG&E.
But... I'm not humorous enough to mock it. Pro Daisy? Sure. Bill Aurion? Oh wait, he left... ;_;
We need Bill to come back, seriously.
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Post by: NovaQ on March 06, 2009, 05:41:40 PM
But... I'm not humorous enough to mock it. Pro Daisy? Sure. Bill Aurion? Oh wait, he left... ;_;
We need Bill to come back, seriously.
Comically, too, as you've pointed out.
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Post by: rbtr on March 07, 2009, 03:33:44 AM
I really loved Red Steel one. I played it a few months after launch, so I was used to the whole "aiming" thing 8). There was some really cool stuff going on that could be beefed up. I liked that you could approach the mission order however you wanted, and would like to see more of that. There was some great set pieces, the rabbit thing and the air duct shoot out are really standing out in my mind. There was a lot of real effort in that game, even though it seemed rushed. What I loved the most was that taking dudes down was just so easy. It was so easy to drop people with the pistol, 20 minutes in it was all headshots and I felt like a real action star!
I hope this one fares better, but development team switch makes me uneasy.
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 24, 2009, 12:09:06 PM
Rumor has it that new info is coming tomorrow. Or today. Stay sharp people!
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Post by: Stogi on March 24, 2009, 12:33:44 PM
New info about it's cancellation.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 24, 2009, 12:49:47 PM
ONLY TO BE REBORN LIKE A PHOENIX. My only fear is that RS2 news will be delayed by Nintendo keeping motion plus under wraps.
That's what I meant. Apparently, the first concept was not working at all, so they scrapped that one and started all over again.
And I HOPE it gets delayed. The problem with the first one was that it was rushed so it could be ready for launch. The concept was good, all it needed was more time in the oven.
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 24, 2009, 01:31:47 PM
It's already been scheduled for release before March 2010. In total, the game has had almost three years of development. I think that's plenty. Especially for a sequel.
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Post by: NWR_pap64 on March 24, 2009, 01:38:43 PM
It's already been scheduled for release before March 2010. In total, the game has had almost three years of development. I think that's plenty. Especially for a sequel.
True, that should have been more than enough time to fix the gameplay, especially if they used the same engine as the first game.
Now, I admit I forgave the game's flaws because it was rushed to launch but had a lot of great ideas. However, if the second game still shows the same flaws as the first game there's no excuse there. Fans are very sour with Ubi (as well as every other third party developer), so they need to make this game as good as they can.
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Post by: Stogi on March 24, 2009, 01:40:23 PM
Even if it had pirates?
I still play the first from time to time. It's a good game.
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 24, 2009, 03:33:27 PM
Ninjas > Pirates.
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Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2009, 03:57:25 PM
Where's my Red Steel 2:Even Redder info you cheese eaters?
Maybe THAT'S the multiplatform megaton announcement? Red Steel went third party?
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Post by: Spinnzilla on March 25, 2009, 09:34:14 PM
Samurai are greater than anything.
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Post by: Stratos on March 25, 2009, 10:03:25 PM
Jedi are better than Samurai
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 26, 2009, 12:05:14 AM
Batman > ALL
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on March 26, 2009, 06:05:31 AM
Only if he has enough prep time.
Title: Re: Future home of the Red Steel 2 Megathread
Post by: ShyGuy on March 27, 2009, 12:22:46 PM
ATTENTION BRITONS
The April issue of NGamer is supposed to have Red Steel 2 info. It should be on newsstands now. Please thumb through a copy for me pretty please with cream and sugar and Weetabixs on top?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 27, 2009, 12:45:34 PM
Magazines are the worst place to break this game's news.
We remember how the first game was presented (mag), and how it subsequently TURNED OUT.
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 27, 2009, 04:21:46 PM
Apparently N-europe lied to me. I see no Red Steel 2 mention at NGamer's website. Plugabugz or Yoshidious: Would you kindly confirm for me?
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on April 28, 2009, 06:27:36 PM
Psstttt... Nintendo Power is spilling the secrets of Red Steel 2. Oh yeah.... it's Wii MotionPlus enhanced.
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Post by: Spinnzilla on April 28, 2009, 06:31:48 PM
That art is totally badass. Maybe it has a western setting this time?
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Post by: Flames_of_chaos on April 28, 2009, 06:34:39 PM
If you download the table of contents PDF on the nintendopower.com website you can see the character art. Looks sort of like a future western type of thing in a way.
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Post by: KnowsNothing on April 28, 2009, 06:36:47 PM
I just finished The Drawing of the Three (second book in the Dark Tower series by Stephen King) so that art looks particularly badass to me. Huge Roland vibes (except for the katana, but eh). Here's to hoping the game doesn't suck!
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Post by: Deguello on April 28, 2009, 06:38:29 PM
It's nice to see an actual character design. The original game's best effort was those tattooed guys, only because they looked a little less like guys in suits.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 28, 2009, 07:36:07 PM
I've been thinking about this game recently and I think it has the potential to be amazing but I'm worried that Ubisoft won't give it the attention and resources it deserves.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 28, 2009, 07:48:05 PM
"won't"? or "never did"?
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 28, 2009, 08:02:27 PM
Because I'm so nice... (http://i44.tinypic.com/2a0as86.jpg)(http://i39.tinypic.com/2yl2qnm.jpg)
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Post by: BeautifulShy on April 28, 2009, 08:04:44 PM
Thanks BlackNMild.I'm waiting on my NP to get here.So its nice to see a little snippit of what I'm going to see.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on April 28, 2009, 08:07:42 PM
If you were nice, you'd post scans.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 28, 2009, 08:21:22 PM
If I had the magazine & scans weren't against the rules, then I just might have(if my scanner was working).
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 28, 2009, 08:41:37 PM
If by some small chance Ubisoft gave this game the development it deserves it will blow The Conduit out of the water. It's not nearly as generic, I'd assume it'll have split-screen like the first one, and it has a legitimate reason to be on the Wii as 1:1 sword fighting isn't possible anywhere else.
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Post by: Stratos on April 28, 2009, 08:45:35 PM
If I had the magazine & scans weren't against the rules, then I just might have(if my scanner was working).
Why are scans against the rules?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 28, 2009, 09:15:21 PM
Print Piracy, duh.
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Post by: Stratos on April 28, 2009, 09:27:18 PM
Then why do other sites do it? We've posted scans from famitsu and other mags from Japan before. Or is it a US legal matter?
Couldn't you do just parts of a page?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 28, 2009, 10:16:42 PM
Cuz they think they can get away with it.
Publishers have sent quit-it notifications to PGC in the past, I believe. Tho the shape publishers are in these days, can't be bothered to make threats.
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 28, 2009, 10:20:32 PM
Oh yeah....
Analysis.
- Western theme obviously, it actually makes more sense with the odd fantasy settings of the discarded RS2 concept art. It had mine carts and such. - The metal decals on his coat look like circuit traces which implies a futuristic setting. Could be something else though. - Protagonist is a male with dark hair and mid-to-light colored skin. - I can't tell what pistol he is carrying but it looks modeled after a Colt Patterson revolver, maybe a Remington service revolver?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 28, 2009, 11:05:53 PM
Will he meet CAINE from KUNG FU?
Title: Re: Future home of the Red Steel 2 Megathread
Post by: ShyGuy on April 28, 2009, 11:09:57 PM
I'm speculating here, but the first Red Steel was about an American traveling to Japan and kicking butt. This time it's an Asian man traveling to America and kicking butt. Very deep, very Zen.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on April 29, 2009, 12:13:05 AM
Dual swords, dual remotes? LOL
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Caliban on April 29, 2009, 01:22:39 AM
Dante wished he looked this badass. I'm just hoping the game turns out to be more refined than the first RS.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: ShyGuy on April 29, 2009, 01:51:40 AM
Unconfirmed NIntendo Power reports from GAF
Quote
The article on Red Steel 2 is mainly a 7-8 page interview with 9 screen shots and about the same of concept art. Half is a preview describing a series reboot and the other half is an interview with the Art Director (Stephane Bachelet), Lead Game Designer (Roman Campos Oriola) and Creative Director (Jason Vanderberghe). They have the game running at 60fps, the game is set in the fictional dester town of Caldera described as Tokyo meets Reno. The basically rebooted when they saw Motion Plus and decided to go a different direction with the game.
Quote
-1st person, cell shaded, like I said, similar to XIII, -going for teen rating so, "The gore just doesn't fit for us and what we're trying to do" -No multiplayer -exclusively Wii Motion Plus -talk of dual wielding Gun and sword but nothing definitive
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Dasmos on April 29, 2009, 02:18:19 AM
ugh, no multiplayer? count me out.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stogi on April 29, 2009, 02:43:43 AM
NO MULTIPLAYER! WTF?!?!??!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: ShyGuy on April 29, 2009, 02:46:52 AM
You multiplayer prostitutes. sheesh.
I bet you complain that Windows Solitaire doesn't have split screen coop.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 29, 2009, 03:04:08 AM
FPA now?
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Post by: Plugabugz on April 29, 2009, 03:07:52 AM
This game needs a cameo from a samurai wielding Daisy.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on April 29, 2009, 03:28:47 AM
No multi JESUS! But they had the coolest multi with that phone thing going in the first game!! WTF
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: KDR_11k on April 29, 2009, 03:59:47 AM
Ninja cowboys!
Lack of MP is weird indeed though maybe it's designed in a way that simply doesn't allow MP. I hope it's not just lazyness or cost-cutting.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Dirk Temporo on April 29, 2009, 04:40:19 AM
As I recall, the multiplayer was the only GOOD thing about the original. Maybe they're worried they can't compete with The Conduit. But if they added split-screen, they sure as hell could.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 29, 2009, 12:29:00 PM
This game needs a cameo from a samurai wielding Daisy.
That can be interpreted a couple ways, both of which are hawt.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 29, 2009, 04:23:49 PM
No multiplayer would suck, I can't believe they had the guts to go Motion+ only (it's how it should be, I'm just surprised they did it), dual wielding sword and gun would be awesome, especially with a lock-on system like Metroid Prime 3.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 29, 2009, 05:09:46 PM
Guys it said unconfirmed reports in NP. When I get my NP I will let you guys know if it is true or not.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on April 29, 2009, 05:39:56 PM
They did say that there is a lot of stuff that they can't mention yet in the NP interview so multiplayer might online only.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: ShyGuy on April 29, 2009, 05:52:53 PM
Dual wielding sword and gun would be awesome, especially with a lock-on system like Metroid Prime 3.
Is that how's it's going to play? That sounds incredible.
Do we even know if it's going to be a FPS? It would make more sense for it to be a TPS or even a TPA.
The Metroid Prime 3 lock-on was just an idea of mine, not anything official. It would allow you to be sword-fighting a guy and have your movement be based on him while giving you the freedom to take shots at any other enemies that might be nearby. I think the game could definitely work in first-person, but a third-person RE4-style behind-the-back camera could be good too.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stogi on April 29, 2009, 09:06:43 PM
Was the dual wielding an idea of yours as well?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 29, 2009, 09:35:30 PM
Dual-wielding was mentioned as something the developers were looking into in a quote earlier in the thread.
The article on Red Steel 2 is mainly a 7-8 page interview with 9 screen shots and about the same of concept art. Half is a preview describing a series reboot and the other half is an interview with the Art Director (Stephane Bachelet), Lead Game Designer (Roman Campos Oriola) and Creative Director (Jason Vanderberghe). They have the game running at 60fps, the game is set in the fictional dester town of Caldera described as Tokyo meets Reno. The basically rebooted when they saw Motion Plus and decided to go a different direction with the game.
Quote
-1st person, cell shaded, like I said, similar to XIII, -going for teen rating so, "The gore just doesn't fit for us and what we're trying to do" -No multiplayer -exclusively Wii Motion Plus -talk of dual wielding Gun and sword but nothing definitive
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Dirk Temporo on April 29, 2009, 09:56:39 PM
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Cause I'm a picker I'm a grinner I'm a lover And I'm a sinner I play my music in the sun. I'm a joker I'm a smoker I'm a midnight toker I get my loving on the run Wooo Woooo
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Caliban on April 30, 2009, 03:40:23 PM
The image has a nice appearance. But I have a hard time computing Ubi + Nintendo + Effort. General protection fault divided by zero?
I mean, there's GOT TO BE something wrong with this game, right? They did a reboot in the middle of devving, which proves things were already terrible from the start.
Bad animations? Bad collision? Shitty Lotion Puss? 60fps being a total fabrication? Broken PAL output support? Poor menus? Terrible load times? Crap IR pointer?
I need SOME HINT to set us up the bomb.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: ShyGuy on April 30, 2009, 04:55:11 PM
the people have been jumping on the no multiplayer is the end of the world bandwagon. Also, no gangsta style shooting.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Spinnzilla on April 30, 2009, 05:41:42 PM
Oh wow, that art style is awesome.
Also, I'd rather have no multiplayer than bad, tacted on multiplayer that'll piss me off.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on April 30, 2009, 06:12:48 PM
Looks like the Tenchu 1st person sword fights. Hope it plays better than that though. My least favorite part of Tenchu was the direct combat. Never could get it quite right.
No multi is a real bum. Odd that a system known for filling a party role is getting burned with lack of multi. First no local in Conduit and then RS2, our possible local FPS fix, has not to speak of! :P
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Dirk Temporo on April 30, 2009, 06:40:14 PM
Yeah, seriously. After The Conduit was announced to have no local multiplayer, I was hoping Red Steel 2 would fill that void. No such luck, I guess.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: ShyGuy on April 30, 2009, 07:03:48 PM
Ghostbusters is split screen coop.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on April 30, 2009, 07:27:33 PM
The image has a nice appearance. But I have a hard time computing Ubi + Nintendo + Effort. General protection fault divided by zero?
I mean, there's GOT TO BE something wrong with this game, right? They did a reboot in the middle of devving, which proves things were already terrible from the start.
Bad animations? Bad collision? Shitty Lotion Puss? 60fps being a total fabrication? Broken PAL output support? Poor menus? Terrible load times? Crap IR pointer?
I need SOME HINT to set us up the bomb.
Oh come now Pro, UBI isn't that capable of making a massive disaster. That honor belongs to BG&E2.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: EasyCure on May 01, 2009, 10:02:15 AM
This game needs a cameo from a samurai wielding Daisy.
That can be interpreted a couple ways, both of which are hawt.
She should be the final boss. Daisy is the evil ninja overlord who dazzles her opponents with her svelte waistline and kickass hawtness. If you stop moving, you die.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: vudu on May 01, 2009, 02:37:06 PM
I'd prefer the other interpretation--a samurai pulls Daisy from his pants and swings her wildly as you dodge and jump.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 01, 2009, 02:39:34 PM
hawt
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stogi on May 01, 2009, 04:38:14 PM
Daisy's always been a second class Princess. No one thinks she's hot.
Now Peach, "I could eat a peach for hours."
That was by far one of the creepiest things I've said on these forums
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 01, 2009, 05:01:43 PM
Peach is about as useful as a bucket of sand. Try fisting that.
Creepy? No, that seemed rather pedestrian.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on May 01, 2009, 06:29:28 PM
Personally I prefer Rosalina. But that's just me. My friend calls her 'Emo Peach'
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Peachylala on May 01, 2009, 08:12:17 PM
Emo? How the hell is Rosalina emo? Compared to the massive bitchness Kojima made Meryl Silverburgh turn into (sry can't resist MGS4 hate lol), Rosalina had better character development and carried herself in a more intelligent way then Peach did.
Daisy needs her own game. Good fan fiction *READ: the 10% that is good* make her an awesome character. She's a flower that can be in my garden anytime. ;D very creepy undertones
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on May 01, 2009, 08:15:11 PM
He views the hair-over-half-your-face style to be stereotypically Emo. That's purely why he jokes about it.
I think Rosalina's voice is better.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Peachylala on May 01, 2009, 08:22:41 PM
Oh, I see. Guess I didn't read between the lines. ;)
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Mop it up on May 01, 2009, 08:29:35 PM
Wrong wrong WRONG! The characters of the Marioverse deserve to have their own games in the order of their appearances. Donkey Kong got a spin-off first, then Luigi, then Peach. Okay, so there are many characters who got their spin-off out of order (Toad, Yoshi, Wario), but that isn't right! Next in line is BIRDO! He's long overdue! And it wouldn't be some generic platformer either. It would be titled "Shopping With Birdo", and it would be a sort of puzzle game where you have to buy clothes, accessories and such to match Birdo's unique tastes.
It would be EPIC.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on May 01, 2009, 08:34:38 PM
Doesn't Birdo play a rather large role in Captain Rainbow?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Mop it up on May 01, 2009, 08:39:39 PM
Doesn't Birdo play a rather large role in Captain Rainbow?
Large? No. And he isn't a playable character. He's just one of the NPCs you have to help grant the wish of. He gets "wrongly" imprisoned for using the woman's restroom, and you have to help prove his "womanhood". The less said there, the better.
...And yes, Birdo is a large reason why Captain Rainbow is never coming to North America.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 01, 2009, 09:05:56 PM
Look,
Rosalina is a dude, following the footsteps Birdo set forth many decades ago. He's 7-ft tall, a chest flatter than Doshin the Giant, has a deep voice, and hides the Galaxy's biggest secret beneath his skirt. Doesn't take 240 Shine-Gets to figure this out.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stogi on May 02, 2009, 06:10:13 AM
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: KDR_11k on May 02, 2009, 07:26:55 AM
Yay, now the HD gamers finally have to take the Wii sertiously: It's got browngray games too!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Ymeegod on May 02, 2009, 12:28:06 PM
Well Red Steel reminds me alot of Fable's devlopement. Alot of promises were made and it didn't live up to the hype. Fable 2 was tons better than the first so Red Steel is on my wait-and-see list.
