Topic: sony delaying the ps3?

[vudu]

i get the distinct feeling that sony is holding off on the ps3 for longer than they should be/could be.

right now, ps2 is a) the weakest of the next gen consoles in terms of hardware, b) the strongest of the next gen consoles in terms of sales.  obviously, the sales are strong with this console, in part, because of the lead time the ps2 had over the gc and the xbox.

if ps3 were to debut next x-mas ps2 support would come to a stand-still, thus forcing ps2 owners to upgrade to the new ps3 or buy a new system.  from what i've read consoles have come to a plateau in terms of how powerful they can get at this point in time.  (of course there's always some room for improvement, but not nearly as much as the leap from the snes to the n64, for example)

at any rate, does any one else think that sony might be delaying the release of the ps2 because they don't want to force their consumers to upgrade to a newer system, thus giving up their lead time?  i know that one could argue that if sony could get the ps3 out there before the gc2 or the xbox2, they would again have a substantial lead over their competitors, but as i already said, consoles have come as far as they can (for now).  the ps3 would most likely be up to par with the gc or the xbox, not light-years beyond them.

all i can say is, if i were a ps2 owner, upgrading to a newer system, i would want to go with a system that had been out for a few years and already had a substantial number of games rather than a new system with far fewer (and generally speaking, launch games tend to be rather weak) games.  (all this is assuming that the ps3 isn't substantially better than the gc or xbox in terms of hardware/price)

anyone else have any ideas?

[Uglydot]

Don't listen to the people that tell you consoles have come to a platuea as far as power goes.  It is completly false.  The PS3 will hopefully not come out for at least another 2 years, no one wants to upgrade already, and Sony has to know that.  The PSX was weaker than the n64, and it is still supported.  So I really wouldn't worry about that.

["Sky"]

I hope NO console gets released until 2006 EARLIEST. I'm hoping for a 2008 release myself.

[rodtod]

Come to think of it, it would be very bad for many developers out there if Sony and Microsoft released their next systems one or two years from now. The development costs for a decent Xbox or PS2 game are already high. If the new systems are released before developers have had enough time to learn how to make games in a cost-effective manner (without sacrificing quality), then expect the launch titles to be all but dissapointing. Developers are already acting miserly in this generation. Imagine how bad it'd be if they suddenly had to deal with new technology and increasingly overwhelming competition (Square-Enix and EA anyone?). No, I think the Xbox 2 and PS3 should not be released until it seems the industry is ready and eager to tackle the next generation.

[BlkPaladin]

Not unless they make it backwards compatible. That is one of the reasons that PSX is still being supported.  Because those who buy the PS3 will be able to buy the PS2 games and play them. So there sould really be no problem.

[couchmonkey]

As I understand it, most of the money game companies make is from software and accessories, in fact they may lose money on hardware, so extending the life of an old system for as long as possible makes sense.  I wouldn't say Sony is "delaying" the PS3, the company is just waiting for a logical amount of time to pass before asking consumers to upgrade.   In theory Sony probably could release the PS3 within a year or less, but it wouldn't make sense from a business perspective.

[rodtod]

couchmonkey, Sony does not think the same way as Nintendo. the PlayStation franchise is not its only source of revenue, and therefore it does not rely on its videogames line as Nintendo does. sure, it would make sense for them to want to milk the PS2 for all its worth (financially speaking), but Sony is more about being one-step-ahead of the competition, rather than trying to make each generation of products very rewarding.

[BiLdItUp1]

Yeah, but consider that Sony's Playstation department is it's most profitable, while electronic sales are stagnant and music is going down the crapper because of Mp3. If the PlayStation division took a hit because of a new system being released, the shareholders would not be happy,   nor would PS2 customers or 3rd party developers. If the PS3 (or whatever it's gonna be called) gets released within the next 2 years, I'd be shocked. The earliest they could release it is Q4 2005/Q1 2006. And if the PS2 is still viable by then(which it most certainly will be, unless hell freezes over) they could push it back even further, unless the competition races with them.

[Infernal Monkey]

I wonder when the PS3's going to launch.

[EasyCure]

I wonder when the PS3's BIG GAMES are going to launch.

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[Chozo Ghost]

The thing they have out right now is just a prototype of the real PS3. They're just testing the waters to see how the real PS3 would be received in the market, and sadly it seems they'll have to make a few tweaks before they can have something truly worthy of the PS3 moniker.

[Kairon]

The thing they have out right now is just a prototype of the real PS3. They're just testing the waters to see how the real PS3 would be received in the market, and sadly it seems they'll have to make a few tweaks before they can have something truly worthy of the PS3 moniker.

Yeah. The truth is that this is actually PS3 Prologue that everyone is playing.

[vudu]

What the Hell?  I have no memory of this thread.

[IceCold]

It's from 2003. Before you started capitalising your words.

[vudu]

Wow, that is old-school.  This is my fifth post ever on PGC.

[Mikintosh]

I hear it's launching with Final Fantasy XIII.

Personally, as long as it's around the same price of the PS2, that's fine. I hear the next Xbox is going to be $400; who's going to pay that much for a damn video game console?

[Chozo Ghost]

It's from 2003. Before you started capitalising your words.

Yep. This thread is actually older than the war in Iraq.