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Nintendo E3 Press Conference
« on: July 15, 2008, 04:39:20 PM »
Find out what went down at Nintendo's E3 press conference with our summary.
 http://www.nintendoworldreport.com/newsArt.cfm?artid=16375

 Nintendo once again held its E3 press conference at the Kodak Theater in Hollywood, the site of its 2006 press event. Nintendo highlighted its continued success with Nintendo DS and Wii, and showcased a handful of first and third party games. The overall emphasis was on casual gamers, with very little for traditional video game enthusiasts.    


Cammie Dunaway, Nintendo executive vice president of sales & marketing, kicked the show off talking about how much her kids love the fact that she works for Nintendo. This transitioned into a discussion of other ways she has tried to be cool, such as attempting to go snowboarding, breaking her wrist in the process.  This led to a demonstration of Ubisoft's Shaun White Snowboarding, with Shaun White himself demoing the special Wii Balance Board controls. It was unclear from the on-stage demo how tricks were executed, but you can look forward to NWR's impressions after we've had a chance to try it out.    


   


Satoru Iwata took the stage to discuss the status of Nintendo's product line, highlighting its continued growth and success. Slides highlighted that according to Nintendo data, Wii hardware is selling faster than that of the PlayStation 2, and Wii software shows a similar trend. He also discussed the continued success of the Nintendo DS and its “evergreen” titles, such as New Super Mario Bros. and the Brain Age games, and that DS units is selling better than ever—especially to females. Iwata insists that Wii and DS owners must continue to be engaged, or else they will lose interest.  He then promised that the Zelda and Mario teams are working on new Wii titles, though he made no direct mention if those teams were actually making new Zelda and Mario games.

   


Nintendo went on to feature Animal Crossing: City Folk for Wii with a video showing gameplay footage and series director Katsuya Eguchi explaining the features of the new title. Most notably, Animal Crossing will support a new microphone peripheral called the WiiSpeak, a community microphone that will pick up the voices of anyone sitting around the TV.  Players can visit each others' towns (after trading Friend Codes) and hang out, trade items, engage in activities, and more. The footage showed a fishing contest with friends talking online. In addition, players can send messages from the game to the Wii Message Board, to an e-mail addresses, or even directly to mobile phones. This entry in the series also introduces a city, where players can participate in auctions, interact with animals, and perform other Animal Crossing mainstay activities.    


   


NOA President Reggie Fils-Aime took over to further discuss business trends, boasting about successful marketing campaigns and joking about how Wii and DS units are competing for weekly sales figures. Reggie showed some quick reels of featured third party titles Star Wars: The Clone Wars, Rayman Raving Rabbids: TV Party, and Call of Duty: World at War, titles that would be "coming soon" to the Wii.

   


Next, Nintendo touched on the success of Guitar Hero: World Tour, then announced a second DS Guitar Hero entry, Guitar Hero: On Tour Decades. Karthik Bala from Vicarious Visions announced some details via recorded footage. Most interestingly, players can share songs between the two Guitar Hero entries during multiplayer.  That is, if someone with On Tour plays with someone who owns On Tour Decades, the tracks from both games will be available. This was followed by footage of Spore for the DS, titled Spore Creatures. The DS entry is distinct from the version for other platforms, focusing on creature generation and interaction.    


The only Nintendo-published DS title announced was Pokemon Ranger: Shadow of Almin, with very few details given. However, Nintendo revealed that Grand Theft Auto will come to DS with a unique entry called Grand Theft Auto: Chinatown Wars. The new GTA game for the DS would be created specifically for the platform with a new engine and special features.  Nintendo also hinted at future travel companion DS functions they are experimenting with, such as checking for flight status at the airport and their current Safeco Field baseball stats service in Seattle. Cooking Navi, retitled to Cooking Guide: Can't Decide What to Eat?, is also scheduled for a North American release.    