I hope for better AI and the ability to dual weild (not with the nunchuck) but actaully gameplay for twin remotes.
Loved that Cover pic too. I would if they'll make a poster out of that (my Killzone one is a bit fadded and could use a replacement).
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on May 02, 2009, 06:29:14 PM
Well Red Steel reminds me alot of Fable's devlopement. Alot of promises were made and it didn't live up to the hype. Fable 2 was tons better than the first so Red Steel is on my wait-and-see list.
I hope for better AI and the ability to dual weild (not with the nunchuck) but actaully gameplay for twin remotes.
Loved that Cover pic too. I would if they'll make a poster out of that (my Killzone one is a bit fadded and could use a replacement).
Imagine dual-wielding Wiimotes with each having a M+ attachment. PURE CONTROL AWESOMENESS!
Rosalina is a dude, following the footsteps Birdo set forth many decades ago. He's 7-ft tall, a chest flatter than Doshin the Giant, has a deep voice, and hides the Galaxy's biggest secret beneath his skirt. Doesn't take 240 Shine-Gets to figure this out.
Your just biased against Rosalina due to your Daisy fanboyism. Rosalina has an awesome voice.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 04, 2009, 08:18:27 PM
I was given this link by Luke. But this is one of the best trailers I've seen since the original Punch-Out one.
If it's real, thats fucking awesome: http://www.destructoid.com/first-look-at-red-steel-2-in-action-is-hot-130946.phtml
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 04, 2009, 09:12:54 PM
Here is the YouTube Version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGhnEafXKfc
I am officially sold. This game looks PS3 & 360 quality if its actual in game play
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 04, 2009, 09:15:41 PM
Here is the YouTube Version: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGhnEafXKfc
I am officially sold. This game looks PS3 & 360 quality if its actual in game play
Amazing. But that can't happen 3rd parties make nothing but crap for Wii so I'm awaiting Ian and Broods opinion on this because they KNOW this for a fact. ;)
Seriously though even IF this isn't gameplay footage (I think it is mixed) it is a great trailer.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stogi on May 04, 2009, 09:17:37 PM
Pretty cool looking. I'm not sold because this reminds me of the first game's trailers and we all know how the game turned out.
That said, I am interested in hearing more.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on May 04, 2009, 09:33:16 PM
I like the sound of it. Makes me think of a western themed 1st person version of No More Hero's Sans-blood.
Seeing video I can see how not having blood can leave the actions a bit less satisfying but I'll wait 'till I see more video and try the game before denouncing it for such a design decision.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 04, 2009, 09:37:52 PM
Pretty cool looking. I'm not sold because this reminds me of the first game's trailers and we all know how the game turned out.
That said, I am interested in hearing more.
I think of it this way. Red Steel one had tons of potential but was rushed and had some sloppy execution mainly in the controls With almost 3 years to refine it along with Wii Motion Plus I think it will turn out well.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stogi on May 04, 2009, 09:41:18 PM
Ya but you can't just assume it will be better. Not with Ubisoft anyway.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 04, 2009, 09:42:51 PM
Pretty cool looking. I'm not sold because this reminds me of the first game's trailers and we all know how the game turned out.
That said, I am interested in hearing more.
I think of it this way. Red Steel one had tons of potential but was rushed and had some sloppy execution mainly in the controls With almost 3 years to refine it along with Wii Motion Plus I think it will turn out well.
Remember they had to restart the project from scratch with another team so it's only be about half of that. Your point still stands, I believe, but it wasn't a complete 3 year cycle. Probably close to a full 2 years by the time it comes out.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 04, 2009, 09:47:05 PM
Pretty cool looking. I'm not sold because this reminds me of the first game's trailers and we all know how the game turned out.
That said, I am interested in hearing more.
I think of it this way. Red Steel one had tons of potential but was rushed and had some sloppy execution mainly in the controls With almost 3 years to refine it along with Wii Motion Plus I think it will turn out well.
Remember they had to restart the project from scratch with another team so it's only be about half of that. Your point still stands, I believe, but it wasn't a complete 3 year cycle. Probably close to a full 2 years by the time it comes out.
I guess it depends how much of the work was integrated in the current product.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: EasyCure on May 04, 2009, 09:58:13 PM
for internal use only
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 04, 2009, 10:33:03 PM
Good job with this pretend leak, Ubi.
Sorry, but that's not game footage. Those aren't in-game graphics and Wii doesn't run in HD. This trailer is more carefully fabricated than the original Red Steak trailer.
Nice of you all to still keep your hopes up.
Nice of Ubi to finally apply high-budget deceptive marketing on Wii games that aren't Rabbids or end with a Z.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 04, 2009, 10:35:17 PM
Hope is all wii got left :(
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stogi on May 04, 2009, 10:36:22 PM
Ya, I knew it wasn't in-game footage (I'm pretty sure we all did). Still, the style looks pretty good (but pretty brown as well). I have no idea how this will play, but it was nice to see him waving the sword around all M+ style.
EDIT: Oh and they better put money towards the Wii, since it's the only thing making them money!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Flames_of_chaos on May 04, 2009, 10:55:42 PM
FYI, MSN Brazil leaked the footage when they weren't supposed to so Ubisoft is now scrambling to get the footage down and all the youtube videos of the trailer down.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 04, 2009, 10:56:39 PM
FYI, MSN Brazil leaked the footage when they weren't supposed to so Ubisoft is now scrambling to get the footage down and all the youtube videos of the trailer down.
Hurry Pro, save it!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Caliban on May 04, 2009, 10:59:18 PM
Nobody's suspicious of that "Destination Playstation" in the beginning?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 04, 2009, 11:02:07 PM
FYI, MSN Brazil leaked the footage when they weren't supposed to so Ubisoft is now scrambling to get the footage down and all the youtube videos of the trailer down.
Hurry Pro, save it!
Not a chance, the trailer is insulting, and the source footage sucks.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Caliban on May 04, 2009, 11:21:42 PM
Yeah and it will have have multiplatform Wii motion pluses and Wii remotes as well.
Well you know Wii has bluetooth, Wii Remote is a bluetooth controller, PS3 has bluetooth, and PS3 controllers are bluetooth controllers ;).
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stogi on May 05, 2009, 12:19:50 AM
I'd buy a PS3.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Caterkiller on May 05, 2009, 01:45:51 AM
this trailer is awesome!!!!!!!! I usualy never get too hyped by the over cool trailers, that I know wont play like it looks. But because of motion pluss I am so hyped for this game and the graphics are freakin awesome!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 05, 2009, 01:47:39 AM
this trailer is awesome!!!!!!!! I usualy never get too hyped by the over cool trailers, that I know wont play like it looks. But because of motion pluss I am so hyped for this game and the graphics are freakin awesome!
Yeah we'll see how the graphics turn out. Pro seems to think none of it is actually Wii gameplay but then again I think he has Red Steel 2 jealousy!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stogi on May 05, 2009, 02:17:48 AM
Just rewatched it. The main character's hat is bad ass.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 05, 2009, 02:34:31 AM
Just watched it and I love Motion+.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 05, 2009, 03:20:24 AM
Pro maybe right. Make sure we are careful about what kind of footage we are looking at.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: KDR_11k on May 05, 2009, 04:39:29 AM
It doesn't look like more than the Wii can handle, remember we're talking about two Gamecubes taped together, not two N64s. Maybe the texture detail is a bit high but I wouldn't say it's impossible to do. The geometry detail is fairly low, the environments are fairly simple, just a few bleak walls and in the town zoomout you don't see a lot of geometry detail either.
I do find it curious that they cut away from the game footage whenever the sword would hit the other guy, either they want to hide the lack of blood or they just haven't implemented the alternative hit effects yet.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 05, 2009, 05:24:02 AM
The resolution bugs me. I don't expect textures and object edges to sharpen from a 480p game output that's upscaled to HD (introduces scaling interpolation/blur) then downscaled and recompressed to YouTube falseHD (compression artifacts and additional smudging).
The core degree of detail of the environments and characters are in the realm of Wii gaffix, but the sharpness of what's supposed to be a *Youtube* video suggests otherwise. The details have a finer presentation than Wii games I see in person. And with it coming from Ubisoft, I'll leap and cartwheel to skepticism. If you can imagine tracing the steps it took to generate this footage, it's like the Wii assets were running off a 360 or PC.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Nick DiMola on May 05, 2009, 06:56:54 AM
I'm with Pro, there is no way that was being output by a Wii. There was upscaling going on there to make it look so smooth.
It still looks like the sword fighting is arena based, so fail anyway.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Plugabugz on May 05, 2009, 07:56:44 AM
I watched in HD (FauxHD as Pro refers to it) and it doesnt seem like it's Wii originated. It seems so silky it'll give Toni Braxton's legs a run for its money.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Tanookisuit on May 05, 2009, 08:59:42 AM
I dig it.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Rhoq on May 05, 2009, 10:03:46 AM
The trailer looks great, but there is no way it was running on a Wii.
The Wii can look very good (Super Mario Galaxy has some impressive visual effects that I haven't seen in a Wii game since), but this trailer looks too good.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 05, 2009, 11:54:42 AM
I watched in HD (FauxHD as Pro refers to it) and it doesnt seem like it's Wii originated. It seems so silky it'll give Toni Braxton's legs a run for its money.
Oh my, Red Satin 2.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Caterkiller on May 05, 2009, 12:02:44 PM
You mean I got happy for nothing!? I hope all of you stump your toes!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 05, 2009, 12:05:00 PM
Easy now, thats not the Cure for everything. Its too early to be drinking
but it said 'internal use only' the whole freaking "trailer"! why am i the only one that notices? (i figured if anything Pro wouldve made a "lotion puss" comment..)
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 05, 2009, 01:50:36 PM
Easy now, thats not the Cure for everything. Its too early to be drinking
but it said 'internal use only' the whole freaking "trailer"! why am i the only one that notices? (i figured if anything Pro wouldve made a "lotion puss" comment..)
There were more important things to comment on, mainly untangling Ubi's web of lies.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: KDR_11k on May 05, 2009, 02:53:36 PM
At first i thought they meant you should only use M+ indoors, but then why not just say "indoor use only"? :p
The trailer got leaked. Internal use means no sharing with people outside the company.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 05, 2009, 03:35:57 PM
Ubi had good intentions (don't show the not-a-game-yet concept stuff to the public) but poor execution this time around (bad PR security over the footage material).
It's apparent why they labeled the trailer as "internal use only"... It's like the first time they "showed" Red Steak, but with a twist.
When Red Steak footage was first shown it came in the form of a concept trailer using pre-rendered footage (the tattoo guy fight). When new trailers came and people got hands-on time with it, the game obviously missed its mark.
From my newfound understanding, Ubi really didn't want the world to see this Steak2 trailer, cuz they didn't want to repeat what happened last time (or did they? hype helps sales). LOLZ, SO MUCH FOR THAT.
This quote sums it up beautifully:
"Since that trailer was leaked, expectations for the game are at an all time high and unfortunately Ubisoft will most likely never be able to meet them."
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on May 05, 2009, 03:42:56 PM
Quotes with no source are fun.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 05, 2009, 03:45:22 PM
Wise man once said
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stogi on May 05, 2009, 03:54:14 PM
Some new details
Quote
- some aspect of leveling up your character - gun and sword combos - “RS2 is tightly focused on intensely physical first person sword fighting, with gunplay a secondary option” - hold Z to lock onto enemy - hold down C and swing to block, vertical and horizontal blocks - switch lock-on at any time - screen prompts you if you’re being attacked from behind. Press A to quick-turn in this situation - many enemies wear bulletproof armor - not open world - not a linear game, multiple paths to take - several hub-worlds - side quests - collectibles - return to old areas with new powers and abilities -”non-combat use of MotionPlus wont be limited to opening doors” - boss fights - production began last summer - Ubisoft discussing the lack of multiplayer: “We would love to create a multiplayer engine, but not right now. It’s single player because we want to really focus on the core mechanic and as much as we all want to kill each other with swords, it’s not going to happen this time. - Ubisoft on releasing a multiplayer mode through DLC: “That would be cool. The world has changed, and we can do that sort of thing. I certainly think that would be cool. I’d buy it. But we need to be careful bringing out something that people think should be in the main game.”
This is really starting to sound like a Suda 51 project.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: EasyCure on May 05, 2009, 04:07:29 PM
If this game delivers, awesome. If this game fails, sucks to be Ubi.
I'm not getting on the hype trian for this though.
But I already bought you a vest and an engineers cap :(
Save it for my Spirit Tracks cosplay
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: ShyGuy on May 05, 2009, 05:20:10 PM
I'm honestly not as hyped as I was for Red Steel because of the setting. I prefer the "REAL WORLD" settings of being in back alleys and Japanese gardens fighting gangsters to the fantasy settings of a space cowboy fighting desert ninjas.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Dirk Temporo on May 05, 2009, 05:23:28 PM
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 11, 2009, 05:18:13 PM
- correct angle and force of a swing are important - you can enter an options menu that allows you to change the force necessary to perform powerful swings - flick Wiimote to pull out sword - quick on-the-fly weapon switching, no inventory - quick-time event for enemy parry, when the situation comes up - once you fire a shot, enemies will charge you - yellow indicator is always present on screen - there are different weapons, such as a shotgun - seems that weapons will be upgradeable somehow - block bullets with your sword - if you start the game without the MotionPlus accessory, the screen will stay black and the game won’t progress - Setting: eastern influences mixed with wild-west america set in the near-future - other areas in the game will also show Asian influence - art direct flew to Japan and took about 6,000 pics in order to get a good feel for the design approach - main character is the only one able to accomplish the task of saving the world - a warlord is the main villain - more that 15 different enemy types - no one from the first game returns - some enemies will have heavier armor and bulletproof vests - at least 5 bosses - story development came last, gameplay was first - 30% linear, 70% free-roaming within massive levels - 70% huge free-roaming levels in which you receive new missions via radio - choose the missions you want - destroy barriers with Katana moves you learn later - 6 enemies maximum at once - as of right now, the game has 10+ hours of content
http://gonintendo.com/?p=81948
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on May 11, 2009, 05:22:37 PM
I likes the sound of those points. Especially that it has a lot a free-roaming play. The one thing I didn't like about No More Heroes was how most of the sword fighting was in contained areas and narrow hallways. Your sword was pretty much useless outside in the city.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 11, 2009, 07:56:54 PM
This game is sounding better and better and this along with Rabbids Go Home may actually be the "Nintendo-quality titles". Most of the listed features sound good but one of them stood out for me.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 11, 2009, 08:00:51 PM
Yeah I'm pretty excited for this game.Motion + is going to be great wilth these features.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: ShyGuy on May 16, 2009, 03:27:22 PM
I picked up the Nintendo Power with the info. It's a pretty good read, I will post some tidbits.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 16, 2009, 06:47:56 PM
Since ShyGuy isn't around I'll post some things in the article.
What does everybody want to know about?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 16, 2009, 07:07:06 PM
everything. Just transcribe the entire article ;)
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 16, 2009, 07:59:03 PM
Lets start with the art style.
The art style is a mix of cel shading and graphic-novel.The game runs at 60 frames per second.The enemy's attire will let you know if he is a grunt or not.
Setting and Story:Takes place in the fictional town of Caldera,located in the heart an unspecified American desert.Set in Modern day times yet gives the feeling of the Old West.A shogun has the town under his control with an iron fist. A wanderer enters the town and tries to set things right.
Controls:Will use Motion+.They plan on having 3 levels of customizable setups.
First is the ability to customize the turning speed and the size of the bounding box.You can also choose between auto and manual lock.Also they are planning power recognition. Will have destructible environments.Can switch between gun and sword on the fly. There won't be multiplayer.They said it will detract from the single player and Motion+.
Miscellaneous:You can block bullets,Enemys range from pipe wielding thugs,armored swordsmen, and lighting fast ninjas.Your playstyle will vary depending on who you fight.There will be finishing maneuvers.Hold Z down after you get the enemy down to a certain point then preform your swing.One of the finishers NP saw was the Swordsman held his opponents forehead and drove his blade through it.No Blood. They want to get a T rating and don't want the player to get distracted.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: ShyGuy on May 16, 2009, 10:18:53 PM
Maxi is a thread stealer.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 16, 2009, 10:46:51 PM
Sorry but you were not around.I'll leave the rest of the news pertaining to this game to you.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: ShyGuy on May 17, 2009, 12:20:10 AM
It's too late now, you ruined it! ;)
- They have been working on this game for three years, so it sounds like they started this right after they finished Red Steel, which was developed in ten months.
- They are using a completely new engine with drastic dynamic lighting as opposed to Unreal Engine 2.5 which was used for the first game.
- The art style was Inspired Leinil Yu's artwork on the New Avengers comic book.
- The game is not set in the future but modern times. They describe the city of Caldera as Tokyo meets Reno.
- Moving is important in the game, you can face up to five enemies at a time and they will attack you while you are dueling.
- The game maps are described as arenas or set pieces placed around among areas with no enemies, instead of hallways with kill rooms, a typical FPS map style.
- They use the plural guns and say different weapons in the game, so I think there will be more than just the six shooter.
- Unlock areas as your skills/reputation increases (ala Metroid)
- They describe using the gun as hitting the B trigger and you shoot wherever the reticule is on the screen. This seems a little odd, you would thing there would be a unholster button.
- They are going to allow adjustment of the turning speed and the size of the bounding box so shooting controls should be much much better.
- As much destructibility in the enviroments as they can
- Music is eastern and western mashup.
- Closest gameplay mechanics they can compare it to is Jedi Knight.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 17, 2009, 12:36:18 AM
The tag team of ShyGuy and Maxi bringing you all the info on Red Steel 2.
In all seriousness the controls remind me somewhat of a mix between Metroid Prime 3 and The Conduit. Red Steel 2 is in between those two as far as controls go. Motion+ is an added bonus.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: EasyCure on May 17, 2009, 10:09:07 AM
did maxi just make a joke?
this game is going to be interesting.. good or bad, i cant say, but interesting.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 17, 2009, 10:58:55 AM
Yep I did EasyCure.
Seriously I'm just trying to try not to be serious all the time. That one was kinda lame.Anyway most of my jokes go unnoticed.Anyway back to the game.
I think the game will turn out good.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: EasyCure on May 17, 2009, 11:47:41 AM
whens your birthday maxi? i'm gonna get you a sense of humour!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BeautifulShy on May 17, 2009, 02:17:57 PM
Yeah a sense of humor just what I always wanted. You still need to send me that sarcasm detector.
All joking aside I think this will be at E3.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on May 17, 2009, 02:48:11 PM
- Closest gameplay mechanics they can compare it to is Jedi Knight.
YES! I loved those games. Dark Forces 2 Jedi Knight was one of my classic games to play on 'The Internet Gaming Zone'. Good times.
I actually think they should make a new Jedi Knight game for the Wii. That special control mode where you directly moved your mouse to swing you saber in a 1:1 way would be really great to translate to M+.
I'm even more sold on this game than I was before.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 17, 2009, 05:10:21 PM
- Closest gameplay mechanics they can compare it to is Jedi Knight.
YES! I loved those games. Dark Forces 2 Jedi Knight was one of my classic games to play on 'The Internet Gaming Zone'. Good times.
I actually think they should make a new Jedi Knight game for the Wii. That special control mode where you directly moved your mouse to swing you saber in a 1:1 way would be really great to translate to M+.
I'm even more sold on this game than I was before.
Yeah, playing like Jedi Knight is exactly what I wanted to hear, and I would also like to see a Jedi Knight game on the Wii. Basically everything you said, except the Jedi Knight I played was the second one.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on May 17, 2009, 05:35:04 PM
By the second one did you mean Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2, or Jedi Knight: Jedi Outcast? (which would technically be Dark Forces 3: Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast)
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 17, 2009, 05:54:16 PM
By the second one did you mean Jedi Knight: Dark Forces 2, or Jedi Knight: Jedi Outcast? (which would technically be Dark Forces 3: Jedi Knight 2: Jedi Outcast)
I meant Jedi Outcast. And they screwed it up with the third Jedi Knight, which should have been titled Dark Forces 4: Jedi Knight 3: Jedi Outcast 2: Jedi Academy.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Dirk Temporo on May 17, 2009, 07:06:38 PM
I meant Jedi Outcast. And they screwed it up with the third Jedi Knight, which should have been titled Dark Forces 4: Jedi Knight 3: Jedi Outcast 2: Jedi Academy.
No, it was Dark Forces 4: Jedi Knight 3: Jedi Academy. Just because it came after Jedi Outcast doesn't mean it was a direct sequel.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 18, 2009, 10:07:27 PM
I meant Jedi Outcast. And they screwed it up with the third Jedi Knight, which should have been titled Dark Forces 4: Jedi Knight 3: Jedi Outcast 2: Jedi Academy.
No, it was Dark Forces 4: Jedi Knight 3: Jedi Academy. Just because it came after Jedi Outcast doesn't mean it was a direct sequel.
Red Steel 2 isn't a direct sequel to Red Steel but it's still called Red Steel 2.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 19, 2009, 12:13:27 AM
It's a 2nd serving of steak.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on May 19, 2009, 01:34:58 AM
IGN hands on (http://wii.ign.com/articles/988/988473p1.html)
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 01, 2009, 09:04:31 PM
I wonder if Red Steel 2 will be $50? If so I'd think that would indicate we could see more bundled games with motion plus without jacking the price up.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 01, 2009, 09:46:55 PM
Lots of gameplay in this video. http://wii.ign.com/dor/objects/867131/red-steel-project-untitled-sequel/videos/rsteeldirect_trl_walkthrough_060109.html
Best of E3 so far for me.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 01, 2009, 09:50:07 PM
...
If 3rd parties are going to do good this time, there's no point in me visiting these forums.
...
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Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 01, 2009, 10:00:06 PM
While I wait for IGN to load, let me just say that Ubisoft's conference was the most painful thing I've ever had to watch. If everyone at Ubi is treated equally, then let the janitor who actually speaks English tell us what you're trying to say. Oh, and if you're going to hype a game, then SHOW THE FUCKING GAME.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Smoke39 on June 01, 2009, 10:13:14 PM
I think this just became my most anticipated game on any platform. I love the visual style, and the sword combat looks like a bajillion times better than the first game. Finally an FPS with some personality!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 01, 2009, 10:14:21 PM
Welcome Back Smoke39!!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Smoke39 on June 01, 2009, 10:20:58 PM
Hello, dear.
Btw, does anyone have any idea if the dev team of Red Steel 2 has any members in common with the team that did XIII?
edit: wikipedia sez they were both developed by Ubi's Paris studio. I wonder if someone there wanted to take another crack at the comic book style after XIII didn't do so hot, or if it's just a coincidence.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: ShyGuy on June 01, 2009, 10:21:35 PM
I agree with Smoke39. FANTASIMUS!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on June 01, 2009, 10:33:59 PM
It's possible, Smoke. Someone(s) there could be a huge fan of Cel-Shaded graphics.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 01, 2009, 10:40:32 PM
Wow. What an exciting way to introduce the walkthrough, 50xs better then "Let's climb mountains slowly" like they did with Modern Warfare 2. The visuals are beautiful.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 01, 2009, 10:41:44 PM
It's really disappointing that they're once again keeping the game rated T and no blood. Takes away the entire meaning of "Red Steel" if you ask me.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 01, 2009, 10:46:04 PM
It's really disappointing that they're once again keeping the game rated T and no blood. Takes away the entire meaning of "Red Steel" if you ask me.
Don't care after watching the walkthrough and reading the impressions the game has been up to one of my most anticipated titles PERIOD. Looks like Ubisoft has gotten something right (I mean with visuals like that and locked at 60fps is a huge accomplishment in itself).
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Smoke39 on June 01, 2009, 10:51:12 PM
I don't think it really matters. It's not an over the top gorefest like Madworld. And somehow I actually kinda like that about it, even though I do enjoy over the top gorefests. It makes the game feel a little more light-hearted. It's about the action, not the gore.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BranDonk Kong on June 01, 2009, 11:15:14 PM
Not saying that it's a deal-breaker, it's just kind of stupid to call the game Red Steel, if you can't turn any steel...red. I mean a few times in the video on G4 I saw him impale a dude with the sword, no reaction. They should put the Wii's parental controls to work - if they're on, the game is T, with no blood - if they're off, it's M, with blood.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Smoke39 on June 01, 2009, 11:19:23 PM
I wonder how the ESRB would handle that. "Rated T through M"?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on June 01, 2009, 11:25:16 PM
Too risky, Brandogg. Remember how the "Hot Coffee" fiasco came to be. Clever hackers could easily unlock it.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: ShyGuy on June 01, 2009, 11:26:22 PM
I think no blood is going to become Red Steel 2's version of no split screen multiplayer in Conduit.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NWR_insanolord on June 01, 2009, 11:28:27 PM
If I remember correctly the original Perfect Dark let you turn blood on or off and was rated M.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on June 01, 2009, 11:30:13 PM
Pah! No blood is merely a graphical difference. No split-screen multi is dropping the ball on an essential gameplay feature. Maybe they should have worried about that instead of trying to get LAN to work since LAN is a no go with Nintendo (unless they wow us tomorrow at Nintendo's conference).
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 01, 2009, 11:50:43 PM
The world must be coming to an end, Ubisoft is releasing TMNT: Smash Up, Rabbids go Home, and Red Steel 2? Three games i am extremely interested in? I am scared.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on June 01, 2009, 11:57:12 PM
I laugh at all the Ubi Haterz. See? there's a good company under all those ponyz games.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Kairon on June 02, 2009, 12:07:11 AM
...then the nightmare of all for third parties, frankly, is the Wii. The Wii is a Monopoly box in a closet! I've got my Wii Sports and I'm good! I take it out, get the family around, we flail around for a couple hours, and we're happy until next month when we take it out, or maybe for junior's birthday, I'm going to buy him a Mario game." - Danny Bilson, SVP of creative development at THQ
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"(We plan to) greenlight more Wii games: family, casual, get everyone on the couch games. I'm a big believer in that. Right now, we're not moving hardcore stuff to the Wii. We were; we stopped it, just because we're a little risk averse. I want to be with the culture of the Monopoly box in the closet – I've got to feed them. I've got to get them to want to buy another game, because they're not the gamers that are looking forward to the next thing next week in putting in the pre-orders and all that."
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Kairon on June 02, 2009, 12:46:20 AM
*Carries flag for Ubi games like Far Cry: Instincts, Ener-G Dance Star*
You're really dedicated to that FarCry spinoff aren't you? XP
It was the best of the three launch window FPS games in my experience. *shrug* Sure, horrible graphics, but it was quite worthy in an oldschool play-for-fun FPS sort of way.
Sad to see THQ shy away like that. But then again, this was evident since it turns out they canceled a Wii red faction project (if I remember that news right). And in truth, no one knew Deadly Creatures had come out, which is sad. The media just weren't there to give the game coverage, or the PR wasn't there to thrust the game in the media's face, come release. It's a familiar story, unfortunately.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on June 02, 2009, 12:48:35 AM
Ouch. At least de Blob sold well.
Did they even market Deadly Creatures outside of IGN?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Kairon on June 02, 2009, 12:56:59 AM
I'm optimistic that Ubi won't send RS2 out to die. They don't advertise their localizations that much (NMH, Tenchu), but that may be because they choose not to get behind games that they've got a smaller stake in.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on June 02, 2009, 12:58:21 AM
Tenchu sales were a tragedy. That game deserved better sales. I really think a sequel with M+ would be awesome.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Smoke39 on June 02, 2009, 01:06:11 AM
Was Tenchu any good? I don't even remember what the reviews said. Did it control any better than the wonky tank controls in the original?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on June 02, 2009, 01:10:05 AM
I loved it. Good music, engaging controls. The graphics were a little wonky at times but it still looked nice.
IGN gave it a solid 8 NWR has not reviewed it.
I'd get it. It's pretty cheap in places like Amazon now.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Caterkiller on June 02, 2009, 01:53:00 AM
Red Steel 2 looks freakin awesome! Come on, this looks AAA all the way right?!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 02, 2009, 02:11:52 AM
I loved it. Good music, engaging controls. The graphics were a little wonky at times but it still looked nice.
IGN gave it a solid 8 NWR has not reviewed it.
I'd get it. It's pretty cheap in places like Amazon now.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 02, 2009, 02:33:07 AM
So I finally got to watch the 13 min walkthrough.Saw it over on Kombo. Takes way to long to load on IGN.
I really like the look of the game. It looks to control great.Motion+ works great from what I saw.
Man that boss fight looks crazy.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 02, 2009, 02:42:22 AM
Here's a Pro Daisy tip for everyone: Instead of waiting for a stream on IGN, just view the page source, find the high quality .FLV file link, and enter that into your browser to save the video and suck their bandwidth dry, and I mean 400KB/sec+. It'll cost IGN more money, and you'll get your movie faster. The FLV file can be played in a variety of third party software like Media Player Classic (w/ ffdshow).
This workaround also bypasses the age verifcation thingo and any video ad they stick in between.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 02, 2009, 02:45:00 AM
Here's a Pro Daisy tip for everyone: Instead of waiting for a stream on IGN, just view the page source, find the high quality .FLV file link, and enter that into your browser to save the video and suck their bandwidth dry, and I mean 400KB/sec+. It'll cost IGN more money, and you'll get your movie faster. The FLV file can be played in a variety of third party software like Media Player Classic (w/ ffdshow).
This workaround also bypasses the age verifcation thingo and any video ad they stick in between.
Wow thanks Pro.:)
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: bustin98 on June 02, 2009, 09:05:38 AM
I just refresh the page to bypass the ads. And I can enter my age faster than I could look through the source code for the FLV file. I'm just saying I don't have any issue of the videos loading and I would think if the movies load slowly through their Flash player, they'll still load slowly by DLing directly. When I do have issues, I just pause the film and come back to it later, its still loading in the background.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: ShyGuy on June 02, 2009, 03:09:59 PM
I'll mega threading the OP out soon. I think we can all agree that Red Steel 2 is the game of show for E3 2009, right?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on June 02, 2009, 03:17:34 PM
I'll mega threading the OP out soon. I think we can all agree that Red Steel 2 is the game of show for E3 2009, right?
No Metroid and SMG2 are!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Caterkiller on June 02, 2009, 04:28:40 PM
My only concern with this title is what happens to the enemies after they are killed. I don't mind them dissapearing, but do that have to do it like an old Streets of Rage game? It looks way to tacky, other than that it looks awesome.
Oh yeah and when the nija guy stabs the bad guy, it didn't look like anything. Even something Soul Caliburish or zelda like would have been better than no type of animation around the stab wound. You know like the blue or red electricity type wounds?
Still great though.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: DAaaMan64 on June 02, 2009, 04:37:57 PM
I agree. The game really just needs polish in that regard. And I expect the game to get it.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on June 02, 2009, 10:37:38 PM
Here's a Pro Daisy tip for everyone: Instead of waiting for a stream on IGN, just view the page source, find the high quality .FLV file link, and enter that into your browser to save the video and suck their bandwidth dry, and I mean 400KB/sec+. It'll cost IGN more money, and you'll get your movie faster. The FLV file can be played in a variety of third party software like Media Player Classic (w/ ffdshow).
This workaround also bypasses the age verifcation thingo and any video ad they stick in between.
You are my hero.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: ShyGuy on June 06, 2009, 02:00:19 PM
These guys are really influenced by the Metroid Prime series
A quote from an interview http://wii.nintendolife.com/news/2009/06/interviews_red_steel_2s_jason_vandenberghe
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NL: With that in mind, did Nintendo give you a lot of support to get to grips with MotionPlus? JV: Oh yeah, they were great. We got our first MotionPlus a few weeks before it was officially announced, and we were like "now we can do it!". Nintendo were great though, they gave us loads of early libraries for MotionPlus and really gave us a lot of support. In a wider sense we worked very closely with the guys over at Retro Studios, and the producer of Metroid Prime came to work with us and gave us a lot of insight into how they handled things.
And another http://wii.nintendolife.com/news/2009/06/interviews_red_steel_2s_roman_campos_oriola
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NL: I asked Jason whether he saw Red Steel 2 as the console's flagship FPS, like Halo or Killzone. What's your take on that? RCO: (pause) Wow, you're asking the difficult questions now! (laughs) I don't see it as a straight FPS like those games, it's a mixture of FPS and a brawler, like Jason said in his presentation, but it's not direct competition because it's on the Wii, not those other consoles. We were more influenced by Metroid Prime 3, but with our close combat gameplay and in a semi-realistic world.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 06, 2009, 02:03:40 PM
So that means that whatever Retro has been secretly working on is heavily reliant on M+, since they are apparently the goto team to help other devs with the tech. Wonder what it could be.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread! (soft launch)
Post by: Stratos on June 06, 2009, 08:15:33 PM
Maybe they are working on the new Zelda with M+ support if they are considered an M+ goto.
Nice to know Nintendo has been supportive of 3rd parties like this.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on June 07, 2009, 11:26:04 PM
I have fully launched the Red Steel page, go check out the front post. Let me know if I missed anything pertinent.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 07, 2009, 11:44:00 PM
You didn't miss anything but there is one word misspelled. The word that is mispelled makes it sound that that another system is shading it.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on June 07, 2009, 11:45:59 PM
You and your blasted riddles, Edward Nigma!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BeautifulShy on June 07, 2009, 11:56:21 PM
I was the Riddler one year for Halloween. So that assesment isn't to far off.
Awesome job with the thread ShyGuy.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on June 24, 2009, 04:24:00 AM
Wateched the "new" walk through videos at IGN. Same demo from E3, but the developer explained the economy system a bit.
- You collect money from destructible items, safes, and taking side jobs. - Safehouses are where you can buy stuff - You can buy weapon upgrades, different abilities and attack combos and temporary buffs like a shield style power up.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NovaQ on June 24, 2009, 09:24:28 AM
So, this game has become a first person brawler with gunplay and light RPG elements?
I can dig it.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Peachylala on June 25, 2009, 12:02:09 PM
Now let's hope the game is GOOD.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on June 25, 2009, 12:28:10 PM
I hope they re-work the sword mechanics and give you more free reign over the sword movement and not pre-animated movements.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BwrJim! on June 25, 2009, 12:31:34 PM
You know, I liked Red Steel.. Why? Because I treated the game like a LIght gun game and I took the sword speed and sped it up.. the result? nice quick actions. While still restricted to the swipes, the sword actually swung when i did for the most part.. so.. for a light gun game (which it really is in my opinion) I liked it.
Now RS2, that looks really really good and with inspiration that it seems to have, i will buy this one.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on June 25, 2009, 05:09:37 PM
You know, I liked Red Steel.. Why? Because I treated the game like a LIght gun game and I took the sword speed and sped it up.. the result? nice quick actions. While still restricted to the swipes, the sword actually swung when i did for the most part.. so.. for a light gun game (which it really is in my opinion) I liked it.
Now RS2, that looks really really good and with inspiration that it seems to have, i will buy this one.
So RS1 was an expanded light gun game. That's an interesting comparison.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on June 25, 2009, 05:24:40 PM
Yeah it only worked if you pretended it was on-rails. Try to move, and the game is all kinds of broken.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on June 25, 2009, 05:28:38 PM
I hope they re-work the sword mechanics and give you more free reign over the sword movement and not pre-animated movements.