   


Near the end of the presentation, Nintendo touched on its newly announced Wii Remote peripheral, the Wii MotionPlus.  The flagship title that will use this device is Wii Sports Resort, the sequel to Wii Sports.  Nintendo said it would be available in "spring 2009." Without a 2008 release date, Wii Sports Resort seems early in development, but Nintendo demonstrated a few summer vacation activities that will be included, such as a frisbee toss with dog game reminiscent of Nintendogs, a jet-ski game, and sword dueling. The MotionPlus allows the system to detect subtle wrist twists and movements, and Nintendo referred to the Wii Remote + MotionPlus as “the new remote” on multiple occasions. The Wii Sports sequel will come with one MotionPlus, with additional units sold separately.

   


Finally, Shigeru Miyamoto showcased Wii Music. Designed so that anyone can play—and Nintendo means anyone—the game will feature gesture controls with the Wii Remote and Nunchuk, as well as the Wii Fit board as part of a drum kit in a separate game mode. The game is relatively free-form and appears to be similar to like EA's Boogie in that most of the activities are automatically done for your, but that's hard to determine without getting any hands-on play time.  The game will include a variety of songs, including Nintendo songs (the Mario theme was demonstrated live). The game offers other modes of play, such as the conducting, and a drum trainer.    


Overall, Nintendo announced a few key peripherals and established that it has no intent of giving up the casual market. However, with few new Nintendo DS or Wii game announcements from Nintendo itself,  and almost no traditional games presence,  the conference left video game enthusiasts fairly disappointed. Nintendo World Report will have more thoughts on the press conference and the games demonstrated shortly, so keep an eye out for game impressions, blogs, and podcast entries!

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Re: Nintendo E3 Press Conference
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2008, 03:50:57 PM »
Animal Crossing is going to bring voice chat to Wii games? I didn't see that one coming.

I was kind of assuming that a Wii Sports sequel would come out, thus enabling the Wii Motion Plus to be as widespread as possible as a pack-in. Will it be a true Wii Sports 2 or another glorified Wii Play though?
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« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2008, 03:51:34 PM »
so far all 3 were really disappointing.  but i have to say that the crap that smelled the least came from Microsoft.

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« Reply #3 on: July 15, 2008, 04:12:37 PM »
so far all 3 were really disappointing.  but i have to say that the crap that smelled the least came from Microsoft.

I don't know, they were all equally terrible. The FF13 announcement may give them the edge though.
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« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2008, 04:22:17 PM »
so far all 3 were really disappointing.  but i have to say that the crap that smelled the least came from Microsoft.

I don't know, they were all equally terrible. The FF13 announcement may give them the edge though.

that was kind of my point.  the only surprises Nintendo and sony had was that there conferences sucked.  hell sony talked about the ps2 for a good chunk of time.

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« Reply #5 on: July 15, 2008, 04:26:25 PM »
WTF?! Are you serious?

Wii Music made me laugh and giggle like a little school girl. And Wii Resort is yet again Nintendo proving that cool **** is on the way.

Are you sad that there weren't any hardcore games from them (even though they hinted to the fact that Nintendo's Mario and Zelda teams are making gorgeous games as we speak)?

Let the third parties make the hardcore games for now. Next year, we'll be swimming in "hardcore" franchises.
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« Reply #6 on: July 15, 2008, 04:32:20 PM »
I really enjoyed the Wii Music demo, because it's the kind of fun social game I can pull a lot of friends in for. Since it doesn't have any guide, we can just mess around with the music. Although some people are saying that the game plays itself, that's not true at all. You can tell from the video how different positions of the controls and different timings of button presses clearly affect how the music is played.

Other than Wii Music, and the MotionPlus possibilities... I'm not too excited about anything shown in any of the conferences this year. That Resistance 2 demo for PS3 was good graphically, but laughable gameplay-wise. I'm not interested in playing any game in which I can survive getting thrown through multiple skyscrapers, but I can't survive gunshots.
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« Reply #7 on: July 15, 2008, 04:32:29 PM »
WTF?! Are you serious?

Wii Music made me laugh and giggle like a little school girl. And Wii Resort is yet again Nintendo proving that cool **** is on the way.