I think they are keeping the sword moves canned because of Motion Plus. From what I understand, M+ only stays 1:1 perfectly for a short period of time and then it starts getting out of sync. So if you're holding your sword at a 90 degree angle it shows it at a 75 degree on screen.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Dirk Temporo on July 01, 2009, 04:08:37 PM
I think they are keeping the sword moves canned because of Motion Plus. From what I understand, M+ only stays 1:1 perfectly for a short period of time and then it starts getting out of sync. So if you're holding your sword at a 90 degree angle it shows it at a 75 degree on screen.
Uh... Have you seen the gameplay videos? It looks pretty free to me.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on July 01, 2009, 04:12:16 PM
At first I thought he was actually being sarcastic. I'm don't think so now, but I wonder where he heard/saw this.
Maybe they could just have you periodically resync it some how. Like everytime you complete a bounty/task/mission/whatever there could be a shooting/parying minigame that covertly recalibrates it. Or perhaps the game would atribute it as fatigue and you have to rest in an inn and that is where you recalibrate.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 01, 2009, 04:28:22 PM
It's always being resynced cuz you're often aiming at the screen since it's an FPS, or did people forget.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on July 01, 2009, 04:31:51 PM
I didn't know that was how it resynched. I thought it was something that could be a bit more intrusive. If that;s the case then there shouldn't be much of a problem.
I'm actually feeling the need for it a bit in Conduit. If I aim to far or do a melee attack the IR loses it's connection and I cannot aim for a second or two. Typically that is when Kraken kills me :P I can't handle a lot of close combat fighting.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on July 01, 2009, 04:36:27 PM
Aim too far? Melee attack? Are you standing up like the actors in the Red Steel trailers?
Resort asks you to aim at the screen and press a button before sessions, for a reason.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on July 01, 2009, 04:38:12 PM
No. When I turn and try to turn really fast I'll point too far and the IR loses its aim. I'm talking about in Conduit also, to clarify.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on July 01, 2009, 04:52:29 PM
Okay, here is how I came to my supposition:
In the Red Steel E3 Demo, the game was calibrated by placing the wiimote updside down on a flat surface for a few seconds at the start of the demo. I would think this would be to determine a 90 degree angle along the.... Y axis? The Ubisoft guys said that was all that needed to be done for M+
Anyway, people who tried Wii Sports resort mentioned that after they had played the sword fighting game for awhile the swords would be less than 1:1 and their position on screen would be a little off kilter. I think IGN estimated that the Motion Plus kept 1:1 synchronization for about 10 seconds.
Now I'm guessing that since Ubisoft doesn't want to pause the action every 10 seconds they are fudging the on screen depiction of sword handling a little bit. It makes sense from an artistic standpoint too. It keeps The protagonist looking cool all the time instead of looking like a spastic sometimes.
NOTE: Plenty of hearsay and assuming from me in the above paragraphs.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on July 01, 2009, 04:57:47 PM
Interesting observations, ShyGuy.
Title: Red Steel 2 delayed till 2010
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 27, 2009, 02:19:46 PM
For all those counting on some RS2 action this holiday season, you better start making some new plans.
Ubisoft just announced that RS2 has been delayed to 2010.
I'm hoping its so that they can fix the sword mechanics in the game, because motion gestured M+ support kinda defeats the purpose and completely misses the point.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: kraken613 on July 27, 2009, 02:25:52 PM
Man, 2010 is going to be crazy because everything has gotten delayed!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on July 27, 2009, 02:30:05 PM
ANGER and RAGE plus WRATH also starring VEDETTA
What am I supposed to shoot somebody in? rail shooter Resident Space: Extraction Chronicles? I LIKE TO MOVE IT MOVE IT
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: broodwars on July 27, 2009, 02:36:22 PM
Wow, these delays are starting to really get ridiculous. With everybody delaying into 2010, how does anyone but 1 or 2 companies expect to sell anything with everything coming out around the same time?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on July 27, 2009, 02:41:13 PM
All I can say is 4 years of dev better make Red Steel Triple A.
Somebody needs to make a thread of what is coming out this holiday season.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: broodwars on July 27, 2009, 02:46:57 PM
All I can say is 4 years of dev better make Red Steel Triple A.
Somebody needs to make a thread of what is coming out this holiday season.
Sheesh, what notable games are left that are releasing this holiday season? I can think of the two rail-shooters (Darkside Chronicles and Extraction); Silent Hill: Shattered Memories; Boy & His Blob; and New Super Mario Bros. Wii...but that's about it. Sure, it's leagues better than last year, but it's still pitiful (especially if you aren't into "survival horror" or spin-offs of said games).
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Peachylala on July 27, 2009, 02:47:38 PM
Well, at least they are delaying Red Steak 2 for a purpose...
But 2010? **** Ubi, you're going up against Bayonetta(sp?) AND Mario Galaxy 2. You better not release that game during their release windows (though to be fair, the former is a PS3/360 game, but...). Don't pull a Sega.
Super Monkey Ball 2 got killed by Mario Sunshine. NiGHTS: JOD got killed by Mario Galaxy. The first one is more tragic though, because both are good games. Yeah yeah, I suck for liking Sunshine.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on July 27, 2009, 02:47:51 PM
Wow, these delays are starting to really get ridiculous. With everybody delaying into 2010, how does anyone but 1 or 2 companies expect to sell anything with everything coming out around the same time?
Chances are that everything that was coming out in 2010 will get delayed till 2011.
"Ubisoft's profits may be on the rise, but their reputation has been steadily sinking for 3 years."
Ubisoft has DONE IT. They've achieved NINTENDO QUALITY.
I'm glad! I want this game to be one of those games that start a flood of copy cats! I want 1:1 sword play/gun play to get as popular as a standard shooter. But they only perform well on Wii. Yeah im shelfish like that.
Ubisoft pulls a MIYAMOTO.
Ubisoft is DOING IT. They're achieving NINTENDO QUALITY.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Peachylala on July 27, 2009, 03:41:44 PM
This is AWESOME news for me. Why? The less good to great games come out, the more time i have to catch up on my back log!
I'm serious, this is really great news. The rest of you can suck it.
I agree. There are a lot of games I haven't been able to pick up yet from earlier this year and even last year I need to get. So I'm OK with the delay. The only bummer is that there will be less software supporting the M+ this holiday season.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stogi on July 27, 2009, 06:35:03 PM
Naw it's November 2012, but I say it's bologna! BOLOGNA!
So basically the next US presidential elections are the harbinger of the worlds end. And I thought this last election was epic (more so the primaries drama wise).
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: vudu on July 28, 2009, 02:15:35 PM
Naw it's November 2012, but I say it's bologna! BOLOGNA!
You mean December 2012. It's set to coincidice with the Winter Solstice.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stogi on July 28, 2009, 07:39:30 PM
Ah yes, the 21st of December 2012
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on July 28, 2009, 10:09:35 PM
OY! Stopping spammin' up me thread!
It's supposedly for polish and we'll get it March-ish
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"Red Steel and Splinter Cell are going to greatly benefit from the additional polishing time we are providing and will clearly be among the leading brands on the Wii and 360 for the March quarter," Guillemot told press and money men last night.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on August 19, 2009, 01:29:58 PM
I wanna wield one of those big hammers. Hammer Time! :)
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 19, 2009, 01:44:14 PM
I've become unsure about the whole M+ with FPS thing. I tried Conduit with M+ plugged in, and it was very uncomfortable and distracting in my usual sitting arrangement (lap aiming).
Special prosthetic arrangements will have to be made to play this game comfybly.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 19, 2009, 01:47:40 PM
I've become unsure about the whole M+ with FPS thing. I tried Conduit with M+ plugged in, and it was very uncomfortable and distracting in my usual sitting arrangement (lap aiming).
Special prosthetic arrangements will have to be made to play this game comfybly.
I tried playing Mario Galaxy with M+ plugged in, but it didn't make alot of difference (comfort wise). Can you elaborate your experience?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on August 19, 2009, 02:03:46 PM
What on earth does Ubisoft know that Treyarch doesn't?
That realistic graphics may have been good on Xbox & PS2, but the more powerful Wii isn't powerful enough to handle realism, so stylized graphics are the way to go.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on August 19, 2009, 02:20:39 PM
Pro can't handle an extra couple of inches? Oh snap.
I like the motion blur on the ejected shells and the introduction of a new enemy type.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: EasyCure on August 19, 2009, 02:47:04 PM
I've become unsure about the whole M+ with FPS thing. I tried Conduit with M+ plugged in, and it was very uncomfortable and distracting in my usual sitting arrangement (lap aiming).
Special prosthetic arrangements will have to be made to play this game comfybly.
I tried playing Mario Galaxy with M+ plugged in, but it didn't make alot of difference (comfort wise). Can you elaborate your experience?
In my seating arrangement for IR Cursor Aiming Games (RE4, REUC, MP3, FPS), I rest bottom of my hand (imagine i'm holding the Remote or a pistol) on my lap/thigh. This creates an anchor+pivot point for me that aids in comfort and stability when aiming for long gaming sessions. I never ever aim in those games by holding the Remote in the air. In my hand, the Remote is short enough such that the port end don't really collide with anything when I tilt to aim while resting on my lap.
With MUTTON PLUCKS EX plugged in, the whole unit is too long, and the M+ block just digs into my lap if I try to rest with the bottom of my hand as usual. Effectively, I've lost range for pivoting and tilting. To get around it, I have to elevate my hand to regain the range I need or rest my elbow up somewhere or find some other less direct way of attaining a comfy resting position.
This is a world away from playing something like Tales of Symphonia: Dawn of Fist where I held the controllers behind my head or hanging over the sides of the chair because I'm sitting back comfortably in a reclined chair. Once IR aiming gets involved, my seating becomes directly related to my controls.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on August 19, 2009, 03:07:48 PM
Keep in mind there is more than aiming going on, we've got slashing and hacking with the sword. How do you hold your extended Wiimote with Wii sports resort?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on August 19, 2009, 03:14:02 PM
Keep in mind there is more than aiming going on, we've got slashing and hacking with the sword. How do you hold your extended Wiimote with Wii sports resort?
That is a good point. The comfort is relative to how much time is spent with precision IR aiming. It's pretty exclusive to Conduit. Grinder, who knows? FPS design will need a clear distinction of needing M+ for major tasks or completely excluding it.
I stand up for Wii Sports Rowsdower. Gerstmanning is banned on WuHu Island.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on August 19, 2009, 03:55:02 PM
Gerstmanning, lol. That guy was sitting down for the Wii Sports live feed demo. What a douchey thing to do.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on August 19, 2009, 05:12:03 PM
HAWT NEW GAMEPLAY VID http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xaPOPMjV7sE
Shotguns, Shockwaves, and Ninjas Oh My!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on August 20, 2009, 04:55:19 AM
YEAH. Let's focus on the crappy COD:FU2 ports instead of talking about AWESOME NINJAS
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on August 21, 2009, 04:05:14 PM
Here's the HD version of that same trailer http://www.gametrailers.com/video/gc-09-red-steel-2/54546
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stogi on August 21, 2009, 06:47:37 PM
Man, it's so dope when he launches that ninja up in the air and then blasts him with a shotgun.
I'm sold.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Peachylala on August 22, 2009, 01:32:08 AM
Instant purchase with that one move.
DON'T **** IT UP UBI.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on September 22, 2009, 04:52:58 AM
Meet Payne (the first boss of the game) http://www.gametrailers.com/video/tgs-09-red-steel-2/56275
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Peachylala on September 22, 2009, 01:36:47 PM
*clap clap*
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stogi on September 28, 2009, 09:34:23 PM
New video showing awesomeness
http://www.gametrailers.com/player/56441.html
You guys noticed how they put an effect on the sword when slicing someone? It definitely looks more satisfying to stab someone.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on September 30, 2009, 09:47:15 PM
Now if only they would put blood in the game. You know, the game where the point is to murder people with a sword...aside from that omission, the game looks awesome.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 08, 2009, 01:16:45 PM
New Video!! This should put to ease any thoughts about M+ not being used properly.
Red Steel 2: For Cold Blooded Accuracy (http://www.jeuxvideo.com/videos_editeurs/0002/00024384/red_steel_2_f1q0.htm)
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stogi on October 08, 2009, 01:25:03 PM
That was so dope.
The backstab? You kidding me?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 08, 2009, 01:34:14 PM
Here is the developer video that the video above came from http://www.wiiz.fr/article.php?a=26238
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: EasyCure on October 08, 2009, 07:09:27 PM
Here is the developer video that the video above came from http://www.wiiz.fr/article.php?a=26238
Hey BnM, I just noticed you're at 21% (congrats!) but whast with the "being difficult" thing... is that you joking around in your sig or is that really from a mod??
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 08, 2009, 07:16:55 PM
I'm lower than 21% and the (being difficult) was all me.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: EasyCure on October 08, 2009, 08:35:48 PM
I'm lower than 21% and the (being difficult) was all me.
Ah that explains it. I figured you woulda been off this 'probation' already though, geez. Plus i haven't noticed anything that woulda justified labeling you as "being difficult," aside maybe all the nagging you've been doing about getting our forums some much needed love on the front page.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 08, 2009, 08:58:13 PM
I';m not on probabtion really anymore, haven't been for a while, I just never really changed my sig. I like the "note:" in there. I wear it like a badge of honor.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: EasyCure on October 08, 2009, 09:29:17 PM
I';m not on probabtion really anymore, haven't been for a while, I just never really changed my sig. I like the "note:" in there. I wear it like a badge of honor.
Yeah.. so's an anal stich in prison. Face the facts, Mods made you their BITCH, son!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on October 08, 2009, 10:17:56 PM
riiiiiiight
you realized I put that in there voluntarily based on what it said in my profile right?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: EasyCure on October 10, 2009, 01:08:29 AM
Eh.. sure whatever
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on January 18, 2010, 09:47:15 AM
Sergio Leone Bump!
New gameplay video. The game looks more colorful, with better lighting. The HUD has been updated and I notice that when the enemies jump at you there is some slow motion going on.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Kairon on January 18, 2010, 02:06:42 PM
I came here to be anti-hyped. But I failed.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 18, 2010, 02:24:04 PM
That video picks up before where the last 2 we've seen left off.
The 1st video has you getting dragged behind the bike, then your in the sewer. The 2nd video has you just out of the sewer and just getting into to town. It ends with you meeting the boss with the hammer. This video (3rd video) takes the end of the second video and the boss fight from the E3 footage and puts them together. The only new thing I can see here is that they actually finished the Boss Battle in this video.
It also look like they are a little more lenient when it comes to angle of your sword to block.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Caterkiller on January 18, 2010, 02:25:47 PM
That actually looks really fun! I'm still trying to figure out the slow motion leaping strikes. But at least the enemies don't "blink" like an old arcade game anymore.
Shooting and sword slashing really looks like a good time, and the graphics look like next gen graphics, at least as far as the Wii goes. So far this and Galaxy are the only things that really come to mind that look like a step above the GameCube.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on January 18, 2010, 04:06:03 PM
Come on Kairon, third party, third party, THIRD PARTY!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Peachylala on January 18, 2010, 04:10:04 PM
Damn it, I want Karma to bite Ubi in the ass, but this game looks so damn awesome!
UGH IT HURTS!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ThePerm on January 18, 2010, 06:18:50 PM
dude this red steel 2 looks awesome...i dont know it reminds me of team fortress and counterstrke meets time splitters...sold
that developer dude sounds like jeff goldblum
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: EasyCure on January 18, 2010, 06:42:58 PM
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 25, 2010, 10:51:37 PM
It means that they would rather use the 360 controller for the PC to test their latest build of RS2 on their PC based Wii development kit than to recompile it and transfer it over to a Wiimote enabled system?
I mean, you wouldn't want to use a Wiimote setup while sitting at a cramped desk enclosure in an office would you?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Caterkiller on January 26, 2010, 02:31:51 AM
And why is no one talking about this?! Sure it was in a stange unusual language but a bit of it was in english. The game looks great graphics wise and the wii motion plus looks to really make this game.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on January 26, 2010, 03:09:03 AM
CUZ 'NO MORE FUCKING HEROES 2' IS OUT THIS WEEK
=O
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Shorty McNostril on January 27, 2010, 03:14:14 PM
Released in Australia March 22.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Caterkiller on January 28, 2010, 02:46:08 AM
Get a load of this guys. http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=13829 (http://www.n-europe.com/news.php?nid=13829)
"There's also some nice news for Europeans, as Nintendomain.it (http://www.nintendomain.it/content/view/1763/12/) reports on special pre-order bonus for consumers in the region. The offer is yet to be confirmed, but shows off a 20-page art booklet, an iron bullet emblazoned with the Red Steel 2 logo, and four special weapons to unlock in the game - 2 guns and 2 swords."
(http://n-europe.com/games/redsteel2/10.jpg)
This looks great to me! Check the link a pretty decent trailer is shown as well. Some of the motion capture is ugly but the actual gameplay looks great to me.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on January 28, 2010, 02:52:29 AM
If it is like the Conduit's pre order bonus them you just need a code to get the special items. the code was posted on Gamefaqs.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on January 28, 2010, 03:11:18 AM
That package would get me to pre-order. If they included a sword as a real weapon and not just unlockable, I would get 20 friends to pre-order as well.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: SixthAngel on January 28, 2010, 10:38:51 AM
That package would get me to pre-order. If they included a sword as a real weapon and not just unlockable, I would get 20 friends to pre-order as well.
God I hope so. I despise unlockable content for buying it from certain stores. The art book looks cool though. I liked the ones I got with previous games like Tales of Symphonia.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: EasyCure on February 02, 2010, 06:53:49 PM
That package would get me to pre-order. If they included a sword as a real weapon and not just unlockable, I would get 20 friends to pre-order as well.
Would you throw the bullets at eachother and try to deflect them with your swords?
Wait a minute why do you even need a sword, you've got a PhD in penis fencing, just get your friends to do THAT with you.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stogi on February 03, 2010, 12:05:23 AM
for some reason Robot Chicken's donut penis "horshshoe" came to mind.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 17, 2010, 02:23:28 PM
New Red Steel 2 Trailer - Bad Day http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iyEmaIhG8fw
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: vudu on February 17, 2010, 02:30:31 PM
Why is there a 720p version of the trailer?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 17, 2010, 02:43:39 PM
because it's all from cutscenes?
rendered in hi-rez and ready to be cut for a commercial?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Caterkiller on February 17, 2010, 03:42:00 PM
That trailer is awesome! No gameplay really I know, but man doesn't it look like a blast?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on February 17, 2010, 06:24:20 PM
Nice trailer. "Why is the Rum gone?"
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 22, 2010, 07:54:28 PM
Another New Trailer - Hidden Moves http://www.wiitalia.it/2010/02/23/red-steel-2-hidden-moves-featurette/
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on February 23, 2010, 01:56:43 AM
nice videos. I like this game more each time I see it.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Killer_Man_Jaro on February 23, 2010, 01:44:24 PM
Speaking of new videos, how about a QTE interactive cut-scene? (http://www.officialnintendomagazine.co.uk/article.php?id=15382)
You know, this is actually shaping up well. It's weird that this is the second part of the Red Steel series. From what I can tell, it has so little to do with its forebear, it could easily pass as its own separate entity - and many people don't have good things to say about the first Red Steel, so it isn't the best idea to associate with it.
Setting that aside, Red Steel 2 may be the unexpected hit of Q1 2010.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Peachylala on February 23, 2010, 03:31:33 PM
And we have Retro to thank for that. ;)
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Caterkiller on February 23, 2010, 04:46:13 PM
IGN has a hands on preview. If anyone cares to read. Sounds pretty good.
For some reason I can't seem to get direct links any more from there. www.ignwii.com But here is what I found most interesting.
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The Wii Motion Plus noticeably spices up the swordplay. Not only does it recognize horizontal and vertical swipes as well as direct stabs forward, it recognizes subtle and hard attacks depending on how fast you're swiping the Wii remote. In fact, there are enemies within Red Steel 2 that require hard attacks to break their armor before you can take them down proper – wimpy slashes won't have any effect until their shielding is gone.
The sword swinging isn't exactly 1:1 like it is in Wii Sports Resort, but this is something we knew about since the E3 demo: the way the game's designed, you slash the remote and then the game calculates what you did and represents it as an attack a split-second later. It seems like something like this would be ripe for lag, but it feels pretty natural and you really won't even notice the millisecond between controller slash and on-screen attack.
Now I wish I could say that it was flawless, but it isn't. In my early playthrough some attacks were represented as stabs and diagonal slashes couldn't decide between horizontal or vertical. And the finisher moves – the gesture attacks you make after an enemy's been weakened – are clearly using old-school Wii remote motions because they can be faked in a different direction than what the attack requires. For example, there will be a "downward slash" gesture icon over a weakened foe, but you can activate the finisher by swiping upwards – it's only looking for motion in these instances, not the specific direction.
But even though it's still not a perfect Wii Motion Plus product, it is still a very fun game with good, tight control where it counts. The lock-on technology keeps the action snappy by keeping your character pointed to the closest threat, so you can take him down without focusing too much on camera aiming. The developers implement some decent tech to keep players looking forward even when pulling the remote away from the screen to swipe the sword: the reticule will shift from its "aim" target to a simple dot when you're slashing the Wii remote, locking the camera so that before and after an attack the viewpoint doesn't stray from the action.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 23, 2010, 05:18:36 PM
IGN has a hands on preview. If anyone cares to read. Sounds pretty good.
http://wii.ign.com/articles/107/1070807p1.html
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The Wii Motion Plus noticeably spices up the swordplay. Not only does it recognize horizontal and vertical swipes as well as direct stabs forward, it recognizes subtle and hard attacks depending on how fast you're swiping the Wii remote. In fact, there are enemies within Red Steel 2 that require hard attacks to break their armor before you can take them down proper – wimpy slashes won't have any effect until their shielding is gone.
The sword swinging isn't exactly 1:1 like it is in Wii Sports Resort, but this is something we knew about since the E3 demo: the way the game's designed, you slash the remote and then the game calculates what you did and represents it as an attack a split-second later. It seems like something like this would be ripe for lag, but it feels pretty natural and you really won't even notice the millisecond between controller slash and on-screen attack.
Now I wish I could say that it was flawless, but it isn't. In my early playthrough some attacks were represented as stabs and diagonal slashes couldn't decide between horizontal or vertical. And the finisher moves – the gesture attacks you make after an enemy's been weakened – are clearly using old-school Wii remote motions because they can be faked in a different direction than what the attack requires. For example, there will be a "downward slash" gesture icon over a weakened foe, but you can activate the finisher by swiping upwards – it's only looking for motion in these instances, not the specific direction.
But even though it's still not a perfect Wii Motion Plus product, it is still a very fun game with good, tight control where it counts. The lock-on technology keeps the action snappy by keeping your character pointed to the closest threat, so you can take him down without focusing too much on camera aiming. The developers implement some decent tech to keep players looking forward even when pulling the remote away from the screen to swipe the sword: the reticule will shift from its "aim" target to a simple dot when you're slashing the Wii remote, locking the camera so that before and after an attack the viewpoint doesn't stray from the action.
link fixed for you. a simple copy link in address bar then paste into forums job.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on February 24, 2010, 02:40:05 AM
This is technically a Red Steel 2 interview, but there is hardly any talk of RS2 until like the end of it. I honestly don't know where to even post this since it really doesn't have too much to do with RS2 but I it isn't a 3rd Party Shame moment either even though it kinda addresses the topic. well anyway, here you go.
Jason VandenBerghe Creative director of Red Steel 2 speaks on Mature Gaming on Wii (http://videogamesdaily.com/interviews/201002/red-steel-2-interview/)
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VideoGamesDaily: There’s been a lot of noise in the past few months about whether “hardcore” gaming can succeed on the Wii. I’m sure it’s something you’re asked about all the time.
Jason VandenBerghe: Yes, the great hardcore gamer jihad! You’re right, I am asked about this quite a lot. So, do you want the short answer or the long answer?
VGD: Your choice!
VandenBerghe: I think many developers and fans want to pose the question as ‘there are no hardcore players on the Wii’ or ‘there are hardcore players on the Wii’. This question is not interesting to me because I’m not making a game for hardcore players, I’m making a game for gamers, which includes hardcore players – they are welcome to play the game as well, no problem, I’m a hardcore player myself!
I don’t treat gaming as a religion, I treat it as sort of a way of life, and my main passion. So when I see people trying to outflame each other about whether you’re hardcore or not to play on the Wii, or whether real gamers can play on it, I just don’t care. The questions I have are: is the game fun, and does it have something interesting that I can’t do on another console.
I mean, that’s the reason I’ve bought every game that I’ve ever purchased, it was something I wanted to play and it wasn’t available on any of the other consoles I have. This is a Wii game, so if you want to play it you have to have a Wii – but you know, I bet you probably do have a Wii. Because there’s a lot of Wiis out there! Even if it’s unplugged and in the closet collecting dust.
The thing that I think has been scary for people is to watch these kinds of games come out and fail – MadWorld, Conduit, Dead Space: Extraction, all these games – but I think in each of those cases there are other circumstances, different in each case, that make it really tough to draw a real conclusion.
It is easy to make a self-fulfilling prophecy of this and say, ‘oh, hardcore gamers don’t exist on the Wii, so I won’t buy one or I won’t make games for the Wii’. That’s completely possible, the games industry could decide to do that. But I’m not doing that! I’m making a game for gamers on the Wii, pretty much. And I’m offering, I think, a completely new experience that you can’t get on any other title, and hopefully one that’s fun.
To me, that’s the magic combination: it’s got to be fun, I can’t get it somewhere else, and I want to play it.
VGD: Good mix. I think the other side of the coin is that the ‘death’ of mature gaming on Wii is somewhat exaggerated. I haven’t got the sales figures in front of me, but some of the titles you mentioned performed quite well. MadWorld, for instance…
VandenBerghe: MadWorld did fine. You’re the only dude I’ve ever met who knows that! Exactly! If you paid attention to Sega’s press release, you would know that Sega understands what apparently no-one else in the gaming community understands, and that is if you put that kind of ultra-violence in a game, you’re going to sell 10 per cent. Period.
So Sega did what any responsible publisher would do and they moderated their marketing budget accordingly. They didn’t have to make commercials for MadWorld because everybody who wanted the game already knew it existed, because they had been marketing the crap out of it on the internet, where all of the hardcore players are who wanted to play it. It’s not an accessible game. But it sold like 200,000 units, which was quite satisfying to Sega! The Conduit was… I already have Halo, so why am I going to play that? The game was great, but yeah.
And with Dead Space: Extraction – again, fantastic, but a lightgun game? On a platform that has Umbrella Chronicles and House of the Dead? In the same year? I mean, already available on the same shelf? That’s tough, that’s a tough sale. How many lightgun on-rail games do you really want to buy?
VGD: It’s not quite FIFA or Pro Evo, is it?
VandenBerghe: No! It’s a shallow genre. Then again, are those the limiting factors? I don’t know. I’m no genius, I don’t have the final word on the market in these cases. But I think that it is a leap to take the performance of those examples and say ‘ergo, there are no gamers on the Wii’. I’m a gamer and I’m on the Wii, you’re a gamer and you’re on the Wii – you’re here, talking to me, playing my Wii game! I’ve been talking to gamers for months and months and months who are playing on the Wii, who are excited to play this game on the Wii. I don’t think it’s worth getting all fired up about.
VGD: Most Wii developers are rather sick of the topic, I imagine.
VandenBerghe: Well, no I don’t get sick of it. If you’re in this business you’d better get used to being asked the same question twice. But I just don’t have any patience for the argument. I don’t have any patience for arguments that create sides in the games industry. I’m not on anybody’s side in the industry. I’m on the side of good quality games. And everyone on every platform can make good quality games.[/url][/url]
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on February 26, 2010, 03:19:36 AM
Boom! Headshot!
Nice Finishing moves with the guns in this new gameplay trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/complete-level-red-steel-2/62096
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Caterkiller on February 26, 2010, 11:48:38 AM
Man it looks fun! This is going to be a good year for the wii!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Kytim89 on February 26, 2010, 01:50:42 PM
I sure hope this game does not fail. I have high hopes for it, especially since I just preordered it and paid it off. Doo not let me down, Ubisoft. Lastly, I hope there are Rabbids in the game!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on February 27, 2010, 04:52:24 AM
I would laugh if I saw a rabbid in the game. Though this reminds me that I need to pick up Rabbids Go Home.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on February 28, 2010, 11:17:59 PM
Another awesome video of Jason. There is a female model in the game. http://www.ngamer.nl/nvideo-de-softe-kant-van-red-steel-2.html
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 04, 2010, 06:18:25 PM
more pics: http://www.wiitalia.it/2010/03/04/red-steel-2-screenshots/
More Here: http://www.gamekyo.com/newsen35169_red-steel-2-des-artworks.html (http://www.gamekyo.com/newsen35169_red-steel-2-des-artworks.html)
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: SixthAngel on March 18, 2010, 08:18:51 AM
I've heard a lot of good things about this game recently. I am really excited for some more motion plus sword fighting. 5 days! This year is way too full of great looking Wii games.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on March 18, 2010, 08:20:26 AM
I just figured out that the pre-order bonus is in-game special weapons, not actual physical replicas...kinda takes half of my reason for pre-ordering...
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 18, 2010, 12:12:42 PM
They made a tv comercial : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BTdmRR9U_3s
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Peachylala on March 18, 2010, 12:50:02 PM
They are advertising this?
Wow, NoA didn't even do that (okay, not like THAT, but still) with Metroid Prime 3. Impressive Ubi, your rep may not have fully imploded yet.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 18, 2010, 09:24:01 PM
March Madness! Red Steel 2 out next week!
But there's no flashlights in this game, me thinks.
D=
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NeoStar9X on March 21, 2010, 09:53:15 PM
Had to cancel my Amazon.com pre-order and decided to put it through Best Buy so I can just pick it up from the store. I'm getting tired of the shipping wait with Amazon. Free shipping would result it seems in the game being shipped out around the 29th.
The length of the game has me concerned a bit but there seems to be some extra modes outside of the main single player game so that could extend the length of the game.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 21, 2010, 10:02:14 PM
Holy **** this comes out in 2 days.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Caterkiller on March 21, 2010, 10:24:29 PM
I am betting on at least 9.0 ratings all over the place. I don't feel Conduited a all.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NeoStar9X on March 21, 2010, 10:42:26 PM
I just hope Ubisoft advertises this. We have a commercial I just hope they air it well. I do want to this to sell well. Hopefully I can pick this up Tuesday.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on March 22, 2010, 05:01:06 AM
Had to cancel my Amazon.com pre-order and decided to put it through Best Buy so I can just pick it up from the store. I'm getting tired of the shipping wait with Amazon. Free shipping would result it seems in the game being shipped out around the 29th.
The length of the game has me concerned a bit but there seems to be some extra modes outside of the main single player game so that could extend the length of the game.
You know that's typically an estimate, right? I get mine much sooner and it is shipped much sooner on all of my orders. The only time it didn't ship out early was when the item in question was a back ordered item they couldn't get in the end.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Spinnzilla on March 22, 2010, 06:57:05 AM
Thank GOD my spring break is next week.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 22, 2010, 01:41:59 PM
It's this week people, time to get hyped! Any reports of it being in stores early?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 22, 2010, 02:54:05 PM
It's been pirated early.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 22, 2010, 03:04:26 PM
This game needs to be bought based on the sheer awesomeness of Jason Vandenberghe alone
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Well, kids, for the record, I have no interest in your religious war. I’m gonna go ahead and make what some of you might call a ‘real game’ for Wii, put a bunch of stuff in it you can’t get on other platforms, and I’m betting that one or two of you might evening be willing to try it, even if it’s on the Wii. See if I don’t!
New Weapons trailer: http://www.gametrailers.com/video/weapons-trailer-red-steel-2/63483
HYYYYYPE!
That looks so good. Now I wanna go cancel my pre-order and pick it up instore on day 1. Anybody pre-order this through Gamestop for the codes to the extra swords? we can swap codes since you get extra guns through Amazon.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: vudu on March 22, 2010, 09:20:37 PM
Can the codes really only be used once, or is it just an unlock code that'll appear on GameFAQS tomorrow?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on March 22, 2010, 09:22:15 PM
I have no idea. This will be my first game with a promotional gimmick of this type.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 22, 2010, 09:39:20 PM
The conduit codes were universal, and I've heard the Raving Rabids promo codes were the same. So probably on Gamefaqs tomorrow.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NWR_Neal on March 22, 2010, 09:39:54 PM
Review copy has been in my hands for a few days. It's really really good.
Still working my way through it, but unless it totally shits the bed in the last part, this is a fantastic game.
The combat is kick ass, and they keep on throwing small wrenches into it. It's not too complicated, and outrageously intuitive. It looks awesome, though there's some annoying elevator-esque load sequences.
It's also kind of an open world game, which I didn't expect. However, it's very linear.
But that's all you guys get for now until my review...or impressions if the review looks like it'll take a little longer.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 22, 2010, 09:43:05 PM
oooooooooh even Neal likes it. Proof everyone should own this game. Trade in your copy of Uncharted and hop on the awesome train!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2010, 02:31:03 PM
I think this comes out today. Don't let the news about the 3DS prevent you from getting this game.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: MegaByte on March 23, 2010, 02:39:10 PM
I just hope it plays well for people who actually know how to handle a sword.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 23, 2010, 02:43:27 PM
I don't think it will.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2010, 02:45:21 PM
Well I have some fencing experience so I might shed some light on how it handles.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Caterkiller on March 23, 2010, 03:08:54 PM
I just hope it plays well for people who actually know how to handle a sword.
I'll be the judge of that!
Woo hoo! that trailer was awesome and you guys are really hyping me up! I really don't feeling like running to gamestop to pre-order, but man I want those in-game weapons. Man I feel like im gearing up for a Nintendo release!
IGN gave it an 8.6 http://wii.ign.com/articles/107/1079106p1.html (http://wii.ign.com/articles/107/1079106p1.html)
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 23, 2010, 03:15:51 PM
It handles like a Snickers bar.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Caterkiller on March 23, 2010, 03:19:54 PM
I'm not sure what the snickers bar means, but IGNs review was super positive. their closing comments.
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Red Steel 2 is absolutely an "A product." It's clear that the development team wanted to right the wrongs of the original game and produced an all new design with controls that actually work. There are still some issues, both in game balance as well as wishy-washy motion sensing control, but the awesome style and energetic gameplay are enough to make this one of the top titles on Wii.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: vudu on March 23, 2010, 03:28:22 PM
Chris Kohler (Wired.com) review (http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2010/03/red-steel-2-review/) 7/10 Ray Barnholt (1up.com) review (http://www.1up.com/do/reviewPage?cId=3178451) C+
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 23, 2010, 03:29:06 PM
Given this, Zelda's surely 8.3/"B" material now.
No wonder Nintendo's going Portable 3D. Motion Plus is a sinking ship and they know it. No more Wii2, no WiiHD, no more home consoles.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2010, 03:35:07 PM
Caterkiller this is Pro we are talking about he likes to joke around but I to try to interpret what Pro said I think he means that the controls are satisfying. One of the committals for Snickers said that "Snickers always satisfies"
Anyway I look forward what you think of the game Caterkiller from a sword enthusiast perspective.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 23, 2010, 03:42:18 PM
so the rest of us aren't enthusiasts?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2010, 03:46:14 PM
Maybe I used the wrong word and meant people who used a sword before and can compare between the sword fighting in real life and this game.