Are you sad that there weren't any hardcore games from them (even though they hinted to the fact that Nintendo's Mario and Zelda teams are making gorgeous games as we speak)?

Let the third parties make the hardcore games for now. Next year, we'll be swimming in "hardcore" franchises.

im really hoping that this is sarcasm.  i just wanted more than animal crossing.

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« Reply #8 on: July 15, 2008, 04:34:25 PM »
Oh, yeah, I also liked the news that Wii Music videos can be recorded. I assume they can be shared somehow, as well. If not directly through Wii Music, then through video capture on a computer. That would really help sales if direct-to-video-site capabilities were included. People would make tons of videos.
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« Reply #9 on: July 15, 2008, 04:36:06 PM »
What is with the Wii Music hate? We still know very little of it and it looks like a fun and, yes, unique game. A perfect successor to Wii Fit and Wii Sports.
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2008, 04:37:13 PM »
WTF?! Are you serious?

Wii Music made me laugh and giggle like a little school girl. And Wii Resort is yet again Nintendo proving that cool **** is on the way.

Are you sad that there weren't any hardcore games from them (even though they hinted to the fact that Nintendo's Mario and Zelda teams are making gorgeous games as we speak)?

Let the third parties make the hardcore games for now. Next year, we'll be swimming in "hardcore" franchises.

im really hoping that this is sarcasm.  i just wanted more than animal crossing.
WTF?! Are you serious?

Wii Music made me laugh and giggle like a little school girl. And Wii Resort is yet again Nintendo proving that cool **** is on the way.

Are you sad that there weren't any hardcore games from them (even though they hinted to the fact that Nintendo's Mario and Zelda teams are making gorgeous games as we speak)?

Let the third parties make the hardcore games for now. Next year, we'll be swimming in "hardcore" franchises.

im really hoping that this is sarcasm.  i just wanted more than animal crossing.

Just cuz Nintendo doesn't show a "mature" game, you act like they don't exist.


MadWorld?

RedSteel?

CoD?

WarioLand?

Conduit?

Starwars TFU?

GTA?

What more do you want?!

Do you even have time to play half of those games?
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2008, 04:38:48 PM »
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Let the third parties make the hardcore games for now.

What third parties make hardcore games for the Wii?

I admire how NWR was able to state the conference was a disappointment in a professional manner.

Frankly I don't see why Nintendo uses E3 to be so casual focused.  Soccer moms don't pay attention to E3.  Only hardcore gamers do.  Might as well play to the audience.

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What is with the Wii Music hate?

I think a lot of us were interested in it and now we're finding out it's for people who think easy in Guitar Hero is too hard.  It doesn't even sound like a game.  It sounds like it's practically a video.

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« Reply #12 on: July 15, 2008, 04:41:49 PM »
WTF?! Are you serious?

Wii Music made me laugh and giggle like a little school girl. And Wii Resort is yet again Nintendo proving that cool **** is on the way.

Are you sad that there weren't any hardcore games from them (even though they hinted to the fact that Nintendo's Mario and Zelda teams are making gorgeous games as we speak)?

Let the third parties make the hardcore games for now. Next year, we'll be swimming in "hardcore" franchises.

I would have hope for hardcore franchises if they showed a glimmer of hope of them.
I don't care if its just trailers I want to see they are not totally abandoning the Hardcore.

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« Reply #13 on: July 15, 2008, 04:42:53 PM »
Ian, your an idiot.

You do realize that Miyamoto trumped Guitar Hero A HUNDRED FOLD.

Wii Music is going to be the game that people who ACTUALLY play an instrument will love.
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« Reply #14 on: July 15, 2008, 04:43:44 PM »
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Let the third parties make the hardcore games for now.

What third parties make hardcore games for the Wii?

I admire how NWR was able to state the conference was a disappointment in a professional manner.

Frankly I don't see why Nintendo uses E3 to be so casual focused.  Soccer moms don't pay attention to E3.  Only hardcore gamers do.  Might as well play to the audience.