If there are people on here that has used a sword in real life other than myself and Caterkiller than I wasn't aware.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 23, 2010, 03:55:04 PM
But have you used a sword in a life or death situation?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2010, 04:06:10 PM
I guess I haven't used a sword in a life or death situation. So there may not be much weight to my experence as a fencer.:/
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 23, 2010, 04:12:42 PM
have you built a fence in a life or death situation?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Caterkiller on March 23, 2010, 04:19:28 PM
I know I havn't and hope I never have to. Hahahaha.
Snickers I get it!
Wow I can't believe IGN gives it 8.6 and other places give it less. If IGN likes it it must be good right? honestly I'm not worried at all, I have complete confidence in this game.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BeautifulShy on March 23, 2010, 04:25:26 PM
have you built a fence in a life or death situation?
Yes there was a hurricane going on and I managed to finish it during the hurricane.:P
All joking aside I am pretty happy with the review scores.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: MegaByte on March 23, 2010, 04:34:20 PM
I brought up the sword thing since being familiar with katanas, I was disappointed with the control when I played the demo last E3 since the sword didn't do exactly what you'd expect. They've had a while to improve controls, but recent interviews regarding how they designed the controls leave me worried -- it still seems like glorified gestures.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 23, 2010, 04:41:47 PM
Ray Barnholt under scored it.
Totillo at Kotaku seems to really like it http://kotaku.com/5500030/red-steel-2-review-if-only-2006-was-this-good (http://kotaku.com/5500030/red-steel-2-review-if-only-2006-was-this-good)
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NWR_Neal on March 23, 2010, 05:17:13 PM
I brought up the sword thing since being familiar with katanas, I was disappointed with the control when I played the demo last E3 since the sword didn't do exactly what you'd expect. They've had a while to improve controls, but recent interviews regarding how they designed the controls leave me worried -- it still seems like glorified gestures.
It's not 1-to-1, but, at least to me, it doesn't have to be. My logic is: If I'm supposed to be a bad-ass swordsman, how the **** could I use 1-to-1 controls? I'm not a bad-ass swordsman in the least. I freaking love the controls in this game, even if they could be labeled as glorified gestures. I still have to swing in every direction while playing, and not just pull a Racquet Sports and swing the same way for a forehand or backhand and get the same results.
While I'm not knowledgeable about technology, as far as my experience goes with Wii, they couldn't get the control they got with MotionPlus out of a regular Wii Remote. It's not tacked on (Yo Rage of the Gladiator! What's up?); the game works because of MotionPlus.
Also, my review's waiting for editing. If you can't tell, it's going to be outrageously positive. I love this game.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: vudu on March 23, 2010, 05:20:32 PM
Also, my review's waiting for editing. If you can't tell, it's going to be outrageously positive. I love this game.
Says the man who gave MadWorld a 9.0.
True story: I'm actually worried that the same thing is going to happen again when I slightly regret my accolades.
However, every time I read my MadWorld review, I still agree with it (and I read it while writing my Red Steel 2 review, so it's fresh on my mind). I still think it's worthy of a 9.0, and I still think it's a pretty awesome game. Would I play it again? Maybe, maybe not.
Still, it's a 9.0 game the first time through to me.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 23, 2010, 06:38:20 PM
I have it in my hands! I like the fact the case is NOT one of the crappy "green" cases with hole in the front and back.
Protip: Fred Meyer has it on a 10% discount
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NWR_insanolord on March 23, 2010, 06:59:22 PM
I got an e-mail from Amazon saying it shipped. It should be here Thursday. I will, however, be 30,000 feet in the air over somewhere in the vicinity of Pittsburgh when it arrives.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 23, 2010, 08:55:29 PM
Anyone else have this yet? If not, buy it. NAO
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 23, 2010, 08:56:45 PM
I so want this. But my credit card says I have too much debt already, what shall I do?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NWR_Neal on March 23, 2010, 09:03:07 PM
I so want this. But my credit card says I have too much debt already, what shall I do?
You should get another credit card that appreciates you for the spender that you are and supports you through each and every purchase decision that you wish to make.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Mop it up on March 23, 2010, 09:13:32 PM
I so want this. But my credit card says I have too much debt already, what shall I do?
Get a boyfriend who likes to buy you stuff. That's what I'm still hoping to find.
My wallet says true dat...but I'm glad my girl appreciates it. ;D She even offers to pay sometimes. We actually hunt the stores about once a week now to try and find me a copy of Wii Fit Plus. We went today and got a DS Lite and New Mario Brothers for her little sister's B-Day.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 23, 2010, 10:00:21 PM
I so want this. But my credit card says I have too much debt already, what shall I do?
Get a boyfriend who likes to buy you stuff. That's what I'm still hoping to find.
My wallet says true dat...but I'm glad my girl appreciates it. ;D She even offers to pay sometimes. We actually hunt the stores about once a week now to try and find me a copy of Wii Fit Plus. We went today and got a DS Lite and New Mario Brothers for her little sister's B-Day.
Stratos can you be my boyfriend temporarily?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 23, 2010, 10:26:27 PM
I so want this. But my credit card says I have too much debt already, what shall I do?
Trade in your 360 before it RROD, yo.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 23, 2010, 10:30:05 PM
First hour impressions bullet points!
- Don't skip the opening cut scene it has a different ending than the E3 demo last year. - Doing the fps part standing up feel a little weird. - Swords moves are definitely "arcadey" but still accurate enough slice the head off a wooden cutout or juggle a cactus. - Found a secretish spot in the first area! - Getting cash is like Link getting rupees. Smash everthing, the leave, come back, and smash some more!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NWR_Lindy on March 23, 2010, 10:44:49 PM
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Kytim89 on March 23, 2010, 11:29:27 PM
The quality of this game far eclipses the first one. I thought the controls were very balanced and responsive. Although it made my arm and shoulder hurt after playing for about three hours.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: kbaker2002de on March 23, 2010, 11:36:02 PM
So far this game is SO GOOD. I think the action and motion is very good and the graphics are absolutely amazing. It is really impressive what just being able to run at 60 FPS can do for a games look. As for negs, I would say the areas could be more open world and larger, but I am early in the game so far. Very impressed, it won't sell great, but it should.
FYI, spreading the word, I bought mine at Costco for $54 for Red Steel 2, Wii Motion Plus and Red Steel 1. Since I never played it I was quite happy to have it tag along for free.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NeoStar9X on March 24, 2010, 12:36:56 AM
Excellent game. . I will say though that I've had to play standing up. Can't seem to play correctly sitting down. If I had a different chair that might be different as I have a computer chair and not a couch (Wii is in my bedroom). That's not a problem since it's very entertaining. Only sat for some of the cut scenes while characters were talking. You have to be very deliberate I'm finding with your sword attacks. Taking your time is good thing and the best way to play I'm finding as you have to make sure you do swing correctly if you are doing heavy attacks. You can swing quickly but attacks are light. The video clips they include in the game to show you the movies really help. Pay attention to them.
Downward slashing seems a bit iffy at times I found but then again it could have been me. I felt things weren't being read correctly so I played my TV (flat HDTV LCD like) on a box I had. My TV stand is sort of low. This brought up the sensor bar on top of the TV to the level of my stomach. Things improved greatly. I think I need to go back and pop in EA Sports Active because there were times when things weren't registering correctly and the height of the bar could have been the issue there. The only other game where I've had to stand with the remote so I guess this is why I haven't noticed this problem. Need to pop in Wii Sports Resort as well.
The voice acting is cheesy but in a good way. Music is great. I really hope this does well sales wise and we get a Red Steel 3 and it doesn't get moved from the PS3 or 360.
Sword fighting works best when you target enemies. You can swing while in pointer mode but it causes the camera to go crazy. Locking on to a target (you're able to target others by pressing Z) causes the camera to lock in place and makes sword fighting possible (well it's possible without it so I guess enjoyable is a better word.). Switching between sword and gun is very smooth. The game does want you to do swing the remote correctly as I said. That matters more it seems. You can change the sensitivity too but there are three presets available as well.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Caterkiller on March 24, 2010, 01:57:06 AM
WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAT!? TODAY IS THE 23RD!?!?!?!?! I thought today was the 22nd!
In the words of Mario "OHHH NOOOO!"
Man I wsa ready to get this game day one! I just thought it was tomorrow!
I just saw the commercial on Cartoon Networks adult swim.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2010, 03:57:43 AM
I so want this. But my credit card says I have too much debt already, what shall I do?
Get a boyfriend who likes to buy you stuff. That's what I'm still hoping to find.
My wallet says true dat...but I'm glad my girl appreciates it. ;D She even offers to pay sometimes. We actually hunt the stores about once a week now to try and find me a copy of Wii Fit Plus. We went today and got a DS Lite and New Mario Brothers for her little sister's B-Day.
Stratos can you be my boyfriend temporarily?
...Depends...what do I get out of it? Endless Ocean 2 dates? ;)
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Post by: Mop it up on March 24, 2010, 04:08:24 AM
I so want this. But my credit card says I have too much debt already, what shall I do?
Get a boyfriend who likes to buy you stuff. That's what I'm still hoping to find.
My wallet says true dat...but I'm glad my girl appreciates it. ;D She even offers to pay sometimes. We actually hunt the stores about once a week now to try and find me a copy of Wii Fit Plus. We went today and got a DS Lite and New Mario Brothers for her little sister's B-Day.
Stratos can you be my boyfriend temporarily?
Oh no you don't! Just because I don't want Stratos doesn't mean that you can have him.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2010, 04:25:22 AM
Ladies, ladies. There's plenty of me to go around! ...*POKES BELLY* And at the rate I'm eating Taco Bell now there may be even more of me... ;)
My copy of the game might not come until April. It's not shipped yet. :(
Not like I'd play it before April much anyways ;D
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Mop it up on March 24, 2010, 04:28:44 AM
Quite you, this issue doesn't concern you. And give me that taco. You'll get it back after you do 25 chin-ups.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stogi on March 24, 2010, 04:30:52 AM
lulz
*looks for pic of creepy birdo costume in latex but soon gives up*
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2010, 04:35:55 AM
But...my taco...now I'm really hungry. Maybe I should cook some rice :P
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 24, 2010, 11:44:13 AM
Less taco love triangles, more Red Steel 2
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2010, 11:50:08 AM
But I tried to get the thread back on track. The ladies didn't listen.
I saw this game in the store yesterday. I wonder how well this sells first week. 100k? 200K?
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 24, 2010, 11:58:24 AM
20K
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Post by: ShyGuy on March 24, 2010, 12:04:44 PM
20k and one penny
I just realized I can shoot the red squares on lockers and boxes to open them, lulz.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Peachylala on March 24, 2010, 01:06:38 PM
I saw this game in the store yesterday. I wonder how well this sells first week. 100k? 200K?
Depends entirelly on how well reviews treat the game and how much it was advertised. Red Steel 1 wasn't great but sold well due to the fact that it was the first FPS on the Wii.
Red Steel 2, however, stands besides Metroid Prime 3 in quality. Hopefully it sells more then MP3, hell beating RE4Wii would be awesome.
ANYWAY, IGN review time go!
IGN REVIEW: 8.6
Quote from: Craigy Waggy's Score Break Down
bolded parts Peachy commentary 8.5 Presentation The original style and story is something that can't be missed. There are tons of control options to tweak to suit your style. Tons? If he means the sensitivity, then it's valid. Didn't noticed any button options though... 9.5 Graphics Awesome visuals, running at 60 frames per second. Some of the best seen on the Wii -- passerbys may confuse it for a 360 or PS3 game. ahahahahaha no they won't. Not enough bloom and brown. 9.0 Sound The atmospheric soundtrack is awesome. Voice acting is appropriately cheesy but it's the music that's king here. At least they aren't shoving one-liners down your throat. Hi Bayonetta! 8.0 Gameplay The game runs into some issues of misreading some motions, but for the most part we're looking at one energetic action game. You are probably doing it wrong Craigy Waggy. I'm having not problems, and I thank Wii Sports Resort for that. 7.0 Lasting Appeal It's not super long but it's an appropriate dozen hours from start to finish. Challenge mode extends that. I don't know if I want to mock this or not. I haven't play enough of the game yet.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 24, 2010, 01:58:20 PM
Ronaghan Review (tm) is up http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/reviewArt.cfm?artid=22797
9.0 for Neal Appeal (tm)
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Post by: NWR_Neal on March 24, 2010, 02:23:09 PM
Ronaghan Review (tm) is up http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/reviewArt.cfm?artid=22797
9.0 for Neal Appeal (tm)
LOL
So, while I imagine you'll have to wait until you finish to fully reach a conclusion, do you guys agree with me? As I've said before, I love this game...and I appear to be on the higher end of the review spectrum with this game. I'm interested to see what everyone else says about it.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on March 24, 2010, 06:09:41 PM
It's positive post-launch hype talk like this that makes me wish I bought games in stores and not through Amazon. I so want to play it now. I almost picked it up yesterday when I was in Best Buy but I only saw the M+ version and I assumed it would be too late to cancel my pre-order.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Mop it up on March 24, 2010, 11:38:54 PM
I honestly have no clue how well this game will sell. If I remember rightly, the first game sold a million copies. It got some very mixed reviews, though most places didn't score it higher than a 7. I can see people who felt Red Steel had potential buying the sequel, with the hope that it improved upon the game making it great. However, I can also see people passing on the game due to the perceived poor quality of the first one. There is also the Motion Plus accessory to consider, I'm sure people will buy this game simply because they want more games which use the accessory.
How many units did The Conduit sell during its first month? Wasn't it around 70,000? That's my guess for first month sales for this.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Shaymin on March 25, 2010, 09:40:51 AM
The first game was also a massively hyped launch game, as I recall. It's not going to top 20 in the US in March (because let's face it, March is freaking insane) but I think 70k is about right.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 25, 2010, 05:37:17 PM
best review http://aussie-nintendo.com/reviews/21947/
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 25, 2010, 06:50:09 PM
Infernal!
I'm still waiting for the ProGurl review.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 25, 2010, 07:12:36 PM
I'll be lucky to play it this month, or even unwrap it this week.
I'm more focused on getting my site media backlog **** straightened out before playing anything. The appearance of gameplay videos will probably precede any impressions.
And since California furloughs seem to be over, I don't have 3 Fridays/month off anymore.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Caterkiller on March 25, 2010, 07:48:31 PM
Played it for about an hour. Still getting used to the control, I set it too atheletic and found myself being too soft because of past games.
The style is so freakin cool, and when I look at this game I marvel at it like I do Galaxy. It does not look like some old Gamecube game, and I love it! As much as I love and missed games with big presentations like this one, I don't think every game needs it like NSMBW. Just thought i'd throw that out there.
Still just trying to learn the controls, can comment on it more when I have a better handle on things. But when I get into a fight I do get pretty excited and want to stand up and move around. Though I did find sitting down to be just as fun.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 25, 2010, 07:59:38 PM
Be sure to relax, and resist the urge to Flying Dragon Kick your TV.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 26, 2010, 12:06:01 AM
I keep getting tangled in my nunchuk cord.
Also, the Eagle is really hard to do.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 26, 2010, 12:27:55 AM
Is that some sort of COMMA SOOTRAH?
I've heard of "The Dog" before.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 26, 2010, 12:34:17 AM
Mexican Halloween.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Peachylala on March 26, 2010, 12:07:09 PM
Quote
How many units did The Conduit sell during its first month? Wasn't it around 70,000? That's my guess for first month sales for this.
**** sales are deserving for **** games.
I died five or more times on the first boss. God I hate his fucking mooks with guns.[/spoilers]
I'm really digging the art design for this one.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 26, 2010, 12:19:54 PM
MAN, WHAT A **** GAME
21K, tops.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: KDR_11k on March 26, 2010, 02:48:50 PM
So far I'm unsure, I really think they should've left out the breaking **** for money aspect since that makes me feel like I should wreck everything before moving on and that hurts the pacing. There are some parts of the graphical style that don't work well and I think the prerendered intro really moved your expectations too high by the time you actually see the game. Some of the doors look really ugly and since you'll stare at them during loads that's amplified. Doesn't help that the prerendered scenes with Tamiko look weird because of the strong lighting that uses regular falloff, makes her look like she doesn't have the game's style going for her.
Also the store I bought it at charged 40€ for the version with Motion Plus and 50€ without so I have a third Motion Plus now. I picked it over Pokemon HeartGold (25€ instead of 40€) and Metro 2033 (29€ instead of 50€) so I hope it's worth it.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Caterkiller on March 26, 2010, 04:03:09 PM
Very much enjoying this game, as I under stand the controls better.
Hey when exactly does the game save?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Peachylala on March 26, 2010, 04:10:20 PM
Auto Saves when you do certain events or enter certain areas.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 26, 2010, 04:17:45 PM
Yeah the autosave is a little odd. It shows the white cube with the red arrow in the upper left corner when it saves. I've usually quit a game after I am in a safe house then buy some stuff and exit. It usually saves when I go back on the street.
I personally like the money collection thing but I wish the kept track of the other things you collect as well. Is there anywhere it says how many sheriff stars or tokens you have collected?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 26, 2010, 07:19:53 PM
PixlBit is competing for worst review of this game yet; it's an FPS, and a bad one.
While the NEW GENERATION consensus is it's not an FPS, it's a beat'em-up with shooting.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 26, 2010, 08:39:28 PM
That review makes me Arrrgh. http://pixlbit.com/reviews?action=showReview&reviewId=120
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Nemo on March 27, 2010, 01:17:48 AM
I heard that Red Steel 2 is the worst flight simulator game yet.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Mop it up on March 27, 2010, 01:53:29 AM
I really don't see what the big deal is. 3 out of 5 stars doesn't mean it's bad, just average, or maybe slightly above.
It's a first-person game with shooting elements, so logically it is going to be compared to other first-person games with shooting elements. Metroid Prime wasn't exempt to such comparisons, nor should it be.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Spinnzilla on March 27, 2010, 02:37:45 PM
I give this game a holy **** awesome/10.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Caterkiller on March 27, 2010, 02:54:53 PM
I havn't been so satisfied with a 3rd party games since Zak and Wiki. I really am having a good time.
But man, I'm having a hard time remembering ways to kill enemies. I die and die and die, then I just figure out, oh, bum rush em then stab on the ground. Oh swing this way or that way then stab em.
Played a boss who killed me 5 times befor I hit the ground, then I realised, whip around him and hit em in the back.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: GoldenPhoenix on March 27, 2010, 03:41:18 PM
Wow, 1 up gave it a 56. That seems absurd to me from what I've heard about the game.
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Post by: BranDonk Kong on March 27, 2010, 04:15:06 PM
I like how every review starts off by saying how horrible Red Steel was, but it really wasn't all that bad. Sure it could have looked a little better, and the controls weren't perfect, but it was a launch title, and it was actually a lot of fun to play.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 27, 2010, 04:50:34 PM
It was pretty bad, from the standpoint that the FPS controls were a natural hindrance to my progress in the game (then sold it after playing 3 stages). It's was NOT something I intended to "get used to"; I figured that enduring it wasn't something that would pay off, like having the control (muscle memory) experience in this game be helpful for future FPS games. Sword controls were fine for its time, I thought.
Last night, I played some Banana Blitz: Monkey Wars to get some video evidence.
Holy ****, it may be a shareware-level minigame, but the aiming blows Red Steel out of the water. Sega sent out a game that got First Person controls right 9 months before Metroid Prime 3 appeared.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 27, 2010, 06:22:10 PM
To be fair, Metacritic translated 1up's C+ for RS2 into a 56, while Game Rankings translated the C+ into a 70.
THE SYSTEM IS BROKEN
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on March 27, 2010, 07:48:41 PM
INDUSTRY CRASH
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Spinnzilla on March 27, 2010, 08:13:03 PM
Guys, I ran into a glitch. A really bad one. After I completed the water garden mission I had to decscend into the lower part of the city and now I just keep getting sent through the map into a bottomless abyss.
Anybody know how to get around this?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on March 27, 2010, 09:42:29 PM
Hmm, haven't heard of that one. Does restarting from the checkpoint fix it?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Spinnzilla on March 27, 2010, 10:16:32 PM
Now I'm going to have to read another 10 posts of TJ Spyke arguing with everyone about the legitimacy of VG Chartz.
Why do you hate me so?
NEVERMIND PEOPLE. I'll edit my post.
I'm sorry, I love you.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NWR_Neal on March 30, 2010, 06:28:00 PM
I haven't touched this game since the day the review went up, and reading what everyone says makes me want to go back to it again.
It's stuff like this that reminds me how I like games that toy with the first-person shooter genre (Portal, Metroid Prime, RS2) than games that are pure first-person shooters. If you expect or are looking for a pure first-person shooter, you should really just play Call of Duty, or get the hell off the Wii. If you want a game where you beat the crap out of a solid variety of enemies with a sword/gun combo and upgradeable moves, this is fantastic.
I should have just put that in the review. Stupid week-later revelations!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on March 31, 2010, 02:55:25 AM
Now I have to check VG Chartz myself... :P
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Mop it up on March 31, 2010, 02:58:36 AM
Hey guess what guys, Red Steel 2 sold 68,000 worldwide so far. No I'm not citing from VG Chartz, this is absolutely my own guesstimate. ;)
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Post by: Stratos on March 31, 2010, 03:00:11 AM
LOL
Not bad for one week. Hopefully it does well next month also.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: SixthAngel on April 03, 2010, 11:25:31 AM
I just got the game and I love it right now.
The intro is really cool and gave me a bit of time to shoot things before they introduced the sword. The sword comibat is great so far too. So far I've taken everybody down pretty easily besides Big Bill, should I play on hard or stay on medium for now?
The westernish setting is great.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on April 03, 2010, 12:43:18 PM
Medium was suprisingly easy for me, but there are still a few challenging spots. When they throw a ton of varied enemies at you it can get tougher even with all the power ups.
protip: you can buy ammo and power up your bullets by clicking on the ammo boxes next to the guns at the sheriff's store.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: GK on April 03, 2010, 05:51:26 PM
Well I just got it today. My only initial complaint is the lack of setting change for lefties. The game is still playable but the sword swinging can be iffy at times. Find myself relying more on my gun just to avoid any sword play slip-ups.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on April 03, 2010, 06:22:42 PM
I'm left handed, but I've gotten use to playing Wii games with my right hand. The sword play gets easier the more you play it.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on April 03, 2010, 07:02:36 PM
I'm left handed, but I've gotten use to playing Wii games with my right hand. The sword play gets easier the more you play it.
I'm the same but it will be interesting to see how this turns out.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: GK on April 03, 2010, 10:31:06 PM
Eh after playing it some more I'm keeping it left-handed. As long as I can keep the darn thing charged it doesn't seem to matter as much. Is it my Nyko charge battery that's failing me or is the Motion Plus really that big of a drain?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 03, 2010, 10:39:52 PM
It could be the Nyko charge battery.How long have you had it?
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Post by: GK on April 03, 2010, 11:20:27 PM
Going on 2 years I believe.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on April 04, 2010, 04:33:54 AM
It's already been reported that the M+ drains the battery faster when you leave it in the 'Mote for non-M+ games so I'm sure games that actually use it will take up even more juice. I just cracked open a new quad Nyko charge station since I hate the amount of batteries I burn so I hope it will last a long time.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NWR_insanolord on April 04, 2010, 04:46:18 AM
You should have gotten a thing with rechargeable AAs. That's what I've got and I love it, I can use the same batteries and charger with my Wii remotes, 360 controllers, and various remotes and other things, and when the batteries can't hold a charge anymore you just have to buy new batteries and not a whole new charger.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on April 04, 2010, 04:48:23 AM
All of my rechargeable AAs died or got lost around the same time so I just kinda decided to try something new. Plus it was on sale.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Mop it up on April 04, 2010, 03:20:05 PM
I'm ambidextrous so I can easily adapt to any control setup the Wii throws at me! HA HA HAAA!
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 04, 2010, 03:24:41 PM
My copy showed up yesterday but I would have never known had I not come to my moms house for Easter. I'm gonna go fire it up in a little bit.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on April 04, 2010, 04:40:22 PM
Do you ship packages to your parents house too? I don't trust my neighborhood so I send them to my folks house since they are in a low crime community and my appartment is right off a busy street in a higher crime area. Don't want my stuff to get jacked.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 04, 2010, 05:00:16 PM
Do you ship packages to your parents house too? I don't trust my neighborhood so I send them to my folks house since they are in a low crime community and my appartment is right off a busy street in a higher crime area. Don't want my stuff to get jacked.
I have everything shipped there since I never bothered to change my address. It also gives me a reason to go visit my mom more often since I always have to pick up my mail. It also works better with larger packages(front door and mail box is not really visible from the street) since you can't hear the mail person knock at the apartment unless they knock on the window.
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Post by: Mop it up on April 04, 2010, 05:06:41 PM
I do that with larger/expensive packages, but not with a single videogame.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: EasyCure on April 05, 2010, 08:31:17 PM
Just started playing this. It's OKAY so far..
whats with the ugly person demonstrating how to swing the sword? Wouldn't an animation that doesn't break the look of the game suffice?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on April 05, 2010, 09:44:58 PM
They mentioned the blonde in an interview. They tried replacing it with animations, but they found she was the easiest way to convey the movements.
Also, this game is more than okay. You have to get into the combat like a Ninja Gaiden or a Devil May Cry.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: EasyCure on April 05, 2010, 10:02:22 PM
I'm sure i'll like it, today I've been juggling the following games:
wii sports resort red steel 2 call of duty: modern warfare [reflex] super princess peach and mushroom men
after a 2 week absence from my Wii.
The fact that i was rushing thru those forced tuturiols probably put me in the wrong mood to enjoy the game.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on April 05, 2010, 10:30:53 PM
Don't wolf down the steak without chewing it! Savor the flavor...
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: EasyCure on April 05, 2010, 10:36:48 PM
after being starved for so long i felt like a buffet, sue me.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: SixthAngel on April 06, 2010, 10:38:54 AM
This game gets better and better as you go along. The new moves really keep making the combat better and better. I just learned the matador and the shot. The shot is probably my favorite.
I also like all the hidden things they have around like the Sherrif Stars, it reminds me of looking for the items in Metroid.
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Post by: Peachylala on April 06, 2010, 11:42:06 AM
That, but as EasyCure said, the tutorials really break up the flow. Still a fine game... now where are the sales data?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2010, 12:18:25 PM
Well I just went over to VGCha*SLAP*.....
Thanks Salesbot.... I needed that, I don't know what just came over me. I....I'll just wait for some real numbers from NPD either this week or next.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 06, 2010, 12:59:30 PM
20K
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: KDR_11k on April 06, 2010, 02:23:23 PM
The tutorials were fairly annoying (especially having to repeat a move 3 times at the end) but they don't take that much time and the rest of the game is fun.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2010, 02:28:13 PM
Does anyone have the pre-order codes for RS2?
edit: Ok, I just have to say that I've been playing this up to the second training right now and I already miss twitch based gaming. I don't necessarily want to have to swing my whole arm. I like that it's somewhat accurately tracking the direction of my movements, but i really don't want to do wild movements that could put the surrounding furniture or people in harms way when simple but accurate movements would suffice.
This is gonna take some getting used to.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 06, 2010, 03:09:11 PM
Quit whining, you knew what you were getting into when you forfeited the dead presidents.
This game weeds out weakness.
I saw an OH-BEESE man play Wii Sports Resort Swordplay at a Fry's store. He casually waved his wrist like he was wielding a garden hose, and got whooped at stage1. What an utter failure. Bring some passion to the table, move your ass.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2010, 03:15:49 PM
But I have to swing like I'm actually trying to kill someone or my M+ is not working properly. But either way, it seemed to track much easier in WSR than it is here.
I'm used to movements from the elbow to the hand(M+) vs just wrist movement(basic wiimote), but this is requiring full on movement from the shoulder and the nunchuck cord just isn't long enough for that. I'm gonna end up tying my wrist into some sort of knot with the cord if I'm not careful.
edit:
It's weird that it responds fine when in non combat situations, but acts up when I need to fight, more specifically the downward strike.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: Stratos on April 06, 2010, 03:41:00 PM
Buy the wireless nunchuck. I'm seriously thinking about getting one specifically for games like this.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: ShyGuy on April 06, 2010, 04:09:58 PM
you can adjust the effort level for swings. Are you standing up?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2010, 05:30:35 PM
sitting down. It works fine when I'm not in a combat situation and then when enemies show up everything becomes difficult and nothing registers. I just beat the Hammer swinging boss, but it wasn't thanks to sword thrust (not that I wasn't trying).
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BeautifulShy on April 06, 2010, 05:55:55 PM
Hmm since you are sitting down I think that the range of movement may be a problem. Whenever I played the first Red Steel or No More Heroes I had to stand up to do the sword fighting.
Are you sitting in a chair or something that may restrict your movement of your arms?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: EasyCure on April 06, 2010, 06:07:58 PM
This game gets better and better as you go along. The new moves really keep making the combat better and better. I just learned the matador and the shot. The shot is probably my favorite.
I also like all the hidden things they have around like the Sherrif Stars, it reminds me of looking for the items in Metroid.
speaking of which...
(http://i92.photobucket.com/albums/l28/ThreeImaginaryBoys/redsteelmetroid.jpg) Did anyone else catch tihs?
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2010, 06:32:05 PM
that's the first one I found ;D
As far as where I'm sitting. where I'm sitting is fine, the controls work fine when I'm not in combat and then all of a sudden it won't right and I have to swing harder than usual to execute something that worked fine just seconds ago.
I can work around it, and so far the game looks good. But hopefully this issue disappears later on.
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: EasyCure on April 06, 2010, 06:52:57 PM
Really? There were so many more obvious ones before that point. I think that was like my 5th. And the point of the pic was that the sign looks a bit like Samus' helmet. Didn't Retro help RS2's devs out with WM+ for this game? If so, I wonder if that was merely coincidental..
Title: Re: Red Steel 2 Megathread!
Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2010, 07:11:12 PM
I looked around pretty much everywhere and that was the 1st one I saw. I had about 34-36k coins by the time I got there and it's not even that far into the game.
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Post by: EasyCure on April 06, 2010, 07:16:08 PM
You suck :P
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2010, 07:17:44 PM
and that part is just past the point of no return for the 1st part of the game ;_;
What do the sheriff coins earn you anyway?
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Post by: EasyCure on April 06, 2010, 07:31:48 PM
I'll let shyguy answer that one..
I swear I have at LEAST 5 of those things and the last thing I remember doing is rescuing that Tamika chick. The first one was actually in plain sight, so i'm assuming it was literally the FIRST one you can get; since after that I kept an eye out for them.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 06, 2010, 07:44:03 PM
I've got about 5 of them now too. I just learned Guillotine and Storm and upgraded my Katana to level II. I only have about 8k gold left and I just had about 60k 10 minutes ago.
So far I'm digging this game and besides the control issues that plagued me during the first parts of the game, it's works pretty well.
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Post by: EasyCure on April 06, 2010, 07:46:01 PM
I've been too busy catching up on the forums to play. LOL lapsed gamer..
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 06, 2010, 08:23:46 PM
Sheriff stars earn you money, lust like the tokens and such. Almost everything is upgradeable, so you can eventually buy armor, health, sword power, gun abilities, better ammo, more ammo, etc...
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Post by: EasyCure on April 06, 2010, 08:31:21 PM
Sheriff stars earn you money, lust like the tokens and such. Almost everything is upgradeable, so you can eventually buy armor, health, sword power, gun abilities, better ammo, more ammo, etc...
So.. shooting **** like Vents and barrels will give you spare change, but the Sheriff Badges are like finding a wallet?
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Post by: Manthony Chopkins on April 06, 2010, 09:21:39 PM
Just beat the game on normal a few days ago. It was not too difficult, but slicing up some baddies with all of the moves was pretty sweet, especially combinig them to do some nifty finishing moves. I am definitely going to play through this again on a harder difficulty and I just havea few questions for anyone who has beaten the game on Ninja Mode. Is it pretty challenging? Or should I try to make it difficult for myself by doing things such as not upgrading any of my stuff?
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 08, 2010, 01:37:20 AM
Attention: I now rank this the best third party game on Wii Yes, better than RE4 Wii.
I just finished the game and found it really enjoyable all the way through. There are about 3 and half open world areas with straight up action levels in between. Tons of items to collect for money, and tons of things to upgrade. The enemies are varied and force you to use your arsenal of attacks.
Sadly, I don't think this game will do well. It requires to much effort for the fat. lazy soft-core gamers who call themselves the hardcore this generation. It took me 18 hours to finish the game and I played every minute standing up. Part of me wishes I played this on hard instead of medium.
Spoilers: There was one challenge I didn't do in the game. In the mines, there was a posion filled chamber with a safe in it. I couldn't crack the safe before my health expired.
The end boss threatens that there are other clans coming for your sword, but you tell him off and break the blade in half in his stomach. Setting up for a sequel?
I give it a 9 out of 10
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on April 08, 2010, 01:56:00 AM
The second opinions on IGN are kind of interesting.
I love the last guy, who says that the Motion+ "definitely improved the shooting accuracy."
What an idiot. I can't even believe they let him review games for a living.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 08, 2010, 02:05:19 AM
Attention: I now rank this the best third party game on Wii Yes, better than RE4 Wii.
I just finished the game and found it really enjoyable all the way through. There are about 3 and half open world areas with straight up action levels in between. Tons of items to collect for money, and tons of things to upgrade. The enemies are varied and force you to use your arsenal of attacks.
Sadly, I don't think this game will do well. It requires to much effort for the fat. lazy soft-core gamers who call themselves the hardcore this generation. It took me 18 hours to finish the game and I played every minute standing up. Part of me wishes I played this on hard instead of medium.
I don't know exactly how far I am into the game (just got the tommy gun) but I was thinking that I should have played it on Hard too until I got to Payne. I must've fought him about a dozen times before I finally beat him. I almost beat him about half the time, but when I go in for a slash, it would hurt him and he wold just choke slam me, call out some new guys and it was over. Had to adjust my head on strategy to parry strike strategy, but that's when I realized that playing it on Hard probably wouldn't have been the best idea for me (did I mention that I played it just fine for about 2 hours today while laying down ;)).
I'm really digging this game so far though, but damn do I have so much money. Just before my last purchase, I had almost $230k from breaking damn near everything that didn't require a bullet, and some of the things that did.
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 08, 2010, 02:11:35 AM
Don't forget to spend moola to upgrade your bullets and your animal specials.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 08, 2010, 02:45:36 AM
I haven't got that far yet.
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Post by: KDR_11k on April 08, 2010, 05:26:55 AM
I didn't find Payne THAT hard, Shinjiro is much more of a pain since the bastard has hardly any openings and when he has one he'll close it fairly fast with a bunch of fast attacks so overestimating one will lead to taking a few hits.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 08, 2010, 11:06:53 AM
I was being bullish and charging in trying to go for the quick kill. It almost worked the half the time but somehow my power thrust would do no damage and he would gran me by the throat and kill me.
It's not that he was hard, it's that I wasn't paying smart, I was just rushing in head first without thinking. One time I power thrusted him about 8 times in a row without him getting up and it almost killed him, so I kept thinking I cold just power attack my way through it and be done.... I was wrong.