Yeah kind of like how Wii Fit was ignored after being revealed at E3? Do you even know what you are talking about half the time Ian? The mainstream media has picked up E3 ever since Wii was revealed.
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« Reply #15 on: July 15, 2008, 04:47:05 PM »
WTF?! Are you serious?

Wii Music made me laugh and giggle like a little school girl. And Wii Resort is yet again Nintendo proving that cool **** is on the way.

Are you sad that there weren't any hardcore games from them (even though they hinted to the fact that Nintendo's Mario and Zelda teams are making gorgeous games as we speak)?

Let the third parties make the hardcore games for now. Next year, we'll be swimming in "hardcore" franchises.

I would have hope for hardcore franchises if they showed a glimmer of hope of them.
I don't care if its just trailers I want to see they are not totally abandoning the Hardcore.

As Reggie said early, Nintendo's CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED STUDIOS for the "hardcore" are well on there way to making new games.

And just cuz they don't have anything to show doesn't mean they are "abandoning the hardcore." That's the dumbest **** ever.

It's like forgetting to give your wife a 29th year anniversary present, then being accused that you don't love her AFTER 29 years of fucking marriage.
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« Reply #16 on: July 15, 2008, 04:51:55 PM »
Guys while the show was lame for us remember E3 has been a launching point for the casual side of Wii. E3 for the last couple of years has been gobbled up by the mainstream media when it comes to Wii so of course they are going continue mining that. Wii Fit was a huge hit for the media after E3 and of course Wii itself was a huge hit the first E3 with the media. So why change?
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« Reply #17 on: July 15, 2008, 04:52:42 PM »
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Wii Music is going to be the game that people who ACTUALLY play an instrument will love.

I can play an actual instrument and I sure as hell have no interest in something that requires no timing, no rhythm and no skill.  This isn't for real musicians, it's for people so inept at music that they can't even play existing music games.

Maybe I'm still missing a huge part of it but it sounds like you just do stuff and music plays with no rhyme or reason to it.  Why would a real musician like that?  Why would anyone but the youngest child like that?

I'm really interested in hands on reports from the floor because the press conference made it sound like there is nothing to it at all.  Maybe Nintendo just REALLY sucked at demonstrating it.

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« Reply #18 on: July 15, 2008, 04:57:21 PM »
Ian, your an idiot.

You do realize that Miyamoto trumped Guitar Hero A HUNDRED FOLD.

Wii Music is going to be the game that people who ACTUALLY play an instrument will love.

i play several instruments... so does the drummer in my band.  we love guitar hero/rock band.  wii music does nothing for me.  maybe after i see some footage and get a sence of what the game is really about.  i can only go off of the ign notes really cause im at work now. 

this conference said nothing of/failed to deliver
1 storage for the wii
2 Nintendo's franchises other than animal crossing and pokemon
3 wii ware (im pretty sure they said nothing of itl... or very little)
4 didn't wow us with any surprises
5  didnt give us a glimpse of the future.  they could have at least let us know about something sweet even if it wouldnt be coming out untill next year.


at least Microsoft had ff 13.

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« Reply #19 on: July 15, 2008, 04:59:01 PM »
I don't know how you guys can fathom calling yourselves gamers and not drool over WiiSports 2 (when WiiSports is still played by some of you) and at the obvious genius of WiiMusic.

Did you see what Miyamoto did right there? I've been wrapping my brains around how WiiMusic would work; most importantly, how the Wiimote would become so many different instruments. Then Miyamoto was the deaf man that watched a concert. Body language plays a huge part in speech, and it's even more true in music.

Fucking GENIUS!

Not only that, but I would concede that WiiMotionPlus was a DEFINITE hardcore focused announcement, even if they demoed WiiSports 2.

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Wii Music is going to be the game that people who ACTUALLY play an instrument will love.

I can play an actual instrument and I sure as hell have no interest in something that requires no timing, no rhythm and no skill.  This isn't for real musicians, it's for people so inept at music that they can't even play existing music games.

Maybe I'm still missing a huge part of it but it sounds like you just do stuff and music plays with no rhyme or reason to it.  Why would a real musician like that?  Why would anyone but the youngest child like that?

I'm really interested in hands on reports from the floor because the press conference made it sound like there is nothing to it at all.  Maybe Nintendo just REALLY sucked at demonstrating it.

Wow, Ian. I hope you don't do this in real life. You know........judge something before you even know what it is. FOR SHAME.

The way it works is that you press buttons on the wiimote for the timing of the rhythm (I'm not sure if you have multiple octaves or what not). Then to change key, you simple imitate what a real musician would do. For instance, leaning back while playing the saxophone will make it play louder and at a higher pitch.

That's pretty god damn cool considering it can be used for 50 plus instruments.

Ian, your an idiot.

You do realize that Miyamoto trumped Guitar Hero A HUNDRED FOLD.

Wii Music is going to be the game that people who ACTUALLY play an instrument will love.

i play several instruments... so does the drummer in my band.  we love guitar hero/rock band.  wii music does nothing for me.  maybe after i see some footage and get a sence of what the game is really about.  i can only go off of the ign notes really cause im at work now. 

this conference said nothing of/failed to deliver
1 storage for the wii
2 Nintendo's franchises other than animal crossing and pokemon
3 wii ware (im pretty sure they said nothing of itl... or very little)
4 didn't wow us with any surprises
5  didnt give us a glimpse of the future.  they could have at least let us know about something sweet even if it wouldnt be coming out untill next year.


at least Microsoft had ff 13.

You play an instrument and like Guitar Hero? Your the very first and I surround myself with musicians, being a musician myself.

I admit, Guitar Hero as a Rhythm based game is pretty money just like Ouedinan. But as a Music simulator..........please.......

At least with WiiMusic you can JAM, which is quintessential to any musician.
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« Reply #20 on: July 15, 2008, 05:00:11 PM »
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Wii Music is going to be the game that people who ACTUALLY play an instrument will love.

I can play an actual instrument and I sure as hell have no interest in something that requires no timing, no rhythm and no skill.  This isn't for real musicians, it's for people so inept at music that they can't even play existing music games.

Have you seen the video?  With no timing, no rhythm, and no skill, you're going to be playing Wii Noise, not Wii Music.  It's simply unstructured so you can play whatever you want.

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« Reply #21 on: July 15, 2008, 05:01:44 PM »
I was disappointed by the conference because they didn't show anything unexpected. We knew AC and WiiMusic were coming, and WiiSports 2 was a thought in everyone's mind as well since they did the PR of the MotionPlus yesterday.

The only announcement that really piqued my interest was the Voice Chat in AC, which we are all hoping for. That isn't enough to make the show for me.
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« Reply #22 on: July 15, 2008, 05:01:52 PM »
I don't know how you guys can fathom calling yourselves gamers and not drool over WiiSports 2 (when WiiSports is still played by some of you) and at the obvious genius of WiiMusic.

Did you see what Miyamoto did right there? I've been wrapping my brains around how WiiMusic would work; most importantly, how the Wiimote would become so many different instruments. Then Miyamoto was the deaf man that watched a concert. Body language plays a huge part in speech, and it's even more true in music.

****ing GENIUS!

Not only that, but I would concede that WiiMotionPlus was a DEFINITE hardcore focused announcement, even if they demoed WiiSports 2.



i was on the fence about your sarcasm before... but now i can see how thick your laying it on.  good show old man you had me believing that you loved this e3... sorry i didnt pick up on it sooner

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« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2008, 05:04:27 PM »
The motion plus is looking like a MS style reaction move rather than critical to upcoming games. kinda like the 360 HD-DVD player.

Call of Duty looks HAWT

No RedSteel 2 :(

More Animal Crossing info plz

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« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2008, 05:08:29 PM »
The motion plus is looking like a MS style reaction move rather than critical to upcoming games. kinda like the 360 HD-DVD player.

1:1 swordfighting makes this critical. All games in development should be delayed to incorporate this.
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