The only other time I've died was when riding the truck during the quicktime events. There was one part where it just said push A, and I pushed it immediately on several attempt and it just wasn't registering, so I kept dieing, it almost got to the point of frustrating.
Everything else so far hasn't been hard at all, but I'm glad I didn't put it on hard since I'm still having issues with the damn thing not swinging some times. Just regular swings that work when not in combat are not working while in combat. He will just stand there while I'm swinging away or trying to do a finisher move when the enemy is down.
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Post by: SixthAngel on April 08, 2010, 01:10:56 PM
Payne slapped me around for a while too.
I think you can change the difficulty any time you want. The difficulty is part of the profile and you can change before you hit continue so it shouldn't matter if you started on medium because you can up it to hard.
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 08, 2010, 02:25:14 PM
Okaji is tough.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 08, 2010, 02:50:46 PM
Don't forget to spend moola to upgrade your bullets and your animal specials.
I just figured out what you were talking about. Just upgraded all 3 of my guns with what ever was available. 1st 2 guns with 3 upgrades x2 and the last gun with 3 upgrades x1. Now I'm broke.... just spent 210k in one shop visit.
edit: I was wrong. I didn't even notice ALL the ammo boxes that you can upgrade too. I hardly use the gun except for shooting things out of reach and "The Shot" finisher, but now I have a reason to go collect more money.
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 08, 2010, 03:21:22 PM
Yeah, I was halfway through the game before I noticed the ammo boxes with their upgrades.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 08, 2010, 03:34:57 PM
What I like is how the enemies can hurt each other. I just had to take on 11 guys and about 4 of them were killed by their own men.
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Post by: KDR_11k on April 08, 2010, 04:27:42 PM
Man, the final boss was a pushover with upgraded Tiger (the only Kusagari move I used regularly) and carabine (didn't even have more than 1-2 bullet upgrades for it and it still took about 20% or more off his health bar). Is there some kind of New Game + (you know, start over with all my upgrades)? I got a ton of money on the final level and there were no shops in it.
Generally guns have their use and you should have them ready in case **** hits the fan. When it gets hard enough that you can't just leisurely kill everything with the most profitable attacks you'll want to have your gun be useful at killing stuff.
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 10, 2010, 02:38:30 AM
I tried Borderlands tonight, I've heard people say it has a similar art style to RS2, but I don't see it. Borderlands looks more like Crackdown to me, and Red Steel 2 is like a prettier version of XIII.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 10, 2010, 03:36:21 AM
I'm at Shinjiro. Is that the end of the game?
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Post by: ShyGuy on April 10, 2010, 05:16:01 AM
First time for Shinjiro is about the halfway or two thirds point.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 10, 2010, 05:44:57 AM
ok, because I haven't unlocked all the moves nor got all the trophies and I still have 1 available gun slot open.
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Post by: KDR_11k on April 10, 2010, 06:59:44 AM
You'll know when it's the end of the game, the first Shinjiro fight doesn't feel anything like an end game.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 10, 2010, 01:15:31 PM
I fought him twice and got my butt kicked (got him to 50% health though), but I just wanted to make sure I wasn't at or near the end since I hadn't got everything yet. I would have been disappointed if the game was that short. I'm having fun playing it.
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Post by: Kytim89 on April 10, 2010, 01:42:01 PM
I have played the game and the controls are very precise. Although the wide swings of the wii mote can get your arm sore if your used to it. Overall the game was fantastic in both gameplay and animation. This game is truelly a gem and all wii owners should have this game in their collection. Based on this game, why can't there be a Borderlands for the wii?
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Post by: KDR_11k on April 10, 2010, 03:32:28 PM
Because Red Steel 2 would strip Borderlands of its pants and everything else and parade it around town naked. Seriously, BL is bad, RS2 trounces it.
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Post by: Stratos on April 10, 2010, 05:06:25 PM
Just started playing today and having fun with it. It's a little frustrating how picky the game is on swings because I'm lazy and refuse to stand to play it but I'm getting the hang of it.
Where do I save, though?n I can't find the save option for the life of me.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 10, 2010, 05:10:15 PM
It saves automatically after you do certain things or enter/leave =certain places at certain times. You'll see the little icon pop up in the upper left corner to let you know when that is happening.It makes me uneasy about quitting and turn the game off since I'm not always sure when the last time the game saved itself.
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Post by: Stratos on April 10, 2010, 05:12:29 PM
I was hopping for a manual way to save for that exact same reason. :P
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Post by: SixthAngel on April 11, 2010, 09:00:52 AM
This is really one of the best games I've played in a long time.
I'm really glad I someone here mentioned the bullet upgrades because I hadn't noticed them yet and it helped me catch it while its still early in the game. Unlike other people here I use guns all the time. They are great for taking out the machine gun guys, wounding and stunning enemies, and finishing off the dearmored guys. You can even use them on the big hammer guys. One of my favorite uses is on the armored guys. They jump at you and you unload a shotgun in their face, it knocks them back and stuns them letting you rip apart the armor.
I just beat Shinjiro on ninja and he really beat the hell out of me again and again. My winning tactic was to attack with guillotine and stab him but if I used tiger unload two shotgun blasts into him at point blank. The new shockwave attack you get looks really cool.
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Post by: Dirk Temporo on April 11, 2010, 02:23:05 PM
Because Red Steel 2 would strip Borderlands of its pants and everything else and parade it around town naked. Seriously, BL is bad, RS2 trounces it.
Because the games are so similar that one of them would definitely take a bite out of then market share of the other, right?
Four-player co-op>>>>>>>>>>single-player only. Borderlands would rape RS2 in sales if it had been on the Wii. I would also be interested to know just what's so "bad" about Borderlands, given that it was received extremely well by both critics and consumers.
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Post by: KDR_11k on April 11, 2010, 04:44:19 PM
It's completely boring. I heard some people liked it because they played it with 4 players but anything else and the game is a repetitive chore with a crappy mission structure.
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Post by: Stratos on April 11, 2010, 04:45:53 PM
So Red Steel 3 should have 4-player versus and co-op. If we even get the sales to warrant a sequel...
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Post by: Peachylala on April 12, 2010, 12:01:59 AM
Ubi was 90% troll this gen, so 90% of Nintendo fans (aka not us) might not give this game a chance just because of that.
We can never be pleased. Ever.
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Post by: EasyCure on April 12, 2010, 04:24:17 PM
ugh i tried replaying the game after my initial playtime with it, and it froze on the load screen.. twice!
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on April 19, 2010, 12:30:32 AM
I predicted 20K. 2 is like a 5, but flipped. So I win.
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Post by: Peachylala on April 19, 2010, 07:12:04 PM
I find that logic iffy.
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Post by: BlackNMild2k1 on April 19, 2010, 09:00:18 PM
It's sound logic really.
I went to a furniture store with my girl yesterday to look for a kitchen table. She saw one that she liked, a sort of large for the available space 3 piece sectional with 4 or 6 chairs. I was the one that had to break it to her that the price of the table was $750 dollars(waaaaay above the price range). To which she replied "Well I don't need the middle piece...." and I said "If only they could remove the middle piece and take the middle number with it."
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Post by: Morari on April 19, 2010, 09:07:26 PM
Ubi was 90% troll this gen, so 90% of Nintendo fans (aka not us) might not give this game a chance just because of that.
We can never be pleased. Ever.
Is that only Nintendo fans? Given the increasingly horrific DRM that Ubisoft is throwing into their PC games, I wouldn't be surprised in they loose the interest of yet another demographics.
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Post by: noname2200 on April 19, 2010, 09:59:07 PM
Ubi was 90% troll this gen, so 90% of Nintendo fans (aka not us) might not give this game a chance just because of that.
We can never be pleased. Ever.
Is that only Nintendo fans? Given the increasingly horrific DRM that Ubisoft is throwing into their PC games, I wouldn't be surprised in they loose the interest of yet another demographics.
Speaking personally, I'm already on that bandwagon. And I was dying to play Assassin's Creed II. :'(
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Post by: SilverGrey on May 03, 2010, 09:51:30 PM
Pardon me, didn't read the whole thread, so if this has been discussed already at length, I do apologize. Is it a common glitch in this game to fall out of the game world? I had that happen to me this weekend and stared at the screen for a while to see if it would ever resolve itself. It never did so I had to re-start the whole thing. I never did manage to duplicate it, but falling into an endless void was certainly unexpected.
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Post by: ShyGuy on May 04, 2010, 01:32:55 AM
I saw something about that glitch on GoNintendo a month back but never encountered it myself.
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Post by: SixthAngel on May 04, 2010, 02:55:48 PM
I was glitch free my entire playthrough.
The sidewinder with explosive rounds is the ****.
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Post by: ShyGuy on May 04, 2010, 02:59:34 PM
Yeah, that is the best weapon after upgrades. I liked the armor busting shotgun too.
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Post by: broodwars on May 07, 2010, 01:45:01 AM
Well, coming off the utter disappointment that was Fragile and the surprising amount of fun that was Wii Sports Resort, I decided to take the plunge and give Red Steel 2 a fair shot. I'm a couple chapters in (I just reached the "Lower City"), and I'm actually having a good deal of fun. The swordplay tires my arm out after a few hours and the enemy AI is fairly poor, but the combat's surprisingly fun (especially the finishers, and I have a soft spot now for performing the Eagle to throw a guy up in the air, and then dash up and slam him back into the ground or shoot him full of bullets on the way down). I really wish my character could jump on his own without a prompt, though, as it just feels like something you should be able to do. More story outside of the mission descriptions and the occasional cinematic would be nice as well, though those cinematics are gorgeous (surprisingly decent voice acting as well).
I had to go through a fair amount of trouble to get the game, though. My original plan was to trade in Fragile and another game at GS, and then get the game used. So I found a GS that had it Used that was on my way home from work, and I stopped by after work. Turns out that that copy was being "held" for a week because the person who traded it in did so for cash. Would have been really nice to know that ahead of time, or for them to simply oh...I don't know...not have it listed as in their inventory on the website. Then they directed me to another GS that had it used that was a little out of my way, but still on one of several routes home. Turns out their copy has no original case or cover, just the generic GS one (by the way, according to that cover Red Steel 2 is a GameCube game). I told them there was no way I was buying that, and just ended up buying it new. Yeah, it's $17 more than I wanted to spend on a game I was really hesitant to get, but at least the overwhelming amount of that didn't go to GS.
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Post by: ShyGuy on May 07, 2010, 03:31:39 AM
You get a bit more variety in enemies as the game goes on.
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Post by: broodwars on May 10, 2010, 12:34:45 AM
*beats the game*
What the...THAT'S IT?! I haven't seen an ending that anticlimatic and lazy in years: just a "The End" screen after defeating the Final Boss (which was a simple matter of using The Tiger to stun him followed by a volley of explosive rifle rounds in his chest). Bleh...
Other than...THAT, I rather enjoyed the game. But what a blatant setup for a sequel...
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Post by: Peachylala on May 10, 2010, 12:36:52 AM
Clearly Ubi put their best story telling team to work on this game.
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Post by: KDR_11k on May 10, 2010, 01:12:24 PM
I think the issue is mostly that the Tiger is just effing overpowered. Directional blocking? Don't bother, use the Tiger. Waiting for an opening? Don't bother, use the Tiger. There's only one attack in the game that you can't deflect with the Tiger (The Dragon) but there's only one enemy who can use it and he doesn't use it nearly enough to be dangerous with it.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 10, 2010, 01:17:19 PM
Have to master all the moves before unlocking the Flying Carradine.
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Post by: broodwars on May 10, 2010, 01:35:08 PM
I think the issue is mostly that the Tiger is just effing overpowered. Directional blocking? Don't bother, use the Tiger. Waiting for an opening? Don't bother, use the Tiger. There's only one attack in the game that you can't deflect with the Tiger (The Dragon) but there's only one enemy who can use it and he doesn't use it nearly enough to be dangerous with it.
To be honest, I think the moves that are overpowered are The Reaper, followed by the The Crush. Yes, the enemies can guard against them, but only the Ninjas guard against them consistently and even that can be worn down through repeated attempts. And when you do hit with one of them, you pretty much have an instant opportunity for a finisher, with a pretty high bonus for using them as finishers. The only enemies these don't work against are bosses and the mini-gunners (I hate those guys)/hammer guys.
The Tiger is overpowered, but I really only ever used it against especially hard enemies (the advanced Ninjas) and bosses.
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Post by: KDR_11k on May 10, 2010, 02:01:02 PM
I used the Tiger instead of regular blocks but I think what's also pretty nasty is The Storm, turn your back to an enemy, wait for the red icon, bam! Instant kill.
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Post by: broodwars on May 10, 2010, 03:32:38 PM
I used the Tiger instead of regular blocks but I think what's also pretty nasty is The Storm, turn your back to an enemy, wait for the red icon, bam! Instant kill.
I've only found that working against the weakest enemies. Everyone else blocked when I tried that.
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Post by: KDR_11k on May 10, 2010, 04:01:28 PM
Really? The red icon is a finisher, can instakill even the best ninjas when I use it.
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Post by: DAaaMan64 on May 12, 2010, 09:00:58 PM
Wow I just finished this game. It is fan-fucking-tastic. No More Heroes has NOTHING on this sword play. By the end of the game your such a badass, your like dancing through sword fights. ITS GREAT. I was also amazed to find myself actually using all the moves too. @_@. (Well okay, all but like 2)
That and the cinema scenes were just excellent. Congrats to the Red Steel 2 team on making such an excellent game.
Also, I liked to mention just nicely streamlined the game play is. Its excellent. I started using the little press A dash move every where because if you are in the middle of a dash and you get to something it wants to you to press A on it automatically starts that action. Its excellent. The gun switching on the fly is also amazing.
Great game.
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Post by: Halbred on May 12, 2010, 09:08:27 PM
I'll definately be picking it up when the price drops, which I'm surprised hasn't happened already.
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Post by: Stratos on May 13, 2010, 05:11:09 AM
I'll definately be picking it up when the price drops, which I'm surprised hasn't happened already.
Maybe that's a sign that the game is having decent sales still? The prices seem to drop once the games sales slow.
Or maybe they got the hint from Nintendo to leave the price high longer and people will continue to buy the game at that price?
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Post by: KDR_11k on May 13, 2010, 08:19:28 AM
Games don't drop in price THAT fast here...
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Post by: Manthony Chopkins on May 13, 2010, 11:14:53 PM
The game hasn't even been out for two months. So I don't think there will be a permanent price drop yet.
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Post by: Ymeegod on May 20, 2010, 11:50:11 PM
Just started/finished the game myself and have to say it isn't anything great. Minus the combat the rest of the game is pretty damn lame. Story/plot? Crap, they did have a nice western theme going but didn't do much with it. The NPC, both the acting and the script was laughable at best and where the hell is everyone else? Pacing--again it was off. It's pretty damn linear and the few side quests they had didn't add much, rip down a few posters, find some gold, beat XXX of thugs, ect.
Also I hate lame endings, you don't even find out what happens to the chick, it just ends. I think I would take NMH2 over this, at least it had it's humor.
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Post by: ShyGuy on May 21, 2010, 01:32:53 AM
At least it had a better story than Devil May Cry.
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Post by: NinGurl69 *huggles on May 21, 2010, 01:48:07 AM
Good thing the game is all combat.
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Post by: NWR_insanolord on May 21, 2010, 02:33:09 AM
Minus the combat the rest of the game is pretty damn lame.
So minus everything in the game, the game would be pretty lame?
Interesting.
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Post by: Ymeegod on May 21, 2010, 09:23:35 PM
Pretty much yeah, it was a disappointment to me, love the early art style and read the early interviews where the developers talked about the much improve plot but saddly the cake is lie. I really don' t need a novel but at least tell a story from begining to end. This one told 1/2 a story and it didn't even tell that well. It seems like no game can get it right on the WII, either you got story (Dead Space:E, Silent Hill) or you got gameplay, why can't I get both?
It's better than the orginal, I just wished it was what the developer described it as.
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Post by: ShyGuy on May 22, 2010, 04:19:16 PM
So what's a recent game that had the perfect ratio of story and gameplay for you?
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Post by: Peachylala on May 23, 2010, 01:56:08 AM
WHY?
WHY DID HE JUST USE DEAD SPACE ON-RAILS AS AN EXAMPLE?
UGH. Caps just aren't good enough to express a wall-banging moment.
Minus the combat the rest of the game is pretty damn lame.
It's a game we play for the combat.
Red Steel 2 is like... a first person Bayonetta.
Minus the one-liners and ass shots. And the main character is a man.
Pro's answer wins this thread.
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Post by: Ymeegod on May 24, 2010, 12:57:10 PM
"Minus the one-liners and ass shots" But I like those parts :).
I actually liked Bayonetta, ranks up there with other action games like NG or DMC series.
"perfect ratio of story and gameplay for you" Well just started GoW3 and so far I'm in love. Also Alan Wake (only a few hours in) sits well with me. Some games just have to much "bleh" for story for my taste, I'm looking at you MGS4 or even Xenosaga III (after the first game the writters left and the story basically died with that).
Hopefully, I'll get RDR sometime this month--I have alot of titles on my plate I need to finish but man is that game tempting.
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Post by: ShyGuy on May 25, 2010, 04:25:10 PM
God of War, really? really?
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Post by: broodwars on May 25, 2010, 04:46:43 PM
To throw in much better modern games that really blend story (and/or atmosphere) well with gameplay, I'd submit Bioshock; Batman: Arkham Asylum; Uncharted 2: Among Thieves; Valkyria Chronicles; Dead Space; and Bioshock 2. Some of those did it better than others, but looking back over the experiences as a whole they all worked really well.
Sorry, I tried to think of suitable Wii games to mention in that list, but I can't think of any that have blended the two elements particularly well.
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Post by: Peachylala on May 25, 2010, 04:47:18 PM